View Full Version : How does everybody else feel about this???
Tiana_Ecarias
September 12th, 2002, 02:24 AM
I can't turn on my tv with out seeing everything that happened one year ago today all over again. I'm sorry, but I don't need visual reminders about how terrible and shocking it was, nor how quikly a tragedy can plop itself on your doorstep.
How does everyone else feel about this? I thpuoght I'd ask and find out if I was the only one who felt this way, or if a few others feel the same.
Tiana_Ecarias
Zitan
September 12th, 2002, 02:31 AM
I've avoided talking about this, for the same reason you made the post, but since you and I are the only ones here, why not :)
I am with you, I certainly don't need reminders, and even over here in NZ there are papers, tv programs, etc. Don't get me wrong it was terrible what happened. It is also terrible that a country of africians is starving to death because they sold all their corn to the World Bank. Wooah, there is just so much hardship out there, sometimes you just want to focus on simple things.
Like tonights sunset, so beautiful and free :)
Blessings to you Tiana,
Z.
Tiana_Ecarias
September 12th, 2002, 02:42 AM
Sometimes I wonder since we all came from the same beginings, and will all end up at the same end, why we insist on trying to destroy each other.
But like you said, sometimes you have to focus on the simple things, like how many stars are in he sky and how beautiful the night is.
Hiatrasa(blessings and peace to you)
Tiana Ecarias
Zitan
September 12th, 2002, 02:46 AM
Totally, and thanks for the sweet blessings :)
I got to go focus on Dinner right now ;)
Nice meeting you.
Mex
September 12th, 2002, 05:09 AM
Hey! you guys are not alone!!!!!! I know how you feel about the tragedy. I actually felt sick with anxiety leading up to September 11. However, what you have to take into consideration is that we have never experienced such a tragedy of this calibre in our lifetime and whether we like it or not it will always come back to haunt us like any other part of history!!! Let's hope that a tragedy like this remains just that...history!!
Blessed be!
Yvonne Belisle
September 12th, 2002, 07:01 AM
I have been in an odd position here. On the one hand the media here hasn't shut up about it for a whole year making to me a mockery of everything and making me sick and tired of hearing about it. On the other hand it is an increadable tragedy that has impacted a large number of people so I feel bad for them. I have watched people suddenly putting up the flag and attacking anyone who isn't respectful of it et they don't even really understand all that was sacrificed in the past for that flag making me think they are nothing more than hipocrits many of them displaying the flag and making anti islamic coments because they think it is right. I find it all sick and just wish it would stop being an issue. Nothing we do at this point will change what happened and all our nation seems to be willing to do is perpetuate bad will elsewhere making the probability of this reoccuring rise. I find the whole thing a headache. I wish the media would just shut up stop trivializing it stop commercializing it and just let people get over it and start to heal the more it is crammed down thier throats the longer and harder that process will be.
Faery-Wings
September 12th, 2002, 07:26 AM
I have to disagree to an extent.
I hate the media for making it a 24 hour (or whatever) programming. I hate the fact that it became sensationalized. Yet at the same time, I feel like watching and listening helped the healing process for me. At first I couldn't stand watching. Then I did, for just a bit at a time. I think, for me, the key was watching judiciously.
One thing I watched yesterday was listening to the stories of survivors, of the people in the gov't reflect on their stories of how they felt last year. As they recounted their experiences, they became people, not numbers. ABC did a nice job interviewing the White House members and press corps. I might not like the government from a political standpoint, however seeing them as Americans who had to deal with this and make decisions, it helped me respect them a lot more.
Hearing them call out the names also put in perspective that these were not just 3000 of "whatever" but 3000 people.
It also helped me to listen and think from a less emotional and scared POV than last year. Hearing and seeing the same things I saw last year, minus the terror of wondering where family and friends were and what was going to happen next helped me to deal with it better.
I ended up watching a little bit in the morning from Ground Zero and then a bit later in the afternoon. After dinner I watched an hour of the ABC special. Heh, I haven't watches this much news since late October of last year. I usually get my news online because of the lack of sensationalism there. ;)
People need to be able to find there own way of handling this. Some people need to keep away fromt he media, it might just help others.
For me a blend of prayer and meditiation, going to our town's memorial park, lighting candles and watching some tv helped me in this process.
Blessings to all.
Chris
shnen
September 12th, 2002, 08:06 AM
I agree with you. It is hard enough to have the mental images, I dont need them played over and over to torment me.
When I visited the US after the attack I felt very sorry for the American people. In Canada it was still in the media a bit, but not much, but in the US the media and government was tormenting you everyday with alerts, potential threats, the past year you have all lived in fear, and the media and government dont help you.
My heart goes out to you, and yes, turn off the tv to escape from it... one reason why I can't be bothered to watch it.
Yvonne Belisle
September 12th, 2002, 10:16 AM
Do you guys realize there were people charging $15 just to point out the spot the three firemen raised the flag at?????
Old Witch
September 12th, 2002, 11:50 AM
I taped "Today" this am because I had an appt. early. A book called "The 9/11 Syndrome" and its author....... you know, my memory ain't what it never was, I write everything down, I've got to find it.....I even had the name of the book wrong......."The September 11 Syndrome" by Harriet Braiker sounds like it might be helpful. She wrote it for people like a lot of us, who saw it on TV and are stressed still........I think I will get it.......I need to move on some.........
Illuminatus
September 12th, 2002, 11:50 AM
It's a media orgy, and the American Psyche is the main course.
Always it's one story, and it gets shoved down our throats with a plunger and a funnel, for weeks and even months on end.
The week after 9-11, I told my sister "Well, at least we don't have to hear about that dead intern any more", because suddenly Gary Condit and Chandra Levy weren't the story of the day.
And before Chandra Levy came OJ Simpson. For a year, that was all you could hear about. Too bad the Robert Blake murder case wasn't more interesting, I would have preferred that one over 9-11.
Do as I do and turn off your TV. Or watch channels that don't prattle on about mass murder 24/7. The Food Network is good, Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, Animal Planet sometimes (they do have a few shows about rescue dogs at ground zero sometimes). Bravo, and the Travel Channel, (I don't get that one, wish I did).
It was looking up for a while, too. The tag-team of the catholic molestation scandal and the sudden reportings of kidnappings were a break in the clouds. Hopefully, the media will find something more pleasant to harp on for the next year or so.
A year ago, it was news. It's not news now. Now, it's just people on a highway driving past an accident scene for the second time, and rubbernecking for the best view of the carnage.
- Illuminatus
Kaylara
September 12th, 2002, 12:23 PM
Wonderfully put Ill...
Yvonne Belisle
September 12th, 2002, 12:32 PM
Ill is correct all people were doing yesterday was plastering the flag or the pic with the guys putting up the flag or anything else they thought would sell on everything under the sun and selling it as souvineers. Ironically the ones who are hurt the most are those that lost someone who are expected to hurt and people far enough away they only got media accounts. The people in the general area that were not in the line of fire so to speak have turned it into a great opportunity for capitalism. Those that are hurt by it emotionally need to seek help because they are becoming victems of those that see it as a fast way to make a buck. That includes the media.
WandererInGray
September 12th, 2002, 01:39 PM
You didn't have to physically be there or have lost someone you knew to be hurt by this emotionally.
Yvonne Belisle
September 12th, 2002, 02:22 PM
Ironically the ones who are hurt the most are those that lost someone who are expected to hurt and people far enough away they only got media accounts.
I don't know who said they weren't hurt if they weren't there I am saying maybe they would be healing if the media would back off some and give them time to heal.
Tiana_Ecarias
September 12th, 2002, 03:54 PM
We shouldn' have to watch in moderation, my 3 year old neice turned on the tv last night to watch her cartoons, and what was on instead was a show about 9/11, and she freaked, thinking it was happeing all over again.
The people who are willing to turn around and make a dollar off of what happened are people who need to back off and gewt some humanity, or if not humanity, atleast some sensitivity.
I've always known that people have a morbid sense, rubernecking at a scene of a car accident. People shoving and clawing to get a look at teh car full of bullet holes and Bonnie's and Cylde's bodies, also full of bullets.
But even that sense has a limit, and I hope that the news reaches it limit soon, for mine was reached a year ago, about 2 hours after the last plane crashed.
Tiana Ecarias
Emerald Oak
September 12th, 2002, 04:02 PM
I agree with that one reoccuring point almost everyone's made: It's being shoved down our throats. The only two channels I watch are Comedy Central and Cartoon Netowork. Comedy Central can't even go to a freakin' commercial break without showing ATLEAST two of "those" commercials... Chilling glimpses at what America would be like without freedom (a young guy getting pulled over and arrested for having newspapers in his car, church meetings held in secret underground shelters, etc.), and it's getting sick.
I get it. America would suck without freedom. But we have freedom and it's not gonna be torn away by some hermit who HIDING from us, for crying out loud! I admit, the commercials impacted me a little the first few times I saw them, but now, after only TWO DAYS of them being on air, I'm sick of them.
Tiana_Ecarias
September 12th, 2002, 04:17 PM
I haven' seen those 2 commercials thankfully, but I have see posters saying "never forget!" Like i ever really could.
Atleast we know how the WWII veterans felt when Pearl Harbor happened.
The only thing that make me wonder is they said that the tragedy of Pearl Habor would only happen once in a life time, well, a lot of WWII veterans are still here, so they have seen a similar tragedy all over again.
What tragedy is in store for us when we get older? I'm curious to know, so as to prepare, and yet, I'm am moe then wiling to just wait and see. And not think about it.
Tiana Ecarias
Haedis
September 12th, 2002, 04:58 PM
When the attacks first happened I was more shocked than sad. I dont usually get emotional over the death of people in other countries and I think it would be pretty sick to get really emotional about it just because it happened in my country. The first time I actually cried about it was watching how callous and insincere George Bush sounded about the whole ordeal when he gave speeches. Then to see how everyone seemed to jump on the patriotic bandwagon either to sell things or to simply conform....I really got disgusted with humanity in general. For me its not so disheartening that terrorism happens (we're human and I think its a mistake to assume we should be more evolved than to fight)...its more upsetting how death is used as a vehicle to push everyones ****ing agendas.
Tiana_Ecarias
September 12th, 2002, 05:14 PM
agreed Haedis, like I said, humans have a morbid sense of things, and death facinates them way to much. But, at the same time, it also scares the hell out of the, so they broadcast it out so they don;t really have to deal with it.
No offense meant to Bush, but all he wants is to go to war with some one in the middle east, he really doesn't care with who, as long as he's getting some of the ones who might be involved.
Tiana Ecarias
Emerald Oak
September 12th, 2002, 09:46 PM
They showed a little video clip of Bush going on about how badly America was messed up at the time, and then it switched back to Jon Stewart (the host), who says, and I quote, "And it's only my first year!"
The quote may be a little off, but you get the point ;)
Witchy Cowgirl
September 12th, 2002, 11:54 PM
We don't get TV reception at our home so I didn't see the repeat. (I didn't see it the first time either.)
My favorite morning radio show played the entire show they had recorded from the orginal day.
I thought that was horrible enough. Not to mention the repeats of it on TV.
I think it is a terrible torture to the folks that were there, lost loved ones, or in some way was directly affected.
My boss said he needed it for closure. I don't understand.
Yvonne Belisle
September 12th, 2002, 11:56 PM
If I had not seen it in some way shape or form for a whole year I would have been more affected when the anniversary came.
aria
September 15th, 2002, 12:27 AM
I think it's all just depressing. I mean, even if I wanted to forget for some reason, it's not possible. Hearing about it every day didn't really help me much, either. *sigh*
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