View Full Version : Someone kill this person before I do
Fluoxetine
April 12th, 2008, 07:28 AM
http://www.popgive.com/2008/03/since-when-starving-dog-to-death-is.html
According to this "artist", it is art to let a dog starve to death for the sake of art.
Yes the dog died. Guillermo Habacuc Vargas calls himself an artist and allowed people to watch as this dog starved to death for the sake of art.
Is it me or is this guy seriously tapped in the god damned head?
http://bp3.blogger.com/_osrVjnPbdEM/R-EAFuwKE3I/AAAAAAAAALw/bPiN2F-w0BE/s400/dog1.JPG
http://bp1.blogger.com/_osrVjnPbdEM/R-D_-ewKE1I/AAAAAAAAALg/hwItO_p0b-U/s400/dog3.JPG
There is a petition online to get this person taken to court for animal abuse. As I know this thread should be in current events, maybe it should be a sticky so members can see what depths people will go to for "art" and to see how bad someone can be to make a unloved animal suffer until it dies.
Personally from my view, I would do the same to him and see how he feels like it.
Here is the petition to sign:
http://www.petitiononline.com/13031953/petition.html
May hell greet him with open arms.
Bluewillow
April 12th, 2008, 08:06 AM
That poor dog. This is absolutely horrific and heartbreaking. I can only hope this sick bastard will get his in the long run, in one form or another. :grrrrr:
Infinite Grey
April 12th, 2008, 08:15 AM
I'm a little sceptical about this; it is probably an example of internet hype. The only evidence that the dog was actually starved and died is a few pictures of a skinny dog and a bunch of people milling around. The gallery director claims the dog was only on show for 3 hours and was fed regularly until it escaped; but this could be (and quite possibly is) a cover story.
Not that the Internet populations need much evidence to get their righteous anger to go supernova.
Philosophia
April 12th, 2008, 08:32 AM
I'm a little sceptical about this; it is probably an example of internet hype. The only evidence that the dog was actually starved and died is a few pictures of a skinny dog and a bunch of people milling around. The gallery director claims the dog was only on show for 3 hours and was fed regularly until it escaped; but this could be (and quite possibly is) a cover story.
Not that the Internet populations need much evidence to get their righteous anger to go supernova.
Exactly. It's still unverified on snopes (http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/vargas.asp) and we don't know if this story is being told the way it actually happened.
This blog page is reporting it as a hoax:
http://thepetextraordinarium.blogspot.com/2008/03/starving-dog-exhibit-reported-as-hoax.html
Fluoxetine
April 12th, 2008, 08:33 AM
I'm a little sceptical about this; it is probably an example of internet hype. The only evidence that the dog was actually starved and died is a few pictures of a skinny dog and a bunch of people milling around. The gallery director claims the dog was only on show for 3 hours and was fed regularly until it escaped; but this could be (and quite possibly is) a cover story.
Not that the Internet populations need much evidence to get their righteous anger to go supernova.
If it is, then it is very viral:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/news/story/0,,2269320,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Habacuc_Vargas
http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/27240/alleged-animal-abuse-sparks-outrage-against-artist/
Maybe it is true, but it does seem that Vargas is getting some death threats from the 1.8 million people that have signed the petition
Infinite Grey
April 12th, 2008, 09:34 AM
If it is, then it is very viral:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/news/story/0,,2269320,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Habacuc_Vargas
http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/27240/alleged-animal-abuse-sparks-outrage-against-artist/
Maybe it is true, but it does seem that Vargas is getting some death threats from the 1.8 million people that have signed the petition
Exactly why the internets sometimes makes me shake my head. I guess I am a little naive to believe that with access to so much information people would be a little more sceptical before jumping on a bandwagon.
Laisrean
April 12th, 2008, 09:58 AM
Who are the jackasses who consider this sort of thing art? It's bad enough when blobs of abstract colors that look like a pre-schooler's mishap are selling for millions of dollars, but now animal cruelty is considering art as well? :wtf:
See, this is why I think the NEA should be gotten rid of. I wouldn't be surprised if they were using our tax money to fund this, just like they fund crucifxes submerged in jars of urine and other tasteless crap.
BadVixen
April 12th, 2008, 11:18 AM
I say we tie him up in a gallery and watch him starve to death! WTF is wrong with the people?! If I had seen that I would have untied the dog and have taken him home with me! You have to wonder why the people didn't do anything, that make me more upset then the jerk who did it. It is time we stopped acting like lemmings and started acting on our own.
http://www.popgive.com/2008/03/since-when-starving-dog-to-death-is.html
According to this "artist", it is art to let a dog starve to death for the sake of art.
Yes the dog died. Guillermo Habacuc Vargas calls himself an artist and allowed people to watch as this dog starved to death for the sake of art.
Is it me or is this guy seriously tapped in the mol damned head?
http://bp3.blogger.com/_osrVjnPbdEM/R-EAFuwKE3I/AAAAAAAAALw/bPiN2F-w0BE/s400/dog1.JPG
http://bp1.blogger.com/_osrVjnPbdEM/R-D_-ewKE1I/AAAAAAAAALg/hwItO_p0b-U/s400/dog3.JPG
There is a petition online to get this person taken to court for animal abuse. As I know this thread should be in current events, maybe it should be a sticky so members can see what depths people will go to for "art" and to see how bad someone can be to make a unloved animal suffer until it dies.
Personally from my view, I would do the same to him and see how he feels like it.
Here is the petition to sign:
http://www.petitiononline.com/13031953/petition.html
May hell greet him with open arms.
Aidron
April 12th, 2008, 11:22 AM
I didn't read the articles, but since the claims made are still not proven is it possible he tied up a homeless stray to use as art (and fed it as payment) to convey starving animals we are responsible for as a type of art? :huh:
Toby Stimpson
April 12th, 2008, 01:36 PM
Im skepticle like others. There is no direct website or this artist... that I can ind, and other than internet blogs that link to each other and a petition... theres no news reports or anything. I highly doubt this is real.
WynterWynd
April 12th, 2008, 02:35 PM
The animal lover in me hopes this bastard hangs by his nads for this:flamer:
And the skeptic in me...oh hell, even that part of me thinks he...and anyone who looked upon this poor animal should hang by their bits too.
Art be damned, someone should have had the intelligence to take this poor animal out of that situation and take that poor skinny thing to a vet for care.....at the very least, take him home and feed him.:bastard:
Laisrean
April 12th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Yeah, this is probably like those emails you get by the exiled king of Nigeria where he needs your credit card info so he can overthrow the dictator and then when he has retaken control he promises he'll pay you millions of dollars. 8O
Aconite
April 12th, 2008, 02:59 PM
*glares* I HATE THE HUMAN RACE!
la tortuga
April 12th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Im skepticle like others. There is no direct website or this artist... that I can ind, and other than internet blogs that link to each other and a petition... theres no news reports or anything. I highly doubt this is real.
The news reports are all in Spanish, as it happened in Costa Rica. The general idea I've gathered is that the man put the dog on display for about three hours, fed it, and then let it go back on the streets. The point was that people don't notice starving animals on the street, but when it's a piece of art, they do. Now, I find the man to be quite hypocritical if he did, in fact, just release the dog back onto the streets, since obviously he didn't do very much to help the poor creature other than to stress it out quite a bit and then feed it some, then push it back out into the world it had existed in before. The message is true, the method was just very shady.
Laisrean
April 12th, 2008, 04:23 PM
*glares* I HATE THE HUMAN RACE!
I agree. This thread perfectly illustrates the human potential to seek "mob justice". The comments here show many people are perfectly eager and willing to lynch this artist, despite the fact we don't know if any of this is true or if that artist himself even exists.
It's kinda funny in a way, but also very sad how easy it is for us to pick up our pitch-forks and torches without any ounce of evidence of a person's guilt.
teishabee
April 12th, 2008, 04:32 PM
I think its more a case of trusting whats in print. Its a curse we all have. Just because its printed people feel this somehow validates it.
Garm
April 13th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Post-Modernism from the looks of it, the artistic, If I indulge them in their use of the word, aspect of this is putting out the idea of a dog being starved to death for art
I think
Kind of like a couple of twits who have been in the news, and in court, over the past year or two for fake bombs as art pieces
BTW if any body still feels like getting a lynch mob up and going this, uh, individual is a worthy candidate [Warning, not for the easily perturbed{I mean it}]
Somehow, it's the claimed motivations that bother me the most
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/974411.html
Stormbeard
April 13th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Lovely.
As barbaric as it's going to sound, I can completely understand where the 'art' lies in this piece. The artist did it to generate outrage. It raises a decent point. Put animal cruelty on a stage and suddenly 'up with this we will not put!' however when it's quietly hidden behind curtains and closed doors we don't seem to mind so much.
Infinite Grey
April 13th, 2008, 01:38 PM
*glares* I HATE THE HUMAN RACE!
Indeed, humans tend to leap before they look, to hate someone without evidence.
Djiril
April 13th, 2008, 01:43 PM
I agree. This thread perfectly illustrates the human potential to seek "mob justice". The comments here show many people are perfectly eager and willing to lynch this artist, despite the fact we don't know if any of this is true or if that artist himself even exists.
It's kinda funny in a way, but also very sad how easy it is for us to pick up our pitch-forks and torches without any ounce of evidence of a person's guilt.
Agreed.
Iris
April 13th, 2008, 02:34 PM
Did we find out whether this is true or not?
There's one version of the story which says the dog starved and died. There's another version which says the dog was only on display for 3 hours, was fed, and then released back onto the streets (supposedly it was a stray to begin with.)
I'd like to know the facts before I waste time getting outraged.
PrincessKLS
April 13th, 2008, 02:36 PM
OMG, even for a dark art piece this is way too far (hand over mouth gasping)
Sequoia
April 13th, 2008, 04:24 PM
Did we find out whether this is true or not?
There's one version of the story which says the dog starved and died. There's another version which says the dog was only on display for 3 hours, was fed, and then released back onto the streets (supposedly it was a stray to begin with.)
I'd like to know the facts before I waste time getting outraged.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you.
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