Making my own

[Mr_Nude]

Hi, i'm new to this, directed by Mel, dunno what her username on here is so :P

i've currently started designing my own set of tarot and wondered if i could get some of your views on them

I started designing them without actually looking at any other decks, so that they were in my own unique style, therefore some of them i've been told are a bit unaccurate, but does that really matter?

not all are completed yet, but here they are:

http://www.ujross.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/whoknows2.html

http://www.ujross.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Tindex.html is the start of making my own site for them all to sit in properly too :D

[sweetbabe]

hey nude :D
Dont worry im sure people wil reply soon :D

I think the designs are good :P But then you know i do hehe :D

[Melysande]

**grins** Just so there's no confusion, I'm not the Mel he's referring to.

[Mr_Nude]

woo i'm getting replies that ignore my post asking for feedback :D

would be nice, not forcing anyone though :P

[Melysande]

To give you an answer to your actual questions, you've done a very creative job of them and I'm sure there are people out there who will like them a lot. I tend to prefer decks that are more detailed and more lifelike, but that's just me. :) As I said, there will be plenty of people who will love your style.

As to their accuracy, I'm of three minds. My first thought is that, yes, it does matter because there are some things that all decks have in common. However, my second thought is that most people are advised to throw away the description book anyway and use their own interpretation, so it wouldn't really matter if yours were "inaccurate." My third thought is that perhaps it really *does* matter after all because if you don't follow the traditionally accepted concepts put forth for each card, you could end up with an unbalanced deck.

Seeing as I'm not an expert in Tarot cards, I have no idea which thought is right.

[Mr_Nude]

the hanged man would appear to be the one that i get most questions about, because he's hanging by his neck instead of his foot, that was just a whoopsie though because i didn't know better :/ might change it to by his foot instead

[Silver Venus]

:D Thats a really fun and quirky deck youve got there!
I really like your strength and wheel cards. & think you have stuck to the tradional element in a unique way.
What are the minor arcana suits going to be and look like?
Id change the hanged man to his foot too, around his neck it turns the meaning of the card upside down..

If you havent already, I think it would be great for your ideas if you look through all the dicussion threads on each card we have had here, youll probally get some more ideas to ad to the cards and also get a good idea of who would like your deck, what audience your aiming at.

[Lavender]

Welcome, Mr Nude! :) I like your deck so far. The colours are bright and the images are fun. Not sure if I would be comfortable using a deck like that, though. But the fact that you made it for yourself would make the deck and the images more meaningful for you.

[tarotbear]

Sorry, gang!

Personally, your deck does not work for me; if it works for you, just ignore me and keep working.

I think it's the fact that the characters all look like 'Mr. Smileyface' on crystal meth or something. It seems like you're trying to be too cutesy to be taken seriously. (What's the character with the marijuana leaf supposed to be? The "HIGH" Priestess? Get real).

We all agree that creatively lies in different paths for each of us; perhaps if you designed it as a 'Divination' deck with a Tarot influence, people would stop trying to correct your 'errors'. Remember, tarot deals in archetypes, not stereotypes. The cards go beyond their mere titles i.e., The Devil is about greed, trying one's self to the wrong ideals, chains of our own making, etc. It is not just about a Halloween devil trying to stab us with a pitchfork.

Just my two cents.....

[Mnemosyne]

I think that it is really creative of you to begin making your own deck. I have been thinking of creating my own deck for some time; however, I think that I am lacking in the talent department. I'm not be pessimisstic, just realistic.

Personally, I like cards with more detail. I am with Tarot Bear; the cards are about archetypes. But each to his or her own. If they work for you, then, that is the most important.

[Mr_Nude]

Positive and negative feedback, just how i imagined, i'll probably not get them finished anyway as they were just something i started doing when i got bored , thanks anyway :D, plus tarot bear you take it way too seriously, for me, someone that isn't deeply into tarot, you can hardly expect to see a set designed with great detail and no humour or colour about it, after all where is the fun in design if you don't add your own twist to it?

[Annyka]

I REALLY like them... Can you make me a pack?

[tarotbear]

Hi - I see you had to re-edit your post to take a swipe at me...

Just remember- in your original post you asked people for their opinion. I gave you MY opinion. If you didn't want my opinion, you should not have asked for it. If you didn't LIKE my opinion, well, that's too damn bad.

It would be like you inviting me to come have dinner at your house and then criticizing me because I ate the food.

[Storm]

Originally posted by tarotbear

It would be like you inviting me to come have dinner at your house and then criticizing me because I ate the food.
With your mouth open.

You WERE a bit harsh.

[tarotbear]

Before this escalates into a 'flame war':

Remember, this is a public forum. I am/was being polite, which is something you will not find others on other forums doing.

As you may NOT have noticed, Mr. Nude took my negative criticism with a little hurt, but has moved on. Moving on is part of living. I, on the other hand, am entitled to think freely and express my opion openly, and no mater what you or anyone may think, do, say, or write, I am STILL entitled to feel or think what I do, and that does not change the fact that I DO NOT like Mr. Nude's attempt at a Tarot deck. When he publishes it, you will be free to buy as many copies of it as you wish...even purchase my copy, because I will not be buying one! From the way others on this forum are gushing over it, the non-sale of one deck to me will hardly be noticed by Mr. Nude, who freely admits he has no background in tarot and is designing this as some kind of a lark.

Let him design a hundred of them! Maybe I'll like the other 99 of them, but I don't like this one. When he asks for my opinion of them, I'll tell him what I think. If that opinion comes off a little harsh, well, no law says I have to write like Emily Post.

[Nina]

Mr-Nude - I like the colours, and the images are interesting. Does that mean I feel I could read with this deck? No, it doesn't have a depth of meaning to me at first look - but that doesn't mean that I don't admire you for attempting to make one.

Tarotbear - were you harsh? Hmmm.... it may have come across that way, but you explained why you weren't attracted to the deck. Constructive criticism, I feel, although it is always difficult for someone to accept criticism - that's human nature. However, perhaps you find it a little... off-putting that someone with no real knowledge of some of the nuances of the Tarot is attempting to make a deck as a 'lark'.

Anyway, all honest opinions should be respected on this board, even if it means that we get a little heated at times.

Nina

[tarotbear]

Thank you, Nina.

[Mr_Nude]

Tarot bear Tarot bear Tarot bear,

i did not mean to offend you and your criticism was taken on board, i can handle it and have, really wasn't meant to be an insulting reply, i just don't see how your sarcy little comments about high priestess yeah get real etc counted.

I agree they are not accurate, and for people that take a greater interest in tarot such as (i presume :) ) yourself then i can understand that yuo don't like them, i wasn't posting just so people would say yeah they are cool. Did not post on here to inflate any ego, just i thought the reply you gave was maybe a little over the top.

Sorry for any offense taken.

And erm... this isn't trying to be nasty anymore than the last post was.








hehe i edited this one too, but not any of the post above, just to add that it wasn't just for a lark, i take interest in tarot, just i haven't looked into it at any great depth so far, i wouldn't do it purely for a lark, i have tried to learn things about it, just my mind wanders and i don't always learn as much as i would like.

[tarotbear]

Cool - intellegent responses!

This is what a forum like this is supposed to be about.

Believe me, 'Flame wars' happen all over; if you ever go to the Pagan boards on AOHell, people SCREAM at each other for pages and pages and PAGES about if Witches dot their 'i' to the right or left because one way is Pagan and the other is Witch (O.K.-- a little overdone but you get the point). We can discuss and disagree without getting vitrolic; however, the written word is without nuance, so what one person sees as humorous, another may take as highly sarcastic or offensive.

{ I dot my 'i' with a little circle-so what does that make me?}

On one of the other forums, someone actually started a 'complaint' because I use the little smiley symbol with the sunglasses- and that forum's version had a little cigarette with a smoke trail. They actually wanted the web master to remove it because my frequent use of it was an indication of drug use and/or promoting smoking among the masses.

Can you believe there was an entire thread devoted to whether the smiley face should smoke or not? Whatever would they have done with the smileys we have here who shoot uzis or smash things with hammers?

My point here you can be offended by anything, but that doesn't necessarily make it wrong and you right. There is a difference between disagreeing and demanding that your way is the only way.

[Annyka]

I would just like to say how impressed I am with the maturity of the people in this online community.

There have been many communities and mailing lists that I have unsubscribed from due soley to the fact of petty immature responses that turn into full blown arguements. It is reduculous and the whole point is then lost.

I found it very interesting listening to the discussion/debate here and I enjoyed reading it and can understand both points of view.

Thanks eveyone for making this an intellegent, interesting place to be

Annyka

[Mnemosyne]

Originally posted by Annyka

Thanks eveyone for making this an intellegent, interesting place to be

Annyka

I agree, Annyka. So many people here offer such great feedback and help us through life's journey.
Good luck with your deck!

[Silver Venus]

but now I realise I dont need too
You guys are great! Im so pleased we can be honest, share all our open opinions and still get on like a house on fire! (excuse the pun)

[Mr_Nude]

bet you didn't except maturity(edited: intelligent responses) from someone named Mr Nude

wait a minute...that's immature suggesting such thing wouldn't be mature, no wait, erm, yeah okay, sorry this last post is just my final piece on this threat :)

[sweetbabe]

lol nice ending there nude :P

[Nina]

Mr_Nude - put it this way - we won't forget your name! And I think you have put in a lot of effort on your deck - I wouldn't know where to start to make my own. I hope you continue your adventures in Tarot, it can get addictive, believe me!