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Sephiroth
May 8th, 2001, 03:22 PM
i will mail this in to show how we feel about this after every one puts their comments

Slasher wounds kids
Knife-wielding assailant brings morning of terror to Mountain View

By Doug O'harra, Lisa Demer And Elizabeth Manning
Anchorage Daily News

(Published May 8, 2001)
A man who told one victim "Get ready to meet your maker" attacked children with a fillet knife early Monday morning at Mountain View Elementary School, slashing and seriously injuring four young boys before he was cornered by teachers and disarmed by police.


Mountain View Elementary students were bused from the school after an attack in which four students were stabbed. The students were taken to nearby William Tyson Elementary. (Marc Lester / Anchorage Daily News)
The attack sent some children screaming into the school and others fighting to protect their classmates. It ended minutes later with dozens of children locked in rooms guarded by teachers.

A teacher confronted the assailant in a classroom and used a desk and then a plastic bin to keep the man off a wounded, sobbing boy who lay bleeding on the floor, according to a witness.

The boy "was crying and talking, saying 'Please don't kill me, please don't kill me,' " said Randy Smith, head of the Mountain View Community Patrol, who responded to the scene and helped other teachers prevent the man from escaping the room. "He was ranting and raving and threatening all of us with the knife."

Within minutes, police armed with several types of weapons entered the classroom and shot the man in the arm, leg and hand with a beanbag projectile containing steel shot. The final blow broke the man's hand, forcing him to drop the knife, according to Anchorage police.

Jason W. Pritchard, 33, was charged with four counts of first-degree attempted murder and four counts of first-degree assault.

Pritchard, who has an extensive criminal record and a history of psychiatric problems, was taken to Cook Inlet Pre-Trial Facility and held in lieu of $2 million bail.

The four victims, all 8 and 9 years old, each underwent surgery Monday for wounds to the neck, throat and head. All are expected to survive, said police spokeswoman Anita Shell.

Cody Brown, 8, and brothers Billy Moy, 8, and Eric Moy, 9, were listed in serious condition in the pediatrics intensive care unit at Providence Alaska Medical Center. The fourth victim, Stephan Hansell, 8, was in fair condition at Alaska Regional Hospital on Monday evening.

"He was really concerned about his classmates when he woke up," said an uncle of Hansell's, Rob Lee. "He's pretty tough."

The attack triggered a massive response and investigation by Anchorage police, with more than 30 detectives combing the school grounds and the school hallway for evidence and interviewing at least 50 children and teachers who witnessed the attack, according to Deputy Chief Mark Mew.

School superintendent Carol Comeau said the district will review all safety procedures at Mountain View and other schools.

Classes were canceled at Mountain View today to allow staffers and children to meet with counselors.

Police were still sorting out the sequence of events Monday and don't know what motivated the attack, said spokesman Ron McGee.

When first in custody, the man lay facedown on the seat of the patrol car, according to Sgt. Bill Kaas. Then he would not answer questions or give his name, forcing police to identify him with fingerprint records and officers who recognized him from a previous incident, said Police Chief Walter Monegan.

"We heard that he may have known one of the students, but we can't confirm that," McGee added. "He has been uncooperative. He is not saying anything."

Children and staffers from the school were bused to nearby William Tyson Elementary, where they were reunited with parents and questioned by police.

Interviews with students who witnessed the attack describe a horrifying bolt of swift and inexplicable aggression.

The man approached the school about 8:15 a.m. while some students were lining up to go inside for breakfast and others were on the playground, witnesses said. Police later estimated that about 50 students were outside the school at the time.

Third-grader Parrish Rowell, 9, said he was walking to school with some friends when he noticed a man on foot behind them. Moments later, Rowell saw the man trying to grab 8-year-old Potasi Uta. Rowell ran into the school.

Uta said he jumped away and then curled up into a ball on the ground next to a wall. Without speaking, the man bent over and tried to cut him, Uta said.

The boy leaped up, struck the man in the stomach with his elbow and ran into the parking lot and then into the school. He said a teacher told him to hide in his classroom.

Billy and Eric Moy were waiting to be let into the school for breakfast with their sister, Ashley Smith, 11. She saw the man grab one brother and cut him.

"He just came up to him," she said. "He had a knife and started cutting him, his throat."

Then she saw the other brother holding his throat, which was bleeding.

Sixth-grader Kevin Bruno, 12, was playing basketball before school when some other kids told him a little boy was getting stabbed. He ran over to where the man was hurting a boy, whose name he didn't know.

"I saw him on top of the kid, stabbing him. I told him to get off. He wouldn't, so I hit him," said Bruno, visibly shaken.

Bruno threw himself into the man with his shoulder, "like a football hit," and knocked him away. He told the boy to get to the school nurse. The man jumped up and chased Bruno and some other children. Bruno told them to run into the school. But one of the children, later identified as Cody Brown, didn't get away, Bruno said.

"He got this other kid and tried to slit his throat," Bruno said.

Bruno ran around the building and knocked on windows to alert teachers. Through a window, he could see the man grappling with a male teacher.

In one of the most chilling incidents, Stephan Hansell, a second-grader, was asked for his name by the man, whom he didn't recognize, according to his uncle Lee.

"OK, Stephan, get ready to meet your maker," the man told the boy, according to Lee. Hansell was then cut from his temple to near his throat, according to his father, Dwayne Hansell.

As the children ran into the school, teachers directed them into classrooms and offices with the idea of locking the doors, following a drill practiced last week. Mountain View principal Doris Ross called 911 at 8:28 a.m., according to police logs. A great deal of blood was left in the main hall, according to witnesses.

Fourth-grader Pazong Yang, 10, said she was taken into a classroom by a teacher, who ordered the children to get under tables and said she would lock the door.

But before the teacher could seal off the room, the suspect rushed in, Yang said. The man pushed the teacher down, and then a male teacher rushed in and knocked the attacker down.

The children then ran out of the room, Yang said.

Randy Smith and George Smith, members of the Mountain View community patrol, were taking a car to a mechanic when they heard the call on the scanner. "We were there in about 30 seconds," Randy Smith said.

The two men entered the school and saw commotion down the hall in front of a classroom on the east end. The attacker had pushed desks into the door, which had broken glass. Randy Smith said he and several teachers pulled the desks out of the way and confronted the attacker in the room.

As Pritchard was cornered in the classroom, he kept muttering to himself about God, George Smith said.

"He said, 'Everything is going to be OK. . . . We're all going to heaven to see God,' " George Smith said.

A male teacher kept the attacker off a wounded, crying boy lying on the floor, Randy Smith said. The identities of the boy and the district employee could not be confirmed Monday.

"The first two officers showed up, and they confronted him with their guns drawn and got his undivided attention," Randy Smith said. "It was just long enough for the teacher to grab the kid and drag him out into the hall."

Randy Smith praised the actions of the teachers in the school. "They saved that boy's life," he said. "Everybody did the right thing, and fortunately APD did the right thing."

In the aftermath, police scoured the grounds and searched the roof. Officers with dogs checked the woods for other victims. Several neighborhood kids stood across the street looking at the school, parts of which were cordoned off with yellow crime scene tape.

Francisco Ozuna said he hid in the classroom next to where the attacker was finally stopped. "I felt sad," he said. "I thought he was going to kill everybody."

By midday, Classroom 13, where Pritchard was taken into custody, was still littered with papers and markers and overturned desks. Through a window, one could see the day's schedule on the board: play practice at 9 a.m., math at 10 a.m. A brightly colored kid's backpack lay on the floor. A large pool of blood had soaked the carpet.

Nearby was a bloody print of a child's right hand.

Doug O'Harra can be reached at do'harra@adn.com or 257-4334, Lisa Demer at ldemer@adn.com or 257-4390 and Elizabeth Manning at emanning@adn.com or 257-4323. Reporters Tim Pryor, Rosemary Shinohara and Lucas Wall contributed to this story.





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School attack at a glance


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arrested: Jason Pritchard, a 33-year-old Anchorage man with a long record.

charges: Four counts of first-degree attempted murder; four counts of first-degree assault.

Hospitalized: Four boys -- Cody Brown, 8; Stephan Hansell, 7; Eric Moy, 9, and Billy Moy, 8 -- were cut with a fillet knife and suffered neck, head and face injuries. All are in serious to fair condition at local hospitals.

School Canceled: Mountain View Elementary is closed today.

Sephiroth
May 8th, 2001, 03:41 PM
this will be going to the police and the school


and mystique u werent thinking of cuting of his dick. so u because he did that three years ago so u missed out on that chance

richardcranium
May 8th, 2001, 04:11 PM
This is the reason I think vigilante justice should be legal. The people concerned with this case will never get to tsee what they want to see happen. This man has a long record and has had psyciatric help. He should not be on the streets around our children and loved ones. When he goes to trial they will plea insanity and he will go to a hospital for a while and he will be right back out. I am sorry if I offended anyone one but this is how I have seen the american judicial system work. "He doesn't understand what he did because he is mentally incapable of understanding right from wrong." I bet the people who say this would sing a different tune if some "mentally incapable" man talked their daughter into a car, drove them across the state, viciously raped and then left herto die.

Once again I am sorry if I offended anyone. Just voicing my opinion.

Earth Walker
May 9th, 2001, 09:38 AM
Too many times have I heard men like him use mental
incompetency, etc, as a legal excuse to avoid jail or
prison time...for harming children, raping/murdering women,
blacks, lesbians, gays, etc.

They should pass laws to abolish the mental incompetency
and panic defenses, etc.
Keep these lowlifes in prison for life, with NO parole....to
prevent other people from being victimized, especially children!


Why fear ye the Dark Queen, oh men?
She is your renewer.
--Dion Fortune

Yvonne Belisle
May 9th, 2001, 12:16 PM
Vigilante justice isn't justice! How many people died in the south because they were the right color to be blamed. Vigilante justice is mob rules and then there are no rules. People lose control and the wrong people die. There are people in jail right now convicted of crimes that they didn't do. People are being released after years in jail because they were finally able to prove that they weren't the guilty party. Can you control a mob that thinks some teenage girl was raped. How about the guilt you would feel when you learned she lied because she was mad at the boy. We do need more police we do need more security but not a pack of vigilantes. If you want to help volunteer at a school or a hospital. Go on rides with the police department they have volunteer patrols. Don't just go out and think to right the worlds wrongs. A very good friend of mine would have died in high school if we had vigilante justice. His girlfriend got mad at him and accussed him of rape she didn't tell the truth until she was in court after his grandmother had a heart attack. He went to juvinile hall and counciling as a rapest because of her. His grandmother almost died. Do you think she's the only girl to ever get mad at a boy??? Would you have known the truth? The police didn't. Laws need to be tougher and enforcement needs to be viable right now they don't have room in jails to put the bad people in. We need to clean this up so not as many people are sent right back to the streets. We also need facilities that are ment for those that are criminally insane where it is a genuine illness and not an excuse.

Amora
May 9th, 2001, 12:40 PM
And the reason this lunatic was not already in jail is WHY????.... Because our justice system stinks. I believe in the death penalty and believe it should be used here. But bring back the chair for this sicko.

Sephiroth
May 9th, 2001, 12:44 PM
amora up here in alaska we dont have the death penalty but we can make ure something will happen.

gunner
May 9th, 2001, 01:06 PM
had i been there he'd have died on the spot! of course then i'd have gone to jail for having a gun on school property but in such case i'd consider it worth the price.

Xois
May 9th, 2001, 01:26 PM
gunner, I think that is part of the problem. Kids don't feel safe because other kids bring guns to school, so we shoudl all have guns? That is like ****ing to save virginity...the only place that works is in a Joyce novel... :)

This is a terrible thing. I do not believe in the death penalty (guess I am just another stupid liberal) becuase it turns innocent law abiding citizens into raving lunitics foaming at the mouth for the death of another person, and that, I think, is ethically wrong..

But believing that the Death Penalty is ethically wrong, does NOT mean I think this person shouldn't be punished or kept in prision for a VERY long time

Death penalty doesn't apply to attempted murder, does it? I don't think it does, so that point is really moot anyway... thank goodness the injured are expected to recover

Xois

gunner
May 9th, 2001, 01:48 PM
you mistake me, i'd have shot him for attempting murder with the knife in his hand, if he dropped it he'd live, i'm better trained than that even though i'm not a cop. since he was taken alive the system will deal with him. you're right, attempted murder is not a "death penalty" crime nor should it be the proper punishment is a long time in jail. the gun question is one i won't go into here, i live where they are fairly available and anyone over 21 and not a convicted felon can choose to carry one or not as he or she sees fit and shootings are quite rare but from the experience i've had this can be rather an emotional issue and i'd prefer not to start such a discussion here. as for "stupid liberal" the words are not necessarily synonymous, disagreeing does not make either of us "stupid".

Xois
May 9th, 2001, 01:52 PM
Gunner!

Sorry...did i really come across like that! :) I got to remember to add more smiley faces! :) :) :) :D

No I didn't mistake you...i was just curious about what you meant about carrying a gun in school

I don't really think its appropriate for 8 or 9 year olds to have a gun in school or at all...

Just my opinion

:)

I was kidding about the stupid liberal thing... Though as a socialist, I am PRETTY DAMN LIBERAL hehehehe

No, i respect your opinion. I live in a city...i do not live in bear country so I have NO reason to carry a gun of any sort...

if you live somewhere where it is necessary, or where you find it desirable to have one or many, thats cool!

Just so long as I don't have to live there *giggle* :D

Xois

Xois
May 9th, 2001, 01:53 PM
hmm NE huh...sounds like you might live in NH or VT... :)

Amora
May 9th, 2001, 01:54 PM
Ok so the death penalty thing won't fit here...Can we implement AN EYE FOR AN EYE policy? Slice him up like a turkey on Thanksgiving and see if he likes it!;)

Yvonne Belisle
May 9th, 2001, 02:12 PM
I guess I'm just kind of wierd. I believe that we should have the right to have guns within limits. You don't need an automatic to shoot deer and if you are using it for defense that's abit much. Are you going against an armed mob? I believe in the death penalty but I think there should be no question of his/her guilt. There have been times where someone came upon a murder and picked up or removed the weapon from the body to help the victem and then someone else came along. Guess who gets accused in that case? It makes sence they are standing or sitting there with the murder weapon..... You see where my concern is. When people get fired up about a cause they often loose sight of the big picture. Our criminal justice system needs revamping but the general principles are something I am willing to die to defend. When the colonies fought to free this country one of the reasons they fought was to be judged for crimes fairly. In those days if a British soldier said you did it then you did. No one in the government cared if it was that soldier that had done the crime you were just a colonial. When we stop using our justice system we go back to what they fought to be free from. The words judge not lest ye be judged are valid in any life. That man should not have been free and yes our justice system failed those children but if we take away that system who will take responsibility for our mistakes. Who will care for the mind of an innocent person who has been wrongly broken by the mob? We need to mend the system we have and get real intervention to the kids in juvinile to keep them out of the adult system. Get the mentally ill real treatment. Legalize and regulate prostitution and some drugs. Make some laws harsher there are so many other things to try before we give up on our justice system. Steve Miller Band has a song that says it very well "Fly Like An Eagle" if you haven't heard it download it and listen or look up the lyrics.

gunner
May 9th, 2001, 02:26 PM
vermont is the place, down in the southeast corner about 7 1/2 miles north of the mass. line. i carry both mass. and new hampshire non resident pistol permits, the mass permit is their "class a" which allows me the same "high capacity" magazines the cops use. vermont does not require a "pistol permit", if you get out of line with a gun we just salt you away for a very long time in less than 4 star accommodations. as to "carrying a gun on school property" that is a federal violation as well as being illegal under most if not all state law (it is illegal here i do know) and i do agree that kids should not be carrying guns in school, or anywhere else for that matter if not supervised by a responsible adult. as for ol' brother bear, we've happened across each other a few times in the woods back when i used to go deer hunting, he's a gentleman unless you mess with him, we just gave each other plenty of room and went on about our business.

Xois
May 9th, 2001, 02:48 PM
ah VT! Beautiful...I almost moved to right acorss to Conn. River in VT. :D

But I had to finish my MA first...

richardcranium
May 9th, 2001, 02:53 PM
OK, maybe the vigilante justice thing is to much but the government needs to get a little more strict on things like this. If they did away with the whole "mental" thing then I think I could live with that

gunner
May 9th, 2001, 03:06 PM
no yvonne, i don't think you are any kind of wierd, one of the reasons i stopped deer hunting was that i sold my m1903 bolt action springfield .30-06 (a world war one relic) so the only rifle i have is a military type belgian semi auto 7.62 nato caliber i use for military competition shooting (for our canadian neighbors, that would be the same as a canadian "c-1" service rifle) i agree that our justice system needs an overhaul and perhaps fewer laws better enforced, but no, it does not need to be scrapped as we hear some saying. i even agree with legalizing a certain few drugs, marijuana for one, even though i don't use it nor want to. and too why not legalise prostitution, then perhaps we, as a society, can do a better job of protecting the women in the trade from abuse by both clients, pimps and bad cops. someone mentioned "vigilante justice" that i cannot abide, lawful self defense against a real and immediate deadly threat is justified but if no such threat exists then the law rules not a mob or a self appointed "avenger". (n.b., "immediate threat" if an assailant gives up his attack and turns to flee you can NOT shoot him in the back, that is murder). lots of questions and no easy answers, that's life isn't it, but at least here we seem to be doing a bit better job of dealing with questions than much of "mundane" society.

Tigerwallah
May 9th, 2001, 09:38 PM
I whole heartedly believe that evil deeds will be punished by the universe. It is not my place to meet out justice. Vigillante justice is dangerous because it promotes mob violence. Today the hanging of a child killer, tomorrow the burning of a witch. Once it starts to escalate how do you put boundaries on it?

As for the death penalty, if this was a perfect justice system I would be for it. However, politics often play a part in convictions and often innocents are put on death row. I recently saw a several documentaries on the subject, and you would not believe how many people are convicted wrongly. When the public cries out for swift justice, often our police departments do not give the attention to cases that they should. The DA wants to quell public fears, and in haste, an unfortunate person is convicted of a crime he or she didn't commit. How can anyone support the death penalty in an imperfect system such as this? Perhaps if there are witnesses and DNA evidence, however, low budgets don't always make DNA testing possible and eyewitness could have ulterior motives, or even be mistaken.

I recently saw a case in which a woman was raped. She fingered a man and he was sent to prison for committing the crime. She believed he was the man who attacked her and picked him out in a police lineup. Well, the man faught to have DNA testing done, and sure enough, it wasn't him. The woman felt terrible when she realized that her attacker looked similar to the man she had wrongly put in prison. He was imprisoned for over 10 years of his life for a crime he did not commit. Imagine if it was a murder case, and he was executioned before DNA tests proved him to be innocent.

The man who harmed those children is a very sick individual. Men who harm children are not treated very well in jail. He will get his justice without any of us having to compromise our souls to do it.

cydira
May 10th, 2001, 12:34 AM
Draw and quarter him, slowly.

No bastard that will harm a child deserves to live. Let him die slowly and in severe pain.
<seethes>

Sorry... that just added to an exceedingly stressful day.

Fawn
May 10th, 2001, 12:43 AM
I want to know where the hell was the adults at the school when these children were outside obviously unsupervised!!!! Our schools do not do that--and I have news for those twisted creatures even Mother Nature allows animals to weed out those that are determental to the herd, pride, pack, flock ect.

ARGH!!! I agree I do not care whether this bozo was mentalaty compantent or not--he showed no mercy with those defenseless children---he deserves the same consideration absolutely NO mercy--the sick disgusting thing.
That's our wonderful legal system at its finest work uh?

richardcranium
May 10th, 2001, 05:28 AM
Our government works this way because we the people elcted the officials that run it. Now that we know the problem what do we do about it?? The pagan religion as a whole is the fastest groing religion in the united states. I think that if we as a community got out there and pounded the pavement we could make some changes for the better. What do you guys think about that?

Amora
May 10th, 2001, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by richardcranium
Our government works this way because we the people elcted the officials that run it. Now that we know the problem what do we do about it?? The pagan religion as a whole is the fastest groing religion in the united states. I think that if we as a community got out there and pounded the pavement we could make some changes for the better. What do you guys think about that?

To me that sounds like we would be no better than those crazies who knock on our doors with their unsolicited ideas. Although we all believe our path is best I don't feel it's right to try and recruit others or push our beliefs on them.

richardcranium
May 10th, 2001, 02:53 PM
I wasn't meaning we should go out and start converting christians. I was meaning that the pagan community is growing to a point that we could have some political influence.

Amora
May 10th, 2001, 04:31 PM
Ok I've got ya now;)

It couldn't hurt as long as we all have thick skin because it's only expected they will bash us pretty hard for our beliefs. (Not that I could care...) :rolleyes:

cydira
May 10th, 2001, 08:24 PM
I've got a bigger hammer. :smash: :O

Anyways.... I think that religion is a very small part of the picture when it comes to helping our community. We're all members of the same community and we should all feel reasonably safe to practice what we believe and live our lives, no matter what differences we have. "Incidents" like what has been posted here are norrible assaults against the safety of our community and our integral sense of community.

To have one of your own violate your household with some form of irrational and malicious violence is the same as having a psychopath walk into a school shooting. Both have the same feelings of powerlessness and vulnerablity. If we, as a community of pagans and christians, ignore this, it will happen again and we will lose even more valuble members of our community.

But that's my 2 cents.

idusty88
May 10th, 2001, 08:39 PM
richardcranium[i], Our government works this way because we the people elcted the officials that run it. Now that we know the problem what do we do about it?? The pagan religion as a whole is the fastest groing religion in the united states. I think that if we as a community got out there and pounded the pavement we could make some changes for the better. What do you guys think about that?

[i]Originally posted by Amora To me that sounds like we would be no better than those crazies who knock on our doors with their unsolicited ideas. Although we all believe our path is best I don't feel it's right to try and recruit others or push our beliefs on them.
Religion/spirituality is a personal matter and does not belong in public (i.e. I won't tell you how to wipe or how to worship).
But politics is public to the bone, it belongs in the streets and in our conversations.
Bring it.

gunner
September 21st, 2003, 02:28 PM
i just found the following from "booleanicus" in my e-mail but haven't been able to find it in the thread so i'll copy it here.
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I know you don't want to go into it Gunner, but
in areas where gun ownership is common, violent
crime rates are lower. This is pretty much an
across the board statistic and one that I think is
very telling.
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that's a fairly well known statistic bool, though the gun control establishment would like us to believe otherwise. several states lately have passed "shall issue" concealed carry weapon laws. in every case where they have the media and gun control advocates predicted "dodge city" shootouts, "blood running in the gutters" and daily "road rage" shootings while politicians in police chief's uniforms claimed it would make cop's jobs "more dangerous", that they "would never know when the driver in a traffic stop was armed" hell, they don't now with all the criminals illegally carrying guns, any cop with any common sense approaches a traffic stop as if the occupants of the vehicle are armed until he can check it out. what really happens is that life goes on just as always. law abiding citizens behave themselves as they always have, with or without a gun. criminals go on breaking the law, possessing and carrying guns illegally. (it is by the way, illegal under federal law for a convicted felon to "possess" a gun, even to hold it in his hand for a moment to look at it.)
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Back to topic. Alaska does not have a death
penalty, true. Anchorage is also a very left-leaning
place. What do I mean by that? The stronger a
liberal presence is in a justice system, the more
inclined everyone is to favor the perpetrator.
The more conservative the justice system, the more
inclined they are to favor the victim.
Conservative lawyers and judges will tend to emphasize the
rights of the plaintiff while liberal lawyers and
judges will emphasize the rights of the
defendant. In a place like Anchorage this means that this
man will be portrayed in the courts as the victim
of child abuse, or not enough benefits, any of a
million excuses to explain away his behavior and
absolve him of responsibility for what he did.
Eventually he will walk.
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i think/hope not, the crime that started this thread was so blatant as to make such special pleading irrelevant. given his fairly obvious mental derangement we can hope he winds up in a mental hospital for the rest of his life.
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Oh Goddess, WHY isn't there a stronger
libertarian presence in this country!?
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keep trying, the gods make things possible but humans have to work to make them happen.
"gunner"