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MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 11:01 AM
Sounds like a crazy question to ask but truthfuly is it?

How many times do you run accross a request for energy for this or that purpose. In most instances you open a thread, fully aware of the intent of the thread, ie requesting your energy. In many ways your energy is used once you open the thread and start reading. One the first word is read the spell or ritual begins to be woven and formatted until it is released.

So what happens when you open a thread without any for warning that it is a spell or ritual in progress? If it is not formatted in rhyme or verse it may not even be apparent that a spell or ritual is being initiated.

Yet as you read, I've leeched your energy and added it to the purpose I have initiated. I created the though and form within your psyche and have placed the charge upon my words. Your reading has placed extra energy upon my purpose.

Now granted you may stop reading at any time. Once stopped, the energy build-up is in affect halted and no guidance or direction is provided to my spell work. However, if you keep reading by the time you get to the finish I have prepared the soil, planted the spell roots and harvested your energy for my spell.

Now some may say "No, that could not happen for I have protections in place". Yet I differ for your protection is only valid against what attempts to penetrate your sphere. My spell has no such purpose no affect upon you or at you, I have just used your assistance to make it stronger or maybe even get it launched.

By reading my spell or ritual you have voluntereed your assistance, with or without your permission. Your reading of said spell has placed it into an active category. The only thing you have full control over is the amount of emotion you allow to be implanted upon my words. If my words are well written and focused even that may not be a factor as I weave my spell.

Sound far fetched? Is it? Did I just weave a spell in this thread? Honestly, no but if you read each word and it caused a reaction then I did raise your energy and tie it to my purpose.

Though my purpose is only to ask a question it opens the door to so many possibilites.

Just food for though.........

Yep I'm hurting from the incoming storm so let my mind analysis things to take the focus elsewhere.

cesara
March 4th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Interesting theory.

Speaking just for myself, I would say go ahead and use whatever energy I expend here...obviously you feel you need it more than I do.[if that were the case]

Energy flows through me, not from me, so the energy is simply universal energy with some focus. You wouldn't be 'leeching' my personal energy -- and if I can help you by channeling some universal energy -- have at it! :)

Lunacie
March 4th, 2008, 11:17 AM
I give my attention when I read through a post (or a thread) but I don't feel I am giving any energy unless I make a conscious effort and focus my intent on sending energy.

mtpathy
March 4th, 2008, 11:34 AM
ive never written a spell for the spacific purpose of drawing energy from the reader to the benifit of the spell thats being read, i have drawn pictures and displayed them in activley public areas so that those who pass by it, over it, or on it would passivley draw energy into it.
ive been attempting to draw pictures in such a way that when others observe it, it draws from them, and yet within the flow of the image the energy thats drawn is self contained and accumulates in a single part of the image as to spontaiously create sigil, but sigil as well would be trapped into the image and can only be removed by intent of the one removing the sigil/entity.
ever since i read the thread on urban gods, ive been trying to work with my sigils and construct them in such a way where the "people" create the entity not the individual.

cheddarsox
March 4th, 2008, 04:46 PM
Pantheist here, so here is my take. Nothing is MINE. I am part of the Universe, it "owns" me. If some of my energy goes into something, there is more to be had. No one can completely drain my account, and leave me bankrupt and with energy checks bouncing...unless I let myself forget that I can draw on the Universal energy.

Me, mine, you, yours are words that are meaningless when it comes to ultimate reality. But they are useful on a mortal level, and in human society, but if I let myself give the words power and allow the words (which are just tools) to control me, that is my loss...not ultimate reality.

Like a previous poster said...if you/they need it that bad...then have it! The Universe has more. I don't consider that "stealing", though, I'll admit, sometimes it peeves me, but usually when I'm feeling small, and forgetting that I am part of the awesome whole.

When I get back to practicing awareness and acknowledgment...I'm Ok about letting the energy go where it is needed, trusting that it will likewise be there for me. And if it isn't...there really isn't anything I can do about it anyway.

I refer to is as the energy-go-round. And I've learned that it is way more fun and thrilling to feel it moving THROUGH me than it is to try to contain it within myself. I'd rather be a conduit than a bomb.

cheddar

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 05:21 PM
Cesara wrote:


obviously you feel you need it more than I do.[if that were the case]



No just trying to get a conversation started. Actually the root of this scenario derives from the old concept of if you know a things name you have power over it and ability to use it.

Add that I think energy can be leeched off in many ways that we usually don't think about. For instance, certain songs can cause your energy to raise or certain words. Now if I can take and tap into that energy and use it for my purpose the results could be anything.

Almost like a magicla time bomb that builds until it reached a point where enough has been feed into it to make it go bam,

Add that when my back hurts my mind drifts into all sorts of possible scenarios to ponder and analyse.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Lunacie wrote:


but I don't feel I am giving any energy unless I make a conscious effort and focus my intent on sending energy


I don't disagree that more energy would be applied if it is a conscious effort. However, I also think we are like power lines in that a certain amount of energy leakage occurs around all of us. As a norm we really do not control or formulate that energy yet it can still be manipulated by the outside affecting upon it.

Sort of along the lines that if one takes a copper cable and lays it near a power line it will conduct energy. Lay a cable near a cable line and some side energy can be picked up. That does not even really touch upon the standing wave or feedback wave upon the line.

That is the area I think can be touched upon without a persons intent or awarness.

Though I would have no idea how to completely turn off that lateral wave or insulate against energy leakage.

Lunacie
March 4th, 2008, 05:36 PM
I don't know how complete it was, but I was pretty well shielded at one point, both from feeling the energy coming at me, but also from any energy leaking away from me. I needed that space at the time, but it took too long for me to get the lesson, and it got pretty lonely and stale inside the shield.

Otherwise, yeah, we all leak energy if you want to put it that way. Looking at a drawing of the chakras and the aura it's clear that for some people the aura energy extends much further out. However, in your initial post it seemed you were asking about draining off more than that auric energy, that you were talking about tapping into a person's inner energy by way of their thoughts.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 05:37 PM
mtpathy wrote:


ever since i read the thread on urban gods, ive been trying to work with my sigils and construct them in such a way where the "people" create the entity not the individual.


Now would that be a sigil or would that be a construct? I've seen sigils used as guards, wards and barriers but never one where an entity was actually created by a sigil. Actually can't think of an example where a sigil has been used to provide energy to an entity.

I would think it would be a construct, sort of like a golem or other construct that is charged by the energy of a rechargable power source obtained from unaware people. Almost like an energy vampire or psychic vampire.

Yet if a sigil is set before it I would also think the sigil would be a barrier to the entity (construct). Almost as if your drawing were a gateway and the signal allows energy to pass inward but prevents the construct from passign outward.

Sorry do not have a lot of experience with sigils outside of a general knowledge from the books of Solomon.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Lunacie wrote:


However, in your initial post it seemed you were asking about draining off more than that auric energy, that you were talking about tapping into a person's inner energy by way of their thoughts.


Yeah I could see that conclusion from my writing. That's what I get for writing at work between breaks. he he he

I was sort of thinking along the lines that the vibration of the persons energy would "change" the leakage to match what ever was being cast or spelt out in the written word. The person may guard to an extent thier inner but the impact of the message woudl still resonate a bit on the outer unprotected.

What's bad is the though of Auric field didn't cross my mind. I've alwasy suspected that once trained a person could pull or extend that energy so it was under control of the inner spirit.

Hmm, now that does make me wonder if that field is susceptable to outside manipulation? Is their a level of it that acts as a buffer that can be changed to match and reflect an outer field while keeping the inner field stable and intact?

So many questions to ponder.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 05:53 PM
cheddarsox wrote:


I refer to is as the energy-go-round. And I've learned that it is way more fun and thrilling to feel it moving THROUGH me than it is to try to contain it within myself. I'd rather be a conduit than a bomb.



I like the idea of an energy go round. Take what is needed until full then push the valvue to bypass to allow the rest to pass through. I just wonder what is the energy charge then? I can't see it as being positive nor negative, just thier until your own body acts upon it to induce the alignment charge needed?

I sometimes think we hit those bombs frequently that result in some severe headaches. The disruption causing us pain and incapacation at times. I think sometimes they also act as dam busters that wreck out holding facility and cause a mass dumping of our own energy. We are wiped out after they occur both physically and mentaly.

Lunacie
March 4th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah I could see that conclusion from my writing. That's what I get for writing at work between breaks. he he he

I was sort of thinking along the lines that the vibration of the persons energy would "change" the leakage to match what ever was being cast or spelt out in the written word. The person may guard to an extent thier inner but the impact of the message woudl still resonate a bit on the outer unprotected.

What's bad is the though of Auric field didn't cross my mind. I've alwasy suspected that once trained a person could pull or extend that energy so it was under control of the inner spirit.

Hmm, now that does make me wonder if that field is susceptable to outside manipulation? Is their a level of it that acts as a buffer that can be changed to match and reflect an outer field while keeping the inner field stable and intact?

So many questions to ponder.

Hmm, yes I can see how the auric field would change along with our mental or emotional state (perhaps even our spiritual state), and I think that is reflected in the way our aura looks different when seen with a Kirilian camera if taken at different times.

Those who are experienced at seeing or sensing auras may even notice that someone's aura seems more red when they are upset about something, or more yellow when they have been doing some deep thinking.

The auric field can be expanded or contracted by our reaction to what is happening, either in our lives or in our surroundings, which I think is mostly an unconscious reaction. But that sounds like a very interesting thing for my class to check out this weekend - looking at auras and trying to expand them or contract them consciously, deliberately, with intent.

As far as someone else manipulating that auric field from the outside, I think that is most likely possible, with different degrees of success on whether either person has any experience in working with those energies.

Which brings to mind an episode of "Ghost Hunters" where a homeowner claims to be a medium, something that Jason Hawes doesn't put much faith in. While the medium was trying to 'read' Jason, Grant Wilson had the thermal camera running and it recorded a very high level of energy between the two men which seemed as though either the medium was pulling energy from Grant, or that Grant's energy was moving outwards as a shield or blockage.
http://www.scifi.com/ghosthunters/episodes/episodes.php?seas=2&ep=0213&act=3

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 06:40 PM
Lunacie wrote:


While the medium was trying to 'read' Jason, Grant Wilson had the thermal camera running and it recorded a very high level of energy between the two men which seemed as though either the medium was pulling energy from Grant, or that Grant's energy was moving outwards as a shield or blockage.



That reminds me of something I saw once where a person was taken in a photo that was reading an object. The item glowed as did the hands and area around it. Of course in that exchange no energy was passed but the reader did view impressions from the item.

Does make one wonder about energy vamps and stealing energy in a one on one situation, up close and personal. Yet I now wonder if it could be done through another source.

I still wonder about manipulation via the written word. I'll be honest though I'm not sure how one would go about puling it back to them from so many possible sources. Especially when the target would not be in their physical presence.

Lunacie
March 4th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Well, as someone who does tarot or rune readings online I seem to be able to tap into someone's energy over a distance via their written posts. And I have been able to send healing or Reiki energies via the internet as well.

My brain has suddenly gone foggy - but what about the guy in the 30's I think it was who could diagnosis illness by having people send him letters and was then able to sending healing energies to them or prescribe treatment for them? (cannot remember his name)

Are those not a form of manipulating someone's energy via the written word?

MonSno_LeeDra
March 4th, 2008, 07:15 PM
In retrospect I have been accused of "reachng out and touching someone" a number of times where I have used thier writing and letters to align me to them. Yet it's one of those things where we mark it down to chance.

I find if I get an impressionof someone from their written word on the net I can project and see what I think is them. Of course it then falls to the person I am projecting to to verify that it was them I saw.

In that same light I have "encouraged" people to do or not do something by usuing thier word as a means of connecting to them.

But that makes me wonder about our means of locking on and touching them. As a prior military person my first instinct is to look for an opening to attack or undermine in my favor. To basically find any weakness I can exploit.

From your (Lunacie) description as a reader or healer I wonder if the opening being looked for is that different? Our reason would be different but I think the area affected would be the same.

Two reasons for manipulating or usuing thier energy with vastly different reasons. I find anger to be a good backdoor for many avenues are left open I wonder as a healer reader would pain be a good door for entrance? From a point of manipulating I know if I can get them angry they make stupid mistakes does pain cause them to make rash decesions or leave a point open to exploit?

If an opening exists then is it to far fetched to think one can steal or usuper thier power without them being aware? Makes one wonder just how much is contained in our written word and how many openings into us does it allow that we may not think about on the surface?

mtpathy
March 4th, 2008, 07:52 PM
mtpathy wrote:



Now would that be a sigil or would that be a construct? I've seen sigils used as guards, wards and barriers but never one where an entity was actually created by a sigil. Actually can't think of an example where a sigil has been used to provide energy to an entity.

I would think it would be a construct, sort of like a golem or other construct that is charged by the energy of a rechargable power source obtained from unaware people. Almost like an energy vampire or psychic vampire.

Yet if a sigil is set before it I would also think the sigil would be a barrier to the entity (construct). Almost as if your drawing were a gateway and the signal allows energy to pass inward but prevents the construct from passign outward.

Sorry do not have a lot of experience with sigils outside of a general knowledge from the books of Solomon.

It sounds like you have the correct thought process, the point of this sigil is that it collects energy from those that pass by it, that is its function. however the function of the drawing thats around the sigil is that it "contains" and "animates" the vibration thats collected, my idea behind this, is that all vibration thats collected is pushed into the drawing, and in turn all vibration thats pushed into the drawing is collected back again into the sigil.

this should create a constant ripple, and as this ripple becomes more intense it should start being "recognized" through the environment that its contained within, what im meaning by the statment "being recognized" by the environment that its contained within, is what would a entity be if created in the middle of a highway? or what would a entity be if created at a cemetery? it would most naturally contain the vibration that the environment intails, so shall the face thats placed onto the vibration by those that give it energy.

i use methods like this for my own personel conjuring, but this will be the first experiment to see how or if it'll work in the public environment.
either way it may prove intresting.

Sequoia
March 5th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Sure, if you subscribe to the theory that mere thought is equal to action, then yes, thinking about a subject gives energy to that subject. So in theory, just reading a thread would submit energy to it.

Frankly, people expend plenty of energy here on MW unintentionally. It's easy to do. Get worked up over something? You're tied into it. Post in a thread? You've become part of it's life. It's a very simple concept.

That said, I don't think it's anything vital that we give, unless we make a conscious effort. Stringy bits of excess energy and attention are given easily, but we must make an effort to provide any kind of true energy.

I don't think there are "spider web" threads that people are "drawn into" and "caught" to be "sucked dry" or anything like that. Something like that would require some serious malicious intent and previous workings by a person, and I'm not sure if such a thing is possible over a medium as fluid and yet distant as the internet. Someone would have to have already put a great deal of energy into such a working. Though any basic shielding would probably protect you from such a "trap."

And if anything like that ever showed up, you can bet that the admins would have it deleted faster than you can say "jinx!"

Solya
March 5th, 2008, 06:24 AM
Of course words, and therefore also threads, hold some form of power which can serve as an energetic beacon. Everything in the universe vibrates and when two or more vibrations correspond with one another you get an exchange of energy. :smile: Whenever I post in a thread, I willingly give others a peek into my thoughts/emotions/life. This can be seen as putting out a vibration in response to the vibration the thread caused within me.

Providing the maker of a thread with full-blast energy, however, is something I do very very rarely. As a healer, I merely send energy that person's way... what their system does with it is what is needed. The energy is not mine anymore once it's sent out.

Enlightenment1
March 6th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Interesting thread :)

I think we all give little snip-bits of our energy when we reply to a thread i.e. I'm giving some of my energy right now typing this, but as for giving out enough energy for others to take and "play" with well that's another matter all together, there has got to be a lot of energy built up in the first place for someone to just steal it like that and use for whatever reason.
I know I don't give out a lot of my own energy (especially online in forums, etc) and the bit I do give out online when replying to someone or starting my own thread wouldn't be much use to anyone else... Not IMO, anyway.

Saying all that though, I've come across enough psychic Vampires online in the last year or so, ones that would steal the smallest amount of a persons energy just for the sake of doing so really, and this is online in forums too.

This is why shielding is SO important!!!

Garm
March 6th, 2008, 05:44 PM
Sounds like a crazy question to ask but truthfuly is it?

How many times do you ....

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Just food for though.........

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I'm sure it is all perfectly feasible

I just don't think it is a good idea to make a habit of thinking in such terms

One can start getting little overly concerned about energies being "leeched"

I am sure more than one really ugly witch war has started that way

MonSno_LeeDra
March 7th, 2008, 07:35 AM
Garm wrote:


I just don't think it is a good idea to make a habit of thinking in such terms


I'm curious, if we don't try to think outside the box and look at all facets of a thing do we not do a dis-service to ourselves and our paths? I agree that it can become a trap if we focus on one extreme and allow for no other input or opinion though.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 7th, 2008, 07:52 AM
Enlightenment1 wrote:


I know I don't give out a lot of my own energy (especially online in forums, etc) and the bit I do give out online when replying to someone or starting my own thread wouldn't be much use to anyone else... Not IMO, anyway


I agree that as an indiviudal we on average do not load a thread with a great deal of energy unless it really speaks to us or angers us. From that angle I suppose that not much is left upon a place by a given individual.

Yet I wonder if a site can not in some ways become like a dam that takes each little sliver of energy and allow it to pool. Each drop by itself not great but allow the collective drops of all to pool and you can create quite a pool of energy.

Sort of hard to put into words but thier are sites that you go into and it's like they are filled with hate and anger that just festors. You don't even have to open a thread to feel it it just overwhelms you soon as you open the door to the site. Their are other sites that do not have the festering sensation but the presence of the energy on the site is felt immediately.

I actually talked to a person that said thier site did a semi-annual release of energy on thier site every six months. I guess it helped for other wise thier where things that just happened yet when the energy was released it stopped a lot of it.

Inversely I once wanted to be a profiler so still read a lot of sites on murders and such and thier history. I find that at times the very energy of the site and the criminal it spoke of can infect you as the reader in ways that just boggle the mind. I once though it happened because some came to learn others to fantasize and even a few to live the event and get thier jollys off on it.

Lunacie
March 7th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Enlightenment1 wrote:



I agree that as an indiviudal we on average do not load a thread with a great deal of energy unless it really speaks to us or angers us. From that angle I suppose that not much is left upon a place by a given individual.

Yet I wonder if a site can not in some ways become like a dam that takes each little sliver of energy and allow it to pool. Each drop by itself not great but allow the collective drops of all to pool and you can create quite a pool of energy.

This is true I think, in the same way that a ritual or a ceremony takes on more meaning and has an energy of it's own after being done countless times by many people.

Sort of hard to put into words but thier are sites that you go into and it's like they are filled with hate and anger that just festors. You don't even have to open a thread to feel it it just overwhelms you soon as you open the door to the site. Their are other sites that do not have the festering sensation but the presence of the energy on the site is felt immediately.

I actually talked to a person that said thier site did a semi-annual release of energy on thier site every six months. I guess it helped for other wise thier where things that just happened yet when the energy was released it stopped a lot of it.

Ah, that sounds like a very good idea, similar to those who do "spring housecleaning" or semi-annual cleansing and warding on their home.

Inversely I once wanted to be a profiler so still read a lot of sites on murders and such and thier history. I find that at times the very energy of the site and the criminal it spoke of can infect you as the reader in ways that just boggle the mind. I once though it happened because some came to learn others to fantasize and even a few to live the event and get thier jollys off on it.

I hadn't had any real experience with that kind of energy until a couple of years ago when a serial rapist/killer was caught here in this area after a 30 year reign of terror. Actually most of the killings (there were 10 of them as I recall) were done in the 70's, but since the killer had never been caught the threat remained in the minds of those who lived around here.

Well, most of the killings took place in Wichita and I live east of that city, but the killer himself lived in a suburb just north of Wichita and I clean a beauty salon there every Sunday. For a couple of weeks after he was caught the energy in the salon from the people simply talking about it was soooo icky. They were all talking about how they had known this man for so many years and had seen some issues, but never dreamed he was the infamous "B.T.K."

The capper for me was that after mopping the floor for those first two weeks, when I poured out the mop water it had a really nasty stench to it, that I had never smelled before and have not smelled since. You could just tell by smelling it that it contained the disgust, fear, anger, and all the other emotions that had been spilled out during the conversations in the salon during those weeks.

I could have cleansed and grounded the energies psychically, but doing my simple weekly cleaning and mopping seemed to do the job just fine.

Enlightenment1
March 7th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Enlightenment1 wrote:



I agree that as an indiviudal we on average do not load a thread with a great deal of energy unless it really speaks to us or angers us. From that angle I suppose that not much is left upon a place by a given individual.

Yet I wonder if a site can not in some ways become like a dam that takes each little sliver of energy and allow it to pool. Each drop by itself not great but allow the collective drops of all to pool and you can create quite a pool of energy.

Sort of hard to put into words but thier are sites that you go into and it's like they are filled with hate and anger that just festors. You don't even have to open a thread to feel it it just overwhelms you soon as you open the door to the site. Their are other sites that do not have the festering sensation but the presence of the energy on the site is felt immediately.

I actually talked to a person that said thier site did a semi-annual release of energy on thier site every six months. I guess it helped for other wise thier where things that just happened yet when the energy was released it stopped a lot of it.

Inversely I once wanted to be a profiler so still read a lot of sites on murders and such and thier history. I find that at times the very energy of the site and the criminal it spoke of can infect you as the reader in ways that just boggle the mind. I once though it happened because some came to learn others to fantasize and even a few to live the event and get thier jollys off on it.

I'm sure there are sites on the net that do let the energy build up and take slithers of it, bits from here, bits from there, until it's like a dam and ready to burst (hence the nasty, icky feelings we often get when entering a new site). I've sure felt it before, damn, I've even entered a site on one occasion and left in the first minute because the place just felt "yucky" :sick: That release of energy you mentioned they do on one site sounds like a damn good idea if you ask me :)

As we all know, some people get off on other peoples upset, anger, worry, etc, etc. and I suppose it's no different from some site/forum owners who act like this. If you think about it, like attracts like, probably why some forums are full of the same kind of icky people, and the site owners do nothing to stop it but more so to attract it - they feed of it. In the end you're left with a forum/site full of negative energy, all collected up over time from each negative individual.

I literally cannot stay on some websites/forums, I'm just too sensitive. In a way I'm glad though, who wants to be around that kind of crap anyway?

cheddarsox
March 8th, 2008, 05:55 AM
Enlightenment1 wrote:



I agree that as an indiviudal we on average do not load a thread with a great deal of energy unless it really speaks to us or angers us. From that angle I suppose that not much is left upon a place by a given individual.

Yet I wonder if a site can not in some ways become like a dam that takes each little sliver of energy and allow it to pool. Each drop by itself not great but allow the collective drops of all to pool and you can create quite a pool of energy.

Sort of hard to put into words but thier are sites that you go into and it's like they are filled with hate and anger that just festors. You don't even have to open a thread to feel it it just overwhelms you soon as you open the door to the site. Their are other sites that do not have the festering sensation but the presence of the energy on the site is felt immediately.

I actually talked to a person that said thier site did a semi-annual release of energy on thier site every six months. I guess it helped for other wise thier where things that just happened yet when the energy was released it stopped a lot of it.

Inversely I once wanted to be a profiler so still read a lot of sites on murders and such and thier history. I find that at times the very energy of the site and the criminal it spoke of can infect you as the reader in ways that just boggle the mind. I once though it happened because some came to learn others to fantasize and even a few to live the event and get thier jollys off on it.

I've definitely experienced this on threads here and other forums, and even reading certain books, etc. I think there is something to it.

Music is another good example...something is "captured" there that creates a response in us. Someone puts something in, that we can take out. Why not the same with words on a screen?

I know folks insist that "emotions and tone don't carry on a screen" and shout "misunderstanding" when anyone "takes something the wrong way" and I know misunderstandings do occur, but I also think that we CAN read a whole lot of tone and emotion correctly and do. I think it carries somehow.

Without a doubt a put energy into every thread I read, and even more when I post. It is tallied up right on the screen and people pay attention...viewed 67 times, 14 responses, that kind of thing.

And we use that info to determine if we want to "go there"...some people will say 29 responses! I don't have the energy to read all that, while another will think 29 responses...sounds like a hot thread, I can't miss that.

Or we read who has responded last and check in because we want to see what they have to say, or avoid it because that poster is a turn off to us. Definitely lots of energy exchange going on. And "karma" here is an obvious way of giving and taking away.

I am addicted to some sites because of the tingly rush I feel in my body when I visit them...and they are not porn, or photo sites or whatever, but there is some energy there that gets me going inside. something there I am reacting to.

great thread!

MonSno_LeeDra
March 8th, 2008, 09:59 PM
cheddarsox wrote:

And "karma" here is an obvious way of giving and taking away.

That is one energy source I didn't even think about when I started this thread. But you are right, thier are numerious Karma trains and passing of karmic energy through "touches". That really doesn't even touch upon the individual putting forth the effort of touching a persons karma.

Now I wonder if thier is a build up when we try to touch a persons karma but can not and are told we must spread it around before we can touch that individual again.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 8th, 2008, 10:16 PM
Lunacie wrote:

but never dreamed he was the infamous "B.T.K."


Now he was one sick puppy. Bind, Torture and Kill (BTK)

Sometimes when I was reading up on the killers and such I would think back to the movie "WHITENOISE" and remember the scene where the shadow creature's feed off the fear and pain inflicted upon the victims.

Sometimes I wondered if the very fear a victim may have felt was not regenerated on the site at times. Some accounts or stories would fill you with dread, others bring you to tears and some leave a taste in my mouth that was metalic and satly like blood.

I have to admit the one's that filled me the worst where always about the pedofile murders. It was like the child energy was pure and vibrant and that was what drew the killer to them. Even in death that energy could be felt, yet the corruption it was submitted to was chocking and mind warping.

I was in Scotland when the Yorkshire Ripper was on the rampage and the talk of him would fill a room with a think black ooze that seemed to cover everything. The deeper the conversation got the more it felt like you needed a bath to wash it off.

Ironicaly, the energy from the children was like the fear that I felt as a firefighter when I showed up at a accident that a child was involved in. We could face almost anything else but that energy signature slammed us to the ground and was like a weight upon our shoulders we could barely carry.

MonSno_LeeDra
March 8th, 2008, 10:31 PM
Empathy,

If your construct is being defined by the area it draws it's power from and the sigil is acting as a long term storage battery, how do you purpose to control it? It would seem to me that the creation would have to potential to go amuck for the variations in received energy would make it unstable and focused only to the extent that energy is present in the sigil to enpower it.

I would also think that like the killer sites, the energy would be negative or positive so may not be fully supportive of what you envision the creation to be doing.

If the energy where to be stripped of its charge then what would be left as usuable charge? Sort of like asking is it going to be Direct Current (DC) or Alternating Currect (AC).

Though I guess what really plagues me is how would it be controlled? As the creator if you are not charging it then are you in essence controlling it? If it is left to a stand alone receiptor collection then at what point does it finish its life duration and at which point do you loose control of it. It would seem that as a passive collector of energy you as a creator would no longer be needed.