Binding Spells?

[Ravendancer]

To Bind or not to Bind?

Been talking with others and it seems that there are a few of us that agree to disagree. :spinnysmi
Just thought it might be fun to have other opinions on this topic.

Myself, I think that a binding should not be done until everything mundane has been done that can be done. I think that it is something that needs to be taken VERY serious. Unless of course you are binding a habit, such as smoking or some sort of a drug from your own self. But when binding a person, one should be very sure that it is what they are comfortable with. Know that this is the person that is attacking you. The Karma back lash could be more then you want.

Only my opinion though....

Just curious to see what others have to say.

[MonSno_LeeDra]

I personally do not think you can ever reach a universal concensus on this one. The very nature of its purpose is defined by the scope of the person casting it.

To you (as an example not an attack) you may think that all mundane possibilites may not have been tested thus would not cast it. Yet are the levels of understanding and evaluation equal for both of us? Do we view the evidence the same? Do we reach the same conclusions of guilt? I highly doubt that.

Do we even hold the same level of punishment for a given crime or infringement? If at any time the answer is different then thier is no way we can reach the same conclusion and take the same recourse.

I think many would say its both a moral issue and an obligatory issue. What are my obligations to do what is right, based upon my persception, versus what the general population may think.

I think it is also a religious driven ideal based upon your concept of sin and retribution. If your concept is all love and forgiveness then you'll not accept one being cast. If your concept is based upon an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth, then the person better watch out.



Know that this is the person that is attacking you


I would say that is where the problem lies. A person does not have to be attacking me for him / her to be doing something that would cause me to drop a wall on them.

[Lunacie]

Yep, it doesn't have to be an attack to warrant a binding on my part. I once did a binding to hold someone to his sworn word, for a limited duration.

[BlackLili]

I think this can also depend on a person's definition of what a binding actually does.

Some people use them to bind someone to them, so they can feel "linked." Some people use them to bind others' actions, to prevent them from doing one thing or to force them into doing another. Other folks use bindings to keep people bound to a geographical location or to prevent them from ever going there.

Overall, the purpose of what we currently call a binding spell seems to be Compulsion. Either over ourselves or over another person, we're attempting to Compel them (using the general "them" here,) to either do or not do something.

What this boils down to is an argument over the ethics of causing a Compulsion in another person. The argument is this: Do we, as individuals, have the right to interfere with another person's (theoretically) free will?

This opens the argument over what Free Will actually is, and how our mere existence in this world and our every single interaction with others changes and affects that supposedly "free" Will.

Following this conclusion, if not only our magic(k)al intentions have the power to change other people's actions and opinions, but what clothes we wear, how we present ourselves, how we act and react to situations all have the power to Compel as well. Then you have to consider - where should the line be drawn? At what point do you cross the line from "normal" or "everyday" Compulsion into "abnormal" or for lack of a better term, "supernatural" Compulsion? Is there a line at all? Is it all the same?

From that line of questioning, you can determine for yourself if you have an ethical problem with Compelling others around you, and from there you have your answer about Bindings.

All that being said - that's also why you can't get just one straight answer. ;)

[Brigid Rowan]

I think a binding in which you bind their harmful intent, or in effect, cease them from harming others until they can see clearly and behave kindly doesnt have a karmic backlash. If someone is harming innocent people I have no issue binding them from continuing. Of course, I do mundane stuff too, that is something I always try (long and hard) to get to work FIRST.

I wont and havent ever tried to compel anyone to wear a certain color, or "luv me" or anything small or trivial or the like. I respect human free will, UNTIL someone tried to do harm to me or mine. Then, yeah, I have no issue smackin back.

You ask any mom or dad out there if they'd fight like a bear to protect their young, and they'll say yes. And with no regrets, either.

[Solya]

I protect myself and others from harm if need be, so I have no problems with a binding if I've exhausted all other options. I don't care if there's a karmic backlash or not in this case... if I've tried things nicely, with little to no avail, I am not going to have any qualms about doing things the hard way.

The only kind of binding I have a problem with, is the kind that's used to achieve something small and trivial like what colour a person should wear or something. I respect other people's sense of free will until this person's actions become harmful to their environment.

I have also once experienced something similar to binding, but it was done subconsciously while talking and only served to make a permanent connection between me and someone else. Coincidentally, this other person is the only one I have ever had to bind because of the energetic harm he did to me and others. This binding, however, was not permanent. During the period of his binding, he was taught by both me and others how to solve matters differently so the occasion of him harming people in his environment would not come to pass again. I released him from the binding when I felt he would be able to put the things he was taught to good and proper use.

[Ravendancer]

*Smiles* It is great to get other opinions.

I wanted to respond a little bit about me. I am a mother of 4 wonderful kids, and going to be a grandma in August. So protecting my children with no regret, yes that would be me. I have and sure will do a Binding if I need to protect my kids, self, husband, friends, or family.

Knowing that everyone has different backgrounds, beliefs, or thought processes. It is all those things that makes this world go around. I think that is a great thing.

I once did a binding on a woman that was saying things that were not true about me. It was very powerful for me. And it was also a great success, as she did stop for the most part doing what she was doing. Also used one to get myself off smoking, and it worked. *smiles* I know there are a lot of reasons as to why, from my belief, to actual Magic in my opinion.

Just wanted to share a little about me.