Stones for Rape recovery

[lightdragon]

ok. this is one of the few subjects that are rarely talked about. granted it is a grim subject matter. but in some cases a necessary one. So if anyone had this problem or knows someone who is going through this problem. this could be helpful. also if you or someone you know used stones in the healing process, i would like you to post it. also you do not have to have to talk about the person or the ordeal, just the healing.

i will start by giving some stones from The women's book of healing by Diane Stein it was initially published by Llewellyn. now it's by by Ten speed press
ISBN-10: 1580911560
ISBN-13: 978-1580911566


black tourmaline
chrysocolla
lapis lazuli

[Solya]

Rose quartz or the gentler lavender quartz are my recommendations for when one is already healing from such an ordeal. :) They can be quite confrontational at such a time, which is why you should never wear them too long in the beginning or start out with the other stones stated in the post above, but they work wonders when allowed to.

[Tanya]

personally... I found earth....

as it reminds there IS no such thing as dirty.. not outside anyway... it is the meaning we put on things... and at least for me it meant I controlled the meaning of any event in my life.. and I make it positive or negative....

frankly... for me it was a momment when I decided to trust in and engage in life .. despite the random assholes that might come into it... hading wasn't an option...

anyway.. that's my insanity... I'm not going to live afraid.. and dirt gave me that.

[CzechWoods]

i will post more on the subject in the future.

anyway.

Rosequartz (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/rosequartzrosenquarz.msnw) is a very difficult stone in this situation and shouldnt be used exceedingly. It is true that it mends emotional fractions, but incest and rape are far more than your everyd ays broken heart. Rosequartz also sets up the pink glasses, and makes you feel all fuzzy, which s not what you need after incest/rape that much. you need a clear mind and no clouding even no positive one, so you can fully recover

DIOPSIDE
should be one major helper in any form of sexual abuse recovery. It too mends the heart but will not allow you to fall in some - must love my predator crap -

TOURMALINE (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw):

green tourmaline
a must have. no way around.

additionally: red tourmaline (or pink)/rubelite if the father is part of the problem you are recovering from, or a father-like figure
blue tourmaline/indigolite if the person i.question is mother/mother-like figure

if the trauma makes itself noticable through ulcers or tumors, or if the memory of the incident is clouded/obscure - WATERMELON TOURMALINE

BLACK TOURMALINE SCHOERL
(http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)to be used to learn to set boarders and have them respected. to not repeat behavior patterns that make it easy for the predators to victimize you. to find rest at nights

CHRYSOKOLLA (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/chrysokolla.msnw)
teaches you to say no, when NO is needed. restaures emotional security and a natural shield against aggressions (stregthens the thyroid gland too, also against hashimoto disorder that can result from massive abuse trauma)
it also heals the nerval ends, that through such trauma often can "break apart" - followingly invoking grave disorders like Fibromyalgy, MS, etc)

if you feel attracted to emeralds, better refrain from using them and instead use the copper mineral DIOPTASE. a great heart and emotional healer that will not make you accept responsility for the well fare of everyone including your predator

if you feel attracted to Rosequartz, substitute it by PETALITE (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/petalite.msnw). Its similar to rosequartz in healing capacities, yet sans the pink glasses filter.


ther is a lot mor to say, and i will, but that should be it for now.


:fpraise: lightdragon for this excellent and much needed topic


eta:
attached pics show:
~ dioptside, rough: solid pieces from brazil; green variety of diopside
~ dioptase, rough on matrix from kazachstan. green crystals (aka copper-emeralds)
~ petalite, tumbled stones [substitute for rosequartz]

[CzechWoods]

i will, when i am done posting give a rough schedule of what stones in what stage o be used.

the tourmaline and dioside are the base.

later i will also cover the reclaiming a sane sexuality topic

[CzechWoods]

guides. please sticky this utmost important thread.

ty

[sleeping]

i think that i would recommend amethyst, for its calming qualities, and just the general way that it 'buzzes'.
i wouldn't say to use it too extensively, especially if the particular stone feels very potent.

Moonstone first came to mind also, because it calms and soothes in a smoother, gentler way than some other stones which have similar properties. it usually also has very feminine energies, and if the recovering person were female, this might help to calm them. i think it could also be used in place of rose quartz if it proved too intense at times.

Garnet could be used for a feeling of protection when other stones might be too much for the situation, though perhaps sparingly.

i'm not so sure about using garnet and amethyst at once, though, i wouldn't personally recommend it, though, garnet and moonstone may be alright.

i agree with LightDragon, also, on Lapis Lazuli, but i think it would also depend on the person, whether they were particularly attracted to or sent away by the stone. i found personally that its a stone which someone either loves, loves from afar, or cannot be near at all.
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Czech, i like your suggestions of the different colours of tourmaline, those would be very very helpful to someone.


personally... I found earth....

as it reminds there IS no such thing as dirty.. not outside anyway... it is the meaning we put on things... and at least for me it meant I controlled the meaning of any event in my life.. and I make it positive or negative....

frankly... for me it was a momment when I decided to trust in and engage in life .. despite the random assholes that might come into it... hading wasn't an option...

anyway.. that's my insanity... I'm not going to live afraid.. and dirt gave me that.i really liked this, Tanya. its so simple, but its also so obvious, in a way. its a wonderful suggestion..

[Kaylara]

Can I just point out that you shouldn't be relying solely on stones and crystals to recover from rape. You should really seek professional help, or a rape support group as well.

[sleeping]

Can I just point out that you shouldn't be relying solely on stones and crystals to recover from rape. You should really seek professional help, or a rape support group as well.

i agree with this also. .
if you haven't as it is, please try to find a good, understanding professional to talk with..

[CzechWoods]

Can I just point out that you shouldn't be relying solely on stones and crystals to recover from rape. You should really seek professional help, or a rape support group as well.

and i thought the title of the thread and its position within a crytsal forum would be clear. sheesh. how wrong was i?

its not like there is an ad saying... only posible way to recover from rape etc

[CzechWoods]

self esteem

after molestation/rape, self esteem is a serious issue.

to restore self esteem the 3rd chakra needs special attention. therefore yellow stones are the ones to help you out.

citrine (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/citrinezitrin.msnw)
anti depressions stone, can even battle suicidal tendencies, boosts self esteem and self love, helps you to get independant and free, both in mind and spirit.

yet, the most importan thing about citrine is you must get natural citrine, not the burnt amethyst variety that is often sold as citrine, which i choose to call zitrine for clear distinguishing

zitrine is one f the few stones, that shozuldnt be used in healings. it can inflit depressions, and you dont want to go there especially after rape/melestation. if in doubt, substitute citrine, so you dont carry the risk of getting the depressions causing zirine variety

honey comb calcite (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/calcite.msnw)
the honey coloured, best transparent/translucent qualities (mainly from mexico) are the best choise when replacing citrine. additionally to citrines anti depressive powers, it also stabilizes you, ike giving you a (new) scelletton/structure. honey calcite is not only a self esteem booster but also a strong comforter; the veritable shoulder to lean on.

both citrine and honey calcite give you a warmth. not nly emotionally but also on the body level. many rape/molestation/icest survivors will suffer from feeling cold easily. these two stones help you to warm up inside, and thus overcome this cold feeing inside. both stones help battle against nightmares and diffuse fears

ametrine (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/ametrine.msnw)
natural mix of amethys and citrine. main recources are brazil, bolivia and adagascar though it also appears in namibia, south africa and other regions
ametrine is a stone against manic depressions and bi-polar dissorders. the citrine part teaches you the importance of yourself, your uniqueness and helps you out of depressions while the amethyst part teaches you to feel as part of the all, of niverse, restoring your connection to the devine. it will cool off manic attacks, teaching you humbleness without humiliation

chrysoprase and lemmon chrysprase (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/chalcedon2family.msnw)
the apple green chrysoprase is a soft, tender but efficiant healer of low self esteem an depression issues. its rather incomplicated. helping you to see beauty in life, opening new pathways towards hapiness, towards the everydays miracles. it is like a summmerlands stone, the green pastues. nourishing, creating artisanship and creativity, imagination and the will to heal from within to without. it will help you to transform the trauma into a new level of living, of not being defined by the attrocities you went through (or that were done upon you) but to let lifes beauty transcendent you towards inner peace and (self)love.
it is a stone for the solar plexus , the heart chakra and the chakras in between

lemmon chrysoprase has a clearer tendency towards the manipura chakra (3) and additionally boosts the metabolism. As it consists in geat parts of nickel and magnesite, it will help detox your body on the material level as well as helping to dehydrate of too much water in your system. - weight/overweight issues are often consequences of sexual assault, the body building its own shield against prossecution.

Amber (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/amberbernstein.msnw)and Copal
should only be used in an advanced stage of rape/incest recovery. it does help a great deal with joints and bones troubles and infections - all of which can result from abuse - but, amber will help to gett ridd of old topics, also by manifesting hem in your memory and mind. This can be a very traumatic event in the process of recovery and throw you back for years. so amber, too, is a difficult stone to use in the first 3 stages (of 4) of overcoming rape etc.

I will continue elaborating these opics soon.
next on ym list are the 3 - 4 / 4 - 3 ch. stones such as:
peridot
prehnite
precious serpentine (aka 'new ''jade''')
as well as
yellow australian agate (a rare find)
dyed green agate
tree agate (latter of which is ch. 4 mainly)

[Clair de la Lune]

Rape is something that the recovery period can take an entire lifetime. I am glad to have the option of other avenues to try other than counseling which I have already tried before. Thanks for bringing up this topic thread, and thanks for contributing to it. I look forward to trying out these things too when there is instruction with it and I can find the stones.

[lightdragon]

and i thought the title of the thread and its position within a crytsal forum would be clear. sheesh. how wrong was i?

its not like there is an ad saying... only posible way to recover from rape etc

believe it or not some people will only use the crystals or say that was the intent of this thread. I should have been more specific in stating that these stones are to help in the healing, Not as a sole healer or/and what stones (if used) were helpful in the healing.

[kotu]

rhodochrosite?

[Wolfsong]

rhodochrosite?
I'm an oddball when it comes to rhodochrosite.... for me one of it's main uses (at least the dark red crystals) is in what some would refer to as "dark magick". I dont believe in the concept of dark/light, good/evil or any other such human concepts so for me everything is fair game as long as it falls within what I consider to be the laws of nature. For me this stone would come into play in this situation but as an offensive energy directed at the perpetrator and not as an energy to help the victum... again... this is " just MY opinion".

[CzechWoods]

rhodochrosite?

rhodochrosite is a very good stone, i will comment on it further in a later post. :thumbsup:


I'm an oddball when it comes to rhodochrosite.... for me one of it's main uses (at least the dark red crystals) is in what some would refer to as "dark magick". I dont believe in the concept of dark/light, good/evil or any other such human concepts so for me everything is fair game as long as it falls within what I consider to be the laws of nature. For me this stone would come into play in this situation but as an offensive energy directed at the perpetrator and not as an energy to help the victum... again... this is " just MY opinion".


how very interesting. i have only had 3 pieces of this stone variety, as you can see in my banner. one of them was stolen grrrr. i know the person who stole is died of intestinal cancer meanwhile so your input is very well possible.

i believe that sometimes the described haunting the molestor would be of utmost help to many and one victims, you know :uhhuhuh:

My references to rhodochrosite in the further posts will be on the common varieties (light/dark pink) though.

thanks for this precious info wolfsong

[Wolfsong]

rhodochrosite is a very good stone, i will comment on it further in a later post. :thumbsup:




how very interesting. i have only had 3 pieces of this stone variety, as you can see in my banner. one of them was stolen grrrr. i know the person who stole is died of intestinal cancer meanwhile so your input is very well possible.

i believe that sometimes the described haunting the molestor would be of utmost help to many and one victims, you know :uhhuhuh:

My references to rhodochrosite in the further posts will be on the common varieties (light/dark pink) though.

thanks for this precious info wolfsong

A few years after I started working with this stone and several years after I came to the above conclusion I came across an obscure reference to the deep red crystals while I was reading a book on Aztec/Toltec culture. The deep red color to them was a sign of blood and was used in many ways... to help appease the gods during sacrifices and to capture and hold the spirit (believed by some to be within the blood) of the individual sacrificed which the priest could use in the future for his/her own bidding if needed.

Not going into it too deeply but my interpretation of the energies vary from the above slightly but still follow the general theme of banishment, captive, and sacrifice... not a stone to be taken lightly when working with it in the above ways....

Your story, in a round-about way, kinda adds fuel to this train of thought Czech.

Now.... that being said... the energies mentioned above are serious and there is no room here for "playing". Reprocussions can, and sometimes are severe. Actually.. it is something I rarely talk about... there are a few more stones which fall into this grouping. Individuals need to think long and hard before even contemplating travelling this path.

[CzechWoods]

A few years after I started working with this stone and several years after I came to the above conclusion I came across an obscure reference to the deep red crystals while I was reading a book on Aztec/Toltec culture. The deep red color to them was a sign of blood and was used in many ways... to help appease the gods during sacrifices and to capture and hold the spirit (believed by some to be within the blood) of the individual sacrificed which the priest could use in the future for his/her own bidding if needed.

Not going into it too deeply but my interpretation of the energies vary from the above slightly but still follow the general theme of banishment, captive, and sacrifice... not a stone to be taken lightly when working with it in the above ways....

Your story, in a round-about way, kinda adds fuel to this train of thought Czech.

Now.... that being said... the energies mentioned above are serious and there is no room here for "playing". Reprocussions can, and sometimes are severe. Actually.. it is something I rarely talk about... there are a few more stones which fall into this grouping. Individuals need to think long and hard before even contemplating travelling this path.

amen to that. very wise words spoken, wolfsong.

[CzechWoods]

the negativity that comes into your life after and through the rape/molestation is obviously enourmous. its a matter of fact, that this negativity has its place. but the oison derriving from it can cause you more harm in the long run, than good.

therefore dealing with and ridding of the negativity is such an important part in the recovery process. the stones discussed in the following might be helpful supporting these processes.

before working with light, first try to wear off the dark


Onyx (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/onyx.msnw). natural greyish back onyx
Onyx is like a grounding stone for negativity overfow. many people using onyx will say, that it brings them down. and it is true, that is exactly what onyx is about. so if you dont have a need for onyx, many people will feel like this stone is a downer. a rape survivor on the other hand has such a negativity overflow, that onyx will be a good way to rid that surplus off quite effectively. additionally, onyx is a very good stone to set and keep borders, something that is sorely needed after such a violent act against the victims integrity


Sardonyx (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/chalcedonfamily4.msnw). natural mix of sarder and onyx; black and white or brown-black-white (pic attached)
apart from its capabilities to heal Tinitus, Sardonyx is a very effective stone in bringing forth the truth, especially in legal things. this comes handy when you know the predator and want to bring them to justice. Sardonyx is a strong protector stone, that too will ground negativity. It will also help restoring your sexuality - so the effects of abuse will not dictate all of your life

Fortress Agate
even more terrible than the sexual act within a rape is the feeling of woundability and helplessness, the loss of trust etc. A very effective stone to restore your capability of trust and overcome your helplessness is an agate variety, the so called fortress agate. as the name inclines, it helps you to build up a fortress around yourself, a place where you can feel safe and where you indeed are safe. It gives you the strength to redefine yourself by your own actions and talents, rather than being or becoming dependent by outside praise and approval - or even worse - by the predators judgements. Fortress agates arent over expensive and very common. Its rather the knowledge about these stones, that is missing within the community of stone lovers and dealers. most oreo agates from brazil, the so called fairy gardens or lucky geodes are in fact fortress agates.
fortress agates also help you ground negativity and to redirect negativity that is foully brought upon you to mother earth; Mother Earth does so know how to treat people who send out negativity without eason or need....

(Dyed) Slized Agates (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/agate2dyedachat2.msnw)
like fortress agates, the agate slizes are a very effective ool to ward off negativity sent upon you from outside.
brazilian agate is often colour enhanced/dyed. but in treating the aftermath of rape, these otherwise often looked bad upon dying methods come in handy.
green and pink dyed agate slizes will help restore your heart chakra from the assault. thus you can build p a solid and unbroken emotional life, with giving and receiving love
blue dyed agate slizes help your third eye, in recovering from the assault, so that you may learn to forgive yourself you had been victimized and that your foresight/instincts/intuition had "failed" you

allways remember, the guilt is with the aggressor, not with the victim. you ahve NOT eserved tis, you have NOT earned this, you have NOT provoked this, you have not attracted this. this is in NO WAY YOUR FAULT

purple dyed agate slizes will help you restore a stable faith, a solid connection to the Universe/Devine. This way the aggressor will be made to fail with their wish to cut you from spiritual/Devine help. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. GODS HAVE NOT FORESAKEN YOU AND EVEN LESS PUNISHED YOU. there is no need and nothing to be gained from losing faith. these agates teach you to restore this connection to the devine with solid ground and the assurance that Universe/Devine is part of you and you are part of Universe/Devine - in spite of what you have suffered

purple and pink dyed agates are rather rare, green and blue are much more common. should you need any of those or the fortress agates (or any other stones mentioned here) simply contact me at info@steinelfe.de i will see to it, so you get your stones as well

Red Dyed/Color Enhanced/Burnt Agate not to be mistaken with carnelian !
This dyed agate variety is a very strong helper, to just keep going. Sometimes surviving alone is the chalenge and an act of courage. But most rape survivors feel - obviously and for good reason - like they are sucked dry, suffering from fatigue and lethargy or even apathy. The Red Dyed Agate will oppose this. it gives you energy galore. It helps you to recreate the willpower to go on, to not mind what obstacles might arise. It will give you horsepower and very effectively too. Get up. Go on. Be Strong. Carry on. Go for it. You can do it. We will make it. You will make it ! Thats the spirit f red agate. The fire is within YOU


Peace Agate (white agate) (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/achatagate5weisswhite.msnw)
As the name sais, peace agate helps restoring peace within. It is one of he strongest comforting stones, it is one of he columns in treating of childeren battling multiple spirits disorders that too may be - but need not to - be a consequence of abuse/rape; such as ADD, Aspergy/Autism etc.
Drinking water from peace agate, as well as using peace agate water to clean your body off of the filth of the rapists is greatly suggested and will give you a very much different feeling for yourself


Black Tourmaline/Schoerl (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)
as stated in former posts. This stone will help a great deal. Imagine yur aura field was a field in the countryside wth a fruit tree on it. in a perfect world, no-one would steal your fruit. maybe someone would ass by, and take a few fruit, but they would leave an offering in exchange and most probably one of more value than that which they have taken. but a rape survivor knows this is not the perfect world. Rape Survivors have learned that some people will simply vandalize your field, burn down the tree just for their own twisted pleasure, that they will burn and devastate your field, regardless of right and wrong and get off at it even.
therefore you need the black tourmaline schoerl, a stone tha would be like a fierceful guardian dog and an electrically charged barbed wire fence in the same time ! now, a possible intruder has to first overcome the fence, which isnt all tha easy anyway - and in doing so admits to be an intruder anyway, and than, if the fence fails, the guardian dog will either attack the intruder, in oderer to killing them or at least stop them, or - if all fails - to warn you from a possible danger.
Black Tourmaline cannot protect you from rape - dont get me wrong, and read what i say. But it will help you to defend your aura shield and thus o heal, instead of becoming a vctim in all realms repeatedly and thus really destroying your core of existance.
therefore black schoer tourmaline, preferably a double ending crystal is of such utmost importance in the recovery after sexual assault/rape/molestation and vampirism. period

smokey quartz & morion (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/smokeyquartzrauchquarz.msnw)
morion = very dark smokey quartz. make sure you have natural stones and not artificially radiated ones. if you are offered smokey quartz from arkansas beware. most of that material is altered by radiation inflicted by man

Smokey quartz helps you to understand the ununderstandable, to get a grip n that which is more than you can handle. It is also a stone that will slowly dissolve negativity, especially the kind that is stuck in the 2nd chakra, where we understand our place in society or other important groups. Rape destroys any natural feeling of belonging, fitting and knowing what is best for you weithin groups of people. rape victims often are looked upon as sociophobes, anti-socials or "strange", while in fact they have to deal with one of the worst atrocities (if mot the worst) in humans and are even blamed for not coping right. Its like a punishment after the suffering. Smokey quartz helps you to resove, dissolve that which is way too much to handle. Liek a friendly janitor, who is showing you around in a theater, making you understand, that the thunder and lightnings are not true, but just a man made illusion, tha the horrifying beings on stage maybe are just very nice people who wear a mask and in a play. who will show you the lies, the illusions and often even the real villains. But still holding your hand, not overwhelming you, and standing by your side whenever you halt, thinking you cant go on.

attached pictures:
~ natural + dyed agate as windchims in popular colours: red, green, blue
~ blue dyed and natural fortress agate; with clock
~ dyed agate; tumbled pieces ncluding red, purple and pink varieties

[CzechWoods]

(so much for now, i will post on later again. this is very trying to me. although it is my everydays life 'job' and i am doing consultings and survivor/recovery help - i am also the survivor myself and thus dealing with this matter is no easy task for me. hank you for your unsderstanding)

[CzechWoods]

Sometimes even to live is an act of courage.
****
Seneca


its not a stone, but it so well fits this opic, had to post it here as well

[CzechWoods]

self esteem

after molestation/rape, self esteem is a serious issue.

the Chakra 3 - 4 / 4 - 3 stones

peridot aka chrisolite aka olivine (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/peridot.msnw)
peridot most often is used for the fine (jewelry) chrystals, while olivine refers to the rough material, for example found in auvergne, france or lanzarote , spain which are consisiting of tiniest crystal masses. chrysolite refers to both. any form can be used for healings as decribd in this thread
Chrisolite (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/peridot.msnw)is a seemingly tender yet very powerful healer of the 3-4-3 chakra region, connecting love and self love. this stne will also help you to get past troubles with your parents, both mother and father. it reinsttalls your inner sun, your strength to shine on, indeppendently from whatever bad feeling your parents may have (tried to) installed within. Peridot makes you feel good about yourself. It explains you how precious you are in fact. How important you are in the universe. that no-one has the right ever to wak upon you. Peridot is a great comfoter too, listening to your sorrow and helping you to transform it into strength to carry on. Peridot also powers up/recharges your inner battery so you dont feel drained and energy-dried - it helps against fatigue, lethargy, apathy and CF syndrome

prehnite - comes mostly from india (green) and australia (green to yellow) - some finds are also in south africa
Prehnite, will help in the chakra 4-3 region; alike peridot restoring love and self love. It can help you boost your self esteem, the dep understanding of how your love is a very important power source.
Many people suffer from obesity, due to a rape/molestation event; the fat built up as a double sides shield. On the one hand the layers to protect you from harm, on the other hand a way becomng "ugly" = nattractive , possibly untouchable. But too much fat of course imposes great health issues and problems for the body: blood cholesterol, blood pressure, heart diseases, the bones and joints etc suffer with you., in the long run, this strategy forms against yourself - and you have little to no gain from obesity. Prehnite is the antidote here, working against both sides of the wrong shield: asuring you of your attraction (that is NEVER connected to attraction of rape etc) and by firing up your metabolism and fat burning capabilities. Prehnite additionally is a good stone to help yourself be protected from skin demage through the sun - but please do still use sun-blockers with it !

precious serpentine (aka 'new ''jade''') (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/serpentinenewjadeserpentinneuejade.msnw) - the term new jade is confusing. because precious serpentine looks alot like a form of jade, this name has been attached to it, as a trade name. but it is not jade. nontheless its a very powerful healing stone, and needs not to be looked down upon
Precious Serpentine is a strong detox stone. It will help your body to detox from toxins, also those from medication use or even drug abuse. These issues often accompany the victims and suvivors of molestation, and therefore a detoxing of your system is inevitable and necessary for any healing. Additionally the molestation act itself is a poison to your system that needs to be faced and made go away. Precious Sepentine is also connected o the chakras 3 & 4, thats why this stone is more recommeded than its silbling serpentine, a darker green variety that conects to the heart chakra mainly. In addition Serpentine detoxes also over he skin, thus making you more confortable in you body in the long run. The skin is one of he mostly exposed bodyparts, and one where the contact with the molstor has started; therefore skin issues and skin healing i such an important topic. Not few rape survivors develop skin irritation disorders such as neurodermites, itchy skin, exems etc. BE WARNED though, that during the detox phases such irritations may become a stronger issue. As the toxins are leaving your body through the skin, these disorders may become stronger. If that happens, it is wise NOT o use potions and cortisone products to make the itch go away. Homeopathical treatements and potions, that help/fasten the detox process are better in this case. You dont want to cover up anymore. You dont want to suppress anymore. You want it to g out and away and be gone, thats why these irritations should be gone through regardless.

Above mentioned Peridot (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/peridot.msnwhttp://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/peridot.msnw)possibly in combination with Amber (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/amberbernstein.msnw)and Green Aventurine (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/aventurine.msnw), in heavy cases also combined with Blue Aventurine Quartz (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/aventurine1.msnw)will help you to suffer less and have the skin recover faster.

Any Serpentine variety will also help you to adapt to situations, new situations without falling into the tra of acceptence. THERE IS NOTHING TO ACCEPT ABOUT MOLESTATION: IT IS WRONG AND EVER WILL BE! yet you will have to learn to adapt to all those situations imposed to you after such a traumatic event. The Serpentine help will therefore come in handy

Another very important Serpentine variety aftre molestation is Chyttha Serpentine (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/chythaseprentine.msnw) - avariety that is most often found in south america: peru, brazil etc
Chyttha has extraordinary powers in addition to the detoxing and adapting qualities of Serpentine in general. It is one of the strongest helpers against Depressions, Melancholy, even suicidal tendencies. If you are battling against any of those lattre mentioned disorders, due to Rape/Molestation anyway - Chyttha will become a good friend of yours. It will help you get out of the debriss left behind by the agressor and the bystanders. It will teach you to embrace life and joy instead of becoming the zomby your aggressors would have liked making of you. By overcoming the abyss you had been thrown into, you will become a living victory - thus sustaining and repowering your life batteries. You will not loger be defined by the aggressors power tripps but by your own unique power, real power to live and rejoice.

yellow australian agate (a rare find) (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/agate8exceptionalagates.msnw) - i only have a small batch of those, and never have come across any since my first buy of them 7 years ago. they are exceptional and very unique.
Yellow Agate from australia combines the grounding and negativity defeating qualities of agate with the 3rd (manipura) chakra, the solar plexus. Your inner sun shines forth. It is unshakable. Anybody (that includes youself) mustnt try to shatter this holy, sacred place, your inner sun. This stone restores a great deal of might have been shattered. It simply installs a new institution of power within. It is not as bright and illuminating as say honey calcite or citrine, but it has a souvereignity and stability attached to it, that makes up for the lack of shining. It is like the very core of the sun. Less rediant but more strong and sustaining. In some cases, where the self esteem of a victim has been almost erased, yellow australian agate will be the answer on how to reinstall the work of the solar plexus chakra. by being less rediant, it will not be oposed by the inner "demons" of 'i aint worth no sh!t'. Agate will bannish those feelings - mercilessly - and give you a sceletton, a column, a walking cane until the chakra has learned again to function accordingly to its original creation. Aftre that, other - more radiant stones can be incorporated, and later can even replace the yellow australian agate variety. But there, where all hope seems lost regarding the Solar Plexus Chakra, yellow australian agate is inevitable and hard to be substituted.

tree agate (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/agate7mossamptreeagate.msnw) - not to be mistaken with moss agate - tree agate is mainly quartz with inclusions. tree agate is not translucent but opaque. Mainly t is mined in India, but is to be found worldwide as well. I have experieced that over the past decade, the variety of tree agte has lessened, and prices slowly start picking up, a clear sign that minable qualities are sinking atm. It is still no overpriced stone and affordable to most people.
Tree agate corresponds mainly to the Heart Chakra (anahata/4). It helps the breathing system and is a strong helper against asthma, allergic asthma, bronchites as well as other respiratory difficulties, including snoring, reoccuring sinuiteses etc. Tree agate helps to restore the fine bronches, which is equaly important for smokers and people living in urban areas.
Suffocation issues, waking up catching breath etc are often connected to traumatic molestations as well as to these very perverse cases, where aggressors had joy in suffocation of the victim before or during the rape. also the attempts of aggressors so the victims could not scream often impose later respiration difficulties upo the victims. Here tree agate will also be a very fond and dedicated helper. Not only in healing whatever might be "broken" through these events but also by restoring a feeling of security and connectedness to Mother Earth and her peoples.
tree agte faciliates communication with the Earthen people (elves, goblins,fairies etc) but it also helps you to grow back self esteem, deeply from within. Tree agate will take care of your inner gardening skills, the harbouring of joy and love and connection with all other "trees" out there.
Additionally - as the SteinElfe (http://www.steinelfe.de) (stoneelf) sais: Tree agte teaches you, that you too are like a tree. You have roots, genes, education maybe roots anyway, that are like a setting, and you have a trunk, grow out these roots - thats what you do, with your attitude towards life - but you also have he branches, reaching up to the skies and achieving any goal you wish to achieve

attached pictures:
~ prehnite, tumbled: yellow and green
~ prehnite, rough, green - india - the coin is a size refernce = a USD quarter
~ prehnite, tumbled, green
for clarifcation of tree agate (not to be mistaken with moss agate)
~ tree agate, tumbled stones from india
~ tree agte, tmbled stone pendants. india

[CzechWoods]

nevermind

[CzechWoods]

To restore your feeling of security is utmost important in the recovery of rape/molestation. Some stones now mentioned will be repetition posts but they are such tremendous helpers that they fit in several categories of help and should therefore not e forgotten - so bear with me/it. In the second half of the post new stones will be discussed, additional helpers so to speak.


Black Tourmaline/Schoerl (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)
as stated in former posts. This stone will help a great deal. Imagine yur aura field was a field in the countryside wth a fruit tree on it. in a perfect world, no-one would steal your fruit. maybe someone would come by, and take a few fruit, but they would leave an offering in exchange and most probably one of more value than that which they have taken. but a rape survivor knows this is not the perfect world. Rape Survivors have learned that some people will simply vandalize your field, burn down the tree just for their own twisted pleasure, that they will burn and devastate your field, regardless of right and wrong and get off at it even.
therefore you need the black tourmaline schoerl, a stone tha would be like a fierceful guardian dog and an electrically charged barbed wire fence in the same time ! now, a possible intruder has to first overcome the fence, which isnt all tha easy anyway - and in doing so admits to be an intruder anyway, and than, if the fence fails, the guardian dog will either attack the intruder, in oderer to killing them or at least stop them, or - if all fails - to warn you from a possible danger.
Black Tourmaline cannot protect you from rape - dont get me wrong, and read what i say. But it will help you to defend your aura shield and thus o heal, instead of becoming a victim in all realms repeatedly and thus really destroying your core of existance.
therefore black schoer tourmaline, preferably a double ending crystal is of such utmost importance in the recovery after sexual assault/rape/molestation and vampirism. period

Red / Pink Rubelite Tourmaline (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)
if the father is part of the problem you are recovering from, or a father-like figure. This stone also applies, if there is a problem from the assumption or fact, that a fatherly figure did not intervene, notice that such things were going on. Rubelite additionall will help you gather strength, and harbour also feelings of romance regardless your trauma

Blue Indigolite Tourmaline (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)
if the person i.question is mother/mother-like figure or, as above (see rubelite/father) has let these things happen without noticing or helping. Indigolite will additionally grant you creativity, whih can prove to be very helpful in overcoming your trauma through fine arts, singing, acting etc

Green Verdelite Tourmaline (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)
As mentioned before, Verdelite is one of the major stones to use. Not only will it heal your heart both on organic level (if heart beat issues derrive from the rauma) but also on the metaphorical(emotional) plain. Green Tourmaline is very effective in healings, streight to the point, all paths used. Yet i doesnt feel like it was heavy or dictating at all. People working with green tourmaline describe it to be very soft and tender. This is one of the major strengths of Verdellite actually. You dont notice how much, how effectively, how multidimensionally it is bringing you further, it is reprogramming your being. It will help you attune to natural (mother earth) energies, will help to erase those patterns of guilt and guilt tripping/guilt riding attitudes so deeply installed throughout the atrocities of incest/molestation/rape etc. Additionally to its heart and heart chakra connection (CH4) Verdelite helps the recovery of nerves, thus treating tremolo (shaking), altzheimer, parkinson, demens... disorders, as well as Multiple Scleroses, Fatigue, Fibromyalgy and neuological pains. (also Migraines, Epi Lepsy etc) Verdelite also supports recovery from bi-polar, skizzophrenia, borderline... disorders, along with ADD, Aspergies, Authism - especially if these are connected to a molestation trauma. Verdelite will also help you to overcome (related) panic attacks, sociophobia and a mulitude of neurotic behaviours and fears. It will improve recovery through a good sleep, bannishing nightmares and insomnia that comes from the fear of what the night might bring (as in molestation). THEREFORE THIS STONE IS A MUST HAVE

Brown Dravite Tourmaline
(http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/tourmalineturmalin.msnw)This variety of Tourmaline is often forgotten, although it is of outstanding qualities. There are quite a few people, who will not correspond to the black tourmaline stone. Not only is BLACK often looked down upon and some healing traditions disregard any use of black in healings. Also some people just dont like the black stones. Especially in correspondence to rape/incest/molestation, sometimes the link between "it happened in the dark" / "blackmailing was involved" (Agressor: 'if you tell anyone i will ....') to black stones will cause a kind of allergy to such stones. Here the brown dravite variety comes in very handy. Although some crystals may apear to be black, most already have a yellowish/brown touch on the outside, and some are translucent even. Many Dravite specimen are single or even doubly terminated crystals, thus adding to their healing capacities quite effectively. Dravite, alike Schoerl, protects your aura and restores the feeling of security. It feels a lot ike a warm scarf around your neck, when you are wearing Dravite necklaces. Additionally to protecting you it emits warmth and offers a lot of comfort. More so, it helps you (through its ch.2 connection) to find your place in society, to find out how you can fit in anyway, regardless the trauma you have to overcome.

Green Jade, Nephrite (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/jade.msnw)
Jade from British Columbia, Nephrite or imperial Jade count as green jade varieties. Please note, that due to its preciousness and rareness, many similar looking tones have been named jade, but they are not, and therefore shouldnt be mistaken for it. The Innuit in Canada/Alaska use a green-blackish stone for carvings; this one is - to my knowledge - not jade, but also called canadian jade, the chinese or new jade in fact is serpentine, the african jade is green african prasem/jasper/buddstone etc etc. The A-quality aventurine is used to immitate Imperial Jade quite effectively too. Therefore ask for Nephrite best. Nephrite is a kind of Jade that will not only carry the Jade vibes but add some very helpful energies along the way.
Nephrite/Jade is a very protective stone. Alike Verdelite tourmaline it has a main connection to the Anahata Heart Chakra (4). But Jade is also like Black Tourmaline a protector of the whole of the aura, and will enhance the work of any chakra alltogether. Jade was believed by many cultures to absorb negativity and to deflect evil. It was used during centuries as a lucky charm against any form of disaster or evil, as protection from harm and evil spirited people alike. It is also a protective stone for wealth, property, the habitats, your animals, horses (now cars) etc. This multitude of proection does make its rather high price well worth the money. It is like an investition in your very bodyguard. Jade is a protector of the inner organs: heart, stomac, intestines, and Liver. Nephrite (greek nephros: kidney) additionally helps the whle urinary system: kidneys, urinary "tubes" for lack of better english, prostata etc. It is used to enhance and protect the reproductive sexual organs, both inside and outside (i know, TMI). Both Nephrite and Jade that is. and they both will help with sexual disorders, against pains during intercourse and the mestrual circle etc - all of which are quite common after molestation/rape etc

Especially women experiencing diffficulties in: conceiving, intercourse, orgasm, frigidity and overactive libido etc as well as menstrual problems, heavy pains, nausea (esp related to this topic) should try using Lavender Jade (http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/jade.msnw) (but make sure you get what you wanted; lavender jade too is simulated by ainted/dyed whatever stones, serpentines, or lavender quartz)

[tallwoman.9169]

CzechWoods, I'm looking forward to your post of when to use each stone. I don't have the stones you mentioned, but can get them readily. Don't have a car, can't get to support group or counselor. Am trying to work through this without that.

[tallwoman.9169]

And after I post, I it magically appears. Thanks so much. I appreciate your knowledge.

[CzechWoods]

CzechWoods, I'm looking forward to your post of when to use each stone. I don't have the stones you mentioned, but can get them readily. Don't have a car, can't get to support group or counselor. Am trying to work through this without that.

:hugz: tallwoman

there is a lot more info to come. I have added the link to my signature, for this theads utmost importance. I have writen down on my HD what else is to do, and it i quite some writting: the part 2 of above post, hormonal balancing, reclaiming a sane sexuality to name just a few. so come back often.

in the end i will repat the disclaimer about stones not replacing doctors and on possible approaches/schedules.

Please note that every person is individual though. A qualified consultant (as in stone consultant) will help you find your very strategy. if need be, and should you not know anyone, PM me about it, i will see what i can do

[Suezie]

I would suggest rose quartz, tigers eye and amber.
Rose quartz I believe is important to help you keep in touch with more loving and forgiving emotions, whether it be for the victim or the perpetrator or both, part of healing is forgiving and finding the love again! Rose quartz has entergies known to assist with healing hearts, self love and forgivness for oneself, and any rape victim needs to come back intouch with those feelings again.
Tigars eye for strength and stamina, endurance. Some may find themselves more aggressive adorned with this stone, so wearing it all the time may want to be avoided. Amathyst is a good stone to alliviate too much tigars eye entergy.
Amber, is great to keep you in touch with our mother earth (nature). We can learn alot from her. She can be an inspiration and a shoulder to lean on when we feel alone. She can be strength and she can be timid. In the end, she proves to be incharge of herself, no matter how deviled she's been by man (and/or woman). With any rape or incest, we need to remember we are in charge of ourselves and not controlled by others, no matter how much we may feel to the contrary. It happened. It's over. We mend. We move on.

[~Belladonna~]

Green Aventurine. It's a great heart healer but not in the "lovey dovey" way like Rose Quartz is.

[SilverClaw]

allways remember, the guilt is with the aggressor, not with the victim. you ahve NOT eserved tis, you have NOT earned this, you have NOT provoked this, you have not attracted this. this is in NO WAY YOUR FAULTWell as I have always said that is easier said then done or felt.
Though in my case I think over the past two years I can say I honestly believe that but to get to that point it was hard work on my part.


In any case most of the stones I have used or would have suggested already. And Czechwoods there are several that caught my attention from your posts that I have not used before so thank you. I will definitely be looking into purchasing some of these in the next month or so.

[CzechWoods]

I would suggest rose quartz, tigers eye and amber.
Rose quartz I believe is important to help you keep in touch with more loving and forgiving emotions, whether it be for the victim or the perpetrator or both, part of healing is forgiving and finding the love again! Rose quartz has entergies known to assist with healing hearts, self love and forgivness for oneself, and any rape victim needs to come back intouch with those feelings again.
skip

zhank you for your input.

if forgiving the aggressor works for you, fine.

it sure does not work for me, nor for most victim-survivors i have worked with. it is a road leaving to no-where for us.

rape cannot be forgiven. it is an act againt nature and aganst love itself. it is not-of-this-world. it therefore cannot be forgiven. it cannot be justified, it cannot be made allright. it is and forever wil be allwrong. it is an act against universe and against karma. not wrong doing in karmic ways, like lets say murder. it is in fact undermining the universe and its law, karma in the total.

forgiving it, makes it acceptable. something that CAN happen.

but rape MUST NOT happen. it is not belonging into universe anf therefore must be treated accordingly. the goal must be, that rape is extinct. wiped out. treating it like your everydays failure makes it normal - acceptable. forgiving rape invokes more rape to happen.

food for thought

[tallwoman.9169]

I would have to agree, forgiveness is not an option. At least not at this point. It's been almost 3 years for the rape, and 35 for the molestation. Forgiveness is not something I can contemplate. I hear I need to forgive them for my good, but I can't

[CzechWoods]

I would have to agree, forgiveness is not an option. At least not at this point. It's been almost 3 years for the rape, and 35 for the molestation. Forgiveness is not something I can contemplate. I hear I need to forgive them for my good, but I can't

believe you need not to find forgiveness for the ones who did it.

this whole idea i fueled by the agressors. they want their attroities to be seen as normal, they want to blame the victims. you did nothing to make this happen, how could you now be the one who is soothing them ?

no way. dont feel bad that you cant do what would be wrong.

[daphnerose]

I wore my chrysoprase necklace while dealing with being molested as a child. It definitely was a contributing factor in my healing process. Its such a happy stone. It eased me alot during pretty rough times. That pendant is what actually made me realize what wonderful healing qualities stones carry.
daphnerose

[CzechWoods]

I wore my chrysoprase necklace while dealing with being molested as a child. It definitely was a contributing factor in my healing process. Its such a happy stone. It eased me alot during pretty rough times. That pendant is what actually made me realize what wonderful healing qualities stones carry.
daphnerose

thanks for the contribution

[~Belladonna~]

I wore my chrysoprase necklace while dealing with being molested as a child. It definitely was a contributing factor in my healing process. Its such a happy stone. It eased me alot during pretty rough times. That pendant is what actually made me realize what wonderful healing qualities stones carry.
daphnerose

Yes, I agree about Chrysophase! Chrysocolla is another good one :thumbsup:

[tallwoman.9169]

no way. dont feel bad that you cant do what would be wrong.

No, I don't feel bad that I can't forgive the perpetrators. When I was a Christian I did, but I've left a lot of that dogma behind me. And boy does it feel great!

[Suezie]

zhank you for your input.

if forgiving the aggressor works for you, fine.

it sure does not work for me, nor for most victim-survivors i have worked with. it is a road leaving to no-where for us.

rape cannot be forgiven. it is an act againt nature and aganst love itself. it is not-of-this-world. it therefore cannot be forgiven. it cannot be justified, it cannot be made allright. it is and forever wil be allwrong. it is an act against universe and against karma. not wrong doing in karmic ways, like lets say murder. it is in fact undermining the universe and its law, karma in the total.

forgiving it, makes it acceptable. something that CAN happen.

but rape MUST NOT happen. it is not belonging into universe anf therefore must be treated accordingly. the goal must be, that rape is extinct. wiped out. treating it like your everydays failure makes it normal - acceptable. forgiving rape invokes more rape to happen.

food for thought



Oh my goodness. I'm sorry, if I frazed that in such a way that it was like fogiving the rapist I was referring to. While in a sense I have heard that it does work for some, I was more meaning like working towards an understanding that the person afflicting this crime is actually "sick in his, or her head". Not meaning that as an excuse by any means because that would be like using dementia as a valid excuse for murder (or rape), it would be ludicrouse. I have found that once you realize (not everyone, but some) that it's the perpetrator that had sickness going on in the head (and there's no way anyone can rationally say a rapist isn't sick in the head)
that it's easier to find forgivness (for whoever it's most important to to the individual, it will vary depending on how far along in the recovery, and the type of counseling if any they have recieved, the individual's own unique perspectives and beliefs, etc...)
Like someone else posted in this thread, it can take some a lifetime. And there are still other's that can not ever recover from the experiance.
But I promise all you ladies, from lady to lady, it's not a "Christian" belief that forgiving is necessary for healing. It is in fact "UNIVERSAL". I'm not saying love the bastard (unless you want to), because believe me, I like thinking my perps DEAD. So I'm not trying to be holier than thou by any means, I'm just saying, love and forgivness need to be in the make, not only hostility and hate (which of course are normal and in no way needs any justifications unless it inflicts harm and/or insults and/or injury on innocent bystanders at which time it's unacceptable even with inprudent justifications in any realm of the law, society and or sociological perspectual norms) wouldn't you think?

I just hate to see good people be consumed with hate and hostility or animosities, towards an individual (s) when finding peace instead of angst
is easier and better for/and on them in the long run.


I mean, would you rather live your life hateful and bitter, or peaceful and at ease with yourself and society (without all the bullshit lies people tell themselves and others to avoid proper conduct or misconduct).

I'd rather find the peace.



"Bitterness breeds bitterness
Love breeds love
What in the world
Were you thinking of?"


Suezie

[Darkest Eve]

Personally.... clear quartz that I've charged under a full moon.

Soothing, calming, relaxing.... the stones help you to let go and focus on the beauty in life.

A hard thing to do... but the tool helps aid the process for some of us.

:hugz:

Sometimes the simplest things are the best when your mind and heart are in turmoil.

[tallwoman.9169]

It's been awhile since I charged mine under a full moon. I think I may do that, and add a jar of water and of salt as well.

[CzechWoods]

soon there will be a follow up on this thread. sorry for the long break

[lightdragon]

no problem Czech. take your time.

[CzechWoods]

i think i will elaborate on this on my new message board after the move of the current from the msn servers.

[AkashaLuna]

I'm with Solya. Rose quartz is the only stone I have found truly beneficial for healing of the wounds [especially emotional] produced by rape. It is especially good for victims of child abuse or rape when they were young. It opens the heart chakra and allows childhood issues to be resolved within the victim, as well as encouraging positive emotions - given and recieved. It lets the wearer accept people that love and respect them [as many victims do not allow this because of feelings of guilt etc]...

There is a great group for victims and survivors of rape and incest, called RISE [Rape Incest & Suicide Education]. The website is at avoiceforheather.tripod.com, and if you have a myspace, you can add them at myspace.com/avoiceforheather. I hope that helps, and good luck!

Blessed be.

[AkashaLuna]

zhank you for your input.

if forgiving the aggressor works for you, fine.

it sure does not work for me, nor for most victim-survivors i have worked with. it is a road leaving to no-where for us.

rape cannot be forgiven. it is an act againt nature and aganst love itself. it is not-of-this-world. it therefore cannot be forgiven. it cannot be justified, it cannot be made allright. it is and forever wil be allwrong. it is an act against universe and against karma. not wrong doing in karmic ways, like lets say murder. it is in fact undermining the universe and its law, karma in the total.

forgiving it, makes it acceptable. something that CAN happen.

but rape MUST NOT happen. it is not belonging into universe anf therefore must be treated accordingly. the goal must be, that rape is extinct. wiped out. treating it like your everydays failure makes it normal - acceptable. forgiving rape invokes more rape to happen.

food for thought

What an interesting way to describe it. I whole-heartedly agree with that. Rape is absolutely the worst crime man can commit, worse than murder, in my opinion. It's horrible that society doesn't care more about vixtims and survivors of rape. But hopefully one day they will. I really do think you guys should visit the sites i mentioned in my last comment, as well as thepetitionsite.com/2/save-the-innocence. Blessed be, and happy healing =]

<3

[lightdragon]

making the link easier for people otherwise a good post

RISE website here (http://avoiceforheather.tripod.com/)

and tis is the myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/avoiceforheather




I'm with Solya. Rose quartz is the only stone I have found truly beneficial for healing of the wounds [especially emotional] produced by rape. It is especially good for victims of child abuse or rape when they were young. It opens the heart chakra and allows childhood issues to be resolved within the victim, as well as encouraging positive emotions - given and recieved. It lets the wearer accept people that love and respect them [as many victims do not allow this because of feelings of guilt etc]...

There is a great group for victims and survivors of rape and incest, called RISE [Rape Incest & Suicide Education]. The website is at avoiceforheather.tripod.com, and if you have a myspace, you can add them at myspace.com/avoiceforheather. I hope that helps, and good luck!

Blessed be.

[AkashaLuna]

Haha thanks lightdragon.

[ainecrea]

This thread has been awesome. I have not worked with crystals before but really need to do this. To use these, are there books I should get or how do I get the qualities these crystals carry to help? Just wear them. meditate on them, hold them? I hope this makes sense.

[lightdragon]

This thread has been awesome. I have not worked with crystals before but really need to do this. To use these, are there books I should get or how do I get the qualities these crystals carry to help? Just wear them. meditate on them, hold them? I hope this makes sense.

you could just wear or carry them. having something in ana rea also helps.

for programming a stone can be used as well. look into the other threads for this. there is a seperate thread for books in the sticky section

[ainecrea]

Thank you very much!

[Rainbow]

I am a huge fan of this thread.

[lightdragon]

I am a huge fan of this thread.
please explain?:eyebrow:

[Rainbow]

please explain?:eyebrow:

I think it's an important healing topic? I've been using the information in it to help choose stones to help friends of mine who have been raped?

Your smiley very much insinuates that you are reading too much into my statement.

EDIT: In retrospect I think I should mention that I'm more confused than anything. I'm not like... pro-rape or anything stupid like that, I just think it's a good thread.

[lightdragon]

I think it's an important healing topic?agreed.



I've been using the information in it to help choose stones to help friends of mine who have been raped?
good. and if you have anything to add, it would be most useful.



Your smiley very much insinuates that you are reading too much into my statement.

EDIT: In retrospect I think I should mention that I'm more confused than anything. I'm not like... pro-rape or anything stupid like that, I just think it's a good thread.

with apologies for assuming the worst.

, but from what I see on the net and what some people will try to post here. I had to ask.

as there is a famous quote by Albert Einstein " there are two things that infinite :the universe and human stupidity. And i'm not sure about the universe.".

[LadyCelt]

I think Jade would be good, especially for its Quan/Kuan Yin connection (and she being known as "She who hears the cries of the world.")

I think Rose Quartz could be good for self love again and being open to love again from another. Rose quartz and jade together might be good.

I think Amethyst and Hematite might be good for overcoming addiction (say if going through this caused an addiction to alcohol, pills, lack of or too much food, hurting yourself.)

I would also think bloodstone and maybe tigers eye and blood stone would be good for inner stregnth and embracing the warrior side.

I think any stone you feel connects with a god or goddess you feel connected to and that helps you (or god and goddess in general) would be good.

I'd think moonstone and the moon cycle of getting rid of guilt (from my experience, the guilt of knowing that.... messed up someone else's life after and has children now) and getting rid of hating/doubting yourself with the waning moon, your own full potential (the full moon) and embracing who you are, and what you want to gain (like strength and courage, for example tigers eye) with the waxing moon might be good. I just came up with that, so don't know if this is proven to work.


Now, certain stones and metals work better or worse (or at least differently) for certain people, so there may be variation.

[~Runa~]

Has anyone considered Amber? Apparantly it does heal the body. This is my favourite rock and it looks like honey. It's said to help ease depression and diminish any form of suicidal thinking as well as building confidence. When wearing amber jewels with other stones it helps create different healing magic. Turquoise with amber gives someone a sense of peace and a settled emotion. Amber helps your body and mind.

[MoonAmethyst]

Does the same stones apply for victims of sexual abuse? Or is there different crystals and stones used? Let me know when you get a chance thank you!

[Shaedema]

I think the same stones would be useful. I think it would depend on how the individual reacts to the stone and vice versa. Perhaps testing individual stones that have been suggested would be a good plan of action.