Reading input

[aranarose]

Too close to the situation, too emotional. Normally wouldn't ask questions about how a person feels, what they are thinking, or what their intentions are, I would just ask them. But as of right now, I'm completely unable to get ahold of this person.

Question: Has he really decided not to see me anymore:
Spread: Celtic Cross.

Positional meanings are:

1 - The Situation - The core of the situation, what it's about.
2 - The Crossing - The problem with the situation.
3 - The Foundation - You're support in the situation.
4 - The Past - Events leading up to the situation.
5 - The Expectation - How you (I) expect the situation to turn out.
6 - The Coming - The next step. Either something you will do, or something that will happen.
7 - The Self - How I view myself in the situation.
8 - The Others - How I view others in the situation.
9 - The Hopes and Fears - The Hopes and Fears about the situation.
10 - The Outcome - If things continue as they are now, the final outcome of the situation.

1 - Ten of Swords - This one is obvious, and an instance of the Tarot being so spot on. I do feel very, very betrayed at the moment.

2 - Seven of Cups - The card of choices. I interpret this to mean that the betrayal is because of choices that have been made, or being faced with too many choices. Again, this does make sense.

3 - Five of Swords - What a horrid foundation! I suppose I could think of worse, but this card is loss, pain, suffering, regret. Yeah... I feel that.

4 - Eight of Cups - A turning a way, walking away from your path, leaving what you desire most is what led to this?

5 - The Hierophant - Tradition. I often see this as oppressive tradition, and see it with people who are trying to fit into other people's expectations of them. And in a way, I've been feeling like that's what my husband is trying to do. His family and her family expect him to leave me, settle down with her, and be a good dad and family man. No room for me, he has to take care of her, because loving and being with two women at once just isn't right.

6 - Four of Wands - First bit of confusion. This, to me, is THE marriage card. Over and over in readings, I see this card come up for people who are about to get married, or in the case of people already married, who are renewing their marriage in some way. This, right now, makes no sense to me.

7 - King of Pentacles - More confusion. I WISH I felt this solid and secure, I really do.

8 - Six of Swords - I see him leaving, which is literally depicted in this card.

9 - The Star - The card of Hope in the position of Hope. I hate Hope. :lol: I really do. And so really, this is the card of Hope in the position of Fear.

10 - Justice - Hmmm. Things will turn out exactly the way they are supposed to turn out.

Overall, I'm seeing... I don't know... I think I'm just seeing what I want to see, and that this is simply a temporary setback, him doing what he thinks he needs to do, and that he will change his mind and contact me again. But I don't know.

Any input would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

[LisaT4P]

4 - Eight of Cups - A turning a way, walking away from your path, leaving what you desire most is what led to this?This was the only thing that really jumped out at me. Combined with the knowledge I have of what path led you to this... you chose to change the situation when you invited her to be part of your marriage. You left the "straight & narrow" path that most follow (relates to the Hierophant). So, the choice to walk away from what you had before, and change it into something new... and more... is what led to this.

Honestly, the marriage may have broken up anyway, but it wouldn't be because of this other woman & their baby. *shrug* Who can know what WOULD have happened?

Sorry if that sounded harsh, it wasn't intended that way. :hugz:

[aranarose]

This was the only thing that really jumped out at me. Combined with the knowledge I have of what path led you to this... you chose to change the situation when you invited her to be part of your marriage. You left the "straight & narrow" path that most follow (relates to the Hierophant). So, the choice to walk away from what you had before, and change it into something new... and more... is what led to this.

Honestly, the marriage may have broken up anyway, but it wouldn't be because of this other woman & their baby. *shrug* Who can know what WOULD have happened?

Sorry if that sounded harsh, it wasn't intended that way. :hugz:

Interesting way of looking at that, thank you.

As I'm looking at the spread more and more, I was seeing that as him choosing to walk away from me at this point in time. Which, of course, the email he sent me Friday, and his not showing up for our regular Saturday visit yesterday, is a clear indication of. And that's what this reading was about. Is he really walking away forever? Or is this something that he feels forced to do? Or am I simply misunderstanding him? I have this niggling suspicion that it wasn't him that sent me the email, it was her, and that if/when he finds out, shit will be hitting the fan.

[Brightshores]

6 - Four of Wands - First bit of confusion. This, to me, is THE marriage card. Over and over in readings, I see this card come up for people who are about to get married, or in the case of people already married, who are renewing their marriage in some way. This, right now, makes no sense to me.
This is a really interesting card here, I agree... perhaps this might mean that he will marry her. Or it might mean that he will come back to your marriage. I often take this card to symbolize something bigger than marriage itself, though - more of building a home and a life that you are happy and comfortable with. Thinking outside the box, though, it might even mean that you will meet someone else to build a life with in the future... but in any case, I would take it to mean that you have what is needed to build a happy life regardless of your romantic situation.


9 - The Star - The card of Hope in the position of Hope. I hate Hope. :lol: I really do. And so really, this is the card of Hope in the position of Fear.

10 - Justice - Hmmm. Things will turn out exactly the way they are supposed to turn out.

I think these two cards are really positive here. The Star says that hope is what you fear... but hope may just be what you need to get you through the fear. Justice is a good sign as well. All the information you need to make a decision is here, and all will turn out well in the end. Even if that outcome isn't exactly what you expect it to be... trust in the hope the Universe provides, and trust that the Universe will treat you fairly in this matter.

:hugz: Hope things sort themselves out for you...

[aranarose]

He has to divorce me before he can marry her... :lol: And he has yet to even remotely come close to doing that! We'll see though. If he really has walked away from me, then I suspect the papers will be served to me very soon. And if not? I don't know.

[Brightshores]

He has to divorce me before he can marry her... :lol: And he has yet to even remotely come close to doing that! We'll see though. If he really has walked away from me, then I suspect the papers will be served to me very soon. And if not? I don't know.
Hmm.. maybe this leads to a whole new meaning of the 7 of Cups in this spread? Maybe he's having difficulty making choices here... the 7 of Cups could mean that he's putting off the necessary decisions as long as possible. That would seem to be an apt description of "the problem with the situation," as you describe the position. :)

(Plus, IMHO it's very characteristic of most men to try to put off the difficult decisions and try to have it all for as long as possible. :lol:)

[aranarose]

Hmm.. maybe this leads to a whole new meaning of the 7 of Cups in this spread? Maybe he's having difficulty making choices here... the 7 of Cups could mean that he's putting off the necessary decisions as long as possible. That would seem to be an apt description of "the problem with the situation," as you describe the position. :)

(Plus, IMHO it's very characteristic of most men to try to put off the difficult decisions and try to have it all for as long as possible. :lol:)

Yeah, he's good at trying to have it all. Funny thing is, I have no problem with that. I'm not the one who ever said he had to leave just because she got pregnant. In fact, long before she'd got pregnant, we had discussed what we'd do if she did, and I said we'd all raise the baby. That yes, our relationship would change, but it wouldn't have to end, and that we'd all adapt and figure it out as we went along.

He knows that. He knows that he could still have it all, if he really wants it, but that he'd have to be honest with her about still wanting it all. And she can be scary. She's also got his baby to blackmail him with. That's a powerful thing, especially when it's his first-born son.

[aranarose]

Well... that question was answered fairly quickly :lol: He emailed me from his workplace this morning. Still not happy with him, and he's got a ton of explaining to do, but he's at least got what seem to be valid excuses. We'll see.

[AugustoSilvanoCato]

Hello,

I have just a little imput on this, Do not stress over this you know what is going on .You just have to make you mind on what do you really want.
Bless be

[Xander67]

Interesting way of looking at that, thank you.

As I'm looking at the spread more and more, I was seeing that as him choosing to walk away from me at this point in time. Which, of course, the email he sent me Friday, and his not showing up for our regular Saturday visit yesterday, is a clear indication of. And that's what this reading was about. Is he really walking away forever? Or is this something that he feels forced to do? Or am I simply misunderstanding him? I have this niggling suspicion that it wasn't him that sent me the email, it was her, and that if/when he finds out, shit will be hitting the fan.

I think that this is one of those situations where you might want to opt for a more mundane source to answer your question. If you think there is a possibility that the email was not sent by him then you should ask him about it to clear up the missunderstandings. If shit hits the fan then oh well, she should have thought about that before she decided to send the email (if it was her).

You don't need the drama. And it is not fair to yourself to dwell in missunderstandings and missinterpreted signals like this... Get to the truth and go from there.

[Curious1]

The question you asked was a "Yes or No" question (Has he really decided...) but your intent as written to the forum seems to be asking what HIS feelings/thoughts and intentions were/are. This, IMHO, changes the reading from "you" to "him". (How does HE expect the situation to turn out....what are HIS hopes/fears, etc.)

[Xander67]

Well... that question was answered fairly quickly :lol: He emailed me from his workplace this morning. Still not happy with him, and he's got a ton of explaining to do, but he's at least got what seem to be valid excuses. We'll see.

ah, had I only looked at the date, and this post... :ack:

disreguard my other post lol... sorry.

[aranarose]

ah, had I only looked at the date, and this post... :ack:

disreguard my other post lol... sorry.

:lol: That's okay :D Yeah, old reading, issue already resolved :giggle: And more issues sprung up and resolved since then :smileroll But each one teaches me something new, pushes me a little further, and makes me a little stronger.

[1111]

Yep, what doesn't kill us......