Vampires

[PegUnicorn]

I love vampires... I love the myth and everything about them. This is kindda funny but they say I was born one. Who knows maybe I was? But anyway the same people that I practice paganism with are the same people who bascly show me the way of the vampire. Or more into vampires then I normally was. To me vampires are beutiful. I learned so much. I wonder who else are into vampires?

[AradiaSupernova]

I am, most definately, into vampires:) I've studied the folklore and such that surround them since I was little. I never understood why I was drawn to them, or still am for that matter. :) I guess I'm lured in by the seductiveness of the whole thing. Immortality, vampires in and of themselves being (usually) sexy beings...you get the picture :) I think thats what truly draws ppl into learning vampire mythology and such...just how the whole thing pans out :) Glad to see another vampire enthusiast. LOL :)

[Flaire-FireStar]

You stole the words from me, Aradia. :lol:

I used to not really be into the whole vampire thing, but as of late, they've really become an interest of mine (Goddess knows how many books I've taken out of the library. :rolleyes: :D)

[MidnightSun]

I will just second what my sister said. I've loved the whole culture and folklore of vampires since I was about 7. I remember taking a book about vampires to Church once. hehehehe:D I still sometimes think it would be awesome to be one..lol :)

[Scarlettvixen]

I love some Vampire stories but not others lol
Dont like the ones where they do nothing but murder for the hell of it.

If you have ever read any Chlesea Quinn Yarbo
then you know the vampire stories i adore! lol

[MidnightSun]

I really enjoy Anne Rice's work. She's one of the best authors i've ever read. Also Christopher Pike's Last Vampire Series is one of the bests i've read as well :)

[AradiaSupernova]

here here :) I love those both of those series as well. I'm the vampire book person in our house when it comes to Anne Rice and all that :) LOL. I was hell to be around after we first saw Queen of the Damned cuz that was one of my favorite books in the vampire chronicles, and they totally messed it up. :rolleyes: Christopher Pike's Last Vampire series kicks butt. I read all of the books and I was sorry when the series ended. :(

[SerenityMoon]

mmm...lestat.......

[AradiaSupernova]

my sentiments exactally ;)

[PegUnicorn]

Vampires suduse their victumes and in case their teeth into the necks to get the lust of blood... Thats all they lust for... They merly love each other never anyone else... They feel only love for blood and sometimes the company of other vampires. Anne Rice's work is beutiful and pure genius... Just like Bram Stroker was in his time... Creating a horror so unimagable into a beutiful suducer. Kindda of interesting wouldn't you say?

[Azure]

I don't read Anne Rice anymore since she started butchering history - the fact the the crux of the Lasher series was based on Henry VIII's dissolution of the monestaries in Scotland - HELLO! - Henry was never king of Scotland, that happened in England. No tolerance for shoddy research.

I do enjoy Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's books very much. I'm also writing my own, the first part of which is set in 1930s Nebraska, and the second part which I'm working on now is set in 1790s Charleston.

[MidnightSun]

[quote]Vampires suduse their victumes and in case their teeth into the necks to get the lust of blood... Thats all they lust for... They merly love each other never anyone else... They feel only love for blood and sometimes the company of other vampires. Anne Rice's work is beutiful and pure genius... Just like Bram Stroker was in his time... Creating a horror so unimagable into a beutiful suducer. Kindda of interesting wouldn't you say?[quote/]

Not always entirely true. Some of them still keep close ties to the mortal world, even loving those of the living. They don't only lust after blood....after quite a while, some of them don't really even NEED it, and their desire for it goes down. I've never found vampires to be any sort of horror...but maybe thats just me :) It is interesting though. :)

[Twilight Garden]

The only vampires I believe in are not the ones of romantic myth. I believe in psychic vamps. Those that feed off of other people's energy. People frequently assume that I am into vampires because of my semi-goth appearance and my love for non-mainstream music, but I honestly find vampire stories a bore. :p

[AradiaSupernova]

yeah. Psychic Vampires are the unromantic type. heh Definately the ones you don't want to get mixed up with....though I wouldn't want to get mixed up with the other kind either :) lol. Not unless they promised I wasn't food. LOL

[MidnightSun]

mmm...lestat.......

Hehehe....I will second that :D

:heartthro :heartthro

[PegUnicorn]

Vampires were defently not beutiful and full of passion... They were killers and blood suckers... Demons of disgust and the undead. That was the beging of the myth then it evolved over time to what it is today.

[Armitage]

Anne Rice never got me. I like Poppy Z. and the Midnight Blue series. Great stuff, not quite for the squeamish though.

[Mocari]

I never knew you were so attracted by Vampyers..
If only I knew earlier..
Give me your adresses... !!

just kidding.. :D
I always liked Vampyers, they live at Night.. I love the Night.. I love everything with the word 'night', 'star', 'beam' or 'moon' in it :p
and I like the 'rendering your victim hopelessly lost in your mind' idea too :p
:eek: ow boy, sick thoughts, get them out get them out!!!! :eek:

[AradiaSupernova]

hm...well I disagree with the theory that they're just bloodsucking beings with no passion behind them. Even Bram Stoker's Dracula was a passionate being. Look at how he treated Mina. Hell...be became Dracula because of Elisabaetha's death. There's definately passion there.

[Morgandria]

Heh. Not into vampires, really. I'm much more interested in werewolves and other shapeshifters. Wonder why... ;)

-M.

[MzNeko]

With the big splash that Ann Rice's books made, sometimes some less well known works get lost in the background.

Barbara Hambly has two really good vampire books - Those Who Hunt the Night and its sequel, Traveling With the Dead. I don't know if she's written any more, but I sure hope so.

P.N. Elrod has a lot of vampire books, too. I particularly like the Vampire Files series, it's detective fiction taking place in the '20s, only the main character is, of course, a vampire. Pretty good stuff.

[Emaleth]

Oh yeah, vampires... I was really into them some 5 years ago. Me and my friend were just crazy about the Vampire Chronicles, we wrote fanfiction short stories, drew portraits, I even knew the movie dialogues by heart. But it was like an obsession, we couldn't talk about anything else, my parents got worried I joined some kind of sect:D . You know the devil and vampires aren't that far away from each other;) .

Now I'm not that crazy anymore, but the sentiment remained:) .

Blessed Be

[Azure]

Just to clarify, in Bram Stoker's book and play, Dracula became a vampire because he was a brutal killer in life - just like in the original legends from the Carpathians. There was no mention of his wife. That addition was made in Coppola's movie based on some pieces of the Romanian Dracula mythos.
In Romania, they regard Dracula as a folk hero, not a vampire - that's a Western idea based on Stoker's work.

If you look at Stoker's body of work, it's very reflective of late Victorian suspicions of women's sexuality - Dracula's wives seducing Harker and Mina and Lucy both easily falling prey to the seductions of the East (Eastern Europe = decadence as opposed to upright Western virtue) are a further example of how sexuality corrupts women as much as blood lust. You can see a better example of this in his novella "The Lair of the White Worm." You can find it in many British horror writers of the period - check out Algernon Blackwood for example.

When I played Lucy on stage a few years ago, we worked from the premise that Dracula couldn't create a perfect bride for himself - the women he turned inevitably became mad, unstable creatures, regardless of how he loved him, because his love wasn't love but obsession - thus explaining why Dracula shifted his his attentions to Mina after turning Lucy - and my vampire Lucy was whacked! (I got to eat "live" mice and jump off a staircase to attack Harker. It was really fun to play).

At any rate Stoker was also a professional theatre producer, and he may have created Dracula the character in the novel as a fictionla representation of the high-maintenance famous actor who he worked for.

Victorian vamps, who create models for (yuck) Rice and better modern writers, were redifined in terms of presenting a very fearful sexuality courtesy of Stoker and his fellows. It was reactionary in relation to the rise of the sufferage movement and non-traditional spirituality such as Theosophy and the Spiritualist movement, all of which were female dominated and which questioned the traditional role of women.

They in turn came from earlier threatening sexual models - Lord Byron inspired any number of vampire stories, including the celebrated novella "Vareny the Vampyr" in the early 19th century. Sheridan LeFanu's quasi-lesbian "Carmilla" in the 1850s, or his dark psychic vampire tale "Uncle Silas" are other good examinations of the dangerous sexual nature of the vampire.

Rice's vision didn't come from nowhere, nor did most contemporary vampire writers. The rise of the vampire as unearthly uncontrolledsexual being has it's roots all the way back in the rise of the Gothic novel in the late 18th century. (Why else would Louis and Lestat rise from that culture?). There's a good 200 + year history of hottie vampires out for a good time. The difference today is that we admire the vampire for that, rather than shun him/her as a threat to the values we want to enforce in society.

There's a lot more that could be said, but I just wanted to throw in some critical thought, in hopes it will send people off to read both good history of the vampire legends and some of the really good old stuff.

[MidnightSun]

I don't personally believe in the bloodsucking immortal vampires either, I just love the stories :) Psychic vampires however...completely different story. I know a few..lol :) I am a form of it, but I choose not to use it for obvious reasons.

I've always considered vampires to be passionate beings. I don't really know why.

I was also majorly into werewolves and things like that when I was younger..still am to an extent.

[Mithrea]

Originally posted by Azure
I don't read Anne Rice anymore since she started butchering history - the fact the the crux of the Lasher series was based on Henry VIII's dissolution of the monestaries in Scotland - HELLO! - Henry was never king of Scotland, that happened in England. No tolerance for shoddy research.


After I graduated from College, I read "Pandora" because I needed some light reading instead of the serious Literature I had been reading for the past four years. I swear Azure, I had to get out a red pen and start marking it up because it was so bad!

[Jazzmine]

I love vampires, but only the newer version of them.
I work nights and love the night.
The thought of being immortal is very alluring.
But alas, I am just mortal. And can only dream of such things.

[Azure]

LoL Mithrea!

The bad thing about scholarship is that it makes you critical of what you read and/or watch. The good thing about scholarship is it makes you critical of what you read and/or watch.

[Mithrea]

Originally posted by Azure
LoL Mithrea!

The bad thing about scholarship is that it makes you critical of what you read and/or watch. The good thing about scholarship is it makes you critical of what you read and/or watch.

:rotfl: That is so true ;)

[Sequoia]

Originally posted by SerenityMoon
mmm...lestat.......

I third that! :D

But seriously. . . I think vampires are fascinating. I think that there are several kinds. . . have personally met two of them, though I am not sure I would want to meet some!! I think there are blood, energy, and. . . well, I've been told some rather fascinating things about the idea of "soul vampires". . . did I say fascinating? I meant scary. Really fsking scary :blushake:

I imagine that there are some out there nasty, like any other kind of people, but those I know are mostly just. . . 'normal' people, good friends of mine. I wouldn't trade them for the world. :)

I think the part about killing people is legend. . . I mean, there are murderers in every walk of life, right? But I don't think a vampire kills someone just by feeding. . . o_o wouldn't that much blood make someone like. . explode. . . or something? I don't know as much about energy vampires. . . I never have felt any bad effects around a friend of mine, and she is. . . soooo. . . *shrugs and smiles*

I'm just reading the anne rice books. . . . MMMM LESTAT ^^;;;; *giggles* but seriously, I'm enjoying them. I've heard the audiobook of The Vampire Lestat but I think it was abridged, so I bought the book. I'm halfway through the book version of Interview With The Vampire (which, although lacking in pretty bishounen eye-candy goodness, is MUCH better so far than the movie), and I cannot WAIT to read lestat's book! eeeehehehhee

Someone once suggested that Anne Rice is an actual vampire, mixing legends a bit with themselves, to tell their story, and using "Anne Rice" as a cover. . . what do you think about that?

[MidnightSun]

Ok..here's a question for all the Lestat lovers ;)

Who do you like better...Lestat-Tom Cruise or Lestat-Stuart Townsend?

I like both..but I really liked the way Stuart Townsend played him. Came across more..human, if that makes sense. I love both of the movies though.

[Emaleth]

I never liked the Tom Cruise Lestat much. He was too old, Lestat always seemed to me very boyish and I think Stuart Townsend has this quality, too.

Blessed Be

[SerenityMoon]

DEFINITELY the tom cruise lestat. i don't normally like tom cruise that much, but man in that movie, he was just hot. and sensual. and............*melts into a puddle of goo*

[Sequoia]

ne, I'm assuming that Stuart Townsend is Lestat in Queen Of The Damned? I havn't seen it yet!! aaah!! I'm missing out on Lestat bishounen goodness!! *cry*

[Azure]

A friend of mine wrote a paper on Anne Rice in grad school, and actually managed to correspond with her a bit for research. Sorry to tell you but she is definitely a real flesh and blood human.

I thought Tom Cruise was seriously cute in Interview with the Vampire

[AradiaSupernova]

well...Anne Rice is my favorite author.I don't see how anyone can't love her. Pandora was my favorite story, except Blood and Gold or Queen of the Damned. I don't feel the need to pick stuff like that apart, as long as its a good story, and in my opinion, all of them are very good stories.

[AradiaSupernova]

and I prefer Stuart Townsend.

[Nina]

Blood and Gold??? Is this one I've missed? Or is it just that it was released with a different title in the UK?

I liked Servant of the Bones, and of course, all the vampire books. I also liked Feast of all Saints. And Belinda. Oh, darn it, I like them all!!!

[Jazzmine]

I haven't seen the new movie yet. But I'm planning on it. Just can't seem to stay away from those kinds. I have seen the new Blade movie. And as for Wesley Snipes, he can bite me anytime.
:loveduv: :loveduv:
He is a good guy Vampire, doesn't want to hurt regular people.
Gotta love it.

[MidnightSun]

Nina, Blood and Gold is the story about Marius. The whole book is about his life. It's actually very good.

[AradiaSupernova]

Blood and Gold is one of the Vampire Chronicles. Came out in 2001. Its the story of Marius's (that totally looks wrong) life past leaving Pandora. Awesome story :)

[Flaire-FireStar]

8O I fell asleep during Interview With the Vampire *dodges smacks* I was tired!!!! :wah2:

[MidnightSun]

tsk tsk Flaire! :p

[Azure]

I hope at least it was during the Kristen Dunst parts and not during anything involving Antonio Banderas, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise, Flaire.

[MidnightSun]

Azure, I thought Kirsten Dunst did an excellent job with Claudia. For such a young kid to play a role like that? I mean...wow.

[Azure]

I thought she was fine - I'm just thinking the appeal factor of three good looking adult men to a straight woman is higher than a 12 year old child's. . .

[MidnightSun]

I see your point :) I loved that whole movie to death. I saw it when I was 8 or 9..so u can imagine why I was drawn to the character of Claudia..seemed like she was close to my age when I first saw it. It was also when I was still in love with the idea of being a vampire..hehehe

[Flaire-FireStar]

It was at the very beginning. I was at a sleep-over or something and we had watched another movie before that already. :rolleyes:

Blah...oh well, I'm in the middle of reading the book though. :)

[SerenityMoon]

puma hime: ahh don't worry. you didn't miss anything. he wasn't a good lestat. blaaah.
midnightsun: hell, i'm 20 and claudia appealed to me. she was awesome!

[MidnightSun]

SerenityMoon...yes she was awesome :) The whole movie was awesome :) For those of you that haven't seen Queen Of The Damned yet...don't listen to the nay sayers! See it for yourself! lol

[PrincessHLHofMW]

Originally posted by Azure
I don't read Anne Rice anymore since she started butchering history - the fact the the crux of the Lasher series was based on Henry VIII's dissolution of the monestaries in Scotland - HELLO! - Henry was never king of Scotland, that happened in England. No tolerance for shoddy research.

I do enjoy Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's books very much. I'm also writing my own, the first part of which is set in 1930s Nebraska, and the second part which I'm working on now is set in 1790s Charleston.

when you get published (which i know you will)tell us the name of the book! i looooooooove vampires

[Flaire-FireStar]

Originally posted by MidnightSun
SerenityMoon...yes she was awesome :) The whole movie was awesome :) For those of you that haven't seen Queen Of The Damned yet...don't listen to the nay sayers! See it for yourself! lol

I'd see it even if people say not to. :p I just want to read the book first... :T

[SerenityMoon]

blah. i don't care to see the queen of the damned movie. my friend (who is dedicated to anne rice's books and loves the entire vampire series) saw it and hated it. i trust her opinoin greatly ^^;; especially since she's the one who INTRODUCED me to all of it.

[MidnightSun]

SerenityMoon...AradiaSupernova is my sister and is in love with Anne Rice's books. *I'm dead serious, ask her a question about the books shes read and she can tell u anything..lol* She saw the movie and was disappointed at parts..but loved it either way. *shrugs* I'd still see it for myself first.

[Flaire-FireStar]

I guess that happens with any movie though. I went to see "The Mothman Prophecies" and was very disappointed with it. But then again, the book really didn't have that much of a plot line either. *shrugs*

Queen of the Damned was one of the movies I wanted to see anyway...

[Azure]

When they make a movie of a book I like, I find it easiest to try to think of the movie as separate from the book, and try to judge it by it's own merits - that way I'm not so disappointed.

There aren't many films of books I like as much as the book.

"Interview with the Vampire" is the only Anne Rice I really liked, and while I liked the movie on it's own, it doesn't live up to the book.

[PegUnicorn]

Sorry I haven't been around... Been busy.

Anyway I love all works of litature on vampires. Anne Rice to me is the best because of the sense of style. I loved Pandora. Maybe because I love Marius.

[flar7]

Tom Cruise was a better Lestat judging by the books character,
but didnt quite have the look, although the blonde hair was good.

Memnoch the Devil was my favorite in the series, Lestat is just
awesome in it, and not quite as dumb as in some of his other
adventures, such as, Tale of the Body Thief.....arg!!

[SerenityMoon]

*shrug* still dun wanna see it =P

[Draven31]

Oh goodness I'm a total vampire freak ..I even had custom fangs made last halloween..when I did I became a member of his clan .his website is cool for anybody interested http://www.vampires-realm.com

[Sequoia]

okay! i've got a way to bring this thread back to life :D it's on the brink. . .

What if. . . suddenly, vampires were a reality. A commonplace, well-known, reality. Not the kind that kill when they drink or anything, but. . . just the general idea of a vampire (in it's various forms we've discussed).

What would happen? How would the world be different? :D

[Old Witch]

Whole lot of people wearing turtlenecks and carrying guns with silver bullets??:eek:

[Flaire-FireStar]

I'd start sleeping in the day and working at night. ;)

[Azure]

I think, Puma, that in some sense they are - in that we enjoy playing out those fantasies in various ways. . . Vampires in our world represent risk, sensuality, escape from the represive everyday world. They take what they want to survive - blood, energy, even a piece of the soul, and the offer a form of immortality to those who intrigue them.

Isn't that what really intense love afffairs are like?

Isn't that the reason we stay at clubs in our favorite really kick - a$$ clothes until the wee hours, play in reinactment societies and Ren Fests, spend our time reading and meditating on the subject to begin with?

Just a thought.

[charmedkisses1]

I LOVE vampire myths and legends (since i was BORN) but nothing dead could ever be sexy to me. Sorry. :lol: