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Illuminatus
October 17th, 2002, 04:20 PM
This article is reall kewl. It shows an escavation of some rock strata under Africa, dated at about 2 billion years ago. It seems that a sustained nuclear reaction occured naturally there, due to the heavy concentrations of fissiable material in the area.

The principle is the same - two types Fissiable material are placed in close proximity. Neutrons coming out of Plutonium crash into Uranium, and this crash causes the Uranium's nucleus to split into 2, giving off a whole bunch of energy. In modern plants, this energy is used to boil water, which turns steam engines, which then generate electricity. However, in the ancient geological past of earth, it just made the surrounding area really really hot.

Since fissiable material has such a painfully short half-life (a few decades and most of it's gone), nothing like this could happen naturally today.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap021016.html

So, nuclear power is natural in origin. God invented it long before man got the idea, so let our damn subs dock in Australia already!!

- Illuminatus!

Mythrel
October 18th, 2002, 03:46 AM
that's really interesting...too bad it doesn't happen naturally anymore, it could help in how to dispose of nuclear waste more efficiently, and safer...

Illuminatus
October 18th, 2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Mythrel
that's really interesting...too bad it doesn't happen naturally anymore, it could help in how to dispose of nuclear waste more efficiently, and safer...

Not really! There wasn't any life on earth back then to protect! The earth was a radioactive nightmare with a thin atmosphere anyway, a few extra rads from fisiable material under the surface probably didn't change much.

The only way to protect yourself from nuclear waste is to put as much solid lead and rock between you and it as you can!

Phoenix Blue
October 18th, 2002, 11:39 AM
What about dropping the used waste down abandoned oil wells. . ?

Yvonne Belisle
October 18th, 2002, 12:45 PM
Thank you for the links I have been sharing it with several others who found it interesting too.

Illuminatus
October 21st, 2002, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix_Blue
What about dropping the used waste down abandoned oil wells. . ?

That would work too!

Just make sure that it really is empty... a lot of oil deposits are connected. Wells in one country could be tapping into the same resevoir across the border of another country! I don't know what would happen if radioactve material got into crude oil, it would probably be refined out with the heavier hydrocarbons during the refinery process, and maybe get made into vaseline or something... a scary prospect!

- Ill

Mythrel
October 21st, 2002, 04:34 PM
wow, that is a scary prospect...

Mythrel
October 21st, 2002, 04:35 PM
I say we do like in one of the Superman movies from the 80's...we shoot the nuclear waste to the sun...

Illuminatus
October 22nd, 2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Mythrel
I say we do like in one of the Superman movies from the 80's...we shoot the nuclear waste to the sun...

Great idea, except you'd burn up more energy disposing of the material than you got from the nuclear reactor in the first place! It's futile and inefficient. Now, if we had a space elevator, that would be different!

Xentor
April 24th, 2003, 06:07 PM
1) Fusion energy. Done to this day by our sun.
2) Green-house effect. Otherwise our planet wouldn't be inhabitable by several species, including humans.
3) Evolution. We tend to speed it up, manipulating genes within a few hours instead of a few generations.
4) Magic. The power to create life where there's only the correct amount of chemicals.

It should come as no surprise that nature had nuclear explosions long before humans existed. To put it more bluntly: it should come as no surprise that nature had anything long before humans even existed. Even nuclear energy is merely a physical reaction. If we can do it, it's bound to have occurred by accident.

(Look, Vespuci, I found it... India!)