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Lajmar
June 10th, 2008, 11:57 AM
This was inspired by another forum board I am a part of and I think it could prove interesting to see all the responses.Crossroads seem to play a large part in multiple spiritual and magical traditions, being a place that is within, yet between places. Some say that older crossroads line up at ley line intersections. Legba is seen as the old man at the crossroads as is Eshu. Then we have the infamous pact made with the devil at the crossroads in southern lore, in order to secure some talent or item. I personally use physical crossroads to leave offerings or tricks that need to be left away from my home seeing the in-between nature creating a spiritual vortex of sorts. Symbolic crossroads tend to be used as a focal point in my home based work. How do crossroads play a role in your path or workings? What are your takes on them?

aranarose
June 10th, 2008, 12:01 PM
I see crossroads as the place where things are carried away in multiple directions, and so use them as a place to dispose of what is left from some of the more difficult tricks that I work.

I think, though, that the crossroads has lost a lot of siginificance in modern society because there are now so many roads, and thus so many crossroads. Mythology about crossroads developed in times when roads weren't nearly as common. My house is one house down from the corner, a crossroads. I live in the city, so there are crossroads everywhere I look.

Artiste-LiLi
June 10th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I agree that most lore regarding crossroads was developed in a time when they were not nearly as common as they are in the modern day and therefore I do not see all crossroads as being "powerful places". I do see "old" crossroads as being places where the "veil between" is much thinner and they are places of "power". If I am in need of a crossroads for a specific working, I go out into the country and look for "old" roads. Sometimes it may just be the crossroads of a small town in which there is only one main intersection.....other times it is the crossing of two dirt roads (one of my favorites)....or (and this is my absolute favorite) I use a place or two I know of back in the woods...one is a couple of old no longer used roads that lead to an old (no longer existing) schoolhouse and an old (also no longer existing) church. This specific crossroads is way back out in the woods and is barely discernable now because of the forest/nature taking back over. The other is a place in the woods where 2 wildlife (deer mainly, but other animals use it as well) paths/trails cross each other near a freshwater spring.

You speak of Papa Legba and Eshu.......now pulling from a different path..there is also Hecate, the old woman at the crossroads.

For me, crossroads are a place where the "veil between" is thinner and we are closer to the "spirit" side and I believe there is inherent power in those places. I use them when I feel the need to be closer to spirit and raw power, I use them when I feel that a working/trick/conjure needs that "extra oomph". Or when I need to place a working away from my home/a working specifically calls to be placed at such. For home based work that doesn't need that "big power", I use various materials to create the illusion of a crossroad within my home or in the big parking lot next door to my apartment. <grin> I soooooo can not WAIT to get moved back out into the country...it makes my life soooo much easier! lol

aranarose
June 10th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Even though I'm in the city, I have a bit of an advantage :) 3 block to my east is a river. 3 blocks to my west is an old cemetery. There's also a park that has old roads running through it, including an old crossroads, 3 blocks to my north.

Lajmar
June 10th, 2008, 02:51 PM
I completely agree on the age of the crossroads, and those seem to be what writers such as Valiente and Fortune were referring to when they talked about being near areas where ley lines intersect. The most potent ones I have come across have been in rural areas, where they tend to be mainly dirt. Like many things, we have a surplus of newer roads that don't seem to pack quite the same punch. Lili brought up Hecate who is also a favorite crossroads power of mine to work with, although I've always seen her as the maiden with torches.

BlackLili
June 10th, 2008, 03:41 PM
I love old crossroads as well myself, they are damn handy to have around, like old cemeteries. Too bad I have so few around me at this point. Everything's new and modern around here, and I have to drive way out into the country to find something older than 50 years.

I know that the lore hasn't been lost on the locals though. I spent most of my morning trying to find an old news article to link here - it was last year when some little girl decided to leave her newborn baby in the middle of an intersection and walk naked down the road about 3 miles 'til someone stopped her. She was supposed to have been quoted as saying she left the baby there for the Devil to find. (Sorry about the lack of reference, I think it was actually buried because it didn't reflect well on the local surrounding town.) The girl turned out to be completely tweaked out on meth (surprise, surprise!) but what the incident itself illustrates is that still-prominent image in the public consciousness about crossroads, intersections, and accessing that intangible "something more." (And sometimes "something bad.")

Anyone here had any experiences at a crossroads that they'd like to share?

Come on... /bats eyelashes
I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours. :smoke:

Artiste-LiLi
June 10th, 2008, 03:53 PM
I completely agree on the age of the crossroads, and those seem to be what writers such as Valiente and Fortune were referring to when they talked about being near areas where ley lines intersect. The most potent ones I have come across have been in rural areas, where they tend to be mainly dirt. Like many things, we have a surplus of newer roads that don't seem to pack quite the same punch. Lili brought up Hecate who is also a favorite crossroads power of mine to work with, although I've always seen her as the maiden with torches.

:mmm: You and many others see her as such................yet I, who am into my "Crone" years, see her more as a tall, straight backed, strong, silver-haired, purple robed beauty carrying a lantern.:smile:

Artiste-LiLi
June 10th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I love old crossroads as well myself, they are damn handy to have around, like old cemeteries. Too bad I have so few around me at this point. Everything's new and modern around here, and I have to drive way out into the country to find something older than 50 years.

I know that the lore hasn't been lost on the locals though. I spent most of my morning trying to find an old news article to link here - it was last year when some little girl decided to leave her newborn baby in the middle of an intersection and walk naked down the road about 3 miles 'til someone stopped her. She was supposed to have been quoted as saying she left the baby there for the Devil to find. (Sorry about the lack of reference, I think it was actually buried because it didn't reflect well on the local surrounding town.) The girl turned out to be completely tweaked out on meth (surprise, surprise!) but what the incident itself illustrates is that still-prominent image in the public consciousness about crossroads, intersections, and accessing that intangible "something more." (And sometimes "something bad.")

Anyone here had any experiences at a crossroads that they'd like to share?

Come on... /bats eyelashes
I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours. :smoke:

In time me dear, in time.............for now though I must tend to me chops and other dinner items.:hahugh:

Lajmar
June 10th, 2008, 04:10 PM
I love old crossroads as well myself, they are damn handy to have around, like old cemeteries. Too bad I have so few around me at this point. Everything's new and modern around here, and I have to drive way out into the country to find something older than 50 years.

I know that the lore hasn't been lost on the locals though. I spent most of my morning trying to find an old news article to link here - it was last year when some little girl decided to leave her newborn baby in the middle of an intersection and walk naked down the road about 3 miles 'til someone stopped her. She was supposed to have been quoted as saying she left the baby there for the Devil to find. (Sorry about the lack of reference, I think it was actually buried because it didn't reflect well on the local surrounding town.) The girl turned out to be completely tweaked out on meth (surprise, surprise!) but what the incident itself illustrates is that still-prominent image in the public consciousness about crossroads, intersections, and accessing that intangible "something more." (And sometimes "something bad.")

Anyone here had any experiences at a crossroads that they'd like to share?

Come on... /bats eyelashes
I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours. :smoke:

Nothing too exciting, although i've been tempted to spend some nights in hopes that Old Scratch would grace me with his presence lol:boing:

Lajmar
June 10th, 2008, 04:11 PM
:mmm: You and many others see her as such................yet I, who am into my "Crone" years, see her more as a tall, straight backed, strong, silver-haired, purple robed beauty carrying a lantern.:smile:

Ooooh very nice imagery!:bigredgri

DixieWitch
June 10th, 2008, 04:45 PM
I once was a follower of Hekate. I left her an offering at the crossroads. Which was kinda hard for me because I live in the middle of the city!!

But alas, I have no stories to tell.

Teresa
June 10th, 2008, 11:08 PM
IMO some crossroads are more powerful than others. However, hoodoo is about being practical. One usually uses what is at hand. When I have special workings that require extra juice I will seek out the more powerful crossroads. For other things what is close by will do just fine.

plumedsnake
June 11th, 2008, 08:36 AM
Lili brought up Hecate who is also a favorite crossroads power of mine to work with, although I've always seen her as the maiden with torches.

In Orisha traditions a distinction is made between the four branch crossroad (Orita merin) and the three branch crossroads (Orita meta). Eshu owns or is given offerings at the four road junction while the Iyami osoronga (the witches) are given offerings where the 3 paths meet. I guess that Hecate can be paralleled to Iyami.

Artiste-LiLi
June 11th, 2008, 09:45 AM
In Orisha traditions a distinction is made between the four branch crossroad (Orita merin) and the three branch crossroads (Orita meta). Eshu owns or is given offerings at the four road junction while the Iyami osoronga (the witches) are given offerings where the 3 paths meet. I guess that Hecate can be paralleled to Iyami.

I suppose it would depend upon who you are speaking with........some say all crossroads for Hecate..........in my readings about her, I have always interrpreted the descriptions of her crossroads as being the "3 path" kind and I have always pictured her standing at a 3 path crossroads in my mind's eye as well. So, in my little ol' 2 cents worth...yes, I would more closely associate her with Iyami.

Ochareo!
June 14th, 2008, 11:02 AM
In Orisha traditions a distinction is made between the four branch crossroad (Orita merin) and the three branch crossroads (Orita meta). Eshu owns or is given offerings at the four road junction while the Iyami osoronga (the witches) are given offerings where the 3 paths meet. I guess that Hecate can be paralleled to Iyami.

The crossroads is own completly by Eleggua. Ebbos can be done there and wounders can occur. Its awsome. Also, ebbos are usually deposited at a 4 corner for eleggua.

Iyami's recieve offerings where the 3 paths meet? I was acually taught that you leave offering to them at or near a tree. Can teach me more about this 3 path plumsnake?

Ochareo!

plumedsnake
June 15th, 2008, 09:56 AM
The crossroads is own completly by Eleggua. Ebbos can be done there and wounders can occur. Its awsome. Also, ebbos are usually deposited at a 4 corner for eleggua.

Iyami's recieve offerings where the 3 paths meet? I was acually taught that you leave offering to them at or near a tree. Can teach me more about this 3 path plumsnake?

Ochareo!

The Tree where offerings are made to Iyami is the Iroko tree. This is where the Iyami hold their meetings and some say live. The Ifa Odu Oyeku Okanran (oyeku pelesekon) tells the story:

Before Iroko came into the world he went for divination from Oyeku pelesekan. He was told that he would be travelling in the company of his 2 sisters. He made all the ebos that were prescribed and started his journey. His two sisters were Iyami and the mother of mundane humanity. The yoruba say that 'Aye pe meji'. That means that the created world is composed of two parts. There is the physical part and then there is the world of the Aje (the witches). These two sisters represent the two sides of creation.
When they arrived in the world Iroko decided to go and live away from the town deep in the woods. the mother of humans decided to live in the town amongst people. Iyami too decided to live amongst people. Only Iroko their senior brother lived far away. The sisters gave birth to children. the Mother of mundane humanity gave birth to so many children but Iyami at that time had only 1 child.
It transpired that one day the mother of humans wanted to go to the market, oja ejigbomekun, so she begged her sister Iyami to please take care of her children while she was away. Iyami obliged and indeed took such good care of the children until their mother came back.
It wasn't long afterwards that Iyami too wanted to go to the market. She called on her sister to please return the favour and take care of her only child. She too obliged. While Iyami was away her nieces and nephews started troubling their mother. 'Mom, we're hungry.' 'what do you want to eat', she asked. 'We'd love a bird', they replied. 'No problem'. She then prepared a chicken for them. They wouldn't eat the chicken but instead insisted that they wanted another kind of bird this time casting furtive glances at the child of Iyami. By and by she couldn't restrain her kids any longer and they pounced on Iyami's only child and devoured him.

You see, the problems that humans have with Iyami is actually our fault. We started the schism. On her return Iyami couldn't believe what had happened. Her only Child! After she had taken such good care of her sister's children. In her fury she fled from the home she shared with her sister and went to live with her brother Iroko. She explained what had happened. Iroko agreed that from now on she had a right to kill and destroy anything that humanity did or had. The backlash was terrible. people were dying everywhere, sickness and unfulfillment in all human objectives.
When humans couldn't bear it anymore they ran to Orunmila to help them sort our a solution. They were advised to prepare certain ebos and etutus to be taken to the Iroko tree. When they reached the Iroko they prayed and begged Iroko to please intercede as the elder brother and to appease Iyami. Iroko accepted the ebo and since then has been a mediator in the affairs between the humans and the iyami. That is why offerings to iyami are left at the Iroko.

As regards the Orita meta offerings we have to turn to Eji Ogbe:

Owo l'enu Oluwo
Ashe l'enu Ifa
money from the mouth of the Oluwo (one's godfather)
Ashe from the mouth of Ifa
Nje be ni babalawo temi n s'enu rere ki Ifa
Thus do babalawo raise their blessed voices to chant Ifa :

"Esinsin Agbonrin ni i kola L'ehin tara tara tara"
The special Deer has distinctive unique markings on it's back
A difa fun Ori
Declared Ifa for Ori
Eyi ti awon Iyami Aje won fi ojojumon ba iwa re je.
He who the Iyami Aje daily disrupted his well being.
Won ni o sakale Ebo ni sise
He was prescribed Ebo

The Story: Ori was a person that always had great plans and schemes but whenever he attempted something it would always go awry. Confused as to why he decided to enquire from Orunmila. when the divination was cast Eji Ogbe came out. Orunmila told him that it was the Iyami that were at the root of his problem. First He was to make ebo to Eshu because eshu, obviously, would be indispensable to finding a solution. Secondly he was to make etutu to be taken to Orita meta, the 3 path crossroads. The Etutu comprised of a single Akara Eyo. Akara is bean cake, but this one is specially prepared by the babalawo and it has a special ileke (beads) in it. Also a small mirror, and a black plate. I can't go into the details of how these things are prepared for two reasons. First I don't know, I haven't been taught yet and it is a special preparation that only babalawos know the secret. And secondly we are on the internet so even if I did know I wouldn't be posting it. The preparation is called Ipese which is done specially for the Iyami.

Now it is a known fact that once Eshu accepts a sacrifice he will go to all lengths to assure the well being of the offerer. After he accepted Ori's offering he stuck close to Ori. Ori now carried the Ipese made for the Iyami to the 3 path junction. Eshu was following close behind. After Ori made the offering and returned home Eshu hid behind some bushes and watched the offering.
As it happened it wasn't long before the Iyami passed through. They had just come from a long meeting and they hadn't had a thing to eat all day. They were famished and so it was with much relief that they spied the offering at the crossroads. Without any ceremony or prolonged ado they plunged straight in and started to munch the Akara. As they were munching Eshu was pronouncing some incantations that was making the single akara bean bun to multiply. They ate to their satisfaction and even started blessing the person who left the food there. 'May his affairs prosper', they pronounced. Just as they were rubbing their bellies and wiping their mouths Eshu suddenly jumped out at them from the bushes. 'What's going on here, who ate the offering that was here'. Taken aback they responded,' we did'. 'You thieves', Eshu screamed, 'Was it yours, who told you you could it it.' 'Oh we didn't mean any harm we were just hungry, we have even been blessing the guy who left it'. Eshu looked at them, 'So where are you heading to now'. With a gleam in their eyes they said they were going to Ori's home with the express purpose of messing up whatever he had planned for today. 'We are going to frustrate the hell out of him, haha'.
'Right', Eshu responded nodding his head in knowingly, 'you guys sure know how to show gratitude. Do you now realise that it is Ori that has left this offering here for you. You don't realise that. But you are happy to eat it, right. Then then go on messing up business. Take a look at yourselves, here, look in the mirror he has provided for you. See how satisfied you look. Why would you do this to someone as considerate as Ori?"
"Wow! We didn't know that Ori was this considerate. We didn't know that he loved and respected us like this. Ori is a wise guy, if only we'd realised before."
"In any case", Eshu continued, " you have to make your case before Ori since you've enjoyed his hospitality. Let's go".
So the Iyami all trooped behind Eshu to Ori home. On arriving at Ori's home they straight away embraced Ori and greeted him using one of his appellations:
"Nje Ori Pele O, Omo a s'akara mo ileke".
Peace be unto Ori, the child that makes Akara mixed with beads.
Ori too responded: "Eyin Iyami Aje e pele, Alagogo Esuru Eleyin'ju Ojingini"
Peace be on the Iyami . . .
Since then the Iyami have been in support of Ori and they operate together in harmony.

Ori was so please with the results
o l'oun a tun ebo ru
He said he wanted to do the ebo all over again
A a kin tun ebo ru
we don't repeat ebos
Babalawo la ma nyin
But we praise the babalawo
Babalawo a ma yin ifa
And the babalawo praises Ifa
Ifa ma yin Olodumare
And Ifa praises Olodumare
Nje be ni babalawo temi n s'enu rere ki Ifa
Thus did my babalawos raise their blessed voices to chant Ifa:

"Esinsin Agbonrin ni i kola L'ehin tara tara tara"
The special Deer has distinctive unique markings on it's back
A difa fun Ori
Declared Ifa for Ori
Eyi ti awon Iyami Aje won fi ojojumon ba iwa re je.
He who the Iyami Aje daily disrupted his well being.
Won ni o sakale Ebo ni sise
Ebos were prescribed
O gb'ebo orubo, O gbe ru, O te ru, O gbo kara ebo o ha
He complied

Nje Ori pele O , omo a s'akara mo ileke
Eyin Iyami Aje e pele, Alagog esuru, Eleyin'ju ojingini.
Blessings of peace to Ori
Blessings of peace to Iyami

Teresa
June 15th, 2008, 08:11 PM
The Tree where offerings are made to Iyami is the Iroko tree. This is where the Iyami hold their meetings and some say live. The Ifa Odu Oyeku Okanran (oyeku pelesekon) tells the story:

Before Iroko came into the world he went for divination from Oyeku pelesekan. He was told that he would be travelling in the company of his 2 sisters. He made all the ebos that were prescribed and started his journey. His two sisters were Iyami and the mother of mundane humanity. The yoruba say that 'Aye pe meji'. That means that the created world is composed of two parts. There is the physical part and then there is the world of the Aje (the witches). These two sisters represent the two sides of creation.
When they arrived in the world Iroko decided to go and live away from the town deep in the woods. the mother of humans decided to live in the town amongst people. Iyami too decided to live amongst people. Only Iroko their senior brother lived far away. The sisters gave birth to children. the Mother of mundane humanity gave birth to so many children but Iyami at that time had only 1 child.
It transpired that one day the mother of humans wanted to go to the market, oja ejigbomekun, so she begged her sister Iyami to please take care of her children while she was away. Iyami obliged and indeed took such good care of the children until their mother came back.
It wasn't long afterwards that Iyami too wanted to go to the market. She called on her sister to please return the favour and take care of her only child. She too obliged. While Iyami was away her nieces and nephews started troubling their mother. 'Mom, we're hungry.' 'what do you want to eat', she asked. 'We'd love a bird', they replied. 'No problem'. She then prepared a chicken for them. They wouldn't eat the chicken but instead insisted that they wanted another kind of bird this time casting furtive glances at the child of Iyami. By and by she couldn't restrain her kids any longer and they pounced on Iyami's only child and devoured him.

You see, the problems that humans have with Iyami is actually our fault. We started the schism. On her return Iyami couldn't believe what had happened. Her only Child! After she had taken such good care of her sister's children. In her fury she fled from the home she shared with her sister and went to live with her brother Iroko. She explained what had happened. Iroko agreed that from now on she had a right to kill and destroy anything that humanity did or had. The backlash was terrible. people were dying everywhere, sickness and unfulfillment in all human objectives.
When humans couldn't bear it anymore they ran to Orunmila to help them sort our a solution. They were advised to prepare certain ebos and etutus to be taken to the Iroko tree. When they reached the Iroko they prayed and begged Iroko to please intercede as the elder brother and to appease Iyami. Iroko accepted the ebo and since then has been a mediator in the affairs between the humans and the iyami. That is why offerings to iyami are left at the Iroko.

As regards the Orita meta offerings we have to turn to Eji Ogbe:

Owo l'enu Oluwo
Ashe l'enu Ifa
money from the mouth of the Oluwo (one's godfather)
Ashe from the mouth of Ifa
Nje be ni babalawo temi n s'enu rere ki Ifa
Thus do babalawo raise their blessed voices to chant Ifa :

"Esinsin Agbonrin ni i kola L'ehin tara tara tara"
The special Deer has distinctive unique markings on it's back
A difa fun Ori
Declared Ifa for Ori
Eyi ti awon Iyami Aje won fi ojojumon ba iwa re je.
He who the Iyami Aje daily disrupted his well being.
Won ni o sakale Ebo ni sise
He was prescribed Ebo

The Story: Ori was a person that always had great plans and schemes but whenever he attempted something it would always go awry. Confused as to why he decided to enquire from Orunmila. when the divination was cast Eji Ogbe came out. Orunmila told him that it was the Iyami that were at the root of his problem. First He was to make ebo to Eshu because eshu, obviously, would be indispensable to finding a solution. Secondly he was to make etutu to be taken to Orita meta, the 3 path crossroads. The Etutu comprised of a single Akara Eyo. Akara is bean cake, but this one is specially prepared by the babalawo and it has a special ileke (beads) in it. Also a small mirror, and a black plate. I can't go into the details of how these things are prepared for two reasons. First I don't know, I haven't been taught yet and it is a special preparation that only babalawos know the secret. And secondly we are on the internet so even if I did know I wouldn't be posting it. The preparation is called Ipese which is done specially for the Iyami.

Now it is a known fact that once Eshu accepts a sacrifice he will go to all lengths to assure the well being of the offerer. After he accepted Ori's offering he stuck close to Ori. Ori now carried the Ipese made for the Iyami to the 3 path junction. Eshu was following close behind. After Ori made the offering and returned home Eshu hid behind some bushes and watched the offering.
As it happened it wasn't long before the Iyami passed through. They had just come from a long meeting and they hadn't had a thing to eat all day. They were famished and so it was with much relief that they spied the offering at the crossroads. Without any ceremony or prolonged ado they plunged straight in and started to munch the Akara. As they were munching Eshu was pronouncing some incantations that was making the single akara bean bun to multiply. They ate to their satisfaction and even started blessing the person who left the food there. 'May his affairs prosper', they pronounced. Just as they were rubbing their bellies and wiping their mouths Eshu suddenly jumped out at them from the bushes. 'What's going on here, who ate the offering that was here'. Taken aback they responded,' we did'. 'You thieves', Eshu screamed, 'Was it yours, who told you you could it it.' 'Oh we didn't mean any harm we were just hungry, we have even been blessing the guy who left it'. Eshu looked at them, 'So where are you heading to now'. With a gleam in their eyes they said they were going to Ori's home with the express purpose of messing up whatever he had planned for today. 'We are going to frustrate the hell out of him, haha'.
'Right', Eshu responded nodding his head in knowingly, 'you guys sure know how to show gratitude. Do you now realise that it is Ori that has left this offering here for you. You don't realise that. But you are happy to eat it, right. Then then go on messing up business. Take a look at yourselves, here, look in the mirror he has provided for you. See how satisfied you look. Why would you do this to someone as considerate as Ori?"
"Wow! We didn't know that Ori was this considerate. We didn't know that he loved and respected us like this. Ori is a wise guy, if only we'd realised before."
"In any case", Eshu continued, " you have to make your case before Ori since you've enjoyed his hospitality. Let's go".
So the Iyami all trooped behind Eshu to Ori home. On arriving at Ori's home they straight away embraced Ori and greeted him using one of his appellations:
"Nje Ori Pele O, Omo a s'akara mo ileke".
Peace be unto Ori, the child that makes Akara mixed with beads.
Ori too responded: "Eyin Iyami Aje e pele, Alagogo Esuru Eleyin'ju Ojingini"
Peace be on the Iyami . . .
Since then the Iyami have been in support of Ori and they operate together in harmony.

Ori was so please with the results
o l'oun a tun ebo ru
He said he wanted to do the ebo all over again
A a kin tun ebo ru
we don't repeat ebos
Babalawo la ma nyin
But we praise the babalawo
Babalawo a ma yin ifa
And the babalawo praises Ifa
Ifa ma yin Olodumare
And Ifa praises Olodumare
Nje be ni babalawo temi n s'enu rere ki Ifa
Thus did my babalawos raise their blessed voices to chant Ifa:

"Esinsin Agbonrin ni i kola L'ehin tara tara tara"
The special Deer has distinctive unique markings on it's back
A difa fun Ori
Declared Ifa for Ori
Eyi ti awon Iyami Aje won fi ojojumon ba iwa re je.
He who the Iyami Aje daily disrupted his well being.
Won ni o sakale Ebo ni sise
Ebos were prescribed
O gb'ebo orubo, O gbe ru, O te ru, O gbo kara ebo o ha
He complied

Nje Ori pele O , omo a s'akara mo ileke
Eyin Iyami Aje e pele, Alagog esuru, Eleyin'ju ojingini.
Blessings of peace to Ori
Blessings of peace to Iyami

Thanks for sharing these. I am listening to similar stories from one of my hubby's workers. He is from the Congo. We have been talking about similarities and differences so that I may understand things better. Ifa has not been changed like Voodoo has by the people that come into contact with it, it is more pure in form. Listening to the stories though makes me see things much clearer.

We are planning to go to Africa and visit next year for a couple of weeks. I am really looking forward to it.

Lajmar
June 16th, 2008, 11:11 AM
We are planning to go to Africa and visit next year for a couple of weeks. I am really looking forward to it.

I'm jealous ...lol:T

Artiste-LiLi
June 16th, 2008, 05:12 PM
I'm jealous ...lol:T

MEEEEEEEEEE TOO!:wah:

but happy for you that you get to go!!!!!:T

Teresa
June 16th, 2008, 10:54 PM
This man that works for my hubby has 2 idols coming here for me from back home. He says that they are very powerful. I am all excited about receiving these. He is a wonderful man and I love the stories he tells me much like the one plumedsnake shared with us here.

Its refreshing to have someone that can answer my questions from his perspective. I am accustomed to the American version of Voodoo but to be able to hear about the place it originates from and how they practice etc, words can not describe the feelings I have. I am in awe.

I have always loved to learn and it is like the more I learn the more I want to experience first hand; To be able to be there and watch them.

My Hubby doesn't practice Voodoo but he sees how much this means to me and he is so kind to make a way for me to become more than I am today. He joined me in lighting candles on my ancestor altar yesterday. He told me I love them too, they helped me find you. I wish to pay my respects as well. I am thankful that he is in my life.

~Elise~
June 17th, 2008, 12:16 AM
My Hubby doesn't practice Voodoo but he sees how much this means to me and he is so kind to make a way for me to become more than I am today. He joined me in lighting candles on my ancestor altar yesterday. He told me I love them too, they helped me find you. I wish to pay my respects as well. I am thankful that he is in my life.


ohhhhhh--that's so sweet. Can't wait to meet him in person.

Rick and I took each others ancestors as our own as part of our handfasting. (Rick says he got the better end of the deal) That's why we also have a joint ancestor altar.

Elise