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Draven31
September 14th, 2002, 03:47 PM
My boyfriend and I have been invaded...He was diagnosed (sp?)with cancer about two months ago.he doing ok but he doent need alot of well meaning people (bible people) coming around offering to pray for(with) him. we just had three show up trying to talk him into coming to a bible study at there church..(sigh)Rustys not up to running them off and they keep coming around.He even asked if I could hang up a upside down cross or something to scare them away(lol).I guess the friends of ours that know have been asking there church to pray for him and now we have them coming by wanting to covert Rusty in a moment of weakness...I'm not sure if I should scare them off or just ask them to leave because Rusty need to rest..I've got a good spell that keeps door to door salepeople away but what about the bible people?:evilway: :D
LunarSun
September 14th, 2002, 04:27 PM
Having kinda been there - done that ... I know how you feel. Always remember - these people are well meaning and are just trying to help.
For me, I finally said, I'm sorry, I do not share your beliefs etc, and left it at that. (and that from a hospital bed!!)
It was taken well and they then left me alone.
Good luck -- and I hope the treatment path chosen works well for Rusty!!! :)
flar7
September 14th, 2002, 05:21 PM
I would speak to them at the door, thank them for their well wishes
and tell them that he really isnt up to company or going out. That
you appreciate their prayers and well wishes, for them to keep them
up, and that he feels confident in his faith at this time.(no need
to say christian, muslim, pagan or what)
If this doenst work, then you could put up a sign on the door
saying something like no visitors/peddlars/nosy people/ or good
intentioned bigots.
I would save the sign as a last resort, most will heed your word
if you just talk to them calmly and reasonably. Try not to discuss
matters of faith just to avoid hurt feelings.
and, You and your boyfriend have my well wishes, luck and prayers
for your happiness and health.:)
Draven31
September 14th, 2002, 05:33 PM
I may try the sign..The ones today got in the house though.I walked into the living room to a prayer circle LOL .Rusty was looking at me like help me please .Neighbors havent been bad they stay on the porch and his friends dont get to pushy..These people though just came into the house and offered to lay hands and pray..untill I came in and told them he needed his rest.But I think the sign would be a good idea for when I'm at work.
Old Witch
September 14th, 2002, 05:56 PM
Myst had a good idea with her prayer well........ You can direct all those different faiths prayers to a prayer well for his dieties to use as he needs them.............And I will add a prayer to it too..........
materra
September 14th, 2002, 09:20 PM
Try a big "Do not Disturb" sign first... and in slightly smaller print below: Dear well wishers at this time we need you to respect Rusty's need for rest more than visitors. Please help us comply with Doctor's orders. Feel free to leave a note for Rusty if you wish.
and then leave a note pad with a pencil on the door for notes. Perhaps a small basket or box for the notes would be decorative and cheerful.
Hope this works for you too. BB
Old Witch
September 14th, 2002, 09:59 PM
What a good, practical idea!! :D
Witchy Cowgirl
September 14th, 2002, 10:02 PM
I like Flar's idea, then the sign with the paper and pen.
I will be sending my prayers.
Blessings to you and Rusty.
Draven31
September 15th, 2002, 02:55 AM
materra, I like that idea the wording would work great:) .Rusty was thinking when I brought up the sign idea of anyone disturbing my much needed rest would be shot...But I told him it wouldnt be very nice to shoot the nieghbors.Flar's idea was a good one too when I'm not at work. thanks everybody...Any more ideas?.
Faery-Wings
September 15th, 2002, 08:21 AM
I have no more ideas- I think materra's is a great one.
I will send postive and healing energy to him. I will keep you both in my prayers.
ShadowStorm
September 15th, 2002, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by materra
Try a big "Do not Disturb" sign first... and in slightly smaller print below: Dear well wishers at this time we need you to respect Rusty's need for rest more than visitors. Please help us comply with Doctor's orders. Feel free to leave a note for Rusty if you wish.
and then leave a note pad with a pencil on the door for notes. Perhaps a small basket or box for the notes would be decorative and cheerful.
Hope this works for you too. BB
It certainly is much nicer than MY idea!!!!
I have been in this situation, and you suffer through it painfully and they just keep coming.
It's a bit too awkward to bring up the fact that their beliefs are not the ONLY way to believe and that you have a slightly different take on things.
Mention that you might not be of their faith and they'll start a prayer circle to save your souls!!!
lol!!!
Try the note thing...sounds like genius to me!.
I am praying for health and light in your home!!!!
:boing:
Amemphis
September 16th, 2002, 07:44 AM
They mean well. The note pad idea is really good. Polite and to the point. If you try telling them you're of another faith they will instead have a prayer circle for your souls. I hope Rusty...*Loss of words* doesn't suffer? Feel better? Gets well soon?
Psyche Ague
September 16th, 2002, 10:35 AM
I'm sure they mean well. Everyone's ideas sound great to me.
I wish you guys the best. I hope he has a swift recovery. *hugs*
Flar's Freyja
September 16th, 2002, 11:47 AM
I like Flar's idea and the idea of a prayer well also. When I had back surgery a while back, about 20 people from my son's church came to see me in the hospital and continued to come to the house for a while. It was a Catholic hospital, and the sweetest little priest came in singing and praying.......
As others have said, these people do mean well. It's my own opinion that prayers are prayers, no matter what the path, and I can understand that Rusty really does need to rest and you don't need all those people coming to the house. I still get a visit now and then and usually tell them that I appreciate their stopping by but it's a lousy time.
I'll add Rusty to my prayer list also.
Draven31
September 16th, 2002, 08:16 PM
Thanks everybody:) . If I were here during the day it wouldnt be a problem but I'm not ..Rusty can be too polite sometimes.I'm working on the sign just need to find a way to post on our metal door LOL..
materra
September 16th, 2002, 10:01 PM
magnets.. and a doorknob basket works for me :) or hot glue a sign to a wreath and hang it with an over the door wreath hook.
release tape hangers for posters...good luck.
earthcat
September 16th, 2002, 10:08 PM
A lot of wonderful ideas here.... And good luck with whatever you try.
I too, will pray for health and strength for Rusty and you....
Blessed Be
WandererInGray
September 18th, 2002, 03:46 PM
The note pad is a good idea. *nods*
I'd also suggest passing the word around that people should *call* before they visit.
And honestly, if it gets really bad, call the sherriff's department and tell them that people are trespassing. Rusty needs to make sure not to ask people in though, that kind of voids the trespassing. *shrugs*
*soft smile* For the last few weeks my Grandmother was alive, there was a simply a sign on the door that said "No One But Hospice Admitted" (though family was welcome too, but it was just understood) and a "Close Door Quietly" sign.
When Grandma was still a little mobile and alert, some guy came in the house trying to sell them something. She threated to wallop him with her cane. *giggles*
Grey
September 18th, 2002, 04:49 PM
1) place a 2-foot dog dish out side the front door and place beware of dog signs all over
2) put a note on your door... something like "little jimmies rattlesnake got out. please dont come in its trapped but two people are in the hostpital already
3)Place a large sign up that says "NO TRESSPASSING -FOR ANY REASON ANYONE SEEN ON OUR LAND WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT" then place a shot gun in an outside window
Seriously these work. its kept the jehova witnesses away from some of my friends for two years (#1)
best wishes for you two
Draven31
September 18th, 2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by WandererInGray
When Grandma was still a little mobile and alert, some guy came in the house trying to sell them something. She threated to wallop him with her cane. *giggles* sorry abought your grandmother wanderer .Rusty would love to have a good reason to have a cane.....think of all the kids he could scare... :)
earthcat
September 19th, 2002, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by WandererInGray
When Grandma was still a little mobile and alert, some guy came in the house trying to sell them something. She threated to wallop him with her cane. *giggles*
**tender smile**
Wanderer, that made me remember my Grammy used to do something similar.... She liked to poke people with her 'stick'; and she wasn't fussy who!
Gwion
September 21st, 2002, 07:40 PM
they are easy to make: just 4 plain sticks tied together with cord. Since I put one on my front door, the trap door under the welcome mat hardly ever gets used, and the denizens of the pit grow hungry and discontented, sulking sullenly and gnawing the polished bones of Jehovah's Witnesses from last year.
Draven31
September 23rd, 2002, 03:17 PM
The sign seems to be working...:D thanks everybody.Now I may need to use Gwion suggestion cause the ex wife has found our address and left a lovely pleading note begging Rusty to get in touch with her ...up untill now she only had his work number and called on a fairly regular basis..(sigh)..shes just worried that if something happens to him the money train will stop..I just hope she shows up when I'm here...I can respect the bible people and try not to scare them but her...I dont think so..:evilway: What she has been doing could be considered stalking ..They have been divorced for over 10 years (her choice) she relized she made a mistake and has not left him alone since..sorry just needed to get it off my chest..we have been together for four years now (as of oct 1) and she has been a constant thorn in our side..
WandererInGray
September 23rd, 2002, 04:20 PM
*hugs* Ah, gotta love stalker ex's....:ugh:....give me a PM if you ever need to comisserate Draven. *smiles*
BeachWitch
September 23rd, 2002, 08:46 PM
Hello-
This actually happened to me too, when one of my very good friends who had been keeping a hands-off approach to her new found faith discovered, quite by accident that I had Ovarian Cancer and was bed ridden.
During the actually treatments she kept the Bible Thumping to a minimum and just sat with me in my lucid moments (aka in between morpheine cocktails).
But after the surgery when I announced I had forgone the Chemo/Radiation and was slowly recovering, she and her husband ramped up the conversion campaign.
Finally my husband took her husband aside and told him I had already been baptized, had done the "christian thing" and was burned by some really mean people who used religion as a control technique. He told the husband that what they were doing was an insult not only to me (the patient/pagan) but to our marriage because he is jewish. He said a good friend would NEVER try and use a friendship as a conversion tool, and that the actions they had taken were a testament to the fair-weatherness of their friendship.
Needless to say the campaign stopped. It's sad tho because I really liked some of the people, buttheir friendship was conditional upon my following the christian path instead of the independant free thinking goddess loving path I was/am on.
Good Luck - and I love the idea of the note pad/basket!! It welcomes the do-gooder with out resorting to insulting their feelings. Bravo!!
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