Loki

[Pan]

I did a search on this jaunty fellow.. but came up with nothing! Be still my heart!

I was wondering if anyone else follows Loki like I do? He has come to me in a few dreams, and slips out through my personality more often than late. He's fiery, but oddly caring toward me.

So.. had anyone else had experiences with this loveliest of the Norse Gods? ;)

[tainted echoes]

for some reason, when i read the name loki i think of lokenwald and seigfreid...

[Happydog]

http://loki.ragnarokr.com/pipindex.htm

Personally, I think one would have to be quite brave to have Loki as their patron deity.

[Wicce]

Hah...I love Loki...he's got spirit in him. Of course...I'm always drawn to the people who are totally not right for me...hehe.

[Mithrea]

Loki, the search function might not be working still. Try again after mol has had a chance to fix it all up ;)

[Pan]

I'll be sure to try again. ;)

I guess one has to be brave (insane) to work with Loki.. but he's claimed me, he has! :D

How do you imagine him to look?

[Storm]

Gorgeous blond Scandinavian. Ever heard of Gary Busey..or his son, Jake. Or the guy who played him on Xena... Hubba hubba.

[Happydog]

In my mind I will always see him the way he was drawn in the "Thor" comics from the 1960s...

[Wicce]

I see him as tall, rather thin, but muscular too, and oddly enough, not blonde. Dark brown hair, but blue eyes. And stubble on his chin :D

[Mnemosyne]

I agree with you, Wicce. In writings, Loki is supposedly really attractive- tall and muscular.

MM, Loki Panwit. :wave: Interesting name! Have you found any more info on Loki? I like this jovial god; however, I think that his wily ways might exasperate me after a while. lol. Why do you and Loki work well together? Is he exciting and unpredictable?

[Pan]

I used to imagine him to appear like what most of you said.. tall, defined muscles, but kinda slender. Short, fiery-red hair and red or blue eyes. Very pale skin, too, and no facial hair. A pretty man, too, since he's very charming and attractive in the myths.

But then.. he came to me in a dream. He had knee-length periwinkle-cornflower hair.. very shiny and thick, flowing like water. His eyes were a golden-yellow. He was still slender with defined muscles, though, and a wide smile with perfect teeth.

My name came from Loki and Pan. They're the same God, just different names (to me). They both have wit, so I stuck that on the end. :) There's the story of my name. :p

I don't really know why Loki and I work so well together. I'm an Air element, and he is, too, though he's got fire in him as well. I've always been drawn to the tricksters (Pan was the first God I ever chose), and I guess he's so unlike me.

In school I was the nerdy quiet type.. always reading a book 6 inches thick. I never caused trouble or anything like that. I guess he just appealed to me because I thought he would bring out the rebel in me. And he does!

He's rather wily and unpredictable. He's unusually caring toward me a lot, but sometimes he'll rear back with a scary dream for me to mull over. (I've had 2 such dreams that I recall) But I guess that's to keep up his image.

Loki has a special place in my heart.. and each time I tell someone that, I can always feel someone hugging me from behind. 8O

Thanks, all, for replying! I love to hear all of your opinions about this guy. :smooch:

[Pan]

I forgot to add... "All Star" by Smashmouth is Loki's token song. Especially the lyric I borrowed for my signature. ;)

[Wicce]

That is interesting...Pan and Loki do act a lot alike, I could see how you could combine them. But, Pan had the flanks and horns of a goat, hehe, and cloven hooves...Loki definitely sounds more attractive :)

[Pan]

I think of it as different faces for different places. Rather like Pan would've been out of place in the Norse Pantheon and Loki in the Greek. To me..

Loki = Pan = Horned One (Celtic)

It's rather like Apollo and the Norse God who drives the sun chariot. The Norse one has a beard.. Apollo doesn't. Different cultures with different themes. :)

But Loki is less flowery than Pan, I guess the Greeks didn't want death as part of his pranks. :p But, yeah, Loki claimed me and I'm all for it! :D

[Pan]

I was reading a book that stated Loki would bring about the Ragnarok. Well.. it's not entirely Loki's fault. (know me to stick up for him)

Loki did something really bad.. yeah.. but the Gods just shunned him.. cast him out. There was a party of some sort and Loki wasn't invited. So he forced his way in. Loki was captured and was shackled. A snake was put above him to drip venom on him. Loki's wife, however, holds a dish under him to catch the poison, but when she goes to empty the dish.. it hits Loki.

So Loki will break free and lead the Giants against the Gods, according to myth. But it's not entirely Loki's fault. Loki's the trickster God and was thus only doing his job. ;) So.. the others kinda helped bring about the Ragnarok.

Just a bit of mindless rambling that isn't meant to raise hackles or split hairs. I root for the tricksters. :p

[Storm]

Originally posted by Loki Panwit


Just a bit of mindless rambling that isn't meant to raise hackles or split hairs. I root for the tricksters. :p [/B]

And I love someone I would equate with Loki. Against all my better judgement, I love him. Unconditionally, I love him. Against my will, I love him. I would die for him a million times. These tricksters, they get under your skin. But what would life be without them. Boring. I say, I am up to the task. Here, here. Root for the trickster.

[Eeluna]

I've always been fascinated about Loki and a bit scared too. I think some of the mythology about Him was lost and some was equated with the Christian Devil that shouldn't have been. Tricksters are extremely important. Just look at all the wonderful gifts Loki gave to the Gods, and anyone who can inspire the kind of loyalty that Loki does in Sigyn can't be all bad.

[Happydog]

There may indeed be a lot missing from Loki's lore. I just tend to walk carefully around trickster gods in general.

I had a friend who was not too smart about some things, and without any experience or preparation, invoked Legba. He woke up the next day with bruises all over, not remembering any of what he had done. His wife informed him that he had been completely nuts, crashed a party, drunk immense amounts of liquor, acted like an ass, and ended up throwing himself down a flight of stairs, which explained why he was covered in bruises and felt so rotten. He remembered absolutely none of it. He remembered nothing after his attempt to invoke Legba.

I took that lesson to heart, and since then do not tamper with trickster gods myself. Maybe this makes me a wuss.

Of course if the God himself contacts you, that's far different from attempting to contact them, and means there is probably a different relationship than otherwise. I just tend to be extra careful around trickster deities.

[Pan]

Legba.. Voudoun deity? Ee... I worked with the Voudoun once.. and only once. I didn't much click with them.

I was never really careful around Loki. Never saw any reason to be. I'm fiercely loyal to him as well as my own husband. I would fight anyone who would call him evil. We all need tricksters to spice up life.. else where would we be? :p

In the book "Norse Magic", the author repeatedly called Loki "evil" and I just do not agree with that. Not at all. Not one flamin' whiff! Eh.. no pun intended! 8O

*roots for the trickster!* Ragnarok isn't entirely his fault! :D

And you know.. I think the closest smilie to Loki would be this one: :bigredgri

I usually tend to be more careful around the "king/queen" deities.. like Odin, Zeus, etc. I just feel like I need to be formal around them, but with Loki.. I let it all hang out! 8O

Loki just releases something inside me that I didn't know was there...

[Armitage]

I think he's decided to pop up in my life as well. Too many coincidences (or there really are no coincidences ^_^) for it not to be significant. First, he shows up on cartoons I'm watching. Second, I start misspelling things online, in chat, and the typos are his name. Third, I start feeling *very* wolfy while walking home last night.
I think I'll go rent a nice, dark comedy in his name. ^_^

[Wicce]

Loki isn't evil! Of course, we all have our evil sides...

But we all need pranks and things to spice up our life, we just need to learn to take it all in good fun and laugh a little!

I will stand by Loki too, he is much misunderstood and underestimated :)

[tainted echoes]

there are tales in england, i know ive heard of them either from reading or grandparents (probably both) about horned ones, more of a celtic thing than anything. so..reading the past post, is anyone in england that knows about these tales..i couldnt tell you much really. somewhere off of liverpool, small towns or something.

[Mnemosyne]

What exactly are you asking, Tainted Echoes? Are you saying that there are tales of horned gods/creatures...etc in the Celtic pantheon?

Wow, I've learned so much about Loki after reading all these posts. I completely understand, Loki Panwit, what you mean about having to be formal around supreme deities such as Zeus or Odin. Also, interesting choice of name. When I first read Panwit, I thought that you were trying to say "all wit." After all, "pan" means "all" in Greek. However, you and other members have shown how closely related Pan and Loki can be. Both can be a bit cheeky.

[tainted echoes]

Loki = Pan = Horned One (Celtic)

quoted: loki panwit.

if i'm not confused, then my question here is, are there tales of horned ones in england...?

an example (and i'll use germany) is lokenwald/seigfried (just one example) or...nessie..(although i believe in that one so i cant consider it just a "tale")

[Happydog]

//an example (and i'll use germany) is lokenwald/seigfried (just one example) or...nessie..(although i believe in that one so i cant consider it just a "tale")//

OK, wha!? huh?!

Nessie is the Loch Ness Monster. Siegfried is the hero of the Nibelungenlied. I don't know anything about either one of them being horned!

As far as Celtic "horned ones," there is a horned god in Celtic mythology. He goes by a lot of names but generally gets called Cernunnos, or some variant thereof.

So, I must admit: I am still confused about what you are asking.

[Mnemosyne]

Of course, you're not confused, Tainted Echoes. I was just wondering if you have a specific question about horned Celtic creatures. Well, in the Celtic pantheon, the god Cernunnos is potrayed with horns. Also, Puck has horns. You are probably thinking about Puck. He is mischievous and associated with nature. He reminds me a great deal of Pan.

[Pan]

I didn't know that Pan meant "all" in Greek. Well, I remember reading it but forgot all about that. :D

Loki has really impacted my life. Be it scary dreams or even seeing Pan lying on a school bus in a yellow rain slicker.. he's always been there.

I can't really imagine life without him, now. When I look back on the past months with Loki, and when I had worked with him for the first time.. I realise just how much fun I had. While back in HS I never did anything wrong and I always wanted to fit in.

If I could go back and do it over, I think I'd try to be more like Loki.. individual, fiery, and his own person.

I think Loki's helped me shed my skin. Burning it away with his fiery love and blowing the remnants off with his breath.

I know that Loki can do some pranks that hurt people... but it's what he was created to do. :)

[Mnemosyne]

Yeah, "pan" means "all" in Greek. That's why we have words like "panacea" and "pantheon."

That's great that you are developing characterisitcs such as being a stronger individual. It sounds like Loki really has impacted your life.

I was just wondering how the god Loki could be so much fun. I know that he is a trickster god, so maybe he does some silly things to you. I didn't know that a person could have so much fun while working with a deity. Is the fun balanced off with another emotion though. I ask because you state that Loki has given you scary dreams.

[Pan]

I would retaliate with how could he *not* be so much fun? ;) I believe that Loki has to keep up certain appearances.. like everyone sees him as a mean, cold-hearted trickster who will do anything for a laugh. Sometimes I think that he gave me those dreams so I wouldn't believe him to be a soft, squashy armchar-type God. 8O

Loki is.. so unpredictable.. and I plan on talking to him soon through a meditative state. I feel it's about time that I did talk to him. :) I can always ask him myself why he gave me those dreams.

To a lot of people, Loki is very dangerous and should be avoided. Sure, he's dangerous, but so are all other Gods and Goddesses. He shouldn't be avoided because of that. Of course, he shouldn't be worked with lightly, either. You have to be serious when you start working with Loki. If you just play around with him then ignore him.. he'll getcha!

[tainted echoes]

i'm not asking if either is horned.

i'm not asking about horned celtic creatures (i've studied them personally.)

different countries, towns, villages, all have legends correct? or "tales" passed down from generation to generation. right?

[Happydog]

Originally posted by tainted echoes
i'm not asking if either is horned.

i'm not asking about horned celtic creatures (i've studied them personally.)

different countries, towns, villages, all have legends correct? or "tales" passed down from generation to generation. right?

So....what *are* you asking?

Different places have different legends, that's true enough. Which legends are you asking about?

[Mnemosyne]

Happydog, I think that Tainted Echoes was asking about horned animals in Britain. Perhaps she was thinking about Cernunnos and Puck. Is this correct, Tainted Echoes? Those are the only gods/creatures that I can think of at the moment.

[Pan]

Being a Jester to the Gods is difficult... ^^;

Somewhere else, not here on MW, I was accused of not knowing Loki. Someone said that he doesn't know compassion...

What are your thoughts on this?

[Mnemosyne]

How can someone accuse you of not knowing Loki? That sounds ludicrous, since we all have different definitions for the word "know." We all have different experiences with the deities; thus, we all know our gods and goddesses in a different light.

In my opinion, the gods and goddesses have various emotions. Some deities whom you may consider nice may have a tough side. For example, you may think that Athena is a lovely goddess. But do you think that she is warm when she turns Arachne into a spider? Each god has a multitude of emotions. Loki is no different. Even though he is a trickster, I believe that Loki has compassion too. His wife, Sigyn, thought that Loki was wonderful, so she must have seen his compassion.

[Pan]

Good words. :) That's what I tried to tell these people, but they would have none of it. So I just ignored them until they went away.

Loki, to me, is the epitome of a God.. he has the fiery nature I love, the caring side that is rare and hard-to-see... Yet he is wise and ready to teach those who can seem to connect with him.

I guess I must be brave or crazy to work with someone like him. Each time he gives me a scary dream that I know comes from him, I just bounce back again.

I guess those could have been tests.. and I passed. :D

[Mnemosyne]

I can see why you work with Loki. Loki has two sides: caring and mischievous. When something is good happening in your life, you can look to Loki. On the other hand, if something scary is happening, such as nightmares, you can look to Loki as well. You know that Loki will bring you something to look forward to after a tough day, because that is his nature.

[Gwion]

I like Loki. I feel that he is kin in spirit to Coyote, Raven and especially Eris.

[Mnemosyne]

Originally posted by Gwion
I like Loki. I feel that he is kin in spirit to Coyote, Raven and especially Eris.

From what I know about him, Loki does seem to have a bit of these animals and Eris in him. Of all the gods, he definitely seems to be on a list for the most misunderstood. I found this interesting website on Loki.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/2395/

[Veli]

Loki Panwith,

You should really read the Eddas, especially if you find Loki to be your patron deity. He will bring about Ragnarok, and end Midgaard and all beings on it. He killed Baldr through deceit, not trickery, as you called it, and that is why he is imprisoned, and not cast away. I don't mean to sound rude, but I'm an Asatruar, I follow the norse gods, and hearing someone claim that Loki is a good natured fellow drives me up the wall. It's very similar to saying that Satan is merely mischevious. Sorry, just one of my biggest hot buttons!

[Phoenix Blue]

Veli, do you have a link to any more information available on Loki online? I've talked to a couple Asatruar about him. . . from which I've gleamed that he was born to the giants but befriended by the Gods.

Even the devil is on God's payroll, so maybe that's an apt analogy. I've been to a couple Sumbels, wherein it's explained that when someone hails Odin, someone else must hail Loki; and that it was Odin's wish that it be so.

Loki faces the choice, come Ragnarok, of fighting beside his friends, or fighting beside his family. There's no honor lost in fighting beside one's family, is there?

[Veli]

Originally posted by Phoenix_Blue
Veli, do you have a link to any more information available on Loki online? I've talked to a couple Asatruar about him. . . from which I've gleamed that he was born to the giants but befriended by the Gods.

Even the devil is on God's payroll, so maybe that's an apt analogy. I've been to a couple Sumbels, wherein it's explained that when someone hails Odin, someone else must hail Loki; and that it was Odin's wish that it be so.

Loki faces the choice, come Ragnarok, of fighting beside his friends, or fighting beside his family. There's no honor lost in fighting beside one's family, is there?
Actually, your information is exactly as I understand it. The best link I can give you is to www.northvegr.org/main.html They have many good resources, mostly literature. As to Ragnarok, I have never heard that he is to choose sides, this gives me some food for thought. Loki was very loved by the Alfather, that is true, although I've never seen Loki mentioned in any blot or ritual yet. I personnally perform blots to the gods/goddesses, but Loki is one I'm leery of dealing with.

[Veli]

If you go to the afforementioned site, go to Northern European studies, and you can find a lot of stuff, and you should be able to find the Eddas and sagas, which are the only remaining literature
dealing with my Gods.
P.S. I use "Gods" when I am speaking about male and female deities. I don't know if that's correct usage or not.

[Mnemosyne]

MM, Veli! Yeah, I sometimes use the word "gods" when mentioning gods and goddesses. People tend to use the masculine word when females and males are involved. For example, someone might say "hi guys" when ladies and men are around even though "guys" is a masculine word. When I am discussing gods and goddesses though, I usually make the point to use the word "goddesses" as well.

And for Loki. Spirituality is very subjective. What you may think, others may believe the complete opposite. Each to his or her own. I have heard people who think that Loki is evil, not one bit of compassion in him. Here are some sites that give you a different perspective of Loki.
http://www.thetroth.org/resources/ourtroth/loki.html

http://loki.ragnarokr.com/pipakwha.htm


http://loki.ragnarokr.com/piplycon.htm

Oh Loki is used in ritual. I found this site.

http://www.thorshof.org/zlokirit.htm

[Mythrel]

wow, shows how little I knew about Loki...this has been an exceptionally interesting thread...

gimme more info!!!

[Pan]

Hot button, eh? 8O Well.. button or not, I didn't mean to push it. It's just what I believe, y'know? My husband rather likes Odin, and I rather like Loki.. no matter what anyone else says. ;)

What I've learned about Loki has been in school and through few books outside of it. Most of what I've learned about Loki is through working with him. I also work with Odin from time to time, and he's not angry with me because I work with Loki.

Those websites were awesome, Mnem. I really enjoyed them. :D Too many people have disagreed with me about Loki, and that's their right to do so. As long as they see it's my right to love Loki like a father, brother, or whatever else he may be to me. I'm still not overly sure about my relationship with him.. all I know is there's some deep understanding, mutual trust, and love. I would trust my life to Loki as I would Demeter.. that may be crazy to someone else.. but it's perfectly fine for me. :)

I don't really know what else to say without sounding mean.. which I really do not want to do. But sometimes.. putting across your opinion comes off that way! So don't think I'm being spiteful during any of this. Asatruar are entitled to their beliefs just as much as I'm entitled to mine.

[Veli]

Point well taken! I am very much behind you on your path, and I'm happy when anyone tells me about their healthy relationship with a deity.
P.s. You didn't sound rude at all. I sure hope I didn't come off that way!

[Pan]

You didn't come off as rude. ;)

I understand how everyone can say Loki's evil, Loki's mean, Loki's heartless... but that's not what I see. It might be a little more difficult for others to grasp.. but Loki's been there for me when no other God was in sight. Not even Pan! (gasp!) That, or he was the only one I saw. I don't know.. but he was there for me.

Sure I've had some scary experiences with Loki.. but don't people have scary experiences with Morrigan? She's more frightening than Loki is (to me!) and far more intimidating. Why do you think I keep my distance? :blushake::shaker:

I mean, yeah.. I had a dream once where Loki scared the crap outta me via shoving me on some bed and saying something to the extent of "I'm your (insert # here) husband" while a meter went flying up by his head.. numbering in the thousands! I still don't know what that means! 8O It's been a good few months since I've had that dream and it still creeps me out and still alludes me with a meaning. Gets annoying and I glare a lot at Loki about it.. he still won't tell me. Just gets a creepy smile on his face. :blushake:

Periwinkle (light grey-blue) hair isn't what most see on this guy.. nor do most see cat-like yellow eyes. I've known people to see flame red hair and blue eyes like I used to.. then I saw him with this periwinkle hair to the floor.. flowing around him in waves.. and I knew it was him. Without a doubt I knew it was him.

And about that dream some lady with black skin (we're talkin' dark.. and I'm not trying to sound racist 8O) tried to save me.. but Loki threw her out the window! Just picked her up and tossed her out! I was creeped out and I think that's when I woke up after he turned back to me. Dont' ask me who that was, but I think it was a Goddess.. some have told me it could have been Kali.. I'm not sure. :(

I've had loving experiences with Loki where he would lay beside me in bed and console me as I worried about hubby on his way home from work.. Or when hubby was out to the store on a rainy night because I wanted something.. Loki would comfort me with a warm hug.. I've never gotten anything like that from another God. Angels, yes.. not Gods nor Goddesses.

So, like your hot button, it steams me when people think Loki isn't capable of anything but spite and evil... but that's their right to believe that. I can't and won't change that for them. They can think I worship some evil guy who's out to kill everyone and everything.. that's fine with me. If they ever ask me why I chose Loki.. I'll just tell 'em:

Because he chose me.

I didn't choose this guy.. he picked me. I was all happy with Pan until I felt compelled to go toward someone else. Pan was all smiles when he gave me a gentle shove into the unknown, letting me know he will always be with me. He knew that Loki was calling to me. I volunteered to Demeter in a dream that I would be her battery.. the Voice of Demeter.. and I give myself to her and to Loki. They are very much a part of me just as the Morrigan is a part of so many people here.

Wow.. that was long-winded of me. 8O Forgive me.. I've been sick and sleeping way too much.. and I've had too much caffiene to boot. I wouldn't mind continuing this convo about Loki.. as long as everyone else is willing, too! :D

And I've been asked who I would scream to for help if I were killed.. I would scream for Loki.. I know deep down I wouldn't renounce my beliefs and say "I'm sorry God for not believing in you". I'd just say "Loki, help me" if I felt I shouldn't die then. Else if I knew I was going to die ... I would say "Loki, I'm coming. Wait up!"

I'm wierd.. I know..

[Pan]

Old thread that I decided to pick up again. I'm just a sucker for that sort of thing.

I'm still working with Loki. Still as close to him as ever, if not closer. I've been through a lot, and he's been by my side through it all.

I re-read all of the replies on this thread at least three times over before deciding to pick it up again. I just enjoy talking about this god that no one else really seems to. 8O

Loki's appearance has been changing for me lately.. more to fit today's society. His hair is littered with tiny braids and he wears all leather. Skin-tight leather with belts and things all over him. He looks more cyberpunk than anything, to be honest, but it seems to fit him. It seems to make him appear more.. real? I guess I could use that term.

I'm mostly writing this for myself, but I wouldn't mind picking up this thread again. Hear all of you other folks' opinions and whatnot on everyone's most "love to hate" Nordic god.. and perhaps god from any sort of pantheon. ;)

[Happydog]

I think that if Loki is appearing to you and has chosen you and spoken to you in such a direct and loving manner, there are no worries.

I am rather fond of Kali, and She scares the daylights out of a lot of people. My experience with Her is a lot different from other people's, though; She seems to want to show me sides of Herself that are different from what other people see, and I take note of these things. I'm happy to say Jai Kali Ma! (victory to Kali!)

And of course the first time Goddess appeared to me it was at Samhain in her Dark Aspect, as the Death Goddess, and I felt nothing but unlimited love radiating from Her.

So I'm not inclined to "warn" you about your relationship with Loki. All deities have their dark and light faces. If Loki chooses you then who is anyone else to judge?

[Pan]

I remember in that dream that Loki threw Kali out the window. I'm thinking about finding some info about her and find out why he wouldn't let her help me.

In my time on this path, I've been confronted about my belief in Loki time and again. Each time, I feel like I've stated my piece or even my peace, and I feel happy when I walk away.

Most of those that have confronted me have been Asatru (Asatruar.. I don't know the right term to use). Even after I explain, oftentimes they can't understand my devotion to Loki. Fierce loyalty.

Loki can be seen as a dark god, I suppose.. I just don't understand why a lot of people are wary of him. 8O

[Happydog]

//I remember in that dream that Loki threw Kali out the window. I'm thinking about finding some info about her and find out why he wouldn't let her help me.//

Maybe you needed masculine energy in your life rather than feminine energy? It might also be that it wasn't Kali, but your mind representing some issue or feeling within you as Kali.

Kali herself is a complex goddess with a lot of facets. This is a terrific little summary of how a lot of people see Her. She is simultaneously terrifying and full of love; in her left hands she holds a sword and a severed head still dripping blood, and in her left hands she offers the signs for "fear not" and the gesture of giving blessings.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/kali.htm

I would not worry about what some Asatruar say about Loki. If he is kind to you and gives you truth, that is all that counts. Certainly in Norse mythology, we see that Loki had a wife who loved him dearly, and so he certainly must have shown her qualities that were lovely.

People are wary of dark gods and dark goddesses because quite often they represent things that we don't want to face about ourselves, or about the world. Another thing is that people are afraid of trickster gods like Loki because they fear he may trick them, not realizing that sometimes a trick is a lesson in itself.

I would say go with your heart. If your heart tells you that Loki is your patron then that is all that matters. The Asatruar are sincere people who are attempting to recreate the old religion, and Goddess bless them for it; but gods and goddesses do not act the way humans assume they should, for after all, they are individual beings with their own will also. Go with your heart.

[Pan]

Bump. :)

[Karma Chameleon]

I did a search on this jaunty fellow.. but came up with nothing! Be still my heart!

I was wondering if anyone else follows Loki like I do? He has come to me in a few dreams, and slips out through my personality more often than late. He's fiery, but oddly caring toward me.

So.. had anyone else had experiences with this loveliest of the Norse Gods? ;)

Heh, Loki is my favorite god and seems to be the one I connect with the best.

[Pan]

Good for you, Karma Chameleon!

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't venerate Loki in any way. :smile:

[Karma Chameleon]

Good for you, Karma Chameleon!

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't venerate Loki in any way. :smile:


Thank you. Yeah I have had some people tell me that I shouldn't even try dealing with Loki because he is dangerous/evil. But like I said, I do feel like I have a strong connection and I have done some magic rituals to honor Loki.

[Pan]

:smile: Have you read this thread? It's got all my thoughts on Loki. :lol:

[Karma Chameleon]

:smile: Have you read this thread? It's got all my thoughts on Loki. :lol:

Yeap. And it's a very good thread too I enjoyed reading it! It took me a while to find a thread about Loki on the search, had to go about 13 pages pages of various threads to find yours.

[Grey]

Well as for the out the window thing... perhaps she wanted to claim you, a god can be jealous and protective as anything else... or perhaps its that shes generally a rather bloodthirsty goddess. *shrug*
As for loki being dark... hes a god of chaos fire and magic... or course hes dark! Most any god dealing with chaos fire OR magic is considered dark, let alone with all three. And you must admit hes kind of a rogue... then theres him leading the legion of giants that will destroy the world. Those that are going to bring an end to the current order are rarely looked upon as a good. Though personally I think that its probly going to happen relatively soon, and I only hope to see what comes afterword. And lastly Im told that those who follow him are often driven insane... though that can be as good a thing as it is bad ;), and that is just hearsay.

[Karma Chameleon]

And lastly Im told that those who follow him are often driven insane... though that can be as good a thing as it is bad ;), and that is just hearsay.

And what if you're already insane to begin with? ;)

[Pan]

Ha. Good one. :p

Of course he's dark, but he was also created that way. All things are created with a purpose, and that's Loki's. Just like I believe the devil to be something of God's agent, tempting people to see if they're worthy to go before him. To me, Hell is the absence of God, and not a burning pit of eternal torment. :lol:

Loki ... will always have a special place in my heart. Forever. There's nothing I can do to change that. I'll think on him very fondly, with love and devotion in my heart that any person can feel for a god. He -is- my rock sometimes, and I lean on him even now... when I'm mixing Catholicism and whatnot (threads on that are elsewhere, not here).

KC! I'd love to hear about your experiences with Loki. :smile:

[Karma Chameleon]

KC! I'd love to hear about your experiences with Loki. :smile:


Well, the first time I did a ritual to honor Loki he decided to make his presence know by making some light bulbs flash on and then break. (And no, it wasn't a power surge because if it were it would have effected all the other electronics. And I had all the lights off at the time so lamps weren't even on at the time.)

I've also have had dreams about Loki an awful lot, which is why I believe I'm conected more so to him than any of the other gods.

[aluokaloo]

I know a little about Loki, the usual stories and such, I've always seen Loki in my mind as a short handsome darkhaired man with a charming personailty and a winning smile. While He has never called to me in any way, I do remind myself that without Loki there would be no magnificent Fenris wolf in my life, teaching, waiting, pushing, shoving, nipping, comforting and loving. I do understand what you mean by stepping carefully around the kingly and queenly deities, but then I've always stepped a bit carefully around my deities. Even Fenris and Diana.

[aluokaloo]

:tongueout
I remember in that dream that Loki threw Kali out the window. I'm thinking about finding some info about her and find out why he wouldn't let her help me.

In my time on this path, I've been confronted about my belief in Loki time and again. Each time, I feel like I've stated my piece or even my peace, and I feel happy when I walk away.

Most of those that have confronted me have been Asatru (Asatruar.. I don't know the right term to use). Even after I explain, oftentimes they can't understand my devotion to Loki. Fierce loyalty.

Loki can be seen as a dark god, I suppose.. I just don't understand why a lot of people are wary of him. 8O




Well Loki Panwit, you can't see why people are so wary of Loki, and others can't see how people could be wary of the Morrigan and Kali. :hehehe:

[Pan]

That was said to me before. :lol:

I'm still pretty wary about those two... 8O

[aluokaloo]

Perhaps its like Hell's Angels, they look intimidating and threatening, they are tough and hard, and from a distance people are wary of them but talk to people there close too and you might find quite a surpise!

[aluokaloo]

Actually, your information is exactly as I understand it. The best link I can give you is to www.northvegr.org/main.html They have many good resources, mostly literature. As to Ragnarok, I have never heard that he is to choose sides, this gives me some food for thought. Loki was very loved by the Alfather, that is true, although I've never seen Loki mentioned in any blot or ritual yet. I personnally perform blots to the gods/goddesses, but Loki is one I'm leery of dealing with.


Man! That site has so many disclaimers its not EVEN funny!

[Restless Spirit]

Well, the first time I did a ritual to honor Loki he decided to make his presence know by making some light bulbs flash on and then break. (And no, it wasn't a power surge because if it were it would have effected all the other electronics. And I had all the lights off at the time so lamps weren't even on at the time.)

I've also have had dreams about Loki an awful lot, which is why I believe I'm conected more so to him than any of the other gods.
With the impression I get from you about Loki and some of his characteristics, I think it's making me lean toward the Norse Pantheon. Especially after you gave me information on certain sites. :eyebrow: :bigredgri

[Rick]

Veli, do you have a link to any more information available on Loki online? I've talked to a couple Asatruar about him. . . from which I've gleamed that he was born to the giants but befriended by the Gods.

Even the devil is on God's payroll, so maybe that's an apt analogy. I've been to a couple Sumbels, wherein it's explained that when someone hails Odin, someone else must hail Loki; and that it was Odin's wish that it be so.

Loki faces the choice, come Ragnarok, of fighting beside his friends, or fighting beside his family. There's no honor lost in fighting beside one's family, is there?

[QUOTE=Veli]Actually, your information is exactly as I understand it. The best link I can give you is to www.northvegr.org/main.html They have many good resources, mostly literature. As to Ragnarok, I have never heard that he is to choose sides, this gives me some food for thought. Loki was very loved by the Alfather, that is true, although I've never seen Loki mentioned in any blot or ritual yet. I personnally perform blots to the gods/goddesses, but Loki is one I'm leery of dealing with.
According to the Eddas, Loki leads the Giants' invasion of Asgard in a ship made of dead men's nails. This, of course, after he seemed to kinda lose his mind & was then chained to a rock with a serpent dripping acidic venom on him constantly (you can sorta understand him feeling a little vengeful ;) ). The source of the Asatru tradition of offering a horn to Loki every time a horn is offered to Odin comes from Eddaic sources that are probably post-xtian. This is most likely attributable to the fact that, as the xtian influence spread, first Loki then Odin became somewhat synonomous with Satan in the eyes of the xtian reformers in their attempt to discredit the old religions. There's also no historical evidence that Loki was anything more than a sometimes annoying, often amusing trickster (and somewhat of a catalyst) before the xtian era.

One April Fool's Day, we did a blot to Loki... hehehe... a strange time, indeed...

There is also a Northern tradition of tossing a spear over your enemy's head, & giving him to Odin... I've been known to do this on occasion... but if they've really pissed me off, I give 'em to Loki... _travolta_

[Grey]

I know a little about Loki, the usual stories and such, I've always seen Loki in my mind as a short handsome darkhaired man with a charming personailty and a winning smile. While He has never called to me in any way, I do remind myself that without Loki there would be no magnificent Fenris wolf in my life, teaching, waiting, pushing, shoving, nipping, comforting and loving. I do understand what you mean by stepping carefully around the kingly and queenly deities, but then I've always stepped a bit carefully around my deities. Even Fenris and Diana.
Fenris... Child of loki... yet youve never dealt with his "old man"?

[aluokaloo]

Fenris... Child of loki... yet youve never dealt with his "old man"?


His old man never called to me. But Fenris has been with me for a loooooong time. :viking:

[aluokaloo]

or his mom or his sister or brother. Say, I wonder if anyone pays homage to the Jormungand?

[ottar742]

I did a search on this jaunty fellow.. but came up with nothing! Be still my heart!

I was wondering if anyone else follows Loki like I do? He has come to me in a few dreams, and slips out through my personality more often than late. He's fiery, but oddly caring toward me.

So.. had anyone else had experiences with this loveliest of the Norse Gods? ;)

Nonsense! Freyja is the loveliest of the Norse divinities. Loki maketh up nasty lies about her.

[Grey]

Well I always kind of had a crush on Skadi myself *gasps and claps his mouth shut* oops...

[Mjollnir]

or his mom or his sister or brother. Say, I wonder if anyone pays homage to the Jormungand?


Some of my kinsmen told me of a group they know of who has Jormungand, Fenris and Loki as their main deities.

[Mjollnir]

Man! That site has so many disclaimers its not EVEN funny!


Northvegr is probably the best site out there.

[Mjollnir]

According to the Eddas, Loki leads the Giants' invasion of Asgard in a ship made of dead men's nails. This, of course, after he seemed to kinda lose his mind & was then chained to a rock with a serpent dripping acidic venom on him constantly (you can sorta understand him feeling a little vengeful ;) ). The source of the Asatru tradition of offering a horn to Loki every time a horn is offered to Odin comes from Eddaic sources that are probably post-xtian. This is most likely attributable to the fact that, as the xtian influence spread, first Loki then Odin became somewhat synonomous with Satan in the eyes of the xtian reformers in their attempt to discredit the old religions. There's also no historical evidence that Loki was anything more than a sometimes annoying, often amusing trickster (and somewhat of a catalyst) before the xtian era.

One April Fool's Day, we did a blot to Loki... hehehe... a strange time, indeed...

There is also a Northern tradition of tossing a spear over your enemy's head, & giving him to Odin... I've been known to do this on occasion... but if they've really pissed me off, I give 'em to Loki... _travolta_


And also the fact that the Gods KNEW Loki's offspring would be their undoing, which is why Fenrir was eventually bound and Jormungand tossed into the sea. Hel was the only one that got the better end of the deal.

[Grey]

Its interesting to note that Hel is a much more... lively... diety than many of the wardens of hell are. Shes got a much larger penchant for mischeif and strong decisions, a real seat of power. In many mythos, though more commonly just in peoples interpretations of those mythos, the underworld god is like... a consolation prize with a few catch 22's attached. In reality its an enormous powerbase as all things, even gods, end up their eventually.

[Miss Edith]

Don't suppose anyone could recommend a good site that tells all the Loki-centric tales, could you?

[Windigo]

I have a confession to make:

I tend to connect with Loki in a rather uh... passionate sence :lol:

Yes, my fantasy is a God...

I am truly a freak. :fpoke:

[Karma Chameleon]

I have a confession to make:

I tend to connect with Loki in a rather uh... passionate sence :lol:

Yes, my fantasy is a God...

I am truly a freak. :fpoke:


:holycow: :woah: :bigblue:

[Miss Edith]

I have a confession to make:

I tend to connect with Loki in a rather uh... passionate sence :lol:

Yes, my fantasy is a God...

I am truly a freak. :fpoke:


Well, he is rather attractive :tongueout

[Pan]

If you check throughout this thread, there's lots of links to lots of websites.

Also, there are a lot more people with crushes on Gods and Goddesses than one might think. I believe there's even a thread about such a thing around here somewhere.

And it depends on the interpretation of Loki as to whether or not someone believes him attractive. To me, he's more of a friend and confidant than a lover-type. He's my brother, plain and simple. He's a facet of the diamond that I need the most, more often than not. Him and Pan. They're my bandaids.

[Miss Edith]

If you check throughout this thread, there's lots of links to lots of websites.


Thankyou. I don't suppose you know if a symbol that looks like this; )( is associated at all with Loki, do you?

[KellyP]

I don't suppose you know if a symbol that looks like this; )( is associated at all with Loki, do you?Excuse me for bumping in on the end of this thread. If the symbol looks similar to an X it may be the Gebo rune. There is an entire class on runes in the Circle of Teaching forum. You could find some possible interpretations there and look to see if any other runes might resemble what you are describing.

Kelly
geek druid wanna-be

[Grey]

Radho is the one that I see most often associated with Loki, it looks much like an R

[Rick]

If the symbol in question is indeed a Gebo tune, then I'm unaware of any connections it may have with Loki. The only runic association to Loki (of which I'm aware) is with Dagaz, and that may be a stretch.

[Tarenath]

You people are aware that Loki is a Trickster god. Therefore all you people who think that Loki is all nicey nicey and are being visited in your dreams by him could be being tricked maybe? Lokis element is fire, that means while he can provide warmth etc it can also burn you. It's chaotic. It can be creative and destructive. Loki is a very charismatic god, that doesn't mean he's nice, loving etc, that's just how he wants you to see him. Duh! trickster god!

As for the tall musclebound blond haired image? Sorry, if that's anyone that's Balder. Loki was described as short, dark haired... ever read D&D Deities and Demigods? The picture of Loki in that is fairly accurate. As for the cyberpunk image? sorry, but no, that's all I'm gonna say.

Loki is misunderstood eh? He got Balder, the most loved of the norse gods, he got Balder killed. Maybe it was accidental? maybe he didn't mean to get Balder killed? Maybe he was only just trying to prove a point?It still happened. He went into Aegir's hall, a hall where there isn't supposed to be any violence and deliberately insulted and provoked the gods, and this was just after Balders death and people wonder why he got banished and bound? but no, he's just misunderstood. Balders death aside, it's a little difficult to misunderstand some who goes around lying about and insulting people.

Oh yes, Loki is Bound, so is Fenris, they're not exactly here wandering around, not that Fenris was ever a deity of any kind

http://www.thorshof.org/zlokirit.htm Loki ritual? You are aware this is a pisstake yes? It has a story on that website about an Asgard version of changing rooms! "Bloody bunnies!" mean anything to anyone? Ride of the Valkyries on a Kazzoo?! LMAO!

And where do I get my information? I'm Norse, not just Asatru, Norse. I've read the Eddas, the Havemal and various books on mythology as well as researched around the internet (there's some very funny stuff about you know)

http://www.northvegr.org/ is very good website but then I don't like quoting websites since anyone can post anything that can seem believable when written the right way and it doesn't necessarily need referencing

For some strange reason I'm expecting a post in reply to this something along the lines of "Well the gods change with the times" or something. They're Gods.... we're mortals.. I really don't think they give a toss what a small group of us think, or that they're going to change to be something different just because we believe them to do so. Loki, in all available credited mythology is described as a 'trickster god' and sorry, that's always what he'll be.

[Lovehound]

Loki = Pan = Horned One (Celtic)

I would not say so. I would say the Norse deity more equivalent to Cernnunos or Pan would be Freyr. HE is the Lord of beasts and wild nature, just as His sister Freyja is the Lady of the wild things (among other attributes).

If you want information on Loki, read the lore. Read the myths, read the Eddas. Loki is sometimes described as being a skinny, wiry little redhead, and has been referred to as "Uncle Fox." Because of this, I have ever pictured Him as being about 5'5", with red hair and a red goatee, a long thin face reminiscent of a fox, and quick sparkly eyes that are probably blue.

He is a Jotun - that is, not of the Aesir, yet He is also Odin's blood brother. They swore a blood oath, so any study of Loki should also include study of Odin. Watching the relationship between those two may prove to be very enlightening....

[Lovehound]

As for the tall musclebound blond haired image? Sorry, if that's anyone that's Balder. Loki was described as short, dark haired... ever read D&D Deities and Demigods? The picture of Loki in that is fairly accurate.

OK this is something that just downright twists my tail so hard I can't even put it into words, but I'll try. To quote Tarenath's own response to the blond/blue eyed thing.."sorry, but no." ANYTHING Dungeons and Dragons is NOT THE PLACE to find accurate deity information! Cast it into the very Lake of Fire, because I serve everyone notice: It's just a GAME, people! Dungeons and Dragons rulebooks and whatnot are FICTION. It is NOT theology. It is NOT a Bible of any sort. THIS is why I have ALWAYS flatly refused to TOUCH anything resembling a roleplaying game AND most fiction/fantasy novels. Those are NOT the places to go for information on one's RELIGION. I have endeavored all my Pagan life to keep my perspectives on my religion CLEAR of these influences and I have stayed the hell AWAY from all RPGs and whatnot - I'm not a Pagan because I think I want to live in a big D&D game, or because I'm trying to escape the "real world" into some fantasy novel. No thanks. I'm a serious religious scholar, not a gamer.

I'm not here to play D&D. I'm not here to live in "The Mists of Avalon" or a Thor comic. I'm here, now, today, in America of 2004 with all its beauty and all its problems, and I'm going to walk through this modern world as a modern Norsewoman.

The Eddas are there. The myths are there. THAT is the sacred lore that shows how the Northern people understood and related to the Gods. READ THAT, NOT any D&D stuff, NOT the comic books, NOT some cheesy fiction/fantasy novel that has no basis in anything outside of the writer's imagination.


Loki is misunderstood eh? He got Balder, the most loved of the norse gods, he got Balder killed. Maybe it was accidental? maybe he didn't mean to get Balder killed? Maybe he was only just trying to prove a point?It still happened. He went into Aegir's hall, a hall where there isn't supposed to be any violence and deliberately insulted and provoked the gods, and this was just after Balders death and people wonder why he got banished and bound? but no, he's just misunderstood. Balders death aside, it's a little difficult to misunderstand some who goes around lying about and insulting people.

Yes, and if the Ragnarok hadn't happened, there wouldn't be the opportunity for the new world to rise from the ashes of the old. Loki has His place, and not all He did was bad/evil. Never, ever forget that He is the blood brother of Odin Allfather. Odin wouldn't have sworn blood brotherhood with someone unless He knew exactly what He was doing. Odin is ALSO considered a trickster God - take it from not only me, but the man I live with, who walks with Odin and has pledged his very life to Him at whatever moment Odin sees fit to take him. He marked himself with Odin's own valknut, the Knot of the Slain, as a way of saying to Odin, "Take me any time." He is a serious reconstructionist/religious scholar/historian. He does NOT play around with this.


And where do I get my information? I'm Norse, not just Asatru, Norse. I've read the Eddas, the Havemal and various books on mythology as well as researched around the internet

It's "Havamal." I'm hoping that was an innocent typo. I'm Norse too. I am of the Folk. I too walk the Northern Way. I too understand these things. And I will speak up about it. As I just did.

[Hangatyr 13]

I did a search on this jaunty fellow.. but came up with nothing! Be still my heart!

I was wondering if anyone else follows Loki like I do? He has come to me in a few dreams, and slips out through my personality more often than late. He's fiery, but oddly caring toward me.

So.. had anyone else had experiences with this loveliest of the Norse Gods? ;)I've had some "experiences" with Loki. He likes to play tricks on me, but sometimes, they work for the better. I invoked him to curse my adulterous wife one day. He "cursed" her with insanity instead of ending her life. After she was institutionalized, I found out just how sorry she was for what she had done to me. Also, she likes being crazy and hallucinating. I, personally, believe that schitzophrenia can be a blessing. I think it's possible that many of the seidhkonas and berserkrs of old may have had what we would classify today as "mental illness". I took her back, but we're still getting divorced and I demoted her to the rank of "girlfriend". She's just fine with that. I make a better boy friend than a husband and she makes a better girlfriend than a wife. When I told her about how I tried to curse her for cheating on me, I said "Only Loki could turn a curse into a blessing."

Recently, Loki taught me that I should carry a lighter with me whereever I go. I went through a whole pack of matches trying to light a candle out side and every one of them burned out before I could light the candle. I had to leave the candle where it was, drive to a convenience store (I was in a secluded place) and then drive back to finish the ritual. I'm not sure if it's going to work or not, but it was embarassing. I invoked him before I tried to light the candle and I know he was there. I'm not sure if he wanted to mess me up or not or why if he did. I guess I'll just wait around and see. Tricky devil.

For more on the compassionate side of Loki, there is a story about how he saved a child were the other gods failed. I'm not sure about it's origins. Evil? I'd say he's conflicted. I don't really believe in evil.

I'm not one of those people who say "All gods are one God." or "This god is the equivilant to this god." or "This Greek god and this Norse god are the same god." or whatever, but if I were to compare Loki with any other god, it would not be Pan or Cernunnos. It would be Prometheus. Prometheus is a Titan who befriended the Olympian gods. He lived for some time as an advisor to Zeus. Then he brought fire to humanity. For that, Zeus chained him to a rock were a vulture eats his liver every day and every day it grows back.

Fire was one of the first signs of human ingenuity. If it wasn't for fire, we'd have a hard time heating ourselves in the winter, and we couldn't even make metal tools let alone come up with all of the technology that we have today. Machine guns, ICBMs, Nuclear weapons... technology is going to be the death of us all. It will bring about the apocalypse. Maybe that's why Zeus was so angry at Prometheus.

Loki is a Jotun who became a blood-brother to Odin and traveled with Thor. Earliest references to Loki call him "god of the hearth-fire". When fire wood snaps and pops in a fire place, it was said to be Loki beating his children. His role as god of the hearth fire is off-set by the Jotun Logi, who represents wild fire. When Loki and Thor went to Jotunheim, they were challanged by Utgard-Loki to certain contests. Loki was hungry, so he said that he would challange anyone to an eating contest. Utgard-Loki matched him with Logi. Utgard-Loki filled a up a long trough with meat and put Loki and Logi at either side of it. Both Loki and Logi ate their way to the middle of the trough, it was seen that Loki had ate all of the meat, grisle, and fat, but left the bones, while Logi had ate everything on his side of the trough including the bones, which made him the winner. It was later revealed to Loki and Logi was wild fire and could not be controlled or stopped until it ran it's course. The trickster was tricked! The point of all of that was: Loki left the bones. He is controlled fire. Remember all that stuff about fire=technology? Loki also obtained many marvelous things for the gods. He got the dwarves to make Thor's hammer Mjolnir, Odin's spear Gungir, Odin's ring Draupnir, and Frey's ship Skidbladnir. Oh, and just like Prometheus is chained to a rock being tortured by a vulture, Loki is fettered to three rocks by his son's entrails and tormented by a snake until Ragnorok. Why? Because put a new and ingenius weapon in the hand of a blind god and made him kill a beloved member of his own familiy.

There are many stories in Norse mythology where Loki does something evil and then does his best to make up for it. He sets up Idun to be kidnapped by a Jotun, then gets her back. He shaves Sif's head, then gets the dwraves to make her new and better hair that's made of gold. There are more, but I don't need to banter on about that. Look at how dependent we have become on technology. Look at what Loki has done to us. The tools we use, the food we eat, the medications we take, they're all mass-produced in factories. How many people here know how to hunt and farm or build a house or go camping for an indefinite period of time? Not many. The technology that Loki gave us looked like a good idea at first, but he tricked us and now we are slaves to it. Loki's going to fix it. He will pilot the Nagalfar, the ship made of the nails of dead men, at Ragnarok. He will lead the Jotuns to battle against the Aesir. Almost everyone will die, then the ones who are left over will start over again. The cycle will begin anew.

[Mjollnir]

"There are many stories in Norse mythology where Loki does something evil and then does his best to make up for it."

And the precursor for Loki trying to do "right" by what he had done was the Gods wanting to hand him his ass if he didnt make it right.....................

[Windsmith]

I highly recommend Lewis Hyde's Trickster Makes this World to anyone interested in a more scholarly look at Loki. It's a fascinating exploration of the links between Trickster deities in many cultures and the creation of art throughout history. He devotes a sizeable portion of his attention to Loki, & it's a fascinating read.

One of the members of my circle has a very close relationship with Loki, so I've encountered him a few times when P. aspects him. I think he's wonderful; I have great respect for his shaking up of the established and expected. But you have to be very strong to develop that kind of personal relationship with him - can't be attached to the idea of your life maintaining its established patterns for long!

[Hangatyr 13]

"There are many stories in Norse mythology where Loki does something evil and then does his best to make up for it."

And the precursor for Loki trying to do "right" by what he had done was the Gods wanting to hand him his ass if he didnt make it right.....................True. He won't be coaxed like that at Ragnarok. He'll be motivated by vengence, but he serves Wyrd just the same.

I'm not one of those people who try to cast Loki as a "good guy", I just recognize his relevance in the scheme of things. I try my best to understand all of the gods and giants, but I like to share my drinks with the ones who dwell in Asgard.

[merlo]

I love loki, not sure if I have the right concept of who he is, isn't he the trickster? I'm a big fan of theatre of the absurd, not sure where I got loki as God of Jokes, been wanting to research, it's now on my list, I haven't seen anybody write about him.

[Rick]

I love loki, not sure if I have the right concept of who he is, isn't he the trickster? I'm a big fan of theatre of the absurd, not sure where I got loki as God of Jokes, been wanting to research, it's now on my list, I haven't seen anybody write about him.
Um... didja read this entire thread?

[merlo]

Uhhmmm, I'm a bit new to browsing websites, I have photosensative eyes, I can only stay on for an hour or so. I see very well in the dark though. I travel around this site (M/W) as best I can, I'm a bit of a professional traveler, Maybe that's why Loki caught my eye. So what does Loki mean to you???

[Fang of Loki]

I'll be sure to try again. ;)

I guess one has to be brave (insane) to work with Loki.. but he's claimed me, he has! :D

How do you imagine him to look?

Well, Loki is a trickster so he could appear to different people as different things. But the face I've always given him is the one I use as my avatar.