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RakliDipity
May 24th, 2009, 01:40 PM
I have been having a problem casting spells for myself. It seems like for the longest time whenever I cast a spell for something, for myself, it ends up going to other people. One example of this would be the first spell I cast for money, and my neigthbout over the road won £1000 on the lottery. Now most of the time I don't mind at all, I just laugh it off.
However, recently when I have needed a fair bit of luck on my side to get me through some tough situations, it seems to be diverting to other people. Has this ever happened to anyone before? Can anyone think of a way to remedy this situation? Input would be very much appreciated for this
Lilrodrigues
May 24th, 2009, 06:59 PM
What makes you believe that your spell had any influence whatsoever in your neighbours lottery winnings?
What makes you believe that you luck spell influenced other peoples luck?
Do you think people dont get "lucky breaks" on their own? What if they cast a spell themselves? What if they prayed to their god? What if, however remote this chance might be, they are living their own lives and you are simply noticing this because you want a similar outcome yourself? What if you suck at casting spells and they just dont work?
Shaedema
May 24th, 2009, 07:32 PM
It could be that you need to focus more on others rather than yourself (personal gain type stuff). Sometimes, and this has happened to me on more than one occasion, the spell isn't designed specifically for you. It is just a general 'send (fill in blank) this way' type spell.
If that is the case then all you need to do is make the spell very specific and personal.
One other thing to consider is the possibility that you are meant to get by in those 'tight' situations without aid so that you can grow both on your Path and as a person. I consider these times as a Test to see if I really have learned or if I'm just leaning on my beliefs when I get into trouble.
Hope this helps. :)
Xander67
May 24th, 2009, 08:00 PM
well, lets take a look at this.
First of all it is important to realise that Aubundance is your birthright.
There is plenty of it for all of us. We just need to allow it. When we do a spell to draw something to us, sometimes we unintentionally place limitations and create specifics for how, where what etc...
Negativity, anxiety, and other things will block the flow of abundance.
I would like to suggest looking at this from another angle. Think outside the box (or circle so to speak)
Instead of asking for money, for example, perhaps be more direct.
Example,
I will use my situation.
I need $1500 within two weeks for a class I need to take.
So rather than asking for the money, I will do work to remove what is blocking me from my ultimate objective in this case, which is, to register for the class.
THis could be done using a combination of things.
A good meditation clearing and opening up to ideas.
Banishing Negative energies
and binding the attitudes that cause me to block the flow of creativity that would help.
I can create my own wealth, we all have this power. However few know how to weild it properly or even know how to tap into it.
there is a saying, TIME is Money.
I am skilled in a variety of things, Computers, Software, Web Deisign, etc..
I can teach..
I can always find someone who would benefit from my consulting, and I can survive if I had to on my skills.
Helping others is the most powerful form of compassion and can help you in many ways. People get to know you, you become the person they call when they need help. Sometimes you can even make a few bucks..
By taking stock of your skils and talents, you can then focus on marketing them. Find the need, and offer to help. Do not feel bad about chargeing $20 an hour to sit with someone and show them how to email when others are getting $80 an hour..
By showing them what they want to know, you are satisfying a need and not boreing them with nonsense they probably heard already.
If you are good, and they get something out of it, they will call on you time and time again and by giving them a bargain price, this puts you at an advantage over the ones who charge more.
Word of mouth gets around, and someone is more likely to take the reccomendation of their friend and family over some high priced sales pitch.
That sorta takes care of the mundane actions but what about the astral work?
This is important too.
Instead of asking for a specific thing, ask for aide and for the right situations to be drawn to you. This is where you need to be looking for it and open.
Perform your spell, confident that you have stated your intent and asked for the appropriate cosmic aid. Be secure in the knowledge that your higher self will do it's part on your behalf to supplement the work you do in the mundane.
You may run into someone who knows someone, or whatever.
There are no lucky breaks, we create our own wealth by acting on the opportuinity that is manifested to our awareness.
If you need money, then bind the spirit of lack, change your attitude.
Casting a spell and then waiting for the magic to happen will often cause you much dissapointment and cause you to doubt in your own abilities.
Research , plan, cast, act,
KNOW, WILL, Be Silent
Good Luck is nothing more than the absense of bad luck.
that being said, I do not believe in Luck,
If you think you are unlucky, then try to identify what it is that makes you feel you are unlucky.
ok here is an example,
You want to plant a garden, but maybe you have not had much success with it in the past.
This does not mean you are not lucky, it just means you need to try a different approach.
WHat are you planting?
Is your soil good enough PH wise?
Are you watering at night so the plants do not get scorched?
Are your plants getting enough fertilizer?
By educating yourself more in that area, you are then able to make adjustments in your plan, and your gardening skills improve.
Please do not missunderstand my intent, I am not trying to discourage you from spell casting. I am simply trying to help you see that by looking at different dimensions to the goal of the spell and acting on them, you will see a big difference in what you manifest.
A spell is typically done in two realms, the astral and the mundane.
They work in tandom to bring about the change you wish to create.
Also,
the spell itself needs to be something you can relate to, your own words.
A few heartfelt words over the light of a single candle done from an honest heart is far more powerful than an elaborate working with all the bells and whistles from a Spell you may find online or in someone else's book.
If you do decide to use a spell like that, make sure you understand what each element represents and try to make it your own. It needs to come from the heart. If you totally know why you are using blue and why you are using a particular scent, that knowledge will give you the confidence to work the spell without the slightest possible doubt you are doing it right.
Just as important as the spell, is what you do afterwards.
FOLLOW UP in the physical plane. This can not be stated enough because if your higher self thinks you are no longer interested in that objective, it will think it is no longer important and will sometimes feel you are no longer interested in it.
Pease feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
xan.
Xander67
May 24th, 2009, 08:04 PM
What if you suck at casting spells and they just dont work?
I believe this was why she came to us for help. She is open to the possibility that she is in need of more training. and guidence.
Shawn Blackwolf
May 24th, 2009, 10:01 PM
After your ritual , done outdoors...
Thrusting an iron rod , or sword , into ground , grounds a spell...
Keeps energy centered for you...I could go into why , from my
Tradition , but shall leave that for if you ask...:smileroll
Of course , do be most careful...and choose soft ground...:uhhuhuh:
RakliDipity
May 25th, 2009, 07:01 AM
Lilrodrigues the fact of timing played into the situation, and this was only one of several other examples I could give.
ll themselves? What if they prayed to their god? What if, however remote this chance might be, they are living their own lives and you are simply noticing this because you want a similar outcome yourself? What if you suck at casting spells and they just dont work?
That is most probably the case, especially the last point. However I am hoping I'll get better at spellcasting
Shaedema, I think that is what I have been doing, not generating enough focus, I think, in lue of Lilrodrigues comment, need to learn to focus more
Thank you Xander 67, I got my book out to note that down :) A question though, could you bind the 'spirit of lack' as you say, within a ritual context, sort of?
Thank you Shawn Blackwolf
watersprite
May 25th, 2009, 08:27 AM
What makes you believe that your spell had any influence whatsoever in your neighbours lottery winnings?
What makes you believe that you luck spell influenced other peoples luck?
Do you think people dont get "lucky breaks" on their own? What if they cast a spell themselves? What if they prayed to their god? What if, however remote this chance might be, they are living their own lives and you are simply noticing this because you want a similar outcome yourself? What if you suck at casting spells and they just dont work?
Yea, that was constructive and pleasant at the same time.
Lunacie
May 25th, 2009, 10:42 AM
What makes you believe that your spell had any influence whatsoever in your neighbours lottery winnings?
What makes you believe that you luck spell influenced other peoples luck?
Do you think people dont get "lucky breaks" on their own? What if they cast a spell themselves? What if they prayed to their god? What if, however remote this chance might be, they are living their own lives and you are simply noticing this because you want a similar outcome yourself? What if you suck at casting spells and they just dont work?
Yea, that was constructive and pleasant at the same time.
Sometimes we need to ask the really hard questions. Might not be pleasant, but they can shake us out of one thought pattern/rut and get us to look at things differently.
Lilrodrigues was not making a personal attack, just posing some questions to make the OP think more clearly. It's what a good teacher does. There is a time for comfort - but there is also a time for hard questions. Those are the kind of questions I would be asking my students.
I did ask one of my students a hard question a couple of weeks before her unexpected death from an aneurysm. She was already starting to look at the problem from a different perspective. My natural tendency is to wish our last conversation had been more "pleasant" but this was a lesson she needed to work on.
Lilrodrigues
May 25th, 2009, 02:03 PM
Yea, that was constructive and pleasant at the same time.
Thank you. I also considered it both constructive and pleasant. Its always both constructive and pleasant to have someone from the outside and with a detached view help us move away from the wishfull thinking. At least I wouldnt expect anything less if I had a doubt and asked for help.
Now, RakliDipity, i wont go into further details about spell casting per se since there are COT's in this site where you can learn from and you were also very well advised by previous posters, however, and i must caution you agaisnt being hasty in interpreting your spells on one factor alone. The fact that you did a spell and then something you think you asked for happened to another person is most probably not correlated at all. Thats why I posted the questions i did Lunacy understood and kindly explained. You might want to give a read on neurological phenomena and how your brain works to see how we find patterns and usually see what we want to see. This might help you in future situations to make a better analysis of a spell outcome.
Shawn Blackwolf
May 25th, 2009, 02:16 PM
On the other hand of that...
There is the wise saying :
"Just because you are paranoid , does
not mean they are not out to get you"
By the same token :
"Just because you see patterns , does
not mean there are none there"
Intuition , gut level feeling , and wise discrimination...:thumbsup:
Keys to all spellwork...among others...:uhhuhuh:
Xander67
May 25th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Thank you Xander 67, I got my book out to note that down :) A question though, could you bind the 'spirit of lack' as you say, within a ritual context, sort of?
Thank you Shawn Blackwolf
I would say yes. maybe binding any and all circumstances and energies which may be blocking the flow of abundance?
aluokaloo
May 25th, 2009, 05:34 PM
i've never been able to cast a spell for myself properly either, it all goes way south whenever i've tried but whenever i've done it for others its so strong and works so well! it frustrates me sometimes that i never get those kinds of results for myself. as a matter of fact mine either don't happen at all or it all explodes in my face. so i can certaintly sympathize. perhaps you get frustrated and get into an "i think i can't" mode instead of an "i know i can" mode and it taints your energy on a subconscious level. positive reinforcement and all that.
aluokaloo
May 25th, 2009, 05:44 PM
What makes you believe that your spell had any influence whatsoever in your neighbours lottery winnings?
What makes you believe that you luck spell influenced other peoples luck?
Do you think people dont get "lucky breaks" on their own? What if they cast a spell themselves? What if they prayed to their god? What if, however remote this chance might be, they are living their own lives and you are simply noticing this because you want a similar outcome yourself? What if you suck at casting spells and they just dont work?
wow. just wow. just go right ahead and say you suck to people who are asking for advice. those are some real helpful tactics you got there. :goodgrief
getting water up your nose when you're learning how to swim?
hey kid maybe cause its you suck at swimming.
getting a scraped knee while trying to ride a unicycle?
hey guess what? i think you suck at it.
lovely. just lovely.
Lilrodrigues
May 26th, 2009, 02:21 PM
wow. just wow. just go right ahead and say you suck to people who are asking for advice. those are some real helpful tactics you got there. :goodgrief
getting water up your nose when you're learning how to swim?
hey kid maybe cause its you suck at swimming.
getting a scraped knee while trying to ride a unicycle?
hey guess what? i think you suck at it.
lovely. just lovely.
Tactics? This is not about tactics, its about realization of something. Sometimes you suck at things. Is this a hard thing to handle for you? Tactics come after you realize whats wrong, and yes, one of the things that can be wrong is your own ability to perform something. Just because we all can put out sounds, doesnt mean that everyone will be great singer. Moreover,the OP handled my suggestions just fine, seems like she wasnt even bothered by it so why should you be? I dont see anyone giving you an Opinion and Help badge to police other peoples take on subject.
Shaedema
May 26th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Tactics? This is not about tactics, its about realization of something. Sometimes you suck at things. Is this a hard thing to handle for you? Tactics come after you realize whats wrong, and yes, one of the things that can be wrong is your own ability to perform something. Just because we all can put out sounds, doesnt mean that everyone will be great singer. Moreover,the OP handled my suggestions just fine, seems like she wasnt even bothered by it so why should you be? I dont see anyone giving you an Opinion and Help badge to police other peoples take on subject.
I think we are all responding to the way you answered....not so much the content.
I tend to think that when people ask for an opinion they get what they ask for, but on the flip side of things....I think we have to be responsible in how we reply. If they want harsh answers then fine go ahead, but to a question like this....I think your reply could have be phrased a bit differently.
*shrugs* But that is my own opinion.
Shawn Blackwolf
May 26th, 2009, 05:36 PM
I would say a number of us share that opinion...:thumbsup:
But some have a more compassionate approach...
And some just suck at that...:uhhuhuh:
I think we are all responding to the way you answered....not so much the content.
I tend to think that when people ask for an opinion they get what they ask for, but on the flip side of things....I think we have to be responsible in how we reply. If they want harsh answers then fine go ahead, but to a question like this....I think your reply could have be phrased a bit differently.
*shrugs* But that is my own opinion.
Lilrodrigues
May 26th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Thats definatly right! I suck at "compassionate" opinions, couldnt give one even if i tried... I was never a fan of what i consider to be "mothering". And on this I follow the teachings of jesus (or was it the bible pre jesus?) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Now, stop adressing my response to the OP (it really is none of your business since i havent, ever, lacked respect or personally attacked her or anyone else) and just reply to her question. If you feel the need to continue to police or opionate on my response, thats what the PM is for i believe.
Shaedema
May 26th, 2009, 07:32 PM
Thats definatly right! I suck at "compassionate" opinions, couldnt give one even if i tried... I was never a fan of what i consider to be "mothering". And on this I follow the teachings of jesus (or was it the bible pre jesus?) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Now, stop adressing my response to the OP (it really is none of your business since i havent, ever, lacked respect or personally attacked her or anyone else) and just reply to her question. If you feel the need to continue to police or opionate on my response, thats what the PM is for i believe.
Wasn't he the one who said that compassion was a better response? Maybe I'm confusing things a bit.
Anyways....I think I was responding to you responding to another's post. As far as I can tell your response to aluokaloo wasn't apart of the OP...and in which case is open for comment by me and others.
No one said you needed to respond to our comments.
Shawn Blackwolf
May 26th, 2009, 11:03 PM
I believe we have had our say about the phrasing of
a previous post...I myself , have had to be reminded
I could phrase things better , to be more effective in
my communication , on MW...
We all may add input , on posts , not the poster...
Other than that , I not only addressed the OP's post on this
thread , but extensively , by PM , thank you very much for
your kind suggestion...:thumbsup:
Now, stop adressing my response to the OP and just reply to her question.
aluokaloo
May 27th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Tactics? This is not about tactics, its about realization of something. Sometimes you suck at things. Is this a hard thing to handle for you? Tactics come after you realize whats wrong, and yes, one of the things that can be wrong is your own ability to perform something. Just because we all can put out sounds, doesnt mean that everyone will be great singer. Moreover,the OP handled my suggestions just fine, seems like she wasnt even bothered by it so why should you be? I dont see anyone giving you an Opinion and Help badge to police other peoples take on subject.
well you don't need to be so mean about it is what people are trying to say i certainly didn't say anything about mothering, but when my kid is having a hard time trying to learn something i certainly don't tell her you suck. there's a difference between brutally honest and being mean and condescending. and for another thing this is a public discussion board, people here are going to be giving their ideas and opinions even about other people's ideas and opinions.
Lilrodrigues
May 27th, 2009, 05:18 PM
Well, its your kid isnt it? You are simply being its mother by giving your support. It so happens that this particular case isnt about a kid and a bike. Its a "kid" screaming and because something happens to someone nearby when he screams he thinks he caused it. Now, if your kid screams and thinks he causes all sort of stuff around him you go right ahead and support him, i personally prefer to question such logicaly flawed thought. See the difference?
Now, "you" did not discuss my opinion, you discussed the way i gave it, which is a completely personal affair and utterly unrelated to the question of the OP.
I find it extremely rude to have someone completly unknown to me, to whom i havent even spoke to originally, and, on top of it all, that has absolutly no authority whatesoever, come and try to tell me how i should act, or in this case, reply. Police your children, not me. I'm as subject to this forums rules as everyone else and if you don't like my assertive discourse, well thats really your problem, so either endure it, or report it.
~Elise~
May 27th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Keep it polite, folks. First and only warning. This topic has great potential for learning. Let's keep it open.
People have their opinions on all sorts of things, including answers given to an OP. They can express them...but quit beating a dead horse, folks and get back on topic. NOW
Lunacie
May 27th, 2009, 07:55 PM
Having given this some thought now, I've come up with some possibilities.
It could be you don't feel worthy of having good things come to you, not believing that your spells will work because you don't deserve good results. That mindset could cause you to block the results, thereby diverting them to somene else nearby.
It could be that you don't have faith in your ability, so when someone else has something happen that is similar to what you were hoping for, you think that your spell affected them instead of you, when it may just be a coincidence.
Or it could be that your spells are actually working, but you're not being specific enough. Therefore someone else is reaping the benefits because you didn't specify that you wanted the good stuff to happen to YOU.
Or it could be that you're too impatient and you give up when someone else -coincidentally- gets something like you were hoping to get. Given a little time you might get what you want TOO.
It could be that the Gods or the Universe or whatever decides that someone else needs whatever you're asking for more than you do. Or that it's not in your best interests to get what you want right now.
Give it some thought. Maybe one of those will resonate with you. Maybe it will make some space for some other thought to pop into your head.
Shawn Blackwolf
May 27th, 2009, 11:17 PM
There is another technique , as well , to center energy
from a spell toward you...:uhhuhuh:
You are in your circle...( this is for those who use one )
You complete ritual , send / release energy "outwards"...
Then visualize , and / or draw , a phi spiral , moving
from edge of circle , beginning in whichever direction
is your ritual starting point , inward to center , where
you finally end up...
So , basically , energy is spiraling into center , in a golden
mean ratio...the natural spiral of life...
Easy way to visualize...nautilus shell...:uhhuhuh:
Just a thought...Inward Ho !
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