Do you Hex?

[~Belladonna~]

As it says on the tin - Do you Hex?

This is not an ethical debate on whether it's right or wrong, just whether or not you do it or not?

I Hex when it's needed, do you?

Also, if you do, how often would you say you do it and for what reason?

I don't Hex that much but only because the need hasn't arisen that often - if it did then I would :deviltail :brew:
What warrants a Hex? If someone pisses me off that much then I'll do it, simple!

And you?

[new_hope]

I don't. I've been in a couple of sitiuations where I've wanted to...
But I won't do it. :smile:

[Son of Goddess]

I have planned on it many times, but have only done it once or twice now. But for me its more of a request for the Gods to take care of it.

The only reason for it in my book is a threat to me or my family.

[Tryad]

Yes, I do hex. I've done it a grand total of four times in my life. I didn't do it randomly, I gave it great thought and made certain of my reasons so that I could live with myself. Given the reasons, I'd do it again.:thumbsup:

tryad

[princeether]

I would never do it.

[Shanti]

What by your perspective exactly is a hex?

A defensive maneuver to stop an unwanted action?
An aggressive act toward someone for a thrill?
A vindictive action?
An act of power toward another?
A spell, a damming, a thought, an act?

Knowing what a hex is would make answering the question, "do you hex", more easily responded to.

Thus I can not answer the question.

[Nox_Mortus]

I've done bindings and simmilar things that could be considered malevolent by some, but it's not something I do regularly or lightly.

[Darth Brooks]

I've thrown hexes a few times. I will even throw a death curse at someone if I find it necessary. But this is only to be used as a last resort and only under extreme circumstances. I would much rather resolve my differences with people peacefully, but when it comes to those with whom I cannot reason and who simply will not stop endangering my loved ones, I have no problem using heka to destroy them whatsoever. Just understand I'm very cautious about the way in which I go about doing this, and I do not go running around looking for excuses to hex people.

[BlackLili]

Yep.

[Faelon_Moon_Hawk]

I would if the situation called for it, that is if anyone/thing harmed/attempted to harm those I hold dear.

[new_hope]

What by your perspective exactly is a hex?

A defensive maneuver to stop an unwanted action?
An aggressive act toward someone for a thrill?
A vindictive action?
An act of power toward another?
A spell, a damming, a thought, an act?

Knowing what a hex is would make answering the question, "do you hex", more easily responded to.

Thus I can not answer the question.

If it is a defensive action, then I would not see a problem with it, I've just never come across a sitiuation where I would have needed it.
But, no matter how tempting, I wouldn't do use a hex for revenge or a vindictive purpose...

[~Belladonna~]

What by your perspective exactly is a hex?

A defensive maneuver to stop an unwanted action?
An aggressive act toward someone for a thrill?
A vindictive action?
An act of power toward another?
A spell, a damming, a thought, an act?

Knowing what a hex is would make answering the question, "do you hex", more easily responded to.

Thus I can not answer the question.

By Hex I mean, to knowingly hurt someone else because they've hurt you in some way or another.

This is also why I asked for what reason would you Hex because everyones boundries are different i.e. some would Hex for very trivial reasons and others wouldn't do it unless their family had been hurt, etc. Me personally, well that all depends on how bad the person has p****d me off.

[watersprite]

Yes, I have hexed. And I have cursed. But the biggest thing that has worked for me is binding. Once I bound the person that was causing me the most trouble, the psychic attacks have stopped completely. I have found that to be quite interesting.

[Shaedema]

I have and probably will again if the need arises. Of course the only reason I'd even consider it is if there was someone 'out to get' my Mate or Pack. And if binding them didn't work to warn them off.

[Shanti]

By Hex I mean, to knowingly hurt someone else because they've hurt you in some way or another.

This is also why I asked for what reason would you Hex because everyones boundries are different i.e. some would Hex for very trivial reasons and others wouldn't do it unless their family had been hurt, etc. Me personally, well that all depends on how bad the person has p****d me off.
Thank you.

In that case, a vengeance hex, sure!
Sometimes I may be the one to be another's Karma.
Cause and effect...you kick me, I may do nothing, I may run away licking my wounds or I may kick back!

Also, I believe when we think negatively toward someone, the quiet nasty things we say to ourselves in our private minds, when we are angry, we are hexing them because the power of thought is mighty strong.

[Chaos Hawk]

No, I don't hex. If I am pissed off I'll tell the person off. I don't waste energy hexing or anything. I directly make them miserable.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Ahem...I am Irish...so...Yeeessss...:bigredgri

An example...for me , the rhyme , and intonation ,
is most important , along with my intent...

By Yer Deeds And Actions Free ,
Ill Yer Manner And Ornery ,
Rude You Have Been To Me ,
So Now By My Own Decree ,
By The Power Of Three Times Three ,
Hexed Ye Are And A Pox On Thee !

As I tell certain people...you do not want to piss me off...:uhhuhuh:

[Sakurako]

Yep I've done it once. If someones trying to hurt me or mine I've no problem with it. I don't do it if someones just pisses me off, I prefer to just tell them off to their face. It would have to be something I couldn't fix via 'mundane' methods. Plus hexing requies alot of concentration for me so I find it alot easier to just confront any issues I or they have with them directly. :bigredgri

[Shawn Blackwolf]

In my Tradition , we are required to give warning to cease and
desist actions , before they piss us off...

If at all possible...:uhhuhuh:

I have no problem telling someone they have pissed me off...

However , if they are truly that foolish , they mostly would
not care...so pulling the rug out , from under their feet...

Gives me great joy...:bigredgri...

[Philosophia]

I'll do it if I have to and usually to protect my loved ones.

[~Elise~]

What the heck does being Irish have to do with it? Are you saying the Irish hex more?

Just wondering, not trying to be contrary.

Elise

[~Audra~]

the person has to make me mad first, of course...and then, as they say, "hell hath no fury"...

of course, i have to think of the repercussions first, being a firm believer in the law of return...sometimes, it doesn't matter...if i'm THAT mad at somebody, i get blinded and turn all-out "berserker" but it takes a while to make me that mad and by then i've given every cautionary warning i can...

one thing i inherited from my dear ol dad: his temper...at least i can control it to a certain extent....

[Shawn Blackwolf]

We have a long "history" , of being said to have very
quick tempers...the old "Irish Temper"...so , yes , we
do have a "habit" , at least some of us...

Of casting hexes , and curses , easily...:bigredgri



What the heck does being Irish have to do with it? Are you saying the Irish hex more?

Just wondering, not trying to be contrary.

Elise

[~Audra~]

We have a long "history" , of being said to have very
quick tempers...the old "Irish Temper"...so , yes , we
do have a "habit" , at least some of us...

Of casting hexes , and curses , easily...:bigredgri

but you sound so sexy when you're mad...:uhhuhuh:

yeah, i know...sexy and deadly...isn't that kind of repetitive? :hahugh:

[Carri]

I have planned on it many times, but have only done it once or twice now. But for me its more of a request for the Gods to take care of it.

Yeah, me too, that's kinda what hurt my faith.

What by your perspective exactly is a hex?

A defensive maneuver to stop an unwanted action?
An aggressive act toward someone for a thrill?
A vindictive action?
An act of power toward another?
A spell, a damming, a thought, an act?

Knowing what a hex is would make answering the question, "do you hex", more easily responded to.

Thus I can not answer the question.
If thoughts count then I'm a marvolous hexer!:hahugh:


By Hex I mean, to knowingly hurt someone else because they've hurt you in some way or another.

I've done this with no magic involved.


Also, I believe when we think negatively toward someone, the quiet nasty things we say to ourselves in our private minds, when we are angry, we are hexing them because the power of thought is mighty strong.
Again I'm good at this but I hadn't ever thought of it as a hex.

Ahem...I am Irish...so...Yeeessss...:bigredgri

An example...for me , the rhyme , and intonation ,
is most important , along with my intent...

By Yer Deeds And Actions Free ,
Ill Yer Manner And Ornery ,
Rude You Have Been To Me ,
So Now By My Own Decree ,
By The Power Of Three Times Three ,
Hexed Ye Are And A Pox On Thee !

As I tell certain people...you do not want to piss me off...:uhhuhuh:
Oh! A Pox! A Pox! How delightful a pox!:smileroll

Are you saying the Irish hex more?

Elise
My thought too, that maybe what's up with the mom in law!_whistle_ Did I just say that?

[Sage Rainsong]

Sure if nothing good is on T.V.

[~Elise~]

Then, by that defination...redheads would be more likely to cast hexes, as well. Or Italians, (Lords know I don't want to encur the Evil Eye), or the Scottish...etc.

I think it has to do more with the person than their ancestory...JMO, however and YMMV.

For the record, I don't think I stated it...yes, I hex too. (not that that fact would surprise anyone who even remotely knows me)

Elise

[brigidrose]

No, never did. Wanted to at times in my life, but sent them love instead. ( THAT was hard ) :)

[zombi]

Sure do.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

You are correct...in my experience...Irish , Scottish , and Italians...
have been more likely to cast hexes...or curses...

I have no problem stating what I stated , and standing by it ,100%...

I was born in Irish Philly...grew up , in the 50's , in an Irish neighborhood...

You are welcome to your opinion...but I grew up with the ideal
of the Irish Temper...and yeah...I had some red hair , when I was
younger...:bigredgri

And I know very well , not only how to cast the Evil Eye...but how to break any wards , or barriers , against it...:uhhuhuh:

And yes...in certain ways...we are similar in temperment ...



Then, by that defination...redheads would be more likely to cast hexes, as well. Or Italians, (Lords know I don't want to encur the Evil Eye), or the Scottish...etc.

I think it has to do more with the person than their ancestory...JMO, however and YMMV.

For the record, I don't think I stated it...yes, I hex too. (not that that fact would surprise anyone who even remotely knows me)

Elise

[Skatha]

I've never had to hex. If someone deliberately hurts me, then they almost ALWAYS get what's coming to them without me having to do anything accept to kindly and respectfully ask the Gods to please make sure that everyone gets what they deserve.

[~Elise~]

wasn't trying to argue (imagine that! and don't faint) just questioning the stereotypes.

Elise

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I can appreciate that , Skatha ;

That is your path...I blaze my own...I shall never bow , to a
god , nor goddess...not only do I believe they do not ask for
that...for me , IMO , IMK , IME , that is the path of the weak...:uhhuhuh:


I've never had to hex. If someone deliberately hurts me, then they almost ALWAYS get what's coming to them without me having to do anything accept to kindly and respectfully ask the Gods to please make sure that everyone gets what they deserve.

[new_hope]

[QUOTE=Skatha;3847870]I've never had to hex. If someone deliberately hurts me, then they almost ALWAYS get what's coming...QUOTE]

:uhhuhuh:

I figure that karama exists for a reason, and I don't like to mess with it.. :smile: But that's just me.. :)

[Shawn Blackwolf]

But you just did !

...ROTFLMAO...

You changed karma , to karam...:uhhuhuh:

Now , what are you going to do ?


:uhhuhuh:

I figure that karam exists for a reason, and I don't like to mess with it.. :smile:

[~Elise~]

she can edit her post!!!

[SammieAnn]

If the situation calls for a hex then yes i would or have.

[new_hope]

But you just did !

...ROTFLMAO...

You changed karma , to karam...:uhhuhuh:

Now , what are you going to do ?

Use my exeptionally bad typing and spelling as an excuse. I think you'd find that the majority of my posts are editied, I could leave the mistakes in place, but no one would have any idea what i was on about.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Good enough for me !


Use my exeptionally bad typing and spelling as an excuse. I think you'd find that the majority of my posts are editied, I could leave the mistakes in place, but no one would have any idea what i was on about.

[kaosxmage]

It's funny you should ask. I'll be delivering a curse with some funk on it this very evening. I've always waited until I've been pushed too far, and a certain former employer has now gone too far. She will not be the same again. I assure you. :evilway:

Carry on!

--Kaos :smoke:

[new_hope]

Good enough for me !

:lol:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I knew I liked you for many a good reason !

Carry on...:bigredgri




It's funny you shsould ask. I'll be delivering a a curse with some funk on it this very evening. I've always waited until I've been pushed too far, and a certain former employer has now gone too far. She will not be the same again. I assure you. :evilway:

Carry on!

--Kaos :smoke:

[ignescentphoenix]

I did once, and I'll never do it again.

[Carri]

It's funny you shsould ask. I'll be delivering a a curse with some funk on it this very evening. I've always waited until I've been pushed too far, and a certain former employer has now gone too far. She will not be the same again. I assure you. :evilway:

Carry on!

--Kaos :smoke:
So what is the etiquette on this? Do we wish you well? Happy hexing?:hahugh:

[Rudas Starblaze]

yes. i hex.
did i really need to post my answer in this thread?

[kaosxmage]

So what is the etiquette on this? Do we wish you well? Happy hexing?:hahugh:

This particular person has manipulated enough people and businesses that it has cost jobs and businesses to fail. In her position it's quite easy. She has avoided exposure despite investigations, and managed to pin her crimes on others. No, it wasn't me. I took part in two investigations, and now that I'm gone she has been on a mission to destroy my reputation. Whether it works matters not. Once words are spoken they remain in the mind of the listener and give seed to doubt.

I'll work to expose her web of intricate lies to those that can ruin her. And because it's me, I'll take away all of her sound dreams until I read her fight against insanity in the paper. Yes, I'm that kind of guy when you push that far.

With blood and fire of course ...

--Kaos

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Hilarious !

I always say...

"In your dreams" , to people who piss me off...

...kinda funny...:bigredgri




And because it's me, I'll take away all of her sound dreams until I read her fight against insanity in the paper. Yes, I'm that kind of guy when you push that far.

With blood and fire of course ...

--Kaos

[Full_Moon_Rising]

Well.... Mum doesnt like us cursing; like new_hope, she believes Karma fixes everything...However, I believe that in exceptional circumstances, Karma needs a helping hand... :)

[Shawn Blackwolf]

And just what does she think of your avatar ?


Well.... Mum doesnt like us cursing; like new_hope, she believes Karma fixes everything...However, I believe that in exceptional circumstances, Karma needs a helping hand... :)

[zombi]

yes. i hex.
did i really need to post my answer in this thread?

i think you could've responded with "duh" :thumbsup:

[new_hope]

Well.... Mum doesnt like us cursing; like new_hope, she believes Karma fixes everything...However, I believe that in exceptional circumstances, Karma needs a helping hand... :)

You DO realise that phyical violence doesn't count as 'giving karama a helping hand' right? :lol:

[skilly-nilly]

Ahem...I am Irish...so...Yeeessss...:bigredgriu
As I tell certain people...you do not want to piss me off...:uhhuhuh:


What the heck does being Irish have to do with it? Are you saying the Irish hex more?

Just wondering, not trying to be contrary.

Elise


Then, by that defination...redheads would be more likely to cast hexes, as well. Or Italians, (Lords know I don't want to encur the Evil Eye), or the Scottish...etc.

I think it has to do more with the person than their ancestory...JMO, however and YMMV.

For the record, I don't think I stated it...yes, I hex too. (not that that fact would surprise anyone who even remotely knows me)

Elise


I completely agree that ancestry is not the reason people do things. People choose to do whatever they do.

It's a personal choice and saying that their ethnicity makes them behave a certain way or that they are allowed to behave in a certain way because of their ancestry is bigoted.

As well, it is not taking responsibility for one's own actions:
I lost my temper because I'm Irish
I'm a drunk because I'm Irish
I'm feckless because I'm Irish
I gamble because I'm Irish
I eat potatoes because I'm Irish
I got in a fight because I'm Irish
hmmmmmmm, any other stereotypes?


Those are all ways of saying 'I'm not responsible for my behaviour because of my ethnicity' and that's just a load of bualtrach.

I believe that everything you do is your own personal choice.

I don't 'hex' per se because I think Magicing creates a tie that I don't want between me and an evil-doer. Because I (weakly) believe in the Gods, I just express a wish that the evil-doer gets what they deserve.

Self-defence? Other story.
Harsh language? No problem.

Wait! :boing: There's another one:

I get to freely give out to people because I'mmmmmmmm (wait for it) .... Irish!!

No, in actual fact I give out to people because I have a nasty sharp tongue under insufficient control and I am wholly responsible for everything I say.

[princeether]

No, never did. Wanted to at times in my life, but sent them love instead. ( THAT was hard ) :)

This is always the best thing to do IMO, love is stronger than anything else.


I've never had to hex. If someone deliberately hurts me, then they almost ALWAYS get what's coming to them without me having to do anything accept to kindly and respectfully ask the Gods to please make sure that everyone gets what they deserve.

I Couldn't agree more.

[Windsmith]

I don't, but it has nothing to do with ethics. I just don't believe they work. I'd rather put my energy into something useful than into wallowing in negativity.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I completely agree that ancestry is not the reason people do things. People choose to do whatever they do.

It's a personal choice and saying that their ethnicity makes them behave a certain way or that they are allowed to behave in a certain way because of their ancestry is bigoted.


That is your opinion...not "TRUTH"...

We have gone over this before...both Irish...different opinions ,
stances , and I was raised by very non bigoted parents , and
I myself , am the same way...non bigoted...

As I said...the saying was everywhere , when I grew up...

I saw the Irish Temper flare up , all the time...and that was
what it was called...doesn't matter whether you like it...

You have disagreed with me , on most things , since I joined
MW...that is perfectly fine...I stand by my statement...




No, in actual fact I give out to people because I have a nasty sharp tongue under insufficient control and I am wholly responsible for everything I say.


...ROTFLMAO...your own words...:bigredgri

[WitchJezebel]

We have a long "history" , of being said to have very
quick tempers...the old "Irish Temper"...so , yes , we
do have a "habit" , at least some of us...

Of casting hexes , and curses , easily...:bigredgri

The Irish aren't the only ones with quick tempers, I've seen Latinos with some pretty quick and fiery tempers - you should have hung out with my grandmother when she was alive. Just because you're Irish and have seen flare ups doesn't make yours any more feisty than someone else's or even mine. Your posts give the appearance that you're putting yourself up on a pedestal that you probably don't really deserve. Your Irish hexes are not any "better" than other race's hexes. We all have abilities and to pigeonhole an Irish person's abilities over anothers is bigoted.

*Edited to add* To answer the question, yes I have hexed and I'd do it again if I had to. I've felt the need to do it twice in my life and I've never regretted it. But you REALLY have to do something bad to for me to get to that point; like a serious personal affront or cruelty.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Absolutely...some races , and cultures are known for being hot blooded...again...
I grew up , with these sayings all around...they still are , and as they are not
derogatory , or bigoted , I do not feel they are wrong...

If others do...that is their problem , not mine...

If you , or others read into my posts the pedestal idea...again , not my problem...
just a misreading of my intent...:uhhuhuh:

So...believe as you wish...as my Irish mother said...

"No skin off my nose"...:bigredgri



The Irish aren't the only ones with quick tempers, I've seen Latinos with some pretty quick and fiery tempers - you should have hung out with my grandmother when she was alive. Just because you're Irish and have seen flare ups doesn't make yours any more feisty than someone else's or even mine. Your posts give the appearance that you're putting yourself up on a pedestal that you probably don't really deserve. Your Irish hexes are not any "better" than other race's hexes. We all have abilities and to pigeonhole an Irish person's abilities over anothers is bigoted.

*Edited to add* To answer the question, yes I have hexed and I'd do it again if I had to. I've felt the need to do it twice in my life and I've never regretted it. But you REALLY have to do something bad to for me to get to that point; like a serious personal affront or cruelty.

[skilly-nilly]

Ahem...I am Irish...so...Yeeessss...:bigredgri


What the heck does being Irish have to do with it? Are you saying the Irish hex more?

Just wondering, not trying to be contrary.

Elise


We have a long "history" , of being said to have very quick tempers...the old "Irish Temper"...so , yes , we do have a "habit" , at least some of us...Of casting hexes , and curses , easily...:bigredgri


Then, by that defination...redheads would be more likely to cast hexes, as well. Or Italians, (Lords know I don't want to encur the Evil Eye), or the Scottish...etc.

I think it has to do more with the person than their ancestory...JMO, however and YMMV.

Elise


You are correct...in my experience...Irish , Scottish , and Italians...have been more likely to cast hexes...or curses...I have no problem stating what I stated , and standing by it ,100%..


People choose to do whatever they do..


That is your opinion...not "TRUTH"...We have gone over this before...both Irish...different opinions , stances , and I was raised by very non bigoted parents , and I myself , am the same way...non bigoted

As I said...the saying was everywhere , when I grew up...I saw the Irish Temper flare up , all the time...and that was what it was called...doesn't matter whether you like it...


Your Irish hexes are not any "better" than other race's hexes. We all have abilities and to pigeonhole an Irish person's abilities over anothers is bigoted.



Absolutely...some races , and cultures are known for being hot blooded...again I grew up , with these sayings all around...they still are , and as they are not derogatory , or bigoted , I do not feel they are wrong...If others do...that is their problem , not mine...

I don't think that saying people are responsible for their own actions really qualifies as an opinion....

All the cultures I am familiar with throw curses. There's the Irish, yes, but there's also Voodoo curses and Pennsylvania Dutch hexes and Navaho corpse powder and Scandinavian negative rune-work--- there's a bunch of examples of cultures that both lose their tempers and work curses that have nothing at-tall to do with the Irish. I feel sure that if I knew about more cultures I would be able to give other examples. I think that cursing has nothing at all to do with one's ethnicity but everything to do with human-ness.

Really, step back from yourself for a moment.

Growing up in an ethnic neighborhood, you heard comments about that ethnicity. What you grew up hearing isn't automatically right and true. If that were true then there's a lot of post-fundamentalist Pagans that are in a lot of trouble.

You've known short-tempered people. Their excuse for losing their tempers was that they're 'Irish'. That's bigoted.

They lost their tempers because they didn't choose to control them. It is the choice of the bad-tempered person to act out, saying 'but I'm Irish' doesn't mean you can act out an ethnic stereotype and not be responsible for your actions.

If you curse someone you, as an individual, choose to do it.




I give out to people because I have a nasty sharp tongue under insufficient control and I am wholly responsible for everything I say.


You have disagreed with me , on most things , since I joined MW...that is perfectly fine...I stand by my statement...

ROTFLMAO...your own words...:bigredgri

No, I've never said word one about the adding-up-words thing, the ott 'I lurve sex' thing, your 'poetry', the excessive sig, you-tube abuse....there's lots of things I've never commented on.

I think it's important to follow the rules of where you are, you've never seen the nasty sharp tongue here.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I don't think that saying people are responsible for their own actions really qualifies as an opinion....


Never specifically said I did not agree with this one statement...

I was refering to the rest of your post...I am just not so anal retentive ,
I cared to earmark , anthing I might have agreed with...

Which admittedly , is rare , regarding your posts...




Really, step back from yourself for a moment.


I would recommend the same to you...I don't agree that what I said was
bigoted...I never said other cultures did not get mad...nor that
they did not curse...I do not care one bit , whether you , nor any
other person , likes the term , or idea of Irish Temper or not...

So get used to it...you are never going to convince me you are right
and your attempts are , to me , IMO , quite hilarious !

...:bigredgri...




You've known short-tempered people. Their excuse for losing their tempers was that they're 'Irish'.


It is not an "excuse"...It is an Irish Temper...they are Irish...

Therefore it is an Irish Temper...:uhhuhuh:...:bigredgri







No, I've never said word one about the adding-up-words thing, the ott 'I lurve sex' thing, your 'poetry', the excessive sig, you-tube abuse....there's lots of things I've never commented on.


And I would not give a rat's ass if you did...because :

1. My Tradition , not yours...

2. I do love Sex...always will...got a problem with that ?
Many of us talk about that , within rules , on MW...

3. My poetry ? Sometimes you crack me up...hilarious !

4. My sig is no worse than others I have seen...sheesh...:smileroll

5. I have not seen any rules...If there are , I do believe many in the "What are you
listening to now" thread , or "What's on your mind" thread , set precedent long ago...

I only recently started posting videos...I believe December was my first...:uhhuhuh:...LOL...


And yeah...I just agreed with your own words , as far as your "nasty
sharp tongue under insufficient control"...:bigredgri

I , myself , would not have said that...as I have , though difficult at times , tried to respect you...:smileroll

Now...shall you get over it , and shall the thread move on ?

Or not...:boing:

[Philosophia]

5. I have not seen any rules...If there are , I do believe many in the "What are you listening to now" thread , or "What's on your mind" thread , set precedent long ago...

Just to step in...there is a rule and that is called "respect". Anything that you think steps over that line, you can report it. :smile:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Thanks , Philosophia...I appreciate that...

Perhaps if you know of any rules regarding you tube , you could
personally pm me...or link me...thanks in advance !


Just to step in...there is a rule and that is called "respect". Anything that you think steps over that line, you can report it. :smile:

[Owd Scrat]

Sure thing, if it's called for.

[Teresa]

:uhhuhuh: Those that know me already know my answer to this so Doh! :uhhuhuh:

[Kraheera]

I don't hex against an individual, per se...

I do, however, gather energy to bring the criminals to justice that harm children in my area. I ask the gods to bring the guilty to justice, one way or the other.

It is pretty rare for me to want to harm any individual personally, (Other than the occasional "grrr, I just want to strangle that annoying coworker).

[Carri]

This particular person has manipulated enough people and businesses that it has cost jobs and businesses to fail. In her position it's quite easy. She has avoided exposure despite investigations, and managed to pin her crimes on others. No, it wasn't me. I took part in two investigations, and now that I'm gone she has been on a mission to destroy my reputation. Whether it works matters not. Once words are spoken they remain in the mind of the listener and give seed to doubt.

I'll work to expose her web of intricate lies to those that can ruin her. And because it's me, I'll take away all of her sound dreams until I read her fight against insanity in the paper. Yes, I'm that kind of guy when you push that far.

With blood and fire of course ...

--Kaos
Sounds like you need to let her have it! So if there is not a set ettiquitte I will wish you Happy Hexing. May you go forth, conquer much and hex well.

How's that for a new ettiquitte tradition?

[iceskater12]

If I even think that something I'm doing (magick wise) could affect another person in a negative way then I don't do it.

[Phoenix Blue]

I do. Not frequently, and one that I sent out last month was the first I've done in years. But I do hex, when I believe it's warranted.

[Rick]

Do you Hex/Curse?

Well... yeah...

[ignescentphoenix]

Geez, I thought it was uncommon for people to do hexs.:hairred:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Depends what Tradition ...:bigredgri


Geez, I thought it was uncommon for people to do hexs.:hairred:

[Phoenix Blue]

Geez, I thought it was uncommon for people to do hexs.:hairred:
*Shrugs* Pagans aren't all love-and-light. Even a saint can only be pushed so far.

[ignescentphoenix]

Depends what Tradition ...:bigredgri

[quote=ignescentphoenix;3852106]Geez, I thought it was uncommon for people to do hexs.:hairred:


*gulp* :hahugh:


*Shrugs* Pagans aren't all love-and-light. Even a saint can only be pushed so far.


true, very true.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Oh , how I thrive on those gulps...thank you !

...ROTFLMAO !...



*gulp* :hahugh:

[Clair de la Lune]

In my Tradition , we are required to give warning to cease and
desist actions , before they piss us off...

If at all possible...:uhhuhuh:

I have no problem telling someone they have pissed me off...

However , if they are truly that foolish , they mostly would
not care...so pulling the rug out , from under their feet...

Gives me great joy...:bigredgri...



Well, I know never to rub you the wrong way! ;)

For me, I have only hexed two people that I can think of and that was very strongly in my head, over and over again, deliberately. These people had caused myself and my family great suffering and at least one of them posed as a direct threat.

As a rule, I generally try to work problems out with people before they ever get to that point, or just walk away if I can. It is usually not worth it. I find that in order for a curse or hex to work, it not only takes a toll on the creator of it emotionally and physically, but other things tend to go wrong in order to compensate for the other person's misery that is being delivered deliberately, even if it is seemingly "deserved" because they acted in a bad way. I am not convinced that putting a hex or curse on them makes it right. Perhaps being a role model and cleansing my own heart of the hate, anguish, pain, fear, turmoil, and the power of their actions, and actually forgiving them would work better....and I generally find that once I do that and the drama dissolves, life is better in all directions.

[ignescentphoenix]

Oh , how I thrive on those gulps...thank you !

...ROTFLMAO !...


Just remember who gave you karma on your rap song. :toofless:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Understood , Clair...and appreciated , for who you are , at
present , and your choices !

Oh , if MW knew me , in my days of the peace loving hippie !

"I am sorry , mom and dad , but if someone came in the house ,
and tried to kill us , I just couldn't hurt them...I believe in non
violence"...ROTFLMAO...and crying...:uhhuhuh:

Now ? **** with me , my friends , or family...you are ****ed !




As a rule, I generally try to work problems out with people before they ever get to that point, or just walk away if I can. It is usually not worth it. I find that in order for a curse or hex to work, it not only takes a toll on the creator of it emotionally and physically, but other things tend to go wrong in order to compensate for the other person's misery that is being delivered deliberately, even if it is seemingly "deserved" because they acted in a bad way. I am not convinced that putting a hex or curse on them makes it right. Perhaps being a role model and cleansing my own heart of the hate, anguish, pain, fear, turmoil, and the power of their actions, and actually forgiving them would work better....and I generally find that once I do that and the drama dissolves, life is better in all directions.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

You in my hood...and my clan...:uhhuhuh:

Just sayin'...:smileroll



Just remember who gave you karma on your rap song. :toofless:

[Clair de la Lune]

Understood , Clair...and appreciated , for who you are , at
present , and your choices !

Oh , if MW knew me , in my days of the peace loving hippie !

"I am sorry , mom and dad , but if someone came in the house ,
and tried to kill us , I just couldn't hurt them...I believe in non
violence"...ROTFLMAO...and crying...:uhhuhuh:

Now ? hug with me , my friends , or family...you are huged !

Don't misunderstand me....
If someone broke into my house and tried to hurt us, don't think for a minute that I don't believe in beating the everloving crap out of 'em! :T

[ignescentphoenix]

You in my hood...and my clan...:uhhuhuh:

Just sayin'...:smileroll



Oh, I know that home-slice.:smile:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

But see...that is gentle...

Me ? I MIGHT...not saying I would...but might...

Hex their family for seven generations...

Besides eliminating them , in the physical form...:bigredgri


Don't misunderstand me....
If someone broke into my house and tried to hurt us, don't think for a minute that I don't believe in beating the everloving crap out of 'em! :T

[Clair de la Lune]

Now, to me...that might be a bit much. Overkill, perhaps.

The following 7 generations shouldn't have to pay for the sin the 1 person committed...one person they had no control over the actions of.

I would hate to be paying right now for someone's actions that took place in the 1400's, whom I never even met! :foh:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Well first...let me correct your mathematics...given 30 years , as the base
number for bearing children...seven generations , is 210 years...

Those who know the inner magic(k) of certain cultures , know
this is a number utilized...by some...emphasize some Native American tribes...

And others , by oral tradition...

Some European clans , and societies , would likewise curse the
descendants of their enemies , or advesaries...

Some would choose not to...

Is not this world a wonderful place , where choice is the rule ?


Now, to me...that might be a bit much. Overkill, perhaps.

The following 7 generations shouldn't have to pay for the sin the 1 person committed...one person they had no control over the actions of.

I would hate to be paying right now for someone's actions that took place in the 1400's, whom I never even met! :foh:

[Clair de la Lune]

Yes...however, it can be a somewhat scary one....

"Be careful whom you make upset, even if you are unaware of such wrongdoing...for you never know what the other person is capable of." -Me

I guess if I were cursed from before, I would never know it, I would just have to learn to deal with it and do the best I can in this life (though it might explain a few things...). I would see it as a form of a test to see if I was worthy of passing. NOTE: Please don't get any ideas to hex me just to test me and make me stronger or any such thing. Thanks! :)

The choice is an empowerment, I suppose.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Absolutely !

And , in context of the thread...that is why one who truly works
magic(k) , by whatever spelling , makes it a point , to be the VERY
best they are capable of , at either blessing , or hexing / cursing...

Among many other things...:bigredgri



Yes...however, it can be a somewhat scary one....

"Be careful whom you make upset, even if you are unaware of such wrongdoing...for you never know what the other person is capable of." -Me What's Your Power Bird? (http://www.blogthings.com/whatsyourpowerbirdquiz/)

[Clair de la Lune]

Yeah...I thought our messages crossed...you posted to my original as I was cleaning it up and editing it. :hahugh:

It was going to be really cool, too when it listed that my power bird was the Vulture and what the qualities were and the tie-in. I kinda had to take out the link, because it just linked to a blank test! hahaha!

I did the best I could with what I had at the time and I think that is what we all do in life.:bigredgri

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Vulture is a great bird...not only have I encountered a whole
group on the road , that I had to walk through without fear...

over fifteen of them , mountain road , walking , no way to go
around...I have a hat , with a huge vulture feather attached !

I associate strongly with vulture...

Yet , your statement...true...and we recycle , and build on
our foundation of the past...experience...whether in blessing ,
hexing , or life...all lessons possible to see through vulture's
eyes...




I did the best I could with what I had at the time and I think that is what we all do in life.:bigredgri

[Clair de la Lune]

I am going to bed... g'night or g'day all! :bigredgri

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Same ! Good dreams !



I am going to bed... g'night or g'day all! :bigredgri

[Full_Moon_Rising]

Some things... Some things deserve hexing... Petty fights and so on do not count. However, every now and then, its worth the three fold laws

[Morgaine_cla]

I've never needed to; when someone has wronged me it has seldom been long before the Gods and ancestors responded and justice was served.

That said, if I "needed" to, I would. But I am not sure how we are defining "need" here. Would I do it for pride or vanity's sake? No. Would I do it in defence of my life or the life of someone who cannot defend themselves?... _whistle_

What do you think?

[Carri]

Yes...however, it can be a somewhat scary one....

"Be careful whom you make upset, even if you are unaware of such wrongdoing...for you never know what the other person is capable of." -Me

I guess if I were cursed from before, I would never know it, I would just have to learn to deal with it and do the best I can in this life (though it might explain a few things...). I would see it as a form of a test to see if I was worthy of passing. NOTE: Please don't get any ideas to hex me just to test me and make me stronger or any such thing. Thanks! :)

The choice is an empowerment, I suppose.

You know this is an interesting idea if you mix it with reincarnation. Maybe you are born into a cursed life (cursed because of ancestors) but what if you did something in a past life to warrent being born into the cursed family line. Maybe that is your lesson. Or whatever if it's not a lesson, I really know nothing of reincarnation, just the barest of details.

Okay I hope that made sense because it did to me before I started to type it.

[Roger]

Hi everyone, I've just discovered this site, I haven't had the chance to read all of the posts on this thread but here's my take on it.

I don't personally go out of my way to hex anyone which is mainly down to the three fold law, what you give out comes back. I have cast spells in the past and if I'm being honest one of them did result in a death, you see we used to suffer from "Neighbours From Hell" but the only purpose of the spell was to reverse the negative energy we were getting back to the source (taking the wiccan rede into consideration), of course times 3. I can only imagine going by the result of the spell that there must have been a lot of negative issues being thrown at us for it to result in the the way that it did.

I have also had people suffer around me that have treated me really badly, being taken into hospital etc. All of this happened before I actually discovered that I was actually meant to follow my path, you see I was brought up a Christian and then spent many years in confusion as an Atheist.

It's good because as Witches we understand, I should I say "supposed" to understand the consequence of our actions rather than those that just pick up a book and decide that they want to practise magick for a week or two and then go back to normal lives etc.

Could I just add though that you don't need to be Wiccan to actually have the power to hex someone...

[MidnightFire]

Yeppers.

Like the majority of you that do, it is only if justified. As a I have wicked temper; kind of like a volcano when it does blow, I have to step back and really give myself the time to cool off before deciding.

[evergreen]

I have never intentionally hexed someone. I once had a boy teasing me rather harshly and I thought a quite nasty thought about him falling off his bike. He did, got hurt, called me a witch and ran home.

Not sure if that counts as a hex. Just a strange experience since it happened several years before I even knew witches and paganism existed.

I think I would only be capable of hexing someone if I honestly believed my loved ones were in danger. Even then, I'm not sure I would use that method. More physical action and praying.

[~Nixie]

...

[Roger]

I have never intentionally hexed someone. I once had a boy teasing me rather harshly and I thought a quite nasty thought about him falling off his bike. He did, got hurt, called me a witch and ran home.

Not sure if that counts as a hex.

Well actually, if you think about it then it does. What you have here is someone wronging you very badly and you wanted him to go away and he refused to, the next course of action that came into your head was him falling off his bike and he did. Just like any spell that we do it must really be about ourselves to have real full effect and also must be filled with intent which in your case it was.

In the job that I do as a teacher I have to work with 11-16 year old kids, some of these kids that don't know any better can really wind you up to the point where you start to feel really angry. This is the point where I have to hold back, almost as if to block my energies from coming out to prevent something bad from happening.

I'm not trying to blow my own trumpet here and try and sound like one of those Demons from Charmed etc (I'm not!), I just know that when people have pissed me off really badly in the past then things have been known to happen.

Anyone can unknowingly hex another, give the Evil eye or whatever you want top call it, you don't need to be a Witch to do that, but at least being a Witch and knowing certain things about the craft allows you to think more clearly and offer yourself better understaning and protection against these things.

I used to think I was a really bad person when people would fall ill around me for pissing me off, but that was before I acknowledged my path and understood a little more about it, now I just say to myself - what goes around comes around.

[Rick]

Hi everyone, I've just discovered this site, I haven't had the chance to read all of the posts on this thread but here's my take on it.

I don't personally go out of my way to hex anyone which is mainly down to the three fold law, what you give out comes back. I have cast spells in the past and if I'm being honest one of them did result in a death, you see we used to suffer from "Neighbours From Hell" but the only purpose of the spell was to reverse the negative energy we were getting back to the source (taking the wiccan rede into consideration), of course times 3. I can only imagine going by the result of the spell that there must have been a lot of negative issues being thrown at us for it to result in the the way that it did.

I have also had people suffer around me that have treated me really badly, being taken into hospital etc. All of this happened before I actually discovered that I was actually meant to follow my path, you see I was brought up a Christian and then spent many years in confusion as an Atheist.

It's good because as Witches we understand, I should I say "supposed" to understand the consequence of our actions rather than those that just pick up a book and decide that they want to practise magick for a week or two and then go back to normal lives etc.

Could I just add though that you don't need to be Wiccan to actually have the power to hex someone...

...we're not all witches, much less Wiccan, and a very large number here do not follow any sort of three-fold notion, but rather follow a notion of owning responsibility for one's actions...

[FrostyAthame]

I haven't yet, but if someone harmed or intended to harm one of my loved one's (such as my beloved Caitlyn) I would likely first hex them, then pray to the Goddess and the God for help resolving the situation in the manner of giving them what they deserve.

[Gwen StarSpirit]

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[HiccupingBat]

Never. I've realized in the past that I am capable of a lot more than I thought. If I had to defend myself I would turn to mental shields if it is mental or martial arts if I must physically defend myself or another.

[Whitewolf]

I'd only hex someone if it was really necessary or if someone threatens me or my family.

[Toki Wartooth]

I've done so in the past. I'll only do it if I feel I've exhausted all the other options, though usually, I find other methods to deal with it.

[Pink_sheep]

I don't, but I would.
Like a lot of people have said, I'd only do it after exhausting all other methods.

[Garm]

As it says on the tin - Do you Hex?

This is not an ethical debate on whether it's right or wrong, just whether or not you do it or not?

I Hex when it's needed, do you?

Also, if you do, how often would you say you do it and for what reason?

I don't Hex that much but only because the need hasn't arisen that often - if it did then I would :deviltail :brew:
What warrants a Hex? If someone pisses me off that much then I'll do it, simple!

And you?

Oh aren't we so wicked?

Something about the cutesy way you phrase it that just irks me

It's a sick ugly business

Done right your hurting people

There are always excuses to rationalize what you are doing, it is just the way of human nature

I can take pleasure in revenge upon others but whenever I do I realize that I am just degrading myself

There's a doaist saying, "every victory is a funeral" and about sums up my feelings about it

I haven't done anything in the last couple of years, and I find lately that I am just letting things go that before would drawn a good round of malediction out of me

I see that as a positive thing

[Whitewolf]

I'd only hex someone if it was really necessary or if someone threatens me or my family. I'd only hex someone if they threatened my life [or my family] and if it was the very last option. I wouldn't do it lightly.

[Lapis_Lazuli]

I just did my self dedication ritual less then a week ago; I haven't done ANY magic let alone a hex.

I don't intend to ever hex. Even if someone I care about or myself was in danger, I'd use protection magic. If that didn't work, I'd use a different kind of protection magic.

Of course other methods would be taken if neccesary in addition to magic~Examples: Locking the doors at night, avoiding the dangerous people, calling the police, etc.

[Human]

I have attempted to curse before, but this was about five years ago when I was anxious, depressive and more impulsive, and I have long since canceled my malicious and unnecessary wishes, thankfully negating their affects. :shhhh:

As of now, I would not curse anyone unless they were in my presence and I felt my life was threatened. And even before that, I would probably use more immediate means to off or otherwise incapacitate them -- a physical weapon, for example.

[Kalena]

:hahugh: The few times people have made me cross enough for me to want revenge I have done it in such a way that it has caused me great amusment and has in fact given them exactly what they 'wished' for, but not however what they wanted.
And kept them out of my way and out of the way of the people I care about.
And too busy to cause any more mischief.
So I wouldn't exactly say I hex them although I guess you could say I do, but I do it nicely.

[Chaos Hawk]

I do not. But today, I really REALLY wish that I did.

[manual]

truly to Hex reflects inner weakness
i have done so indeed
obviously these deeds cannot be trully hidden
and yet they can
however it is responsibility in light of trust and choice
that places the hexer in the hexers realm
the need to defend
against what?
a judgement
to change one's view is an 'alchemical'
property
the property of ones platholgy and placement
within the 'endless' forms of eternity
the body of God
to judge God?
hmmm
to judge self?
hmm
what a world

[MsMollimizz]

I am being pushed into doing a curse....
"Blood turns black, skin turns blue;
I'll curse you if you force me too..."

My hubby has gotten pretty bad lately he's gotten physical in the way of full body pushing me and has done it a few times. Now
he's threatened to hit me this last time. DON'T PISS OFF THIS WITCH !
Gentle Light
MsMollimizz

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I can greatly appreciate the humor in this...

It is also how I have worked , many times...not all ,
yet many more than a few...:bigredgri

( they should pay more attention to what they wish for )




:hahugh: The few times people have made me cross enough for me to want revenge I have done it in such a way that it has caused me great amusment and has in fact given them exactly what they 'wished' for, but not however what they wanted.
And kept them out of my way and out of the way of the people I care about.
And too busy to cause any more mischief.
So I wouldn't exactly say I hex them although I guess you could say I do, but I do it nicely.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Nice opinion...not necessarily truth...:uhhuhuh:

I would say the inability to Hex , shows inner
weakness , especially depending on a deity to
make things right...

Hide the actions ? Hell , no...why hide them ?

And doing it to defend ? Perhaps...or just because
they really pissed me off...

Alchemy ?

Gold To Lead Their Life Shall Be ,
If They Dare To Tread On Me ,
Sun To Saturn , Turn , Turn , Turn ,
Body Shattered And Wealth Shall Burn ,
Their Time Shall Quicken , Soon May Die ,
With Their Last Breath I May Tell Them Why !

Hmmm...yes...that sounds nice...:smileroll


truly to Hex reflects inner weakness

[Human]

I am being pushed into doing a curse....
"Blood turns black, skin turns blue;
I'll curse you if you force me too..."

My hubby has gotten pretty bad lately he's gotten physical in the way of full body pushing me and has done it a few times. Now
he's threatened to hit me this last time. DON'T PISS OFF THIS WITCH !
Gentle Light
MsMollimizz


You are only the victim if you allow yourself to be. You are not being "pushed into" anything.

And I apologize for saying that when I am unaware of any facts aside from your husband's abusiveness, but from what you have said -- mainly your last hysterical exclamation -- you seem to be pushing yourself into cursing him, and I do not think Karma will be forgiving.

[Human]

Nice opinion...not necessarily truth...:uhhuhuh:

I would say the inability to Hex , shows inner
weakness , especially depending on a deity to
make things right...

Hide the actions ? Hell , no...why hide them ?

And doing it to defend ? Perhaps...or just because
they really pissed me off...

Alchemy ?

Gold To Lead Their Life Shall Be ,
If They Dare To Tread On Me ,
Sun To Saturn , Turn , Turn , Turn ,
Body Shattered And Wealth Shall Burn ,
Their Time Shall Quicken , Soon May Die ,
With Their Last Breath I May Tell Them Why !

Hmmm...yes...that sounds nice...:smileroll

I hate to be your challenger here, as you seem so intelligent in other posts, but I feel inclined:

Your desire to turn to malice as your first line of defense is, frankly, poorly thought-out and immature, mainly in the case of someone "really pissing you off."

There are better, less destructive ways of handling problems, especially when the problem is actually yourself.

[Sage Rainsong]

You are only the victim if you allow yourself to be. You are not being "pushed into" anything.

And I apologize for saying that when I am unaware of any facts aside from your husband's abusiveness, but from what you have said -- mainly your last hysterical exclamation -- you seem to be pushing yourself into cursing him, and I do not think Karma will be forgiving.

I agree that she is only as much of a victim as she allows herself to be. If she wants to hex the guy just own it. However, abusive people can go from threats to actually killing their spouses. It happens everyday. Just out of curiosity, do you think that cursing is ever appropriate? If not, what would you do, aside from the obvious mundane things like calling the police, if you had an abusive stalker who could potentially kill you?

[Sage Rainsong]

I am being pushed into doing a curse....
"Blood turns black, skin turns blue;
I'll curse you if you force me too..."

My hubby has gotten pretty bad lately he's gotten physical in the way of full body pushing me and has done it a few times. Now
he's threatened to hit me this last time. DON'T PISS OFF THIS WITCH !
Gentle Light
MsMollimizz


If your going to curse the guy you need to do it after you get out of your situation. You need to call your local domestic violence hotline immediately. That is abuse, whether he hit you yet or not. Here is the national one if you'd like:

National Domestic Violence Hotline
1-800-799-SAFE (1-800-799-7233)

[Human]

I agree that she is only as much of a victim as she allows herself to be. If she wants to hex the guy just own it. However, abusive people can go from threats to actually killing their spouses. It happens everyday. Just out of curiosity, do you think that cursing is ever appropriate? If not, what would you do, aside from the obvious mundane things like calling the police, if you had an abusive stalker who could potentially kill you?

That is a very respectable question that honestly took me off-guard, because I responded with my off-the-cuff reaction instead of first putting myself in her shoes.

I would probably knock them across the head with a blunt object (when they were already vulnerable) until they went unconscious. After quickly gathering the necessary items in order to leave safely -- a knife, gun, crowbar, etc.; the car keys; their wallet; a cellular phone if possible -- I would hop in the car and start driving while calling the police.

I would explain that I reacted in self-defense, if he happened to die in my attempt to knock him unconscious. I would probably go to the next state's (or a further) police office and frantically re-explain what happened, perhaps showing them proof of my abuse (bruises, cuts, welts, etc.) if doubted.

Beyond that, I don't know, and because of your questions, I think I now have more perspective about her situation, so thank you.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Well...I do not mind a challenge...

Yet , I do recommend not making assumptions ,
when you challenge...:thumbsup:

Your assumption that I would turn to malice , as a
first line of defense ,is incorrect...

Well , yes , it is an assumption...but an incorrect
assumption...

My attacks on people , individual or group , are
extremely well thought out , even though I think
faster than most...I am known for this , IRL...

You may think something immature...many of us ,
of the witch's path , do not share those feelings...some do...

Personally , I do not care , if you , or anyone likes it...


However , I might care for you , and others , as people...

You shall find on MW , many who would agree with me ,
on this particular topic...read this whole thread...

And you shall find those who hold your postition...

To each their own...your feelings are yours...not truth ,
except your truth...

Mine is mine...:thumbsup:




I hate to be your challenger here, as you seem so intelligent in other posts, but I feel inclined:

Your desire to turn to malice as your first line of defense is, frankly, poorly thought-out and immature, mainly in the case of someone "really pissing you off."

There are better, less destructive ways of handling problems, especially when the problem is actually yourself.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Again , Human...another point...

You shall find , on MW , as elsewhere , on the net ,
and in real life...not everyone believes in , nor do
we accept the idea of karma , or , for that matter ,
a judging god , nor will of the gods...

Just so you know...:thumbsup:


I do not think Karma will be forgiving.

[Human]

Well...I do not mind a challenge...

Yet , I do recommend not making assumptions ,
when you challenge...:thumbsup:

Your assumption that I would turn to malice , as a
first line of defense ,is incorrect...

Well , yes , it is an assumption...but an incorrect
assumption...

My attacks on people , individual or group , are
extremely well thought out , even though I think
faster than most...I am known for this , IRL...

You may think something immature...many of us ,
of the witch's path , do not share those feelings...some do...

Personally , I do not care , if you , or anyone likes it...


However , I might care for you , and others , as people...

You shall find on MW , many who would agree with me ,
on this particular topic...read this whole thread...

And you shall find those who hold your postition...

To each their own...your feelings are yours...not truth ,
except your truth...

Mine is mine...:thumbsup:



My assumption aside, do you have any actual response to what I said aside from the fact that everyone has their own truth?

Particularly, I would like to know why you think hexing is an acceptable response to someone who has sparked your anger. Anger is your own emotion, your own "problem," if one considers it such, so why would you curse someone else for what is yours to handle?

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I do not consider anger a problem...

If I did , I would consider love a problem...

They are feelings , and create a response...

My choice of response...

Do you have a problem with anger ?

Lust ?

If someone acts with malice , or extreme inconsideration ,
that is their right...and mine to thwart , incapacitate , or
destroy them for such , if I so choose...or , if I choose , to
gently remind them...:thumbsup:


My assumption aside, do you have any actual response to what I said aside from the fact that everyone has their own truth?

Particularly, I would like to know why you think hexing is an acceptable response to someone who has sparked your anger. Anger is your own emotion, your own "problem," if one considers it such, so why would you curse someone else for what is yours to handle?

[Human]

If someone acts with malice , or extreme inconsideration ,
that is their right...and mine to thwart , incapacitate , or
destroy them for such , if I so choose

Where do you live?

[Shawn Blackwolf]

In an area , where , if ever needed...

Ahem...let us say there is a big woods , and ocean out there...:bigredgri

NOW ...that is very extreme circumstances...

I am , in general...a *very* nice guy...

I just don't like being ****ed with , and I do not allow men to
hit , or abuse women , or children , with malice...just sayin'...


Where do you live?

[MankyCat]

I didn't mark either. I have hexed certain persons in the past. I don't regret it and I had my reasons. I haven't done a hex in ages, simply because I feel it's a waste of energy and time to bother with them to that extent. :bigredgri

Then again, what one person considers a hex, another might now and vice versa.

[MankyCat]

That is a very respectable question that honestly took me off-guard, because I responded with my off-the-cuff reaction instead of first putting myself in her shoes.

I would probably knock them across the head with a blunt object (when they were already vulnerable) until they went unconscious. After quickly gathering the necessary items in order to leave safely -- a knife, gun, crowbar, etc.; the car keys; their wallet; a cellular phone if possible -- I would hop in the car and start driving while calling the police.

I would explain that I reacted in self-defense, if he happened to die in my attempt to knock him unconscious. I would probably go to the next state's (or a further) police office and frantically re-explain what happened, perhaps showing them proof of my abuse (bruises, cuts, welts, etc.) if doubted.

That's assuming she can knock him unconscious without killing him or causing permanent damage. This sort of thing can sometimes find a way of turning around and hurting the victim. Seriously. If you haven't been in the situation, it is far to easy to view things as black and white, cut and dry, and not the sticky muddy mess it actually is.

[Human]

That's assuming she can knock him unconscious without killing him or causing permanent damage. This sort of thing can sometimes find a way of turning around and hurting the victim. Seriously. If you haven't been in the situation, it is far to easy to view things as black and white, cut and dry, and not the sticky muddy mess it actually is.

Please read the following:


Beyond that, I don't know, and because of your questions, I think I now have more perspective about her situation, so thank you.

It was meant to be an admission of ignorance.

[trueseeker]

I could need a little help...I know I could post in help section but rarely someone goes there and it's urgent...when I was but a child(almost) I hexed myself not into going to Satu Mare.It was as I understand it now,mostly a defensive thing,because my mom forced me to go there,and treated me bad and I got a feeling of uselessness and emptiness there,and I was not happy.In order to prevent me from not being weak in front of my mother,I thought like and prayed,(I know but that was then) I outed a 'if I ever set foot in Satu Mare again,all bad luck and etc to fall upon me...this kept me scared enough to resist and fight my mother until today when it is a legal issue,my grandma has some land there she wants to sell and I got to go,because she has legal paper to do,and pay the taxes and all and my mother cannot be trusted with anything because her head it's all air.So here I am in trouble ,I need to break that thing I did as a girl in less than 2 hours.Spent some time searching for a good method,not really satisfied....the nature and sun and the grass feels good,but my mom watches me like a hawk..my altar is in the other part of the city and unreachable now...Help!Any practical ideas?Thanks!

On topic:I promised myself not to hex anyone..especially it seems because I have the talent to forsee upon..guess that is the correct thing...but willingly never...it seems like the easy way out of things...and yes I have nothing of that bazoom some say oh do not do that because you can't or do not love spell or do not manipulate reality...I ussually remind those people that the tarot card for the magician is also called Le jongleur,the one that manipulates reality...frankly when they say that I seriously doubt their place in the occult,I mean what are you doing with magic,any kind,if you are against manipulating various things,those people just seem like Christians with the fear of God,that makes them,allowes them to do and behave at a certain extent,if they defy the divine punishment comes to them..Thous shall not do magic..ahem..I will not rant into that..:))In the real history of the occult,practicioneers worked togheter to create a better,more evoluated world for everybody to enjoy and live in and understand since the Stone Age.And that was like large scale 'manipulation ' of reality.Aaarh,that was so much fire I had in my soul...thanks for listening..oh...and IMO :)

[Torey]

As it says on the tin - Do you Hex?

This is not an ethical debate on whether it's right or wrong, just whether or not you do it or not?

I Hex when it's needed, do you?

Also, if you do, how often would you say you do it and for what reason?

I don't Hex that much but only because the need hasn't arisen that often - if it did then I would :deviltail :brew:
What warrants a Hex? If someone pisses me off that much then I'll do it, simple!

And you?

I do hex. I don't do it 'often', but I have done it more during this year than I ever have.

The reasons that I do it vary - although I don't do it just because someone pisses me off. I choose not to exert my energies in such a way over something trivial.

Things such as cases of persistent harassment, threatening of my job/health/home/stability, deliberate unwarranted action against myself or my loved ones and predatory behavior are fair reasons in my ethos to take magickal action if I so choose.

[DiscordianKitten]

I never have felt the need to, but i don't believe it's necessarily ethically wrong.

[blithespirit]

Yep. I don't do it often, but if someone is in serious need of a mystical ass kicking, I won't hesitate. I like to consider myself a pacifist in the physical sense, but magically, not so much. :brew:

[Bettie]

I have done, and wouldn't hesitate to do so again if the situation warranted it. I find it quite invigorating, actually.

[manual]

I hate to be your challenger here, as you seem so intelligent in other posts, but I feel inclined:

Your desire to turn to malice as your first line of defense is, frankly, poorly thought-out and immature, mainly in the case of someone "really pissing you off."

There are better, less destructive ways of handling problems, especially when the problem is actually yourself.


exactly right, and totally agreed. i am shocked at the change from positive postings to such..well.. seemingly unawareness. it is a body of one, and of many. masks and nakedness. in my personal experiences i only encounter my own choices, whether negative or positive. the choices i made and make are reflective of who i meet and where i meet them. if someone says something or does something that offends me, or is contrary to my direction, an attachment would be simply well.. silly, since it is not the way i wish to go. and besides.. a past decision is altered by the choice of now and the future. if someone says something and i know better (for myself) i can answer and i can know, and i can also see the past that formed that intent, or judgement in experience. usually an enemy is trully a benefacter in disguise, for he helps us make the true decisions, past the 'uneveolved state' that led us to the 'negative' we encountered. truelly it is a path of motion, not of stagnation, as such to detach is the answer, the solution past the problem.

[Rae*ShadowWolf]

I've cursed a few times. I remember back in late 2004/early 2005 here at MysticWicks, there was a man terrorizing kittens and cats in a member's neighborhood. A few of us got together and did a ritual of binding on that man. I've done a few other since then. If it needs to be done, it needs to be done; but it is not something done lightly.

[Cloaked Raven]

I will if the situation warrants it.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

If you took the care , which you obviously did not ,
( am I shocked ? Nooo...:smileroll )...to go back to the very
beginning of this thread , there are many of us , on
MW , who have a very different view , and care little ,
if at all for your dissertation , or judgement , on our
choices , and actions...

Your opinion is yours...live with it...or not...:uhhuhuh:

( P.S. Don't get so shocked , you electrocute yourself )...:thumbsup:


exactly right, and totally agreed. i am shocked at the change from positive postings to such..well.. seemingly unawareness.

[skilly-nilly]

I think Magic (and hexing) are facets of the complete person and consistant with the general impulses of that person. A person who is open to negotiation and compromise in their mundane life isn't going to fire off a hex at the slightest provocation.

A person who would only commit violence in extreme circumstances would only hex as a last resort.

A person who routinely advocates violence in response to mild or perceived injury or just in the case of trespass or verbal insult should be expected to routinely hex. Violent person=violent magic.

[BryonMorrigan]

Hexing/Cursing? = Historically accurate (Google "Defixio" or pick up the book "Arcana Mundi" by Georg Luck for historical examples in the Classical world...)

Wiccan Rede? = Not so much

Though, in all fairness, I reserve my 'offensive magick' to those situations where I cannot resolve the situation with non-supernatural means...at least without getting arrested. (Example: My father-in-law is a convicted child molester, and I firmly believe that it was a curse of mine that exposed him.)

On the other hand, I am a firm believer in the "Fake Curse." These are particularly useful against overly nosy or obnoxious Christians trying to convert you or otherwise ruin your day. (I used to have a shop selling Pagan books, and they'd occasionally come in and try to give me a buncha crap...)

Example: Say some Christian is being obnoxious to you and warning you about going to "hell." You could quote something scary and pretend to curse them. A good "fake curse" is the "Charm of Making" from the movie "Excalibur."Anal Nathrach, udhras beothadh, dochioll dian fe!

This is especially fun if you happen to have a "prop" on hand to use as
a wand or something. Just find a creepy stick or something.

[Louisvillian]

As it says on the tin - Do you Hex?
Nope. I'm very skeptical about the effectiveness of spellwork in the first place.

[dr_zeus440]

I often wish death upon slow-drivers, particularly if they're clogging up the right hand lane and I'm running late to work. As for cursing, well, I swear like a pirate, does that count?

Shitty people have shitty things in their life, if not in their past then certainly in their future. Such is life. The cause of shittyness is usually shittyness, and the result of shittyness is more of the same. Effort spent hating anything other than your own faults is effort wasted, and too much waste is a crying shame.

Find yourself thinking up elaborate ways to wreak havoc on the hairy next-door neighbour who fills your bin with his trash? Spending inordinate amounts of time tying royal blue ribbon around black tourmaline and car tire at half-nine in the evening whilst visualising your psychotic ex-husband being hit by a speeding 4WD? Take to his mailbox with a baseball bat and be done with it, and go and learn a language.

[~Belladonna~]

Yes, I do hex. I didn't do it randomly, I gave it great thought and made certain of my reasons so that I could live with myself. Given the reasons, I'd do it again.:thumbsup:

tryad

Sounds about right, and exactly what I do.

[~Belladonna~]

I have done, and wouldn't hesitate to do so again if the situation warranted it. I find it quite invigorating, actually.

:uhhuhuh: :hahugh:

[Fireheart]

No. I have wished bad things on people that make me angry...but I would feel horrible if it ever came to fruition.