Changing Visions Question

[Cloaked Raven]

Can a person change a vision they saw about the sentence someone gets for murdering someone? Even if they're not involved in the trial whatsoever???

A very close local friend of mine asked me about this recently. Her vision consisted of seeing Penny Boudreau get 10 to 25 years minus time served for killing her 12 year old daughter Karissa back in January 2008.

I know the future is always changing, it's never something that's written in stone, but my friend and I both have the feeling this will happen.

Personally, I'm not sure if one can change that or not, so I thought I'd ask for assistance here. Is there a chance that my friend's vision can be changed???

Thanks in advance.

[BearDancing]

I personally beleive it can be changed.....there are so many possiblities....

[Cassie]

Perhaps there was another clue in her vision? (An event or piece of evidence which, if brought to light, could alter the sentence).

[BearDancing]

as I said I am sure it can be changed with the right work/energy....yet I would definately think about jerking around with someone elses life... just my opinion....

I think what Cassie said might be huge.....and work on the finding of real evidence rather than energy work.....if energy work is what you were talking about...

[Cloaked Raven]

Thank you both Cassie and FairieSpirit... I'll ask my friend if she saw anything at all relating to evidence in her vision, although I don't think she did. She would have said something to me about it, I'm pretty sure of that.

As for energy, maybe it's best if I send some out to keep the locals calm? Murders are an extremely rare thing here in my area... And this one made headlines across our vast nation, so a lot of people are out for blood. I don't want anyone else hurt or in trouble due to this, it's bad enough one person lost her life, and maybe some calming energy would do everyone here a lot of good.

[MonSno_LeeDra]

I believe that we can change the outcome of visions that pertain to us directly. I do not believe it matters that we are the one who recieved the vision or someone associated with us received it. But their is always a connection to us and the person who received the vision.

That said I do not think we can change visions we recieve of someone we have no connection to. In that regard I think it sort of like getting a sneak preview of a movie that while we may view it, it is beyond us to alter once cast.

I find that people may get visions or images of someone that is large in their mind from some event but that they do not have the connection or purpose to affect / effect a change in regards to them. In the instance you refer to I think part of it derives from the notion that though you want one thing and others are doing there best to achieve thier purpose.

Basically a point and counter-point scenario where neither side wins they simply cancel each other out.

The opposit I also find that is when something goes against a persons belief, they may have very vivid dreams of what they would like to see but that does not make it a vision. It can be difficult to seperate the two notions, especially if the person has not had a true vision but simply a indepth dream.

Though to be truthful I find it as interfering when someone tries to change the outcome of an event of that size. It seem's ironic to me the number of people who scream about new age karma but then cry foul when it comes into play and takes affect.

That and until it actually goes to trail I very much doubt that the common reader will be shown all the evidence against a person. Heck, even after it goes to trail I doubt the common person will see it unless they request a court transcript of all proceedings.

[BearDancing]

definately calming would be good...also maybe pray that the multitudes see as God wants them to see....not let their rage entagle their view....also who knows maybe the dream was only to get you to post and through someone not involved helps you or others see things different is the meaning of the dream....God works in strange ways...there is ALWAYS HOPE and through our choices the energies of the world are affected.....each and every thought affects the Universe...

[Cloaked Raven]

I believe that we can change the outcome of visions that pertain to us directly. I do not believe it matters that we are the one who recieved the vision or someone associated with us received it. But their is always a connection to us and the person who received the vision.

That said I do not think we can change visions we recieve of someone we have no connection to. In that regard I think it sort of like getting a sneak preview of a movie that while we may view it, it is beyond us to alter once cast.

I find that people may get visions or images of someone that is large in their mind from some event but that they do not have the connection or purpose to affect / effect a change in regards to them. In the instance you refer to I think part of it derives from the notion that though you want one thing and others are doing there best to achieve thier purpose.

Basically a point and counter-point scenario where neither side wins they simply cancel each other out.

The opposit I also find that is when something goes against a persons belief, they may have very vivid dreams of what they would like to see but that does not make it a vision. It can be difficult to seperate the two notions, especially if the person has not had a true vision but simply a indepth dream.

Though to be truthful I find it as interfering when someone tries to change the outcome of an event of that size. It seem's ironic to me the number of people who scream about new age karma but then cry foul when it comes into play and takes affect.

That and until it actually goes to trail I very much doubt that the common reader will be shown all the evidence against a person. Heck, even after it goes to trail I doubt the common person will see it unless they request a court transcript of all proceedings.
*nodding* Agreed. That's what I was thinking but since I wasn't sure, I had to ask. Thank you for your wisdom and insight. :)

[MonSno_LeeDra]

This is off topic but have to ask...



pray that the multitudes see as God wants them to see


Who says they are not already seeing as "GOD" wants them to see? The pain and suffering may just be part of the greater scourge that is in store for them, both the viewers and the one accused of the crime.

It is a purly human notion that "GOD" only wants good without pain. I honestly can't think of any "GOD" or "GODDESS" that does not use both pain and pleasure as a means of doing things. Nor can I think of one that does not use life and death as a means of enforceing thier will either. Even the universe, Spirit or any other name uses life, death, pain and pleasure as a mean of affecting / effecting things.




each and every thought affects the Universe...



Yes that is true. Yet the universe also shows screw with me enough and I will destory you. Who is to say what the cataylst will be that causes the next destructive event, maybe somethng as little as trying to change something like this.

[Cloaked Raven]

definately calming would be good...also maybe pray that the multitudes see as God wants them to see....not let their rage entagle their view....also who knows maybe the dream was only to get you to post and through someone not involved helps you or others see things different is the meaning of the dream....God works in strange ways...there is ALWAYS HOPE and through our choices the energies of the world are affected.....each and every thought affects the Universe...

I've been praying almost constantly that everyone here would remain calm and not do anything that would harm anyone else.... But the people who were at the courthouse at Penny's last appearance were very, very nasty... Hurling insults, screaming at her, someone even said they heard someone uttering death threats at her. It's beyond anything I've ever seen in this lifetime... And I hope never to see again.

I'm picturing a blanket of calm and comfort over the locals... Something soft and warm, very cuddly so they calm down and don't let their negativity towards Penny go overboard and allow anyone else to get hurt here...

[~Audra~]

the things we are doing right at this very second are building to the future...though we all go down different roads, sometimes these roads meet, cross...perhaps your friend had this vision because she can intervene in some small way that sets the motion for the future...

even though we are small drops of water in an endless sea, it only takes a few drops to cure a sickness or to make it worse...perhaps she holds the key to change her own vision...

[BearDancing]

Who says they are not already seeing as "GOD" wants them to see? The pain and suffering may just be part of the greater scourge that is in store for them, both the viewers and the one accused of the crime.

I agree with you.....next time I will rephrase....

It is a purly human notion that "GOD" only wants good without pain. I honestly can't think of any "GOD" or "GODDESS" that does not use both pain and pleasure as a means of doing things. Nor can I think of one that does not use life and death as a means of enforceing thier will either.
also agree with this.....most definately

Even the universe, Spirit or any other name uses life, death, pain and pleasure as a mean of affecting / effecting things.




Yes that is true. Yet the universe also shows screw with me enough and I will destory you. Who is to say what the cataylst will be that causes the next destructive event, maybe somethng as little as trying to change something like this.

exactly and who is to say....all she can do is what feels right for her....Cloaked Raven....no one KNOWS the possibilites are endless.