Guy cannot wear makeup to school

[cubay]

A guy in Mississippi is not allowed to wear maeup to school because the teachers said his black makeup was too distracting.The boy's mother said well fine I'll get another color and the teacher said no boy's don't wear makeup,I wanna know what you guys think.Should he be allowed to wear makeup if he is not hurting anybody?

jessica

[Agaliha]

I'm curious, did this ever get a news article about it or are you just relaying something you heard?

Can girls wear makeup at the school as well, black or otherwise?
How is the dress-code all around and is the school public or private?

As far as guys wearing make-up, I don't see a problem with it. Now if the school has a strict dress-code (for boys and girls) about dress, make-up, hair styles, etc (especially if it's a private school), I don't know what could be done, but if it's just targeting guys because of some preconceived idea about who can wear make-up or not, than there is a double-standard. If girls can wear fake eye lashes, eye liner, lipstick and all that and a guy wears eye liner and they're bitching, I think they're unfairly targeting the guy.

I'd like more details, though, if possible.

[Drouach]

Hmmmm I'd like to see this guy wear make-up to my old high school (Boys only).


Personally I don't have an issue so much, but depends on the high school's regs.

[sushikitten]

I dunno - I guess it would depend on if, for example, the guy is wearing a little eyeliner, or is wearing ICP/corpsepaint-style makeup. Eyeliner I can deal with, but a juggalo face staring at me all through calculus? Not so much.

[Phoenix Blue]

No. He should be expected to abide by the school's dress code. If he wants to play with make-up, he can do it on his own time.

[Shanti]

I remember the news article. I also watched the report.
I think the school is wrong!
He wore the makeup no different than a girl. The only difference was he chose black lip stick. Big deal. Black is more distracting than flaming red?

The school is being typically sexist, especially since he is willing to change the color.

And it was not in the code that boys can not wear makeup!

[Stormbeard]

I say go for it. He's just expressing himself.

[Phoenix Blue]

The school is being typically sexist, especially since he is willing to change the color.
Are they? How many jobs outside Hollywood let guys wear makeup?

[brymble]

Dude, he's a 14 year old high school student, not an exectutive for some corporation. Who cares what jobs "allow" the wearing of make-up? He's in high school, not the work force. Let him do it while he can.

Especially since it's not in the dress code that he can't. I saw the same video, I think it was on CNN?

[Phoenix Blue]

He's in high school, not the work force. Let him do it while he can.
He can do it whenever he wants -- after school hours. He's in school to learn, not to put on a fashion show.

[Djiril]

Are they? How many jobs outside Hollywood let guys wear makeup?
Well, more should!

[Stormbeard]

He can do it whenever he wants -- after school hours. He's in school to learn, not to put on a fashion show.
I guess we all forgot that in order to learn something you have to have to look and dress a certain way.

[Stormbeard]

Well, more should!
^ This.

I'd feel more comfortable being served by a human being, than a clone.

[la tortuga]

Honestly, I don't care if some boy is wearing make-up to school... but I could see why black lipstick would be a distraction. I tried it a few times in high school, but never wore it to school or anything. That was a private at-home thing. I don't think I necessarily agree with the school about boys not wearing make up at all, but if that's what they wish to enforce they do have the right to impose those rules. (Even when it's one that they haven't written yet.) Like I can't smoke on campus when I go pick my sister up after school, it's a dumb rule that I don't necessarily agree with but it's something I have to abide by while on that property. There's plenty of time off campus for wearing make up or whatever. Do it then.

[LostSheep]

What is it with "dress codes"? What difference does it make to anyone's willingness/ability to learn or do their job adequately?

[Stormbeard]

The smoking thing I can dig, because it causes litter, it's a fire risk, whatever.

But unless his lipstick and eyeliner is causing shit to catch fire, get dirty etc I really don't see the problem. TBH it's the people saying that it's NOT allowed that reinforce the idea of wearing the makeup. The shock factor and all that.

[Lunacie]

A guy in Mississippi is not allowed to wear maeup to school because the teachers said his black makeup was too distracting.The boy's mother said well fine I'll get another color and the teacher said no boy's don't wear makeup,I wanna know what you guys think.Should he be allowed to wear makeup if he is not hurting anybody?

jessica

I did a Google and couldn't find any news about a boy in Mississippi who was told he couldn't wear makeup to school. I did find this CNN video about a boy in Ohio... is this what you're referring to?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/09/25/davis.boy.makeup.wkrc

And some comments on the situation... http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2008/09/26/boys_makeup/index.html

[la tortuga]

The smoking thing I can dig, because it causes litter, it's a fire risk, whatever.

But unless his lipstick and eyeliner is causing shit to catch fire, get dirty etc I really don't see the problem. TBH it's the people saying that it's NOT allowed that reinforce the idea of wearing the makeup. The shock factor and all that.


Honestly with smoking it's because they don't allow tobacco on campus property for any reason. Employees can't even leave cigarettes in their cars. ;)

I agree that the world should be more open about a lot of things that it wouldn't cause such mayhem. Talk openly to kids about sex and they're not so very curious and jump on the first person they meet, etc, etc. When I was in middle school we wore uniforms until one girl went to the principal saying it was against her religion to wear a uniform, signed off by parents, and all hell broke loose. They stopped making the kids wear uniforms at that school. It was a few years after I had stopped going there, of course. I don't know if that prepared me for the work place, since I'm planning on getting my septum pierced soon and that's ok by the work dress code, which is jeans and something other than a t-shirt. The world is evolving and the schools aren't keeping up by a long shot. Let them make their silly rules and regulations, they'll probably completely redefine the school dress codes within the next few years or so anyway.

[Invidosa]

I found this one in WV. Seems like we have a bit of a phenomona

Four Hedgesville Students Sent Home For Wearing Eyeliner (http://your4state.com/content/fulltext?cid=27971)

You know, I think this is pretty ridiculous. (disclaimer, I am a fan of men wearing a bit of makeup. most of the guys I have dated have done so, including the guy I dated all through high school) There is nothing inherently wrong with a boy wearing makeup. But frankly for me that is neither here nor there. Dress codes (be they right, wrong or indifferent, or as in this case, stupid, it’s just makeup for chez-its sake) are the right of the school board to implement. My problem is when there are different standards for girls and boys. This frankly pisses me off royally. I present for example the dress code regs. of Valley View in Roswell Independent School District, New Mexico

Valley View Dress Code (http://www.risd.k12.nm.us/schools/elem/vve/dresscode.cfm)

Which allows girls to wear earrings but boys cannot. This is insulting and stupid. What the heck is the difference? Why do studs on a boy “distract” but on a girl they are fine? Stupid.

And for those of you who follow this kind of thing, Roswell School District may sound familiar. In 1999 there was a big to do over their dress code which banned pentacles at the time. A good summation of the events is available at the bottom of this page and it is well foot-noted.

Dispute over pentagrams in Roswell NM public schools (http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_pent.htm)

[ignescentphoenix]

I really don't see a problem. If girls can where make-up, than boys that want to, should be able to. If they aren't allowed to wear makeup, than the school is being sexist.

[Against The Tide]

School is less a place of learning and more a place where young people are moulded into tomorrows tax payers - the weekday 9-3 routine gets them used to working hours, infrequent breaks, sitting down for long periods of time, gives them skills that should be useful in the office. Wearing uniforms and/or adhering to dress codes is a large part of that. The school is only getting the lad prepared for later life - If he wants to try and land a professional job with makeup, may he meet the same pitfalls as I did :)

[Invidosa]

I really don't see a problem. If girls can where make-up, than boys that want to, should be able to. If they aren't allowed to wear makeup, than the school is being sexist.

exac-atically :thumbsup:

[ignescentphoenix]

School is less a place of learning and more a place where young people are moulded into tomorrows tax payers - the weekday 9-3 routine gets them used to working hours, infrequent breaks, sitting down for long periods of time, gives them skills that should be useful in the office. Wearing uniforms and/or adhering to dress codes is a large part of that.

*sigh* sad but true

Class schedule...

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The school is only getting the lad prepared for later life - If he wants to try and land a professional job with makeup, may he meet the same pitfalls as I did :)


You can't prepare a kid to be a rockstar :hehehehe:....or a drag queen for that matter.:T

[Prophecy]

He can do it whenever he wants -- after school hours. He's in school to learn, not to put on a fashion show.

I have to agree on this one folks. He is in school to learn. But on the other hand, I don't think anyone should be allowed to wear it be it male or female for the same reason you go to learn. Not make a fashion statement. If they are going to allow the young girls that from what I have seen dressing like hookers and wearing makeup then by all means let the guy do it. But the crap has to stop somewhere.:crown:

[brymble]

He can do it whenever he wants -- after school hours. He's in school to learn, not to put on a fashion show.


And the girls who are allowed to wear makeup are there to put on a fashion show, and not learn?

[Shanti]

Wow I didnt know that everyone that graduates high school goes to an office job!
Boy, guess I better tell my long haired freaky mate that being a welder is not what you do in life!

Guess I better also tell the farmers that depend on him welding the equipment that he cant do that anymore since he is suppose to be in an office!!!

Oh and he isnt suppose to work weekends I guess too. Its all 9-5 weekdays.

Man, my mate really is messed up!

Hey, guess I was too when I worked 3rd shift and was a freaky looking chick!

Glad to know we are all suppose to end up in the same box.

Sure wouldn't want any high schoolers to get an idea that they may be able to pursue something different!

Oh crap, I have to tell my body pierced, goth friend she can no longer manage that trailer park! People in management cant be goth!

I personally chose to not be a copy of an imitation!

[brymble]

Presently, I work from home. Admittedly, I do not choose to wear makeup to work. Although if I wanted to, I could work naked.

School dress codes failed to save me from myself, or affect my employability in any way.

[Invidosa]

Are they? How many jobs outside Hollywood let guys wear makeup?

I don't really think that is a valid point Phoenix, for a few reasons.

1. I know several people; including myself (at times) who look/dress in a manner that would be considered "alternative" all of us who want jobs have them. If you are a person to whom this venue of expression is important you tend to look for and find positions where your value as an employee is not compromised or diminished in the eyes of the employer due to your appearance, generally speaking (excluding anything like nudity usually, but I do know one drum maker who, along with his staff, regularly work naked :hehehehe:)

2. It is not uncommon for people to change their style/look/attitude as they grow older or realize that they need to adjust to a situation. If this kid graduates from high school and feels a driving need to work as a lawyer, he will be willing to change his appearance to suit his needs. However, school tends to be something not chosen by students. In my experience most high school students do not feel a strong compulsion to find a way to meet the expectations of adults when it comes to their appearance (for the record, many adults don’t feel the need to meet the requirements of society when it comes to appearance, myself included ) unless they are going to get something out of it that they want. Basically, if he finds that his appearance keeps him from something that he wants it will be his decision as to what gets sacrificed.

Don’t get me wrong, I can totally get the reasoning behind dress codes;especially when it comes to bared skin [i.e. bellies & butts] or annoyingly saggy pants, but mostly because I freakin hate to look at it. However, I do think they tend to they verge on stupidity most of the time, this instance is not an exception of my observations.

[Against The Tide]

Wow I didnt know that everyone that graduates high school goes to an office job!
Boy, guess I better tell my long haired freaky mate that being a welder is not what you do in life!

Guess I better also tell the farmers that depend on him welding the equipment that he cant do that anymore since he is suppose to be in an office!!!

Oh and he isnt suppose to work weekends I guess too. Its all 9-5 weekdays.

Man, my mate really is messed up!

Hey, guess I was too when I worked 3rd shift and was a freaky looking chick!

Glad to know we are all suppose to end up in the same box.

Sure wouldn't want any high schoolers to get an idea that they may be able to pursue something different!

Oh crap, I have to tell my body pierced, goth friend she can no longer manage that trailer park! People in management cant be goth!

I personally chose to not be a copy of an imitation!

I'm not saying we should all end up in the same box, but aint that how the system is structured? Even the classroom heirachy is very similar to the chain of command many would encounter at the workplace. This is why I think more should look into alternative teaching methods. If the schoolplaces was really just about being a place of learning, kids would attend only the lessons they liked and conduct whatever research they wished. But as it's to prepare you for sitting, unhappy and bored out of your head in a job you probally don't want but have because THEY say they you should have a job, THEY make you sit through the lessons you don't like aswel :)

[brymble]

I'm not saying we should all end up in the same box, but aint that how the system is structured?

No. It is a way some people believe it is structured.

[Philosophia]

*shrugs* It doesn't bother me what a person wears as long as it doesn't interfere with their learning.