What are these things??

[Tranquility]

What is the eye of Horus and Baphomet? i was looking through the Azuregreen magazine i ordered online and i was looking at those. They are related to paganism i know because its a pagan magazine.. im just wondering what they are and what they represent

[licorice whip]

the eye of horus is the evil eye, i think. its used for banishing negativity, but dont quote me on this! im not too sure.

[MidnightSun]

The Baphomet is a Satanic symbol.

[st0rm]

baphomet.. isnt that the goat?

[AradiaSupernova]

A baphomet is an upside down pentacle with a goat's head in the middle. The eye of Horus is used to banish negativity, I believe. The baphomet is a satanic symbol.

[Willow_Raindancer]

Here's a few links to help on Baphomet

http://www.templarhistory.com/baphomet.html

http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.org/baphomet.html

His link to Satanism can be debateable;)


The Eye of Horus is an Ancient Egyption symbol. It is used by many as protection from negative energies.
Some people I know just wear them
'cause they just look cool LOL!;)

[Ryhla]

The eye of Horus also was used in ancient Egypt as a healing amulet. Primarily though, it is used for warding evil and for protection. Here is a quick graphic I did up using one of my many graphics programs of the eye of Horus.

[FlamedLilly]

that looks like the eye of Ra to me. . . Is there a difference? if so what is the difference?

[Ryhla]

Originally posted by FlamedLilly
that looks like the eye of Ra to me. . . Is there a difference? if so what is the difference? There's an eye of Ra? From what I understand of ancient Egypt mythology, Set took out Horus' eye and this symbol was used to replace it and it generated into a new eye. That's why the egyptians used it as an amulet of healing. As for the eye of Ra, this is the first time I have heard of it.

[Willow_Raindancer]

Originally posted by Ryhla
There's an eye of Ra? From what I understand of ancient Egypt mythology, Set took out Horus' eye and this symbol was used to replace it and it generated into a new eye. That's why the egyptians used it as an amulet of healing. As for the eye of Ra, this is the first time I have heard of it.


The "Eye of Ra" is mentioned in the movie STARGATE
This is the only referance to it I've ever came across.
;)

[FlamedLilly]

STARGATE was the first place I heard of it, didn't think nothign of it until I began seeing the same symbol in other places. Mostly I've seen it and heard of it in Fiction books, but I figured the authors had done their research. I borrowed those books from a friend don't remember what series they were. I guess that goes to show you that you really can't believe everything you read. Thanks for setting me upright.

[Tranquility]

Yeah i was just looking at cool posters and chests and altar cloths... the baphomet looked interesting but im certainly not gettin it since it has to do with the devil worship in the past and present... as for the eye, i may decide to get that.. recently i just bought a bear paw print charm ( my spirit/animal guide) and a green man necklace, as he has a meaning to me because he is sort of like Cernunnos.. guardian of nature and animals

[Raevyn]

*sigh*

Various netjer (Kemetic deities) were called eyes of Ra, as they were protectors and close "friends" of his. Sekhmet, Bast, etc. were at times considered "the eye of Ra".

Atum-Ra is the creator God, Horus is the son of Aset and Asar and also plays a key part in Kemetic mythology. With Aset's help Horus avenged his father's murder by slaying his uncle, Seth, and reclaiming the throne.

The eye is actually called an udjat or wedjet and was used to represent *both* Ra and Horus. It especially symbolized the sun (Ra) and was used as an amulet against evil and inscribed on sarcophagi etc. because it protected the pharoah (the living embodiment of Horus, which is one reason Aset became Isis as the Mother of All [Aset being the mother of Horus, and Horus being the pharoahs, the pharoahs being leader of all]).

"The word utchat, sometimes spelled udjat, refers to Egypt's sacred eye symbol. The right eye is called the Eye of Ra, symbolizing the sun. The left is called the Eye of Thoth, symbolizing the moon. Both eyes together are the Two Eyes Of Horus The Elder. The eye is the part of the body able to perceive light, and is therefore the symbol for spiritual ability."

The eye was also used in terms of fractional measurement, and in relation to right and left sides of the brain, etc. Of interest;

http://www.sangraal.com/library/eyesofhorus.htm
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/egypt/horus.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/bird.html

As is often the case, this is an example of how rich and complex Kemetic mythology is, and the picture you posted is in fact a picture of the eye of Ra (being the right eye).

[Raevyn]

Incidentally the symbol of Baphomet/the reversed pentagram is a symbol of satanism because it points down - the focus is on material pursuits, pleasure, and satisfying human needs/wants rather then aspiring to "work upwards" towards God. The goat has something to do with a bible story I think; though I can't remember which and perhaps one of our more Christian knowledgeable members can explain it. One might also say that the goat came from Pan in Pagan beliefs.

[Ryhla]

*slaps head* I forgot they eye(s) were called the udjat or wedjet...But I did learn more about the eyes. Thanks Raevyn :)

[Marchosias]

The following is an article from www.churchoflucifer.org...explains Baphomet in relationship to Satanism/Luciferianism...hope it helps

The Value of Baphomet
By Vaalpus

It is widely believed throughout the occult and Satanic community that the Baphomet was an idol who was worshipped by the Order of Knights Templar. This militaristic group was founded in 1119 c.e. to protect Christians from Arab attack while they made pilgrimages to the Holy Land. They also proved to be very successful in business, ranging from banking to building. From this, they accumulated great wealth. This order grew and grew, through the generations, until its wealth and power began to be greater then the Catholic Church, and many other rulers of the day.

At this point, rumors began to break out that the order had turned toward the Left Hand Path. Initiates were rumored to have engaged in many blasphemies, including trampling on the cross, renouncing Jesus, and submitting to homosexual acts with other knights. The knights were said to have worshipped a pagan god, known as Baphomet, a creature with the head of a goat.

In the early fourteenth century, Philippe IV, the king of France, realized that he could use these stories to get a hold of the Knights Templars' assets and wealth. The king was growing poor, and needed a way to replenish his wealth. He had already expelled the Jews and taken all their property, and it was the Knights Templars' turn to be renounced and executed, leaving their wealth to the king.

The king relayed Pope Clement V all the rumors that he had heard about the order's blasphemies. The Pope quickly gave the king papal permission to take action against the order. Philippe wasted no time. He quickly devised a plan to capture many of the higher ranking members of the order. On October 13, 1307 (The historical origin of Friday the 13th), the king invited Jacques de Molay and his knights to attend a knight of entertainment and feasting. When the knights showed up, they were arrested. Over the following years, they were tortured and interrogated until they confessed to the blasphemies that they were accused of. They were then burned to death.

The persecution of the Templars continued, directed by the papal decree, throughout the Christian controlled lands. The knights were rounded up in city after city and executed after been tortured into a confession. Their wealth were divided by the kings and clergy.

Whether the Catholic Church or the king of France started the circulation of the rumors is uncertain. It would not be surprising if they did, however. The made-up god that the Templars were accused of worshipping, "Baphomet", probably came from a corrupt translation of "Mohammed", the Arab prophet and founder of the Muslim religion.

To use or wear the Baphomet is more of a symbol of rejection, rather then a sign of faith. To wear a Baphomet medallion around your neck in modern time is a symbolic way of saying, "You have killed many in the name of 'righteousness', but we know the truth! So you can take your cross and shove it up your ass! You are all hypocrites and liars. History has proven it!" In intellectual terms, the Baphomet is a more extreme version of Christian rejection in comparison to any kind of cross desecration due to the tragic story that accompanies it.