Does psychic/spiritual energy travel through cyberspace?

[Xander67]

I have been giving this a bit of thought. We spend a lot of time here and elswhere online so our energy is obviously evident. We send energy to people in need. We give readings, and we socialize.

Do you think that the energy actually travels through the wireing and to the other computers, or does it go to the Divine Mind, which is linked to all minds, or both..

The point to point of energy transference being mind A and mind B.

[mayu]

I think it goes straight to the mind, i often send my sis healing energies when we chat on yahoo via the webcam, however i do belive that psycic energy can distrupt computers as my cam nearly always breaks down when i am doing this.

[Xander67]

What I meant was, through what conduit? In the case when one person is not online.
The astral, or through cyberspace, or both...

Well I have seen where when mercury goes rx, it does affect electronic equipt, unless it is just a coincidence..

[mayu]

sorry i think its the rain, but i dont quite understand your question, all i know is that healing energy reaches whoever i send it to if they are online or not.

:weirdsmil

i think i am having a thick day.:giggle:

[Xander67]

what I was getting at was when we engage in Mystical, Magical, or other metaphysical activities useing our computers and when we release the energy and send it on its merry way to the intended recipient, does it traverse cyberspace or does it use the traditional conduit of the devine mind which is linked with all other minds.. or both?

[Raxeph]

Ah, this one was actually a question that I've pondered myself a few times. :)

The same could be asked of when you talk to someone on a phone, actually. I'd wager that it's the astral most likely, though I'm not entirely certain on that. Could one perform some sort of test to check whether it uses cyberspace, I wonder? :huh: I also wonder if cyberspace is an existance of it's own like the astral? Hmm...

[Lunacie]

It's all connected - or interconnected. I hate that Western science has tried to distinguish between mind, body and spirit to the point where they don't really see that it's all part of one package anymore. And that the package is actually composed of energy, as is the whole universe. Some energy is dense and forms the physical manifestation, other energy takes different forms.

The internet is just a tool that I use to focus my energy when I transmit it, which is helpful when I'm connecting to someone I don't know very well. When sending energy to someone I know well, I simply see them in my mind or hear their voice with my mind and the connection is there.

In the past, psychic healers and psychic readers would use letters or phone calls to make that connection with someone who lived a distance away, and many still use the phone today. Once the energy connection is established, having the phone go dead or the computer lose it's ISP would not break that connection - in my experience.

[bellamandu]

it wouldnt surprise me if it did travel through "cyberspace", as cyberspace is basically just a collection of electricity traveling through a "road" of computers, circuitboards, conductors, telephone lines, cable lines, etc etc.

so it is entirely plausible i suppose.

although my question would be, if this were the case, what happens to the energy if there is no one on the receiving end? (such as they are offline, the computer is turned off, etc)

[MonSno_LeeDra]

While I do think that a meeting place could develope an electrical charge from the presence of energy, ie this site for instance. I'm not sure the actual energy can be passed via the electrical lines.

I do believe that one may develope a mental image of a person and pass energy to that visual projection. On some levels even multiple visualizaitons of an individual may be created for the same person but the intent foucsed upon the image directs the energy to the desired person.

Where I do not know how the flow works is in the procees of enabling the person selected to receive the energy from the various mental images that have been created of the person by the "senders" of the energy to them.

Sort of a "what switch matrix allows person A to receive the energy intended for them from persons B through Z. For unless you know the person each of us creates a different mental image of the person we send energy to.

Once tagged for person A, I tend to think it just collects until such time as person A taps into the energy pool and drains it off. Yet that again is another facet of this that eludes me in operation.

[Lunacie]

If a water line breaks, you may leave a faucet open so you'll hear when you have water running again. Or when a transformer blows you may leave one light turned on so that you'll see when the electricity is reconnected.

Just so a person may leave a line open to energy if they have made a request, it may come in trickles and drips or there may be a flow of energy for several minutes. But if they haven't left the line open, then when they check for responses to their request or remember that they have asked, they can certainly open the line at that time - or tap into the energy that has become available.

Our mental "pictures" of people we know well may be different from the mental picture of them that someone else who knows them would would visualize. Again, that's just a tool. Doesn't make any difference if you use a screwdriver with a red handle and I use one with a blue handle, we can both do the same job - even if I'm right handed and you're left handed. :smileroll

The mental image is just a tool for connecting with the other person's energy - the energy flows between you and the energy actually has an intelligence, or maybe a collective consciousness - or a cosmic intelligence. That works like typing in an email addy and clicking the send button, "the cosmic internet" delivers the message where it's supposed to go.

At least, at this point in my life, this is my understanding of how it all works.
:smile:

[MonSno_LeeDra]

While I agree that the color of the screw driver does not mater the screwdriver only becomes effective once we have decided upon which tool to use. Until we reach that point it becomes a task of trial and error to see which tool best suits our desires I think.

I think sending energy to another is a lot like mailing a letter to them. If I just put the name on it, it may be possible they will get it but not definate. If I put a particial address (or image) then I have increaed the probability for the carrier now knows somewhat where to deliver it to.

For each additioanl piece I put to it the greater the chance of delivery to the correct person. Now the person who knows the exact info will get their energy sent direct to them with no delay the others will have to go through the postal system to get thier energy to arriive at the correct location.

Yet all of our "mail" will get placed in the same postal box regardless of how long it took to arrive at it. I think the difference is that if I know a letter is coming I look for it more frequently than if I do not.

For me I like to speed up the system so frequently ask for a picture of the person to visualize on to get it thier faster.

Now I do not know if I cleared it up or just dirtied the waters even more...

[Mesektet]

I have been giving this a bit of thought. We spend a lot of time here and elswhere online so our energy is obviously evident. We send energy to people in need. We give readings, and we socialize.

Do you think that the energy actually travels through the wireing and to the other computers, or does it go to the Divine Mind, which is linked to all minds, or both..

The point to point of energy transference being mind A and mind B.

If the net can have its own Patron Saint a la the RCC then energy travel and transference is completely up to possibility in my book. I mean, other cultures are still trying to wrap their mind around the net or "the wired" as they described it in Serial Experiments: Lain (btw people, find this anime and watch it, this is coming from someone that generally is unimpressed if not slightly miffed at the mounds of big-eyed small mouthed garbage that is filling up the shelves at my local retailer).
Regardless, its got current, its got sparks, its got potential.

[greenmoon]

I feel like psychic energy, vibes etc can definitely move through cyberspace. There are some sites that I completely avoid because of the negative energy there while others (like this one) completely attract me.

[Devashra]

Hi

I think spiritual Energy does not need Wires and stuff it goes directly to the Heart of the other Person, just as normaly to and directly without a physical tool. Thats the difference between sending energies while your at the computer fo instance in a forum or sendig energies to someone whos physically there with you , if the person is physically there with you then the Energie offen travels through Hand usw, but when you do send energys in the internet then it goes directly.

Bye Lhiya

[Solya]

Energy travels within interactions in any way possible. Words, quotes, smilies and everything on messageboards are just as valid in energy as smiles, words, looks and physical contact are in real life. Places online attract various people from all over the world... these people put energy into the things they write on the web... other people choose to read these written things and perhaps respond to them... and voila, an energy transfer is born.

I think it uses the conduit of the "universal mind". Cyberspace is mankind's creation and as such also a part of this "universal mind". Everything is energy. Why distinguish between the conduits when the effect is the same?

[Meadhbh]

I think it can. It is a little more difficult than say seeing a person face to face. But this has as much to do with distance as it does with not being face to face with a person. It just depends on what your doing as to how far the engery is going to travel.

[Xentor]

If it exists, it probably can go through cyberspace too. I happen to believe it does.

Energy exists. We know the internet exists out of a combination of energy, magnetism, and a whole bunch of hardware. There is no reason to believe energy does not flow from one end to the other.

Whether that energy can be directed with intent, and whether it listens to your will, is quite something else.

[FaeriPryncess]

Xander67: I have been giving this a bit of thought. We spend a lot of time here and elswhere online so our energy is obviously evident. We send energy to people in need. We give readings, and we socialize.

Do you think that the energy actually travels through the wireing and to the other computers, or does it go to the Divine Mind, which is linked to all minds, or both..

The point to point of energy transference being mind A and mind B.
I am just going to say this, it's a friendly remark, don't take it as anything else, but I am going to assert that I believe very little, I either know things, or theorize, or research them once I encounter them, but I believe only a small amount of my thoughts. (As belief stems from the lack of any previous evidence, and asks for an intellectual suspension of reason.)
Now: Energy travels everywhere. All energy does. The phenomena of morphogenic resonance is also documented, in some cases. So, your energy (or mine, or anyone's) is radiating out from it's source and into the Space-Time Continuum at this and all moments. Your energy is touching and affecting the Continuum, and changing it.
My question to you is where are you really going with the thought that the energy is traveling through cyberspace? Are you wondering if it is a real medium in which to work? Are you wondering whether or not you are affecting people through it? Are you planning on working through it? All of the above are true, and people are already doing just that.
What you may want to do, then, Xander67, is determine how and by what means. But perhaps you already have plans.

[Clair de la Lune]

I can't tell you what Xander is thinking about this unless I concentrate hard enough and go into trance...just kidding.

In my experience this is what has happened. I 'know' when I have new mail. I get anxious and can not always have the availability to turn the computer on to answer it, kind of like when I 'know' I am about to get a phone call and from whom.

The coolest example of 'knowing' I can tell you about, is when I was searching for 1 1/2 weeks for a car repair receipt recently that if I didn't find, it was going to cost me about $500 to get the car re-repaired. The place of service did not keep receipts past 1 week and I was still within the means of the 90 day labor and the 1 year parts guarantee if I could find it. My parents tore everything apart and I was too in my apartment since I had already done so in my car. I had it down to the wire and was frustrated beyond belief, so I posted to this MW site for help and went to a doctor's appointment. I knew I would have help arrive as an inspiration right away and it did! Within 3 hours of posting, I told my boyfriend who has seen me look for it all this time, and he said out of the blue, "well did you check that bag of papers I put in the filing cabinet that one day we were cleaning house for you to sort?" There it was. And there in the thread was my answer which I read afterwards too. I had already gotten the inspiration which was sent to him for me instead of having to actually read it (I think at the moment they sent it through the email). Cool, huh? :hahugh:

[Against The Tide]

Everything in the universe is connected to every other thing by strands/chords/whatever as parts of the web of power. We don't need to send energy through cyberspace to do that (though I imagine its possible, you are just bouncing your energies off another thing rather than sending it dirrect though).

The net is not always the means but it is a very powerful tool that helps people become aware of what/who else is out there and just how to reach them (find the right chord that leads to them).

We leave alot on cyberspace. Our pictures alone can help psivamps feed on us (not my wife though). Our words help others see and understand our aspirations and ideals. Even the 'masks' of avatars and screen names can reveal much about the nature of ourselves while we are trying to conceal who we are.

I've met a few lovers/friends online and have sent/recieved/shared energies, thoughts, feelings and even a few astral visits. Its not the internet doing it, but its cirtainly helped things along. I always use emailed photos for my online tarot readings if I can.

[Chaos Hawk]

Energy travels within interactions in any way possible. Words, quotes, smilies and everything on messageboards are just as valid in energy as smiles, words, looks and physical contact are in real life. Places online attract various people from all over the world... these people put energy into the things they write on the web... other people choose to read these written things and perhaps respond to them... and voila, an energy transfer is born.

I think it uses the conduit of the "universal mind". Cyberspace is mankind's creation and as such also a part of this "universal mind". Everything is energy. Why distinguish between the conduits when the effect is the same?

This is my thinking as well. I also think that when sending energy to a person, you have a feel for their energies. From the way that they post, the things they say, the patterns in how they type. If you have a feel for the persons energy it is a stronger link imo then a visual image of the person. Then you are sending it to the soul rather then to the body. Personally, I don't think that the internet has anything to do with it. Except that it's how you get to know each other and get a sense of their energies.

[David19]

Everything in the universe is connected to every other thing by strands/chords/whatever as parts of the web of power. We don't need to send energy through cyberspace to do that (though I imagine its possible, you are just bouncing your energies off another thing rather than sending it dirrect though).

The net is not always the means but it is a very powerful tool that helps people become aware of what/who else is out there and just how to reach them (find the right chord that leads to them).

We leave alot on cyberspace. Our pictures alone can help psivamps feed on us (not my wife though). Our words help others see and understand our aspirations and ideals. Even the 'masks' of avatars and screen names can reveal much about the nature of ourselves while we are trying to conceal who we are.

I've met a few lovers/friends online and have sent/recieved/shared energies, thoughts, feelings and even a few astral visits. Its not the internet doing it, but its cirtainly helped things along. I always use emailed photos for my online tarot readings if I can.

Good post, and good points, I, personally, think you can use cyberspace in magic, for some of the reasons you, and others, mentioned, and other reasons too.