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Blu Heather
October 22nd, 2002, 07:55 PM
I apologize if this has been answered before...but this is my question:

On this other board I belong to someone posted this about Samhain:

The name Halloween means "hallowed" or " Holy evening" it takes place on on October 31st as a way to celebrate autumn. The ancient Druids had a great festival to celebrate autumn which began at midnight on the 31st and lasted through the next day, November 1st.
They believed that on this night their great God of death,called Saman, called together all the wicked souls who had died during the year and whose punishment had been to take up the life in the bodies of animals. Of course, this gathering frightened the simple minded people of that time. So they lit huge bonfires ank kept a watchout for these evil spirits. There are still people in certain parts of Europe who believe that this is all still true!
then after I posted a post with info on Samhain I found at http://pagan-home.com/samhain/samhain.html and witchvox.com:

Actually folk the name Saman IS the actual name!

I did quite a bit of research on this subject and the name samhain is an adapted name from SAMAN from the Druids.

NO offence but everyone always assumes that the Mythology out there today on the subject is the original spelling but it is not.
and eventually this:
Another note:

Saman was a god of the druids,which was adopted by the celts who did not understand the original reason for the celebration, then it was adopted by other European countries and people, who then in turn brought the idea to the United States with them on the first crossing.

All this is researched from the Library at Oxford.

I'm not hoping I'm right and she's wrong...but I haven't come across anything she has said on anything I've read on Samhain...did I just miss that part somewhere? Was Samhain adapted from the Druid Saman? Is the practice she is stating the origins of Samhain?

Any clarification would be very much appreciated.

Blu Heather
October 22nd, 2002, 10:53 PM
Never mind...I asked her to post where she got her information from and she told me that she didn't get it from anywhere off the net and she was going on a paper she had written in high school....which was a while ago since she is at least in her 30s.

Every website she found was either highly christian biased and then contradicted themself...so I'm just sticking with the belief that her information isn't correct...

She even posted a site which was nothing but conspiracy theories...I thought that was funny :lol: How is anyone suppose to take THAT seriously? :lol:


oops typos...

Demeter
October 22nd, 2002, 11:01 PM
Check out this website ....

http://www.illusions.com/halloween/


It takes apart that whole set of information quite nicely. Very thorough research. Most of what you're citing comes from anti-Catholic, anti-Irish propaganda, and there is nothings supporting it.

This site is listed on "The Best Christian Links" and has several other Christian links. The author is a professional folklorist and musician, a Christian who nevertheless has written and performed neo-pagan songs. I have owned one of his tapes (Celtic Circle Dance) for years and practically played it to death. Now I'm going to get the CD!

Blu Heather
October 22nd, 2002, 11:16 PM
Thanks soooooooooo much! I'm going to show her...but she's stubborn so far every time I've pointed out something wrong with one of her sources she's found another one just as bad...lol

MidnightSun
October 23rd, 2002, 06:48 PM
I just read about this in school today. :) It was called Samain by the Druids.

Demeter
October 23rd, 2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Blu Heather
Thanks soooooooooo much! I'm going to show her...but she's stubborn so far every time I've pointed out something wrong with one of her sources she's found another one just as bad...lol

True. Some people cannot be confused with facts; their minds are already made up. Very sad.

Unless you really like bashing into a brick wall, you might just want to ignore it.

Blu Heather
October 23rd, 2002, 11:42 PM
Yeah I just posted the link you gave me and said it was the last site I was going to post and that I was done trying to search for the information and stuff....

Luckily she finally admitted that maybe her information was not correct...but it was all good.