RIP David Carradine

[Corvis Canis Latrans]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_en_ot/as_thailand_david_carradine;_ylt=AnF1IGYbBqftxY29lOz5R19xFb8C;_ylu=X3oDMTJzcjc2bHEyBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwM DkwNjA0L2FzX3RoYWlsYW5kX2RhdmlkX2NhcnJhZGluZQRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDYWN0b3JkY XZpZGNh

David Carradine was found hung in his hotel room in Bangkok early this morning. It appears to have been a suicide.

He was 73.

:(

[Bluewillow]

How incredibly sad. Rest in peace, David Carradine. :(

[Nuadu]

Its strange that a spiritually grounded man would kill himself at such an advanced age. RIP David Carridine

[green aventurine]

How incredibly sad. Rest in peace, David Carradine. :(


Its strange that a spiritually grounded man would kill himself at such an advanced age. RIP David Carridine

I agree.

[Whitewolf]

I'm in shock. :( I heard he died but I didn't realize it was a suicide. Rest in Peace, David Carradine.

[Corvis Canis Latrans]

I'm in shock. :( I heard he died but I didn't realize it was a suicide. Rest in Peace, David Carradine.

Me too. I am waiting to see if they do toxicology testing, because I can't get my mind around him committing suicide either. But I don't know why anyone would have a motive to make it look like one, either.

I also wonder if he had some terminal illness that the public wasn't meant to be aware of, and the pressure got to him.

Time will tell or it won't, but I'll be keeping my eye on the news reports nonetheless.

[kristadb]

I also wonder if he had some terminal illness that the public wasn't meant to be aware of, and the pressure got to him.


I thought his as well. My mother is 75 and has a number of health issues. She has considered dying by suicide so that she would not have to spend the rest of her days suffering with illness. I can see why someone of that age would make that choice.

[kristadb]

Its strange that a spiritually grounded man would kill himself at such an advanced age. RIP David Carridine

Spirituality often has little to do with the reasons for suicide.

He may have suffered from depression and got tired of living with that pain. He may have suffered from an illness and wanted to die before he became very ill. He may have feared growing old and fading away and wanted to die before that happened. He may have been high as a kite and didn't realize what he was doing.

[Seren_]

The original BBC report said he was found in a wardrobe with the cord wrapped around his neck and genitals. It was quickly edited and now it just says "other parts of his body" so it seems there are hints that it may have been accidental.

ETA: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

[DoktorSick]

Its strange that a spiritually grounded man would kill himself at such an advanced age. RIP David Carridine

Spiritually Grounded ?What does that really mean?
Who knows what was really going through his mind behind closed doors.He will be missed for .Kung fu was one of my fave shows as a kid.

[Caitlin.ann]

Rest in Peace. :(

[Shanti]

The original BBC report said he was found in a wardrobe with the cord wrapped around his neck and genitals. It was quickly edited and now it just says "other parts of his body" so it seems there are hints that it may have been accidental.

ETA: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm
I have heard also that the suicide talk is premature. The cause it technically unknown.
He was doing well at the time of his death too.

I dont feel it was a suicide.

RIP, another light is flying free.

[Caitlin.ann]

I have heard also that the suicide talk is premature. The cause it technically unknown.
He was doing well at the time of his death too.

I dont feel it was a suicide.

RIP, another light is flying free.

I'm having a hard time believing its suicide myself.

[Anthony41671]

Too much Kung Fu with the lovely ladies of Thailand!!

However it happened, it was a shock and surprise.

RIP

If it wasn't suicide, I hope it is solved and justice dealt.

[evergreen]

BANGKOK - Actor David Carradine (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1800017353), a born seeker and cult idol who broke through as the willing student called "grasshopper" in the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" and decades later as leader of an assassin squad in "Kill Bill (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808404742/info/)," was found dead Thursday in Thailand. Police said he appeared to have hanged himself. Link (http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/actor-david-carradine-found-dead-bangkok-ap)

:( My father and I were huge fans of his.


Edit: Oh, glad that put these threads together! Didn't mean to make a double post.

[KC Destroyer of Worlds]

Walk tall silent stranger...

[swapmeetmomma]

I just seems so strange to me, that he did that, not convinced it was suicide either. May he rest in peace regardless.

[Darth Brooks]

Holy SHIT! No no no no no no no no no NO!!!!

*sigh*

Mr. Carradine, you will be sorely missed...I hope it isn't true that you've taken your own life...You were so special to me while I was growing up...From Kung Fu to Kill Bill, you were absolutely great, top notch...And I was a big fan of your dad, John, too...

Rest in peace, sir.

[Agaliha]

It seems he had suicidal thoughts in the past--


In a 2004 interview which may have foretold his death, Carradine said: "I remember one time sitting in the window of the third or fourth floor of the Plaza Hotel for about an hour, thinking about just tipping off. And that was at a time when I was having more fun than you could imagine.
"I just thought, 'Who the ---- cares, man? Why don't I just split?' Of course I didn't, so there you go."

The actor, star of cult 1970s television series Kung Fu, said he had also considered shooting himself.
"Look, there was a period in my life when I had a single action Colt 45, loaded, in my desk drawer. And every night I'd take it out and think about blowing my head off, and then decide not to and go on with my life. Put it back in the drawer and open up the laptop and continue writing my autobiography or whatever. But it was just to see."
He told the entertainment website IGN.com: "I'm not afraid of anything. Why would you be afraid of death? It would be an inconvenience. I have a lot of undone things and it's bound to get in the way. But, no, it doesn't scare me at all."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5445266/David-Carradine-spoke-of-suicide-wish-before-his-death-in-Bangkok-hotel.html

[kristadb]

The original BBC report said he was found in a wardrobe with the cord wrapped around his neck and genitals. It was quickly edited and now it just says "other parts of his body" so it seems there are hints that it may have been accidental.

ETA: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

without being gory, sometimes when people hang themselves, they realize that they've changed their minds AFTER they are hanging there. They try to get out of it, resulting in significant tangling.

[MammaStar]

One of our customer's told us as they called in about their account. So sad. I've been moping all day. I loved him. I was a big fan and so is my Mom.

[Raxeph]

That whole thing about the rope reminds me eerily of Michael Hutchence. :(

May he rest in peace.

[Darth Brooks]

That whole thing about the rope reminds me eerily of Michael Hutchence. :(

May he rest in peace.

Oh Gods, I was heartbroken when that happened, too.

[Bettie]

Looks like it may have been autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong... what a sad, undignified end to a life...

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25590276-7485,00.html

[Fairy Disturbed]

I loved his "yellow pages" commercials too :)

May he rest in peace

[kristadb]

Looks like it may have been autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong... what a sad, undignified end to a life...

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25590276-7485,00.html

Not that I'm disagreeing with it or anything as I wasn't there, sometimes they don't list suicide if there are family members depending upon insurance. Many insurances will not pay out for suicide so the hospital is very cautious about the "died by suicide" label.

[Astara Seague]

he will be missed
what a man
at least we still have his movies and stuff to remeber him by

[lightdragon]

Looks like it may have been autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong... what a sad, undignified end to a life...

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25590276-7485,00.html

just looking through the first page. and i was gonna say this.

[memnoch]

too soon?

http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2009/06/too-soon/

[Twinkle]

Well - when you have a rope tied to your genitalia, connected to another rope around your neck - it sounds like autoerotic asphyxiation to me.

I just read a report that says his hands were also tied.

That makes me think this could be more suspect than accident.

We'll have to wait until the autopsy report, I guess.

ETA: In any event, I am sad that he is gone.

[aluokaloo]

The original BBC report said he was found in a wardrobe with the cord wrapped around his neck and genitals. It was quickly edited and now it just says "other parts of his body" so it seems there are hints that it may have been accidental.

ETA: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

well maybe the man had a secret fetish for being choked? anyways RIP David Carradine

[Seren_]

well maybe the man had a secret fetish for being choked? anyways RIP David Carradine

That seems to be the current theory, according to the Thai police, though it's not clear whether he choked himself to death accidentally or whether he had a heart attack in the middle of it all. Either way it's a terribly undignified way to go. I feel sorry for his family who are having to deal with their loss and all the media attention and speculation at the same time.

ETA: The headline on the Daily Record (a quality newspaper - kinda like The Sun) was Erotic Thrill Kills Bill :rolleyes:

[Terra Mater]

Oddly enough, when I first heard about his death and the questions of whether or not it was suicide, my first thought was and still is that this was just a case of erotic asphyxiation (scarfing) gone awry. I wasn't going to be the first one to post it because I respected the man's work so greatly.

These sorts of deaths often occur when the loss of consciousness caused by partial asphyxia leads to loss of control over the means of strangulation, resulting in continued asphyxia and death. While often asphyxiophilia is incorporated into sex with a partner, others enjoy this behaviour by themselves, making it potentially more difficult to get out of dangerous situations. Victims are often found to have rigged some sort of "rescue mechanism" that has not worked in the way they anticipated as they lost consciousness.

That his hands were tied means little since many practitioners of this particular kink are devoted students of knots and bindings. With Carradine's history it is not unlikely that he had the flexibility and knowledge to be able to tie his own hands.

[Corvis Canis Latrans]

That his hands were tied means little since many practitioners of this particular kink are devoted students of knots and bindings. With Carradine's history it is not unlikely that he had the flexibility and knowledge to be able to tie his own hands.

Not to mention he might have been overconfident in his ability to get out of it should anything go wrong....

[Raxeph]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/823472/carradine-murdered-by-secret-kung-fu-sect


David Carradine was murdered by an underworld martial arts sect, his grieving family claims.
The veteran actor was on the verge of exposing the secret sect when he was "assassinated" in a Bangkok hotel, they believe.


The family's lawyer Mark Geragos disputed claims by Thai police that Carradine died as the result of a bondage game gone wrong.
The 72-year-old actor was found with a rope tied around his neck, wrist and genitals last Thursday.


"David was very interested in investigating and disclosing secret societies, absolutely," Mr Geragos said on US talk show Larry King Live.
"What that means is connected to his interest in martial arts.
"And so there is a suspicion that, if there was some foul play, that may be the first area they should look."


Carradine became fascinated with martial arts since he played a wandering monk in the 1970s series Kung Fu.
He also played a martial arts expert in Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill films.
According to reports, Carradine's family has now asked the FBI to send agents to Thailand to investigate the case.


But one of Carradine's ex-wives, Marina Anderson, said that if the actor was involved in secret societies, "it was a secret even I didn't know about".
Anderson, whose four-year marriage to Carradine ended in 2003, has said the actor often took part in "potentially deadly" kinky sex acts.


But Carradine's manager Chick Binder points to the fact the actor was found with his hands tied behind his back, and a mysterious footprint on his hotel bed, as evidence of foul play.
"We definitely don't believe it was a suicide," he said. "David was a great guy and a great client and a great friend."



Well, this just got odd. :eyebrow: *sighs*

[Bettie]

Yeah, because I suppose to the family, the idea of him being murdered by a mysterious cult is far cooler and more dignified than the thought of him cracking one off in a closet with a rope round his neck, I guess... :hrmm:

[Nuadu]

Its also the martial arts hero trend to say the death was the result of a secret society. Bruce Lee was supposedly killed by the shaking Palm technique and his son was assasinated by the same group when a live round was put in a prop gun.

Im not 100% sure but I thought most auto erotic asphyxiation involved atleast masturbation, the lack of oxegen lending itself to a more powerfull orgasm. So DC having his hands tied up means his lover/the Thai ladies ran away when they realised he was dead. That or he was killed either way a proper investigation is needed

[Whitewolf]

I wonder what really happened.

[Astara Seague]

that my friends...we may never know

[Stormbeard]

Killed by ninjas.

[Lunacie]

It was a little surreal watching his last television performance last night on "Mental." He didn't say a word for the whole episode - it was almost like he was already gone when they filmed it.