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Bombur_Green
October 20th, 2002, 02:37 PM
One would think Sam-hane, but i've heard mention of Sow-in. Strange...

st0rm
October 20th, 2002, 03:03 PM
sa-win :D

licorice whip
October 23rd, 2002, 01:43 AM
i pronounce it sow-en. my friends say it differently, but the first time i ever heard it spoken was as sow-en, so it became a habit for me to say it like that.

catlin
October 24th, 2002, 10:00 AM
Hm, I have heard that both ways of pronounciation are used. I even have heard one version like So:wn (with a long o), would that also be correct?

Silverfern
October 25th, 2002, 11:55 AM
Its an Iish gaelic word and depending on where in Ireland it can be prenounced as sow an, soow an, or sow en.

I asked this same question to a friend of mine once He's Irish and speaks the Scottish and Irish gaelic. Their spelling and prunounciation is very strange :)

Kaylara
October 25th, 2002, 12:36 PM
I pronounce it Sow-en.

mol
October 29th, 2002, 06:56 PM
Sow (like a female cow) - ween (like, ugh, Halloween)

ian
December 26th, 2003, 11:58 AM
i`ve been told it was Sar-wen

Sylvan
December 26th, 2003, 02:27 PM
Sow (sounds like cow) en (like in enter)

Hoot
December 26th, 2003, 02:36 PM
sow (rhymes with cow) - on (as in the word "onto")

Twig
December 26th, 2003, 03:33 PM
N-e-w Y-e-a-r :shhhh:

:lol:

Peace,
Matrixdruid
:elf:

mothwench
December 27th, 2003, 08:48 AM
why, samhayne of course, after Sam Hain, the celtic god of outrageous rumours... :T
j/k, i pronounce it soWEEN like mol does. no, hang on... not like cow. like uh... no, go, show, etc.

Seamus MacNemi
December 30th, 2003, 02:20 PM
I thought a SOW was a female pig, :rollingla:

Rae ShadowWolf
December 30th, 2003, 02:32 PM
Interesting enough, the first time I heard it, was in the song "Samhain (Pagan Halloween)" by Inkubus Sukkubus and they pronounce it like Sow-wain and then Sa-wain.

I'm not sure HOW to pronounce it. LoL.

SylverStar
December 30th, 2003, 11:32 PM
I pronounce it Sow-in but than I pronouce most English words wrong. :)

branwen74
December 30th, 2003, 11:44 PM
I pronounce it sow-een

Faol
January 4th, 2004, 09:57 PM
In modern Irish, the pronunciation is:

s, (before/after a, o) = song -- never like visible or measure
a = father
mh (before/after a, o) = walrus, sowing [mh (before/after e, i) = silver]
ai = a in bat
n = n in nib

result ss ah ww aa nn

Mithrea
January 5th, 2004, 12:02 AM
I always thought mh made a 'v' sound--but I pronounce it:

Hal o ween :D

Goddess Rhiannon
January 5th, 2004, 12:16 AM
Sow-en

Lucius
January 5th, 2004, 12:18 AM
N-e-w Y-e-a-r :shhhh:

:lol:

Peace,
Matrixdruid
:elf:

that is soooooooooooo cute...exactly...Samhain is New Year...duh~! :hehehehe: Anyway, I pronounce it as "Sow-een" just like BranWen.

malltynos
January 5th, 2004, 06:59 AM
it really depends where in the gaelic speaking world you are:
sow-ain, sow - ehn, or saw - vin. Of course, we welsh pronounce it calan nos hela gwyllt anyway!
(snicker!)

mothwench
January 5th, 2004, 07:36 AM
it really depends where in the gaelic speaking world you are:
sow-ain, sow - ehn, or saw - vin. Of course, we welsh pronounce it calan nos hela gwyllt anyway!
(snicker!)
not fair! :hehehehe:
actually, thank the gods this is a message board, so you can't hear us all mispronounce the mabinogion (sp? see what i mean?) and stuff. i swear, your toes would curl. :lol:

malltynos
January 7th, 2004, 12:55 PM
hey, you can't hear me mispronounce it either!

Erithan
January 12th, 2004, 09:53 PM
As mentioned there is more than one correct pronunciation of the word. What is confusing is the mh (which was originally an m with a dot over it to indicate lenition, not an h, the h's just replaced the dots upon standardisation of the language because the printing presses whined about it being too expensive to print the dots over the letters you can lenite) depending on dialect can be lenited to a v sound or a w sound (just like bh) as I believe someone stated earlier in the thread.

Emphasis in Gaelic almost always comes on the first syllable as well.

Hope this helps some :)

pawnman
January 13th, 2004, 12:28 AM
I've always heard it as sow-en. That's how I say it, and probably will to my dying day. Of course, I may get to the summerlands and be told by the Lady "You pronounce Samhain wrong all these years. Try and remedy that in your next life, ok?" :lol:

mol
January 13th, 2004, 11:15 AM
Sow (rhymes with OWWW I hurt my finger!)
Een (as in Halloween)

Rockprincess
January 13th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Yet another option...in Scotch Gaelic, it's Sah-ven (mh = v) :colorful:

Elfa Wylde
January 13th, 2004, 01:47 PM
it really depends where in the gaelic speaking world you are:
sow-ain, sow - ehn, or saw - vin. Of course, we welsh pronounce it calan nos hela gwyllt anyway!
(snicker!)


Let's add the Erin Island's dialect of pornouncing it Sah-VIN. LOL
That's where my Gran'pa was from... hence... i learned it frm him.

amberwolf
January 13th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Sow (rhymes with OWWW I hurt my finger!)
Een (as in Halloween)

I pronounce it the same as you Mol :):) :colorful:

kewlhippiechick
January 13th, 2004, 08:47 PM
I've always heard it as sow-en. That's how I say it, and probably will to my dying day. Of course, I may get to the summerlands and be told by the Lady "You pronounce Samhain wrong all these years. Try and remedy that in your next life, ok?" :lol:
That's always how I was told to pronounce it... :lol: The lady can slap both of us if we're wrong!

mol
January 14th, 2004, 11:04 AM
I pronounce it the same as you Mol :):) :colorful:
Well then you are all right in my book!

amberwolf
January 14th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Why thank you :):)

Myrddyn Emrys
January 15th, 2004, 04:21 AM
it really depends where in the gaelic speaking world you are:
sow-ain, sow - ehn, or saw - vin. Of course, we welsh pronounce it calan nos hela gwyllt anyway!
(snicker!)
And then that, of course, depends on what area of Wales, and then you gotta get the pronunciation of Welsh right...

I know the New Years Night Festival Part....but what's hela? Tepin bach Cymraeg...

JuniperSigne
February 3rd, 2004, 06:25 PM
Sow (like a female cow) - ween (like, ugh, Halloween)

That's how I pronounce it to...I think there are several ways though.

Dorchadas Siofra
February 3rd, 2004, 06:37 PM
Sow (rhymes with cow) en

reqq
April 29th, 2004, 02:39 PM
sow-een----any one else out there trying to learn irish gaelic- it is a pain by myself- would love a study partner

Shanti
April 29th, 2004, 02:47 PM
Ok could you clarify the question by answering a few questions for me please?

What country,
what section,
what group,
what dialect,
and what click?

:D

Leander
May 1st, 2004, 05:15 PM
As a youthful and possibly foolish newbie pagan, I used to pronounce it as Sam-hine. Now though I pronounce it as Sow-en. I'm not quite sure why though...

Darkblade78
May 2nd, 2004, 12:45 AM
For one odd reason or another, I've always pronounced it as SOW-vahn.

StephanieAine
July 8th, 2004, 01:38 PM
... with a 'v' sound! (the resident Celtic Christian's way of saying it <G>... oh, and I'm Irish-American, if it makes a difference).

Faeawyn
July 8th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Sow-en

StephanieAine
July 10th, 2004, 07:48 PM
:dancy: :jamsessio :dancy:


You say Samhain, I say Samhain... you say Samhain, I say Samhain;
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