Woman Killed Pregnant Woman, Stole Fetus So She Could Pretend It Was Her Baby

[aluokaloo]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2009311112_apuspregnantwomankilled.html


what a psychotic ****** up piece of s***! what is wrong with some people?

[Caitlin.ann]

I read of this the other night. Let me just say I'm not surprised.

Secondly, the accused is very very blobby ugly looking.

[daphnerose]

That is really terrible. The worst part is she is not going to be charged for the killing of the baby because in Oregon its not considered murder because the child was unborn. What a crock. Its awful.
daphne

[Infinite Grey]

That is really terrible. The worst part is she is not going to be charged for the killing of the baby because in Oregon its not considered murder because the child was unborn. What a crock. Its awful.
daphne

If the baby breathed one breath outside the womb it will be murder.

[Laisrean]

If the baby breathed one breath outside the womb it will be murder.

Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder of both his wife and unborn son Connor. It just depends on the state, I guess... Personally, I think it should be considered murder in every state unless the mother consented to it (ala abortion).

[Laisrean]

what a psychotic ****** up piece of s***! what is wrong with some people?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/06/07/2009311693.jpg

Well, the woman is ugly as hell... maybe no man was willing to make a baby with her? Just saying...

[daphnerose]

http://www.kptv.com/news/19700640/detail.html

The law is different state by state. California's and Oregon's laws are not the same. I'll see if I can find any reference the oregon law about murder of pregnant women.
Infinite Grey has it right, if they can prove the baby was breathing after it was removed, then she can be charged. Hopefully they can prove it.
daphne

[la tortuga]

What makes me even more sad is this isn't the most rare thing you could hear about. :(

[daphnerose]

We've had a rash of crazy stuff like this happening. Last week in the same area a father shot and killed his two young children and himself in a local wildlife refuge. It was also the same week that the mother threw her kids off the bridge in portland. Its crazy insane here in the my part of the world lately.
daphne

[Laisrean]

What makes me even more sad is this isn't the most rare thing you could hear about. :(

I know exactly what you mean. I was very shocked the first time this sort of thing happened... but this is like the 3rd or fourth time I've heard about it, so its not so shocking to me anymore.

Its probably happened even more times that I didn't hear about, and probably more times than anyone even knows about because people go missing all the time and many of them are never found dead or alive... you just don't know.

[Philosophia]

What makes me even more sad is this isn't the most rare thing you could hear about. :(

I watched a documentary on women who kill other women for their unborn babies and it is pretty common.

[Glowy]

I watched a documentary on women who kill other women for their unborn babies and it is pretty common.


yep.. this scares me to no end.

[la tortuga]

yep.. this scares me to no end.

I can't imagine why someone would do it. In my family, if one woman gets pregnant you had better bet your britches some female family member who attends the baby shower will wind up pregnant within six months. It causes these 4-5 year cycles where everyone has babies and then it quiets down for a while. Seeing a mommy-to-be inspires baby craziness! I mean, my best friend is having a baby and no doubt about it I'm feeling blue due to not having one, myself, but I would never hurt her or baby Aiden... it's just something I can't even comprehend.

[kristadb]

This is a very sad case. I don't see how the woman's looks have anything to do with this discussion, however.

Perhaps this is a Canadian thing, but I thought that it is considered murder if the mother had planned to keep the pregnancy. I thought that was how Peterson was charged with murder.

[kristadb]

We've had a rash of crazy stuff like this happening. Last week in the same area a father shot and killed his two young children and himself in a local wildlife refuge. It was also the same week that the mother threw her kids off the bridge in portland. Its crazy insane here in the my part of the world lately.
daphne

I attended city-wide discussions on crime because I am an inner city worker. The city citizens wanted the city to be safer. Now, we have a higher crime rate than other Canadian cities, so there is room for improvement. However, in reading the report, most of the "fear" about crime was from people watching CNN and reading US newspapers and somehow being unable to pull apart the crime in other places from the crime locally.

So basically, these people would read your post, and the post about the murderer, and then equate all this to feeling unsafe when NONE of it happened in their own areas.

Off topic, I know, but your comment reminded me of this.

[kristadb]

yep.. this scares me to no end.

..and don't forget the baby stealing from hospitals.

The saddest ones, I think, are the women who lose their own babies through natural death and then try to steal someone else's. I can't imagine what snapped in their minds to putting another family through what had happened to her.

[PrincessKLS]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/06/07/2009311693.jpg

Well, the woman is ugly as hell... maybe no man was willing to make a baby with her? Just saying...


:lol: I sure hope this won't be me in the future.

But on a serious note, how insane can someone be? I understand it's a normal maternal instinct to want a child but to go and steal another woman's baby because you can't have one yourself?!

[Philosophia]

:lol: I sure hope this won't be me in the future.

But on a serious note, how insane can someone be? I understand it's a normal maternal instinct to want a child but to go and steal another woman's baby because you can't have one yourself?!

Many women who steal babies have children already. The woman in this case had children:


Investigators said Monday that Roberts, who has two children younger than 10, had been telling friends and relatives for months that she was pregnant, and told many people she would have twins.


From here (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/08/national/main5074192.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._5074192).

[Raxeph]

Investigators said Monday that Roberts, who has two children younger than 10

And because of her greed, she won't be able to provide for her own children either, now. :goodgrief

[kristadb]

Greed is when you take a chocolate bar from a friend.

This is insanity.

[Djiril]

And because of her greed, she won't be able to provide for her own children either, now. :goodgrief
I wouldn't call it "greed" so much as "being completely nuts!"

[Raxeph]

I wouldn't call it "greed" so much as "being completely nuts!"

True... given that greed is defined as "an excessive or rapacious desire", and that this desire of hers was indeed excessive without a doubt, it is both greed and insanity at once. :hrmm:

I just find it very sad that her own children will suffer too, as a result of her actions. :( Knowing what their mother did too, and they won't exactly be treated nicely by other children either.


Tooley said his main concern now is to get the 10-year-old girl out of Oregon and to Montana. "I remember how cruel grade-schoolers can be," Tooley said. "How's she going to ever understand it? Nobody is ever going to understand it."
So many innocents, so much heartbreak. That poor baby and it's mother... taken away because of one person's insanity. Not even a moment of insanity- this was probably being planned for months, given the lies she was spreading beforehand.

[memnoch]

This is a very sad case. I don't see how the woman's looks have anything to do with this discussion, however.

Perhaps this is a Canadian thing, but I thought that it is considered murder if the mother had planned to keep the pregnancy. I thought that was how Peterson was charged with murder.

In the states it is a state by state basis, the pro abortion crowd is fighting tooth and nail to prevent murdering a fetus under any circumstance as murder because then they would admit that a fetus is life.

[Laisrean]

And because of her greed, she won't be able to provide for her own children either, now. :goodgrief

To be frank, considering this woman's apparent mental condition, I'd say the children are much better off now that they are no longer under her "care".

[Raxeph]

To be frank, considering this woman's apparent mental condition, I'd say the children are much better off now that they are no longer under her "care".

I concur. :( I really do wonder what her motive was in her mind... if she had a particular outcome actually planned aside from simply committing the act.

[memnoch]

To be frank, considering this woman's apparent mental condition, I'd say the children are much better off now that they are no longer under her "care".

As bad as she was as a mother/person I don't imagine she would be any worse for her kids than the government.

[aluokaloo]

To be frank, considering this woman's apparent mental condition, I'd say the children are much better off now that they are no longer under her "care".

I agree, if she's capable of doing that to a pregnant adult, what is she capable of doing to defenseless kids?

and i don't know how anyone could not see it in. she's got a scary look in her eyes.

[WitchJezebel]

What a PSYCHO NUTJOB.

[Laisrean]

What a PSYCHO NUTJOB.

Your avatar bears a resemblance. ;)

[WitchJezebel]

Your avatar bears a resemblance. ;)

*snicker*

Yes. Yes it does.

[Laisrean]

*snicker*

Yes. Yes it does.

Just to be extra sure, let's compare:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/06/07/2009311693.jpg

http://mysticwicks.com/customavatars/avatar3763_18.gif

Maybe, maybe not... *shrug*

[Cunae]

Just to be extra sure, let's compare:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/06/07/2009311693.jpg

http://mysticwicks.com/customavatars/avatar3763_18.gif



:uhhuhuh:

Hate to say it, but murder appears to be the number one cause of mortality among pregnant women... if I were one, I'd be packing a .38 til birth day!

[Kraheera]

:uhhuhuh:

Hate to say it, but murder appears to be the number one cause of mortality among pregnant women... if I were one, I'd be packing a .38 til birth day!


This is why I have a giant dog, an English Mastiff named Hercules. ^^

Trust me, people avoid me when I'm out walking him.

[daphnerose]

http://www.kptv.com/news/19762555/detail.html
I just wanted to give the latest update. It seems the woman will only be charged with robbery for the death of the baby.
Unbelievable.
daphne

[watersprite]

I read of this the other night. Let me just say I'm not surprised.

Secondly, the accused is very very blobby ugly looking.

What's "Blobby, Ugly looking" got to do with it?

[Laisrean]

The woman is ugly both inside and out.