Loved ones turning against you

[IceLupa]

Hi, this question is on behalf of my friend Anna. She lost her dad 3 years ago and they were very close. She grieved so much for him and earlier this year she started using a pendulum. Then she found a way to contact her dad through the pendulum but now she uses other tools.

Certain things happened, because she started communicating with other people that died. Recently she was crying and I asked her what the matter is. She told me that everyone apart from her dad, that is all the other people who were contacting her from the afterlife were frightening her. They were "poking fun" out of her and pretending to be trees, animals and movie characters just out of spite. It upset Anna because she loved these people and here they were in the afterlife taking the mickey out of her. They all apologised about this and yet I'm wondering, do other people experience this sort of thing? If not then why would her loved ones poke fun out of her? Why did they do that?

These loved ones include her great grandmothers, grand uncles and aunts, others she knew in the past and someone she is still in love with and who loves her. I find it weird that they would all do this. Apart from that over the past 7 months she's been told some pretty horrible things by these so-called loved ones. I'm wondering why she's getting these bad messages from people who loved her.

[watersprite]

You really have to have your shields up when you do these things. Your state of mind must be neutral going in. Try only to speak to one spirit at a time. Let them know from the beginning that you will talk to them later, but only if they don't attack you!And stick to your guns.

[Lunacie]

I don't think it's common for loved ones who have passed over to be mean spirited. But it's all too easy for a mischievous spirit to use the opportunity to have a little fun with someone who is gullible.

Or it could be her loved one's way of putting up a "do not disturb" sign if she's been doing this too much and they just want to be left alone for awhile.

[watersprite]

That's true too! seems like he has things he needs to go through.

[IceLupa]

Thanks for replying. Sheilding is a good idea that I thought of regarding this so I will mention it to her. Yes I also considered that maybe they want to be left alone for a while. She's been talking to them everyday but she says that her dad and boyfriend want to speak to her. She told me tonight that her loved ones didn't mean to upset her this way.

[Avanti]

My first instinct is that...they're not her loved ones. There are many spirits around that are less than friendly, and they could be pretending to be someone they're not. I've known more than a few cases with people who thought they had contacted their loved ones through ouiji boards, and then the spirits became malicious.

Maybe her dad and boyfriend are genuine, but I seriously doubt that people's loved ones will be so immature as to hurt the living. Just tell her to take a break and let her emotions calm down. She doesn;t need to contact them everyday(i mean they're dead, where are they gonna go?) they can wait a few days, and if it's her dad, he'll understand.

[Lady White Tree]

It seems most likely that she is communicating with spirits from the Astral Plane. These spirits will still emit similar energy to that which they had in their physical lives. There are plenty of mischievous spirits who choose to remain in the Astral Plane and not move on and up. Wherever there is an opportunity to interact with the physical world, they will take full advantage of it. It is important not to dabble.

Her loved ones will not hurt her in any way, as it will be her love for them and their love for her that bring them together. She would feel loved and supported when communing with them.

Protection is of the utmost importance. I am concerned that these spirits may have attached themselves to her. They will say anything to lull her into thinking they are benign. I certain they are NOT her family and friends.

Smudge with white sage. Amethyst crystal on her person. Protection symbols on outward windows on four sides of the home. Wind chimes. Tibetan Bell. Cleanse with white light.
Invocation - "I ask for a band of light and protection through which only those of the Highest may enter."

Ask these spirits to go to the light (not joking). Send them to the light. People that love them are waiting for them there.

Take your friend to a professional Spiritual Medium ASAP.

Blessings, love and protection are sent with this post.

[Phoenix Blue]

I don't think it's common for loved ones who have passed over to be mean spirited. But it's all too easy for a mischievous spirit to use the opportunity to have a little fun with someone who is gullible.
What Lunacie said. What evidence does Anna have that she's actually talking to whom she thinks she is?

[Cassie]

What Lunacie said. What evidence does Anna have that she's actually talking to whom she thinks she is?
This would be my concerne too. I think Lady White Tree's protection advice is very useful in this situation.




Protection is of the utmost importance. I am concerned that these spirits may have attached themselves to her. They will say anything to lull her into thinking they are benign. I certain they are NOT her family and friends.

Smudge with white sage. Amethyst crystal on her person. Protection symbols on outward windows on four sides of the home. Wind chimes. Tibetan Bell. Cleanse with white light.
Invocation - "I ask for a band of light and protection through which only those of the Highest may enter."

Ask these spirits to go to the light (not joking). Send them to the light. People that love them are waiting for them there.

Take your friend to a professional Spiritual Medium ASAP.


I would also be interested to know what her spiritual beliefs and practices are as this may have a baring on the best way for her personally to deal with this problem.

[IceLupa]

Thanks for the advice Lady White Tree. I also appreciate the fedback from others too. A different psychic told her that Amethyst Crystal was her healing object as she kept talking about it's usefulness. She never knew what it meant. It's strange that I should find you talking of it.

Being her friend I can say that I'm dubious of the spirits that said they're her loved ones also but occasionally they sound genuine. She's often asked her dad if he can prove that it's him. She used a pendulum and her 'dad' pointed at some items that used to belong to him. He mentioned some very personal things that only he and my friend would know. I don't know what it was but she's convinced it was him.

I think there are some dark spirits around her because some of their messages frightened her in the past. I don't think she should speak to them anymore. She asked me what would happen if she dies soon, will she meet these dark spirits if they are there?

[Gypsyballad]

I agree with what the others have said. I don't believe that she is communicating with her loved ones. There are many spirits out there who can pretend to be someone's loves ones and then tell one malicious lies. And if she recently started working with the pendulum she is probably inexperienced and doesn't have the knowledge to tell which spirits are evil and which are her loved ones.

I really think she should do some spiritual cleansings to clear her home of negative energy.

[Lunacie]

I think there are some dark spirits around her because some of their messages frightened her in the past. I don't think she should speak to them anymore. She asked me what would happen if she dies soon, will she meet these dark spirits if they are there?

I don't think that when we die we go to the same place where these dark spirits live. But our fears and negativity can draw them to us here on the physical plane, so if we're fearful enough we might be able to draw them with us after death. Your friend really needs to take control of the situation, do the cleansings and banishings that have been suggested - or get help in doing that - and then stop messing with stuff that she's scared of.

[Lady White Tree]

After death we arrive on the Astral plane. We may be confused or confident on that side depending on how we pass over. Drunks may cross in an inebriated state and it may take them longer to understand what has happened and where they now exist.

Mischevious spirits seek to meddle with those in the physical realm. Such spirits will seek no such entertainment from those kind spirits in the Astral as they are focused on the physical realm and not the Astral realm.

Amethyst crystal is universally acknowledged as a protection crystal.

[MonSno_LeeDra]

I may be out in left field here but one issue no one has addressed is that maybe the primary spirits, ie dad and boyfriend, have refused to accept their demise. If she keeps calling them everyday and speaking it soon gets to the point where they are not dead in thier own minds nor hers. That desire to remain keeps them Earth bound and her love further adds to the glue that holds the here.

The other so-called spirits may in fact be her family but are trying to get her to sever the thread that holds the two to this plain. I've seen some spirit that get irate when hey are brought back into contact with this world for it recalls earthly pains they do not feel but do recall.

It just might be their way of getting her to release them to severe that tie and trying to help them cross over. Let's face it it's sort of hard to get someone to move forward when everything keeps pulling them backward.

[Lady White Tree]

Those that have gone to the light happily assist their loved ones that remain in the physical plane. Family members will send nothing but love and support (perhaps firm advice such as that which passes from parent to child). But nothing that causes negative emotions such as guilt or anguish will come from those in the Light, bathed by the love of the Source.

Sometimes spirits in the Astral believe that they will be permanently separated from their loved ones that remain on the physical plane if they go to the Light. A genuine spiritual medium will be able to communicate with these spirits (if this is the problem) and explain that this is not the case.

It doesn't really matter whether these spirits are her family or strangers. All of them need to go to the Light. Once this has happened the energy of these spirits will feel wonderful and peaceful. And I'm sure her family will still be around.