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Hangatyr 13
December 19th, 2008, 11:48 AM
When I read beginner material on Western Cerimonial or Chaos Magic, one of the things that I'm usually not quite satisfied with is the explaination of how to vibrate words of power. So I've resorted to using youtube as an instructional resource. What do you all think of the way this guy vibrates?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETNJaXbblOo

I also try to "whisper" my vibrations when I practice at night so as not to wake up my wife and son. I still feel the vibrations in my body, just to a lesser extent. Do you think this is an acceptable way to train vibration?

Shawn Blackwolf
December 19th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Hello , Hangatyr 13...

Welcome to the boards ( or welcome back )...

So...answer to your questions :

First...this video , is simplified , for instruction...

Either that , or he has not yet developed his "voice"...

Through time , one works with the voice , in a
"Call and Drone" fashion...and with more fluidity ,
and rythm , as well resonance , than this ceremonialist...

I work with sonics...in a different fashion...I shall post
something for you , momentarily...

As far as your second question...

That practice you describe , was known by Crowley , as the
"Great Voice" , oddly enough...LOL...

The internalization of the voice of the universe...yes , you
can practice , and / or perform ritual , that way...

Differences , to be sure , at first...but if you get good enough...

You still affect the air around you , and astral fluid...

Give me a few for my post with some sonic chants for ritual...

Seren_
December 19th, 2008, 12:27 PM
There's absolutely no power to the guy's voice. Maybe it's just because it's been filmed and it's not being captured properly (though I doubt it), but it sounds more like he's intoning in a vaguely musical manner than actually vibrating the words.

_Banbha_
December 19th, 2008, 12:31 PM
I agree, he seems like a beginner himself.

Nox_Mortus
December 19th, 2008, 12:32 PM
I suggest looking up instructions for either Buddhist chanting or Tuvan throat singing, much more helpful IMO.

ETA: the guy in the video sounds like he's going into his falsetto voice in a few places, don't do that.

Shawn Blackwolf
December 19th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Okay...first I shall "say" sixteen sonics , then I shall vibrate them...

Do forgive me...before coffee , and a few hours of sleep...

But a true magician , is always ready , are they not ?

skilly-nilly
December 19th, 2008, 12:38 PM
This one is good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYqrWRiS204

Nox_Mortus
December 19th, 2008, 12:43 PM
This one is good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYqrWRiS204

aye, there's your Tuvan throat singing, there are several places on the net that offer lessons on how to do that.

_Banbha_
December 19th, 2008, 01:15 PM
There's a Gaelic technique, it's not as deeply resonant, called mouth singing and you can hear the droning in the background:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMXfvKNnuA

Shawn Blackwolf
December 19th, 2008, 01:20 PM
Very nice , Banbha !

Thank you...:thumbsup:

Modesty
December 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM
When I was training with a GD lodge for a short time this is not how it was done. The vibration of the God names need to be drawn out with your full breath. His stance and posture are poor, and when thrusting energy outwards his right leg should step forward, knee extend, and both hands should be thrust forward while vibrating the names. When he has finished with one name he steps back into place, should bring his left hand up and place his middle and forefinger over his lips while tracing around, in which he will continue with the next name in the same fashion.

I guess everyone has their own way of doing though.