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angle kitsune
February 11th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Okay this is a option now for any and all students in the united states as well as some other countries I am sure. However most programs offer this at a price; A high price more often then not treating it as a private school. private schools for k-6 cost about $3,267 nation wide (department of education- 2000). According the the
Council for American Private Education for highschoolers private school costs between $4,000 and $12,000. Also most private schools are religiously-affiliated making choices slim for kids with out of the majority faiths. Now for the University of Miami Online Highschool the tuition for 8-12 is about $10,000 a year. More often it is about $1,000 a year, not quite as high as private highschools but for alot of people that is still alot of money. But some programs are running off of donations from people who just don't want to see so many students drop out. http://www.umohs.com/admissions_tuition.html

Okay my thing is that from what I see, being a public high school student the reason many students drop out is from them working and the times not matching up. Maybe not students that make the choice to work but the ones that have to, be it supporting a child or their parents in a troubled time in their life. Or sometimes the parents want them to work and will not allow them not to hold down a job. Sometimes for the ones that don't have that exact problem they are gifted in a trade and get a job making decent money doing that before they finish highschool and just stop, not seeing it as important. Some students just can't deal with the stress, bullies, teachers who don't care, teachers who don't teach, teachers who can't keep their students in order to provide a learning enviroment and their grades are showing that it IS affecting them. This causes some students to drop out, about 1/2 the students in my school that drop out its becouse they are not getting what they need from the school. So if there is a internet option why are so few taking it? many parents assume it always costs money, there is a free program in Alaska, Navada, washington,oklahoma, minnasota all provided by a program called Advanced Academics. Other parents are making their student suffer through a school that is doing nothing for them when they could do better online where they can be in a quite room and have one on one help, but to them no matter what, it is still droping out. My mother is like that however I am still falowing this path other wise I would not end up finishing highschool at all becouse I am learning nothing in some of the important classes. there are more students out there like me, more then you think. Students who need a at your own pace program where if they do not finish, it really is no one's fault but their own. So parents of MW, I have to wounder, what would you think if when your child grows into a teenager and comes to you and tells you, what they are doing is not working and they would like to try something like Advanced Academics's programs what would you say? Why do you believe so many parents will only allow their child to do a treditional highschool? Why are some parents not listening when their child comes to them saying that its not working and that they need help? Are they too busy? they don't have anything to do with the schooling if they don't want to.

(sorry this turned into a bit of a rant, I am going through this with my mother at the moment. I am just woundering what the parents here think of programs like this. http://www.highschoolontheweb.com/?source=aaihome this is the program i spoke of that is free to its students)

Ceres
February 11th, 2008, 03:46 PM
You might like this book: The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How To Quit School and Get a Real Life and Education by Grace Lewellyn

http://www.amazon.ca/Teenage-Liberation-Handbook-School-Education/dp/0962959170/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202766012&sr=8-1

I know of people using online high school courses and there are manyto choose from. Some are free, some are not and many are poorly set up, so you need to do your research to see whats avaialble to you. I personally dont have much faith in the public school system to teach what is pertinent and to not indoctrinate my children, though by high school I feel they are prepared to choose for themselves.

Most importantly, you need to find a way to to what you want to do. Now more than ever there are options available and ways around getting the education you want to do what you want to do. Try reading some John Taylor Gatto essays online as well. They are free and may give you a feel for alternatives available to you : http://www.spinninglobe.net/gattopage.htm

RainInanna
February 11th, 2008, 03:54 PM
So parents of MW, I have to wounder, what would you think if when your child grows into a teenager and comes to you and tells you, what they are doing is not working and they would like to try something like Advanced Academics's programs what would you say? Why do you believe so many parents will only allow their child to do a treditional highschool? Why are some parents not listening when their child comes to them saying that its not working and that they need help? Are they too busy? they don't have anything to do with the schooling if they don't want to.

Incidentally, one of my best friends took many of her courses part-time through a separate distance learning school - so at home, at her own pace, even before classes could be online. She enjoyed it, and avoided school due to some social problems, thereby completing highschool. Otherwise she would've just dropped out for good I think, and that just isn't reasonable anymore IMHO

But you mention "so many" - I don't really think there is a lot of kids who want that. I understand that you do and am sorry your mother doesn't understand. But I really don't know how to answer your questions because honestly, I can't imagine why parents wouldn't want to do this. Why is your mother against it?

angle kitsune
February 11th, 2008, 03:58 PM
thanks, the advanced academics programs are the only free one you can get in Alaska and is better set up then most of the free ones around the US as well as better set up the the "get your deploma fast" programs alot of internet colleges offer. This is more meeting my grandmother in the middle, i was going to get my GED and go to jobcorps. I have looked at alot of the internet programs and this one issues its deploma from a city in Alaska. the public schools in my city are pretty good, I just have a very bad batch of teachers and can not get switched and most of them are two year classes that I am not even half way done with. One teacher does not speak english, another does not care at all, one is more interested in her catering business that she uses her rooms kitchens for rather then teaching us how to cook. another, you must understand everything the first way through if not, you were sleeping. Oh and I can't get switched out of the classes- too far into the year and not enough open spaces. I also get headachs easy from noise, like yelling and the things a out of control class does so ones that happens i shut down or I will kill someone. So yes, public school not working for me. anyway I have missed enough days its amazing they havent thrown me out yet lol

angle kitsune
February 11th, 2008, 04:02 PM
in my school most of the drop outs are just too far behind and cant afford to pay to take classes after their 5 free years are up or want to finish but see working as a better choice. I mean " so many" in my area. most of my friends that are in my place can't get on programs like this becouse their parents will not allow it. My school, the old teachers are great but it is 1/4 teachers fresh out of college who don't know what they are doing. I know of alot of students who feel they would be better off doing this but do not know how to go about it or are blocked by their parents.


oh, RainInanna, my mother is not for this becouse to her it is still droping out in her weird druged up mind. And becouse her friends tell her it is a bad idea(it is, in their weird druged up minds as well.)

RainInanna
February 11th, 2008, 04:03 PM
what is their parents' excuse?

I dunno, I just can't imagine it. My parents were so pro finishing highschool, they wouldn't possibly have put up with me missing school rather then letting me do it online.

angle kitsune
February 11th, 2008, 04:09 PM
from what i gather its becouse they are not used to it, they couldent do it this way when they where kids then why should their kids. Alot of parents that refuse this program in my school its becosue they dont really understand or listen when their student says that its not working for them. Some think the kid wants to be lazy, others just don't care and I hate that more then anything. I don't really get what some of the parents are thinking anyway, when their kid is on the verge of getting kicked out due to low grades or not going to class and there is something that can help them they turn away from it.

Against The Tide
February 11th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Studying from home can be fantastic if you have a hectic schedule and need a bit more freedom in terms of requiring a longer, freer time scale. Some things to consider:

* That what you are studying is the course that you need - If its out of interest then good for you. But just as syllabusses can vary from college to college, the course content can vary between schools and internet courses. Some employers see home study very possitively, as something that shows hard work, willing to sacrifice lesiure time to advance ones self, drive and so on... But some employers do not value the qualifications you may gain. The courses arn't regulated like schools are. Standards may be slacker, they may feel that you are missing out on personal interaction and practical work that they consider essential to carry out whatever role you are hoping your newfound experience gets you.
* Do some shopping. Ring various employment assistance and adult education centres (eg, Job Centre Plus, Work Zone, Carter and Carter, Ethnic City and so on...) and ask what they believe the employers stance on those certifications are, maybe if you know anyone in the industries you are interested in, give them a call and ask them to ask them to check with HR and recruiting managers.
* Look at the true costs of these courses. I took one in A+ N+ computers and networking , they put the prices up and messed me around and all sorts. I returned the course material before the cancelation period was over, and because of problems in their postroom they didn't acknowledge that it had been received and I spent 18 months eluding collectors :s :s :s

I wish you the best of luck in whatever you do.

Lyrien
February 11th, 2008, 04:36 PM
So parents of MW, I have to wounder, what would you think if when your child grows into a teenager and comes to you and tells you, what they are doing is not working and they would like to try something like Advanced Academics's programs what would you say?

The state of Florida has a very good online middle and high school. My daughter is enrolled in two classes at at the middle school. We homeschool, so you probably aren't going to get the most unbiased opinion out of me, but I'm obviously all for alternative schooling.

FLVS (http://www.flvs.net/) is free for Florida residents, I'm not sure how much they charge for out of state students, but I know it's available.

RainInanna
February 11th, 2008, 04:36 PM
That's a good point too, especially when it comes to online college level courses. The ones I take are through the province and regulated. But I know there are scammer schools out there that take your money and yet aren't worth the pixels they're printed on. Especially when employers know that and won't accept their diplomas/degrees.

angle kitsune
February 11th, 2008, 04:49 PM
the one I am looking at is regulated and the credits I have now will transpher and any credits I get will transpher to any school in Alaska. I plan to also get my GED during my online studies or before i start it that way if someone does not like the online highschool I will at least have that to show.