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Isis
October 19th, 2002, 04:42 AM
Okay,


I'm in Cyprus working on this trip and a woman on my crew is a born again Xian. If I say the sky is blue, she wants it proven to her, and of course everyone is going to hell, and the rapture is coming, but I'm sure ya'll know that!

Anyway, I love to discuss things with people, does't matter who or what, as long as there is a free exchange of ideas. This woman wants to tell me, and anyone else that there opinion is wrong.

Yes, I have ignored her, and its gotten to the point where she's saying things just out loud enough for everyone to hear, and then trying to pretend and not having the balls to say anything out right!

Now, honestly, I laugh in her face, but she's insistent, and I'd like to know what you guys do when you deal with a freak like this?

I mean we're discussing Adolf Hitler, and she's telling me that he's a communist! I mean if its not one thing its another!

Anyway, what do you guys do when you deal with freaks like this?


Nikki

Valnorran
October 19th, 2002, 09:06 AM
Thank the gods I'm an antisocial introvert and rarely have to deal with these dorks!

Actually, if I'm stuck with someone who has nor respect or consideration for me, it's only a matter of time before I have no respect or consideration for them. As long as the person doesn't attack me, though, I generally leave them free to make fools of themselves. If someone tried to convince me Hitler was a communist, I would suggest that person read a history book. Of course, most die hard fundies belong to the "I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts" school of philosophy. Changing their minds is virtually impossible. You can't change her attitude or her mind, so I would suggest either keep laughing in her face or refuse to deal with her any more than absolutely necessary. How closely do you have to work with her? Is there a supervisor you can talk to who could convince her to behave with a little more decorum while working? I see no reason why you should have to subject yourself to such idiocy. If I didn't have to work closely with her, I'd just avoid her. If she asked why, I'd tell her my honest feelings on the subject. The older I get, the less willing I am to suffer fools gladly.

Willow_Raindancer
October 19th, 2002, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Isis

I have ignored her, and its gotten to the point where she's saying things just out loud enough for everyone to hear, and then trying to pretend and not having the balls to say anything out right!
Nikki

Don't lower yourself to having a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed LOL!
It's disrespectful to yourself;)

I agree with Valnorran, contact a supervisor BEFORE it becomes out of hand.

BrotherKrys
October 19th, 2002, 09:31 AM
First and foremost, If I understand you correctly, this person puts in her two cents whenever you get into a conversation with someone else. Thats just plain rude!

If it was me, I would just indicate to her that your not talking to her, your talking to someone else and that IF your not talking to her, what she has to say is Null and Void. Generally people like this love to have something contraversial and contrary to say about everything. In some twisted mind, its their way of having something in common with someone else and to draw attention onto themselves.

Dont bite... Just be politely and tell them to butt out. Eventually the silent treatment will communicate that unless you are talking to her, you dont care to hear her talk at all.

Its really an extreme last resort but you just cant argue with someone who basis everything on the fact that if you wernt there or didnt know the individual in person (even if the person is long dead) then what you have to say is just as valid as what they have to say. You cant talk to these people and generally there is little worth talking about.

These are the kind, to one degree or another, who believe that Dinasours where put on earth by satan to confuse us, that the earth is really only about 4500 years old and that heaven is an exclusive club with its own elevator that at any time will go "Ding" and the doors will swing wide open. And of course, they will be on the first ride up.

They live in a small little world and there is nothing you can really do save for spending lots and lots of time trying to win an argument with someone who wont believe anything you say.

Good luck.

Sowelu
October 19th, 2002, 10:15 AM
Born okay the first time:D

Yvonne Belisle
October 19th, 2002, 10:22 AM
Go to a supervisor and let them know provided you have asked her to stop that you consider it to be a form of harrassment. Then if she continues you have the right to say I told her not to do this that I consider it harrassment yet she continues to do this. Before this becomes a bad issue making work difficult you would like to resolve it.

shnen
October 19th, 2002, 11:33 PM
I run.

I run fast, I run far, and I don't look back at them... ;)


Nah, for real, I just ignore them... but if they get real annoying I ask them if tolerance and understanding are part of being xian... if they are supposed to respect one another, and if they aren't supposed to judge. That usually shuts them up.

You have to take their beliefs and use that against them to get them to back off. You dont want to crush them, just get them to shut the he11 up ;)

Gwion
October 19th, 2002, 11:58 PM
How about putting a binding spell on her mouth.

Or try "Instead of being Born Again why don't you just try growing up?"

"The trouble with Baptists is, they don't hold them under long enough."

Phoenix Blue
October 20th, 2002, 11:26 AM
I'm sorta with Gwion on this one.

THe woman needs to be counseled that her behavior is unacceptable. If you're in charge of the team, that responsibility falls to you, first and foremost. Since you're the one who has the problem with her, your first step should be to address her directly.

Let her know that her conduct is unacceptable, as it constitutes harassment. Let her know what will happen if she continues her behavior. Then, go to your boss and let your boss know that you talked with this woman, and what you said to her, so that your boss can back you up if the woman continues her moronic ways.

flar7
October 20th, 2002, 04:04 PM
Moderator Mode...

Just a reminder not to bash someone's path. Lets see if we can
help without bashing christianity while we are at it.

End of Moderator Mode...

st0rm
October 20th, 2002, 04:09 PM
look up some bible qoutes, and own her in her own subject, that usually shut xians up, did that to a preist once :D *proud*