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shadowplain
September 15th, 2002, 09:42 PM
there is a fear deep within my soul. It envelops my mind this fear I feel will enevitably become my reality, and it is my own death. I have been able to control it for a time being. It creeps ever so closer and elusive as my shadow is on a summers day sun in an open sky. The point of this post is to descover the thoughts of my fellow friends in MW and how they may over come such a fear as this...



try to save myself but myself but myself keeps sliping away
NIN

Yvonne Belisle
September 15th, 2002, 09:50 PM
This is a tough one I will light an incense with the hope that the courage to face this without fear is found within you. It is not something I have had to deal with.

LunarSun
September 15th, 2002, 09:57 PM
Having had a near death experience - heart attack -- all I can say is that things become extremely peaceful(near death). Like you, I feared death. However, this experience, for me, seemed to lift that fear.

I am by no means an expert on this subject. Dealing with the "fear of death" is not the beast it used to be. Don't get me wrong - I am not ready to go -I just no longer have the same fear.

Hope in some way this answers your question. :)

MidnightSun
September 15th, 2002, 10:05 PM
LunarSun...same here.
I was terrified of death until I had a NDE during an asthma attack. I was 6 or 7 years old. All I can say is...that what truly scares me now is the thought of not going back to wherever I visited. It was so tranquil.

Psyche Ague
September 16th, 2002, 01:37 AM
I can completely empathize, shadowplain. I, too, have the same heart-stopping (pardon the pun) fear of death. The thought comes out of nowhere and can ruin an entire joyful experience. I have often (for years) lost sleep due to fear and insomnia and not being able to fall into a restful sleep because of the irrational fear. My way of dealing with it? Noise and distraction. If you don't allow yourself to think about it, the fear cannot grip you. If it happens at night, the way it happens to me, then when falling asleep have the TV turned on low or the radio or a favorite, comforting CD. I think in the daytime it's easier to distract yourself from terrifying thoughts like those because you're constantly bombarded with stimuli. But at night, you're left naked and exposed to anything that creeps into your mind.

If you don't want to escape your fearful thoughts, deal with them by writing poetry or prose, writing a song or two, writing a letter to god or the Goddess, talk to someone.

Understand that it happens to everyone and that there are no beginnings without endings. But there are no endings without beginnings. You are never alone.

Tammy Sullivan
September 16th, 2002, 07:08 AM
I would say that you are on your way to conquering this fear, you have turned to face it and that is the first step. My belief is it is ONLY death and since I do believe in the permanence of the soul, the only loss is the body. Fear of death many times comes from a fear that you will be judged.

Amemphis
September 16th, 2002, 07:47 AM
I've never been afraid of death. Without death, there is no life, you know? Its just a process into another form of being to me. And its inevitable. Don't be afraid. Its just death.

Psyche Ague
September 16th, 2002, 10:06 AM
Greta, I don't know so much about being judged as just not existing anymore. I, too, believe in the permanence of the soul (I should - I'm one of the old ones), but still. No longer existing as me is a frightening idea. I think I'm very tied to this life and can't let go.

Tammy Sullivan
September 16th, 2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Psyche Ague
No longer existing as me is a frightening idea. I think I'm very tied to this life and can't let go.
How do you know that what you are NOW is all that you are? How could you exsist as any thing other than you?
In MY beliefs, there are many layers to a person. This life is only one of them. Don't limit what you are.

flar7
September 16th, 2002, 01:33 PM
This is a very real and perplexing problem for almost everyone.
Death. It is always there, and yet we tend to ignore it or fight
it so vehemently that it becomes an obsession. Others fear it so
much that it paralyzes them and they are unable to function.

A medium must be found within yourself. Yes, I may die today, but
I may not. This day is for living, whatever part of it I have left.

I live my life with death as a constant companion, since I have a
chronic illness and have way outlived my expected expiration date.
My illness is usually known as a childhood killer, and yet I have
made it to my late 30's. I plan to live even longer. How? By not
giving up and not giving in. As long as you or I live, there is hope.
Hope for things to do, be done, joys and sorrows, and making a
difference somewhere in the world or another's life.

If you concentrate on living and doing, I mean really work at it, then
death will have less of a hold upon you. Sure it will return at inconvenient times
(is there ever a convenient time?) but you just go on past that
moment and see what the next moment has to offer.

Try not to worry about hastening your own death by thinking on it,
just live and let death take care of itself.....it certainly doesnt need
help.

I wish you peace of mind and comfort of the soul that these fears
may leave you unscarred and tempered as steel.

Nina
September 16th, 2002, 01:38 PM
Flar, that is beautiful.

Your courage and strength is inspirational. Your (admittedly warped) humour a joy.

May you far outlive your sell-by date.

((((HUGS)))) for making me feel better, and if you've made me feel better, just think what you've done for everyone else.

OK, I'll stop now, before your head swells far too much and you are stuck in this site forever...!!!

Psyche Ague
September 16th, 2002, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Greta

How do you know that what you are NOW is all that you are? How could you exsist as any thing other than you?
In MY beliefs, there are many layers to a person. This life is only one of them. Don't limit what you are.

Aye, I agree that what I am now is but one of my many many lives. If I had my way, I'd reincarnate as a beautiful tree by a river. But that's beside the point. Would I still be me? I know I would have my soul, but would my essense and life force and personality still be the same? And what if I'm completely wrong? What if there is nothing? I guess I wouldn't care, but I really do care right now. Ah...so many questions. Guess I'll have to wait and see for myself! ;)

Tammy Sullivan
September 16th, 2002, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Psyche Ague


Would I still be me? I know I would have my soul, but would my essense and life force and personality still be the same? And what if I'm completely wrong? What if there is nothing? I guess I wouldn't care, but I really do care right now. ;)


IMHO you will always be you, but there is much more to you than what you percieve in this life. So, while you would not be completely the same, you would not be completely different either. And if you are wrong and there is nothing, then what difference will it make? ;)

And to Flar, Your an inspiration. Your online personality is always so sunny and bright, I had no idea you had an illness. Tippin' my hat to you.

Djiril
September 16th, 2002, 06:06 PM
I usually think about life after death in relation to the other end, life before birth. You were there already, but people don't seem to think about that as much.

LunarSun
September 16th, 2002, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by flar7
I plan to live even longer. How? By not
giving up and not giving in. As long as you or I live, there is hope.
Hope for things to do, be done, joys and sorrows, and making a
difference somewhere in the world or another's life.




Now thats the spirit!! My thoughts exactly!! :)

shadowplain
September 16th, 2002, 10:13 PM
i want to thank you all. i dont know if you can realize how much you have helped me out. i fell that i have a different perspective on things. yes i will die one day but i souldent let it hinder me from loving and living for the time that i do have even though i dont know how long it is.

thank you all and i sind it with love eternally