I ponder on these religious questions MY own interpretation!

[lady rain]

Here is some things that I am confused about many various religions out there. Please give me your feed back weither you like it or not.

If God created the universe then why is only certain things kosher? If he is all around us then why isn't everything already blessed? To all the Jews out there like my parents.

OK Why is it that Christmas a Christian holiday? Jesus was born Jewish they celibrate his birth when he was a Jew??
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Also isn't Passover related to The last super?

If ask a good one, If a nun is married to God where is the ring? Is there one?

IF god is all around us why is this world so bad?

This is my take in my personal opinion It doesn't matter what religion you beleive in bec you were born on this earth and if a big comet decided to crash here we are all dead no matter what all the praying will not save you.
Save the earth while its here stop distroying it with everything else man distroyed lately.

Sorry if I made people mad but It just makes you think a little.
I am a witch and proud to be one this helps me cope with life, there are no lies or fake things in this practice we don't have a bible which we sin if we don't know it. We live with nature not against it thats what I love. The energy you put out is the law a nature negative only hurts you so think positive thanks

Blessed be Lady Rain
In hell around the fires fishing for aligators

[Earth Walker]

If god made people to speak different languages at the
Tower of Babel, then why did he allow us to be able to
translate and understand these languages? :confused:

If Adam was in the Garden of Eden(believed to have been in
present day Iraq), and he named the animals there; then how
did he get to all the other places in the world?
By walking or swimming? Oh, sure! :rolleyes: :p


Why fear ye the Dark Queen, oh men?
She is your renewer.
--Dion Fortune

[Zygomatica]

I thought nuns did get a ring to symbolize their "marriage"
:confused:

[sherry]

Originally posted by Zygomatica
I thought nuns did get a ring to symbolize their "marriage"
:confused:

AH HA I know this one Nuns do have a ring they all look the same.
I have been working at a monestary as an agency nurse for the last week and all the residents are nuns and priests. They all have a simple gold band with a word written on them not sure what it says but I'm sure it is probably latin.

And yes it does give a pagan wierd feelings to be around that many of them at the same time!! But this place is really cool
love old buildings and definatly has energy in this place

[Tigerwallah]

Ok, here's one my mother brought up. On the first day, God makes light right? On the second day he makes darkness and seperates it from the light. So, It isn't until like the 4th day or so that he makes the sun. So If there was light already, why did he need to make a sun? Or if the sun is the source of light (duh) how was there light on the first day if there was no sun until the 4th?

[Elaine]

this is the reason I was drawn to Wicca...we can sit here and ask these questions until we're all blue in the face......it is all very confusing...I never understood the whole thing about Christmas with Jesus being Jewish either....and how is there a hell if God is all forgiving...and how is Catholicism "the only true way" when there were many religions around long before Jesus!!! There are all of these questions that, as Catholics, we are taught, you will never get the answers to...they're mystery's ...and they are meant to be that way...We're just supposed to forget all of our questions and just keep believing....just because that's what we're taught....

growing up in 12 years of catholic school I can say that the nuns do wear a gold band...and also...there are different kinds of nuns...different groups...and they usually wear a necklace as well to show which one they are....ie the sisters of saint joseph and the sacred heart nuns....(those are the 2 groups I grew up around!!)

[Vinga]

Originally posted by lady rain
OK Why is it that Christmas a Christian holiday? Jesus was born Jewish they celibrate his birth when he was a Jew??
ok

...and I've heard Jesus was really born in October

[Elaine]

I've heard that too Vinga...actually...there is an astronomy show at this science center in Colombus Ohio that talks about how a lot of the dates and such are off...and it tells you what makes them think they're off....it all made sense to me when I was listening to it....now I don't remember any of it....I wish I wrote the stuff down like I had wanted to....I have a bad memory for certain things....

[richardcranium]

I think that the dates of this person they call Jesus is off because of a pope that redid the calender into the calender we use to day. I think it was pope Gregory due to the Gregorian calender. Anyway I am not sure why he did it but I am pretty sure it messed up a lot of dates on the calender.

[Vinga]

Well one very common theory is because waaay back when, when the barbaric parts of Europe were being Christianed, the pagans celebrated winter solstice or winter blot in December, and old habits die hard. So to get the heathens to give up their old traditions for the new faith, they had to schedule their holidays on the old tradition's sabbaths (note Christmas isn't the only Christian holiday that 'coincidently' occur at the same time as a pagan sabbath).

[richardcranium]

I think think they just want to be cool like us!

[LaDaya]

According to most historians and people way smarter than me... :-) Jesus was born in the spring time around March or April. But no one can really agree on the date. I've heard that Christmas, Easter, and Halloween were all originally pagan holidays that the Pagans refused to give up and the Christian church incorporated them into Christianity to make the heathens more "saveable".

Passover is the feast celebrated for the last night the Children of God were in Egypt. The first born of every family that did not have the blood of a lamb on the doorposts died when the Angel of Death passed over. So after that there was a feast each year to celebrate that they were passed over and were set free... (this is according to the bible... I don't know if there is non-Christian history to this or not...)

The last supper was Jesus's last meal with his disciples before his death. And depending on the religion can be celebrated the Friday before Easter or is celebrated on other days... Flesh of my Flesh, Blood of my Blood stuff..

Here's another question for you... If everyone is brothers and sisters in Christ then aren't you committing incest by marrying anyone of them (for those that are Christian)???

Second, why would God make it impossible for us to be sinfree.... If it is such a requirement for us to be spotless why would the mistake of two people thousands of years ago condemn the billions and trillions of people not even born yet... If everyone is supposed to have free will why not have it where each person has to choose whether they will have sin in their lives? And another thing... not everyone hears the "Gospel of Christ" so why are they going to go to hell for not ever knowing anything about it?

If God is all powerful, etc..etc.. why doesn't he change things... I mean there are people that are worshipping him and devote their entire lives to him but their lives are crap... Which was the way mine was when I was Christian.... Now that I'm not... the quality of my life is more than 1000 times better... If you were a God wouldn't you want to make it where your followers wanted to follow you? Or at least have loyalty to you?

Okay.. I've rambled on long enough... I better shut up before I get myself into trouble.

[Earth Walker]

Originally posted by Vinga
Well one very common theory is because waaay back when, when the barbaric parts of Europe were being Christianed, the pagans celebrated winter solstice or winter blot in December, and old habits die hard. So to get the heathens to give up their old traditions for the new faith, they had to schedule their holidays on the old tradition's sabbaths (note Christmas isn't the only Christian holiday that 'coincidently' occur at the same time as a pagan sabbath).

The christmas celebrated by christians is nothing more than a
derivation of a Druid festival, and the Roman Saturnalia.....


Why fear ye the Dark Queen, oh men?
She is your renewer.
--Dion Fortune

[Amethyst Rose]

Originally posted by LaDaya
And another thing... not everyone hears the "Gospel of Christ" so why are they going to go to hell for not ever knowing anything about it?


I believe somewhere it says something (I'm really stretching my memory here), that if a person has heard the word of God (ie, the Bible), and they choose not to follow, then they go to hell. But if they remain ignorant, then it's not their fault and they can be saved.... I think this was the reason why missionaries were sent to teach native peoples all over the world....

[Emy]

Well and some actually say that Jesus was born in the spring, because of the shepards that came, well it had something to do with the lambing season (is it called that?, it's not always easy having swedish for your first language and then discussing in english... )

Anyway I am sure that the reason we celebrate christmas around the winter solstice is because the heathens already celebrated their winterblot/winter solstice at that time and of course it was easier for the christians to get the heathens to take on their new traditions if you sort of combined them at first, so at least in sweden when the christians came, the vikings just decided to drink a toast to that god aswell...
When they had travelled all around they had often met with other cultures and in other countries they sort of accepted their traditions when in that country, maybe that's why they so easily accepted to toast the christian god aswell at their winter blot. And as for the poor, if you became a christian and got baptised you would get some new clothes and that of course attracted some people... then they did not always follow the christian tradition at first, but some gradually adapted and sort of converted...

Well, thats what I've been told when I studied religion at the university... =)

B*B

[Tigerwallah]

Originally posted by Amethyst Rose


I believe somewhere it says something (I'm really stretching my memory here), that if a person has heard the word of God (ie, the Bible), and they choose not to follow, then they go to hell. But if they remain ignorant, then it's not their fault and they can be saved.... I think this was the reason why missionaries were sent to teach native peoples all over the world....

Well, then it's a damn good thing that I don't believe there is a hell. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "If Your Living Like There is No God, You'd Better Be Right."

[lady rain]

Hi again well thank you all for posting
here is one i forgot to give you all a good one


IF jews and christains beleive in the same god suposed why do some branchs of christainity beleive Jesus was the lord not a real god? Then there is more than one god then.

Why is there only 1 rabbi and a priest, nun, montesor, pope, arch bishops, bishops and other. Sorry for spelling lazy any please help this age old question.


Let all of us start scholarship programs, awarness, and anyother form of spreading this practice, why do we have to hide it from others especially society.

Well I wonder if you go to court and you were satanic I wonder if you oath on a satanic bible? I wonder what we would oath on? Our own interpretations of the religion? A question that I would really like anwsered.

thanks for listening to my views as a witch for serveral years I still hide my religion to family, some friends, and teachers ex.

Please express you feelings! Blessed be Lady Rain

[Elaine]

that's a really good question lady rain...I never thought of that before...if people do not believe in the bible what good is it for them to swear on it?? What would people swear on....(I'd be really confused ...I'd have like half of the Bible and like half of my book of shadows or something!!) :D does anyone have any thoughts on this...maybe this should be a new thread instead of tacking it onto this one....I don't know...but this is a really intriguing question!!:confused:

[Yvonne Belisle]

Can you imagine how many religious texts they would have to stock at court if every view was covered?!?!?!?!?!?! You would need an extra building! They would need advanced notice so they could have the right text on hand for each case. You would have pandimonium with people saying that they didn't believe the witness or defendant because they swore on something evil. What a nightmare! So when do we start? :eek:

[Elaine]

I guess they really couldn't get into all of that...but it doesn't make sense...if you don't believe in the Bible...and they make you swear on it.... that oath means nothing to you.....I wonder if they could make something (for lack of a better term) generic for everyone...that just says you swear on all you believe in whatever your religion may be....rather than having a different text for every religion......

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by Amethyst Rose


...that if a person has heard the word of God (ie, the Bible), and they choose not to follow, then they go to hell. But if they remain ignorant, then it's not their fault and they can be saved....

I too have heard this many times and it makes me think...

...if the Christians would have just kept their mouths shut, we could have all gone to Heaven.

~ew

[Elaine]

:D hehehehe....you are so right eaglewolf!! hehehe:) rofl:)

[Yvonne Belisle]

EW long time no see!! Welcome back!

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
EW long time no see!! Welcome back!
Thanks Yvonne!

It is good to see everyone keeping the site alive.

I hope to have the opportunity to hang out with all of you a little more often.

~ew

[Tigerwallah]

Why does everyone lose or destroy the only evidence of the existence of God? Moses smashed the tablets that the 10 commandments were written on, and Joseph Smith lost the golden tablets given to him, by the angel Moroni, almost immediatly after receiveing them. No other human saw them. Could that be because these items never existed?

[Yvonne Belisle]

Perhaps they existed in the hearts of the men who wrote them. It's what has been done with the ideas since then that gets to me.

[Elaine]

You could have something there Tigerwallah....I was taught in highschool not to take everything in the Bible literally so maybe, with the Moses thing, it was supposed to be more of a "this is how I want you to live so here is this story" type of thing instead of there actually being tablets with the commandments on them...