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Theres
July 19th, 2008, 03:50 PM
to go along with Coyote as GotW, here is Grandmother Spider...

my first introduction to Grandmother Spider was from a woman personifying Her at a large Pagan festival many years ago. until then i had never heard of Her, and the fact is there doesn't seem to be a lot of diverse information regarding Grandmother Spider on the internet.

however there are a few related stories (or perhaps just different versions of the same story?)...

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/goddess_weekly/71899 (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/goddess_weekly/71899)

Grandmother Spider steals the Sun (Cherokee)…
http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/GrandmotherSpiderStealsTheSun-Cherokee.html (http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/GrandmotherSpiderStealsTheSun-Cherokee.html)

Grandmother Spider steals the Fire (Choctaw)…
http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/GrandmotherSpiderStealstheFire-Choctaw.html (http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/GrandmotherSpiderStealstheFire-Choctaw.html)

maybe someone here can give us some more?

Agaliha
July 19th, 2008, 10:39 PM
Good choice Theres!

I know with the Native Americans there are many variants of the "Grandmother Spider" some similar, some different. I found it hard to find info that's not general... I know the Cherokee's call her "Kanene Ski Amai Yehi" (or at least that's what I've read). I'm not sure what the Hopi and other tribes called her.

I researched (or rather tried to) her in the past because I had and have had many bizarre spider sychronicities, signs, energy, dreams, etc in the last 2-ish years. I never found any answers to it (whether it's her or not), but I do have a unique connection to spiders still and am open to whatever the answer may be, if she say is there and will let me know in time.

Something slightly related, the Aztec "Teotihuacan Spider Woman"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Goddess_of_Teotihuacan

Because of some of the info, I also wondered in the spider energy I've encountered was her...

Interesting stuff, though!

I'll see if I can find any good links :)

Whitewolf
July 20th, 2008, 04:01 PM
Very interesting! Thanks for posting that.

David19
July 21st, 2008, 09:17 PM
Like the others said, cool info, Theres, again, I'll read the links later, but, it's definitely very interesting (I'm actually quite interested in learning more about Native American religions, Gods, spirits, supernatural beings, etc).

Humming Bird
October 10th, 2016, 09:14 PM
Good choice Theres!

I know with the Native Americans there are many variants of the "Grandmother Spider" some similar, some different. I found it hard to find info that's not general... I know the Cherokee's call her "Kanene Ski Amai Yehi" (or at least that's what I've read). I'm not sure what the Hopi and other tribes called her.

I researched (or rather tried to) her in the past because I had and have had many bizarre spider sychronicities, signs, energy, dreams, etc in the last 2-ish years. I never found any answers to it (whether it's her or not), but I do have a unique connection to spiders still and am open to whatever the answer may be, if she say is there and will let me know in time.

Something slightly related, the Aztec "Teotihuacan Spider Woman"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Goddess_of_Teotihuacan

Because of some of the info, I also wondered in the spider energy I've encountered was her...

Interesting stuff, though!

I'll see if I can find any good links :)

That Cherokee is poorly transcribed. It has been butchered,

Kanene Ski Amai Yehi -

Kanene should be Kananesgi meaning spider.
Ski is Sgi which translated is "listen" but what it really means is to "draw to attention" to call up and bring what you are calling into awareness of your call. It is often used at the beginning and end of medicine formula.
Amai should be amayi meaning "place of or in the water"
Yehi should actually be joined to ama here to say that the spider belongs to the place of the water.

So it should be:

Kananesgi sgi amayehi which is not a name, it is:

Spider, listen, [you] belonging to the place of the water.

Because she is a water spider in Cerokee

Grandmother spider is:

Ulisi Kananesgi