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November 26th, 2002, 09:30 PM
I knew I could dig this up, since I did not feel like typing it out myself, hehe. The following is an excerpt from a Church of Lucifer article...the closest thing to a "pantheon" we have, I suppose.


Modern Luciferianism
By Rev. Frederick Nagash

Introduction:

By definition Luciferianism could be construed as the worship of the deity or arch-type of the energy named Lucifer. Luciferianism is often misrepresented in the public view and often mistaken for Satanism even though true Luciferians will tell you Lucifer is separate from Satan. Luciferianism and Satanism share some very similar views and attitudes but are separate entities unto themselves. There are two aspects to Luciferianism one being Deistic and the other being anti-Deistic both being acceptable as Luciferian aspects. Within the different sects of Luciferianism there are underlying principals which both adhere to, based on principals of the four kings of Hell. Living a life based on the principals of the four kings we achieve self-deification. First I'll start with the Lucifer principal than continue on to the others.

The Lucifer Principle

Lucifer's number is nine, nine being the number of pride as any number nine is multiplied into returns to itself. (Example: 9x5=45 - 4+5=9) Lucifer also being known as the "Angel of pride". This represents being proud of all things we do!

Lucifer's color is blue, blue being the color of the sky and water representing that Lucifer is all around and within us. That Lucifer is the prime element/energy that motivates and cultivates our world. Other colors Lucifer is associated with are white and silver, so accordingly altar pentagrams must be surrounded by blue with a silver/white pentagram with a black border (Shown on page ).

Lucifer's element is air, air being that which allows us to speak his words of truth as his manifestation on Earth.

Lucifer's direction is the east, east being where a lot of the sacred wisdom and the great wars will come from. It was once stated to me by a Germanic Luciferian that "a wise Magickian from Persia an Arab will come and bring with him the aeon of Lucifer" or in lay-mans terms the Antichrist.

Lucifer's human element is wisdom or applied knowledge, with time, study and practice it is believed that man can attain the Lucifer state, this only through applied knowledge or wisdom.

Lucifer's altar element is incense, incense being a representation of air, known to Luciferians as "sweet air".

Lucifer's planetary element is Venus, Lucifer being known as the morning star or first star of morning, otherwise known as Venus. Venus, known as the "Planet of love" represents the beauty of Lux Ferre (Latin for light bearer/bringer or Lucifer).

Lucifer's consort/Female aspect is Lilith, Lilith being the first wife of Adam before becoming the queen of the damned. It is said Lilith comes from the mud and the dust and is queen of the Succubi/Luciferic Witch. When Lucifer and Lilith mate they equal the androgynous being known as "Baphomet" or the "Goat of Mendes" also called "God of the Witches". Liliths number is two, also known as the number of the eternal female. Lilith is considered an equal to Lucifer to some, and the feminine aspect of Lucifer himself to others.

Lucifer's highest manifestation is through understanding of oneself, this being the goal of the Magickian/Luciferian to begin with, being as Lucifer himself, total awakening of the human god-form Lucifer. Without knowing the self one cannot hope to achieve any real understanding of anything else. Applied knowledge in action is a prime example of Lucifer's manifestation!

The Satan Principle

Satan's number is six, six being the number of "the beast" representing mans carnal nature being set free. Releasing the wolf within if you want to call it so. Sin no longer exists, nothing is sinful but to deny yourself of pleasure in your Utopia.

Satan's color is red, red being the color of emotion, Satan being the guardian of lust, anger, happiness, sadness etc…being released.

Satan's element is fire, fire being an appropriate representation of emotional outburst or ritual. Destruction and lust are the two prime elements of fire and Satan.

Satan's direction is south, south representing the dissension from God-hood to the ascension to God-hood. Creation of ones Utopia.

Satan's human element is anger, lust and primal emotion, representing the release of emotion through sex or anger and crushing of ones enemies.

Satan's altar element are the candles, Candles representing holding the flame of Satan or emotion, primal man.

Satan's planetary aspect is Mars, Mars being the planet that represents justice. Due to the biblical story of Satan punishing the sinners Satan was at times called the "Avenging Angel" or "Angel of Justice".

Satan's highest manifestation is through (wo)mans full release of the carnal will, self explanatory.

The Belial Principle

Belial's number is one, one being the number that represents earth and remaining firm to ones convictions. Bullheadedness in a good way!

Belial's color is black, black being the color of the primordial chaos before the Earth. Most Luciferic sigils have black in them in some form representing the Earth.

Belial's element is Earth, Earth being the element that sustains humanity. The carnal laws of man are dictated by the laws of the Earth.

Belial's direction is north, north being the representation of constantly striving forward and upward changing and recreating our Utopia bigger and better.

Belial's human element is remaining firm to ones own beliefs, not dancing around in pools of religious feces. Finding a philosophy which is your own and sticking to it.

Belial's altar element is the incense coal, representing Earth and (Wo)mankind holding the flame of Lucifer.

Belial's planet is Earth, previously explained.

Belial's highest manifestation is through understanding and living the natural laws of our carnal self, self explanatory.

The Leviathan Principle

Leviathan's number is three, three being the number of Chaos as three can go into six and nine but doesn't have the stability of the number one.

Leviathan's color is blue, blue being the color of the wild oceans untamed, (wo)mans carnal side overcoming him/her, chaos.

Leviathan's element is water, water being that which our human forms are primarily created of. This represent the unity of matter and anti-matter, chaos and order, yin with yang.

Leviathan's direction is west, west being used to represent chaos and disorder.

Leviathan's human element is chaos, chaos meaning manifestation of order from the chaos of the nothing. No longer controlling ones actions, words etc… and not remembering fragments of time due to anger or lust are prime examples of this principal.

Leviathan's altar element is water, used in the chalice as a sacrament to or as Leviathan.

Leviathan's planet is man or microcosm, representing the bond between man and his own lost natural self.

Leviathan's highest manifestation comes from man realizing his own deification, Just as God can create and destroy so can we. Just as water is unpredictable and can be calm one moment and crashing another so are we. That's the gift of/from Leviathan!

Introduction cont.

To the Luciferian nothing comes before the self and its development and progress into the new or "manifested self". We constantly strive to improve our-self and our "Utopia" to live the only life we'll have to the fullest and spit on those who do little yet expect big things to happen. We eliminate all whom are parasites from our utopia, deeming them dead and forgetting their existence. Luciferians are by nature very solitary even when within a group such as the Church of Lucifer. Group activity primarily consists of lectures on traditional Luciferian magick and religion as well as the occasional ceremonial ritual held on holidays. It is because of our solitary nature and individuality that we do not expect every Luciferian to "Love thy brother" as the Christians, Wiccans and even some Luciferic and Satanic groups do. Even a few Luciferians are real "A$$-Holes" who even I can't stand, let alone love like a brother. I'll leave the "sacred brotherhoods" to the Christians, Masons, Wiccans etc… In my Utopia very few and select are worthy of love, more are worthy of my hate, I find brotherhoods in the L.H.P a ridiculous notion based on a need for acceptance and a "Thrill or adventure".

Luciferian philosophy is very anti-outsiders, select family and friends are all whom make up each individual Luciferian family. Friends often being more like a member of the family rather than an acquaintance or someone of use. Everything in your Utopia is a manifestation of your own will, for good or bad. If you let someone use or take advantage of you, don't complain about it later, eliminate them like the parasite they are. Tell them you no longer will let them feed off of you and you don't want them around you any longer, erase them from your existence. If you want more money get a better job, or higher education to be paid more, the weight of your own existence is in your hands. This total responsibility of the creation and maintenance of your Utopia is what frightens off most people, we're not most people! Luciferians come from all walks of life, from blue to white collar workers striving to make their own lives more fruitful and pleasant and who don't mind stepping on toes to get there. We do not believe in apathy, self-destructive behaviors, loving everyone, killing (Physically) in the name of the COL, Satan, Lucifer or something else self-delusional. We are after all simply, Social Realists and Utopians.

"Manifested self - The self once all Luciferian principals are adhered to, the manifestation of a/the spirit through the self or a higher self"

"Utopia - everything that is around you that has some form of impact on you or your life. We create our Utopia by keeping the select few around us who are worthy of our love, getting your ideal job and or accomplishment or recognition of ones natural skills. Simply living the life we most desire and dream about"

Luciferianism: Religion of Liberation!

The term religion, is well misunderstood by most. Religion is simply philosophy in practice, in everyday life. Religion is often also known as being spiritual. Luciferians are spiritual, even if they don't believe in a manifested spirit. Spiritualism comes from the Self-Realization and responsible action, as all things in your universe are a manifestation of the will. Luciferians are responsible Social Realists, which shows a root within a spiritual compound. Morality and spirituality are what Luciferianism is and was founded on. Morals will vary from person to person. However, whatever fulfills one spiritually or internally, is indeed a work of their morals. Liberation is the cornerstone of Luciferianism. Liberation of the entire self. Liberation of the spirit, will and mind, total freedom of the self in purest form of Luciferic expression. While all other religions deny liberation, we are the embodiment of it. Responsibility must also be stressed when speaking of liberation.

Responsibility is learned once one realizes all things, bad or good, that happens in one's life is his own doing. There is no retarded "three-fold law" or "leash" to chain us down like dogs. However, if one needs money, get a job. If one is unhappy at work, change jobs to something more pleasing. Never blame others for problems in your life.

The acknowledgment of the ego in magick is really the only difference between supposed "black Luciferic" magick and white magick. In reality, when a white Magickian heals someone, they feel good inside, hence, why they do it. Even if white magickians deny it, they also use magick with ego. Magick is just magick. To label it "black" or "white" is folly. Magickal Law, much like human nature, is universal.

Luciferianism focuses on Self-Realization, Self-Deification and Self-Cultivation, and is by nature, solitary. Though Luciferianism is solitary, group practice is encouraged, so one can meet others in the same religion and learn from one another. Lucifer, being a bringer of wisdom, would best be represented through others who have a constant thirst for knowledge. A burning passion for life is what drives us toward our studies and magickal perfection. Through solitary practice, I've learned more about myself and am able to see myself for the first time. Through group practice, I've learned much more about religion and all forms of magick.

Being a Luciferian is much, much more than a title or a label. It is towards the totality of all forms of liberation. It is the intentional act of Self-Accusation and final perfection. There is a life long dedication to the self and to wisdom for one to be called a Luciferian. False emotion and martyrdom must be eradicated, as well as false egotism for one to be called a Luciferian. Finally, the term Luciferian can never be given to one with the following attributes:

Someone who speaks without action.

Someone who blames others for their own faults.

Someone who has no thirst of life or knowledge.

Someone who cares little about them self.

Someone who is afraid or hesitant of total liberation.

Someone who thinks Luciferianism is their way or no way. Luciferianism and Luciferic Thought should never be systematized or standardized to the point of alienation of individual thought.

Someone who thinks that they're "evil". Evil and Good are creations of Christianity, not of individual thought.

Someone who feels as though they need to talk, act or dress a certain way.

Someone who feels the world treats them so horribly so in turn they adapt the I don't care about anything attitude "Apathy".

The Luciferic Hurricane

In the new millennium our country will have witnessed the undoing of organized religion as the world floods, burns, and rapidly depletes into a more original primal state and Christianity falls as people realize they cannot be saved. The world has already witnessed many of these things over the past few years and they will continue to worsen and grow more fierce as time passes. You may ask why I bring this to your attention? The answer is simple, as the world drifts into there more survivalist state they will realize there is no caring, forgiving God guiding them and those that still do cling to the cross are fools! A war is currently being fought and has been fought for centuries now, the war is going on around the world, it has many faces and many names, my favorite is urban blithe. As our world moves more towards an industrial environment and as the o-zone depletes more rapidly by the day the storms and floods will continue to get worse. As our world moves more towards a home like city atmosphere the crime rate will rise to an all time high, this is what I call the "The Great Luciferic Hurricane". Why you may ask? Once again the answer is simple and right in front of your face, the very essence of Luciferianism the foundation of it is based around survival of the fittest.

This is where Luciferic ethics will reign and the so-called "Good Christian Ethics" will prove useless. Christianity is only in place to protect those to weak to protect themselves, with there love all attitude and "forgiveness is divine" crap that has no place in our worlds future, yet many will disagree and call it the "Judgment day of God" in reality it is a "Great Luciferic Hurricane" taking place where your very life may depend on Luciferic ethics, not the weak Christian teachings. Heed these words for as the time grows nearer to the due date you will need to look back and realize what was right all along, and what was force fed into your minds by your parents and the Jew/Christian controlled mass media on the old boob tube. Some may say I'm a bit paranoid and they are correct but if you look at the news paper or watch the news you will see everything I have told you is coming true right before your very eyes, this sounds a bit more like concerned then paranoid if you ask me! The fall of Christianity is obvious and the rise of a new Luciferic age is upon us, stand forth and speak your mind for now is the time to prepare for the silent war!!!!!

$alvation for $ale

Yes you to can be saved for a small donation to your local Christian Church, or this is what the hypocritical Christian Priests will sell you. There are T.V evangelists everywhere you look now a days talking about how your soul can be saved and how they can heal your illnesses and all they ask for is a donation to the Church. In reality they have no real power and it has all been a ploy to make those weak minded enough, to give up their hard earned money to that particular Church or organization. I have witnessed this first hand, for starters there are Benny Hinn, Oral Roberts, R.W Schambach and countless others that will sell you your salvation through your television set and claim the money you send will only go to help there Church. Have you ever seen a T.V evangelist with a shabby home? I ask why if money is the root of all evil do they so long for this evil, even beg for it? They claim they are a Church so that they are tax exempt and can keep all the money they take from weak minded Christians, yet if the Church of Lucifer were to try to become tax exempt it would be laughed at, I say why, we are a Church? Tax them all than!!!

Actually the answer is simple, Christians keep to Christians and only do for Christians it is religious discrimination but the government will call it something different or claim we are a cult not a Church because the government is a cesspool of one huge Christian pile of dung. No thinking, rational, intelligent human being would buy there salvation so to speak, also no rational human would believe in the garbage preached by these self-righteous idiots! But than again, most Christians believe in a big old man in the sky pulling every ones strings and having "magickal sex" with virgins where God actually has a "magickal child" who can walk on water and who died to absolve every ones sins! Sounds like a story I would have made up as a child and not something I would expect grown adults to adhere and believe in.

The Luciferian Holidays

In the Luciferic philosophy, as in any other religion/philosophy we as Luciferians celebrate our holidays. Many of our holidays are celebrated with a Black Mass and/or another ritual to suit our needs. Luciferians are life celebrating people, we shun death and live life to the fullest - that is why the unholiest day of the year to any Luciferian should be his or her own day of birth. Celebrate your birthday with ritual and partying friends and family, what ever will please you, for this is your day. Other holidays include: The Spring Equinox, Beltane or Walpurgisnacht, The Summer Solstice, Lughnasad, The Autumn Equinox, All hollows eve or Halloween, The Winter Solstice, Imbolc or Candlemass, and as I mentioned ones own Birthday. The holidays are to be celebrated as indicated on the list below:

The Spring Equinox: March 21st, Luciferian Crux or New Years.

Beltane or Walpurgisnacht: April 30th, Day of lust and indulgence.

The Summer Solstice: June 21st, Day of Celebrating ones sense of humor.

Lughnasad: July 31st, Day of the celebration of being the predator not prey.

The Autumn Equinox: September 21st, Time to reflect on ones self. Both accomplishments and failures should be reflected on.

All Hollows Eve or Halloween or SamHain: October 31st, The Fire festival, the time to settle the score with destruction rituals, curses, and Revenge.

The Winter Solstice: December 21st, The Celebration of being self-emancipated. Celebrate your own declaration of freedom!

Imbolc or Candlemas: January 31st, Day of indulgence and fertility.

Your Birthday when ever it is, Celebration of your birth and a celebration of life and your accomplishments.

Liber Luciferi Preface

This is my second installment to "Liber Illuminatus" and also one of my most complex works I have written as of yet. I could not include my normal "Thanks list" in this section however, nor could I take full credit for it's creation as it was simply written predominantly through me by Mammon. This Holy or "Unholy" work to some, is my personal bible and study guide to illumination. I have gone through great perils to bring this information to those who read this now, I stand at risk of loosing my very life from some who would wish this text not to be written. I feel this book will help many whom have been blinded by faith and bring more humans happiness through the light of the most holy one, Lucifer. I cannot stress study of this guide enough as many hidden secrets lie ahead throughout this tome and may be discovered by those who truly wish to find them...

---Once man secludes himself from the eyes of god, he becomes god!

- Rev. Frederick Nagash


This tome, published via electronic means for sole distribution of the Church of Lucifer and it's I.3* adherents is a guide through esoteric Luciferian belief structures. The Church of Lucifer retains all legal rights to it's publication and owns all rights to it's distribution. If this manual of Luciferic religion is passed on to ANY of whom the Church of Lucifer wishes not to retain a copy, membership privileges will be revoked and legal matters may be ensued.



Liber Revealing
By Mammon through Rev. Frederick Nagash

This book of revealing unmasks death and creation as well as the temples of Hell on earth and Hell below. This book shall be my secret bible of the hidden knowledge of the holiest one of brightness.

I - Before Creation

In the beginning, before man, before the Heavens all was abyssic. The great void of the mind of God.

God being of pure mind, thought Lucifer into creation and poured out the cup of knowledge unto him.

God than gave Lucifer physical form and gave him power over the ornaments of brightness.

Than all was quiet!

The chaotic void of the supreme one above was silenced.



II - The Fall of Lucifer and the Rise of Man

Lucifer learned under God all things of a divine nature.

Lucifer became than weary of the nothingness and darkness and spoke unto god these words: "I your son Lucifer, petition unto thee for a divine kingdom"

So as god replied: "I lord of all things, the almighty one shall createth for us a divine place of my rest."

And so were the Heavens formed.

Lucifer than in his divine aspects created the planets and stars under the will of God.

God than created the company of Heaven and named them.

Then the one above spoke thusly to Lucifer: "Son, thy father commands thee to bring light" Lucifer so parted the darkness and all was shown.

God hath now seen the face of Lucifer, perfect and unscathed and so God said to all "Let there be light"

The years passed and no words were present in the Heavens. Lucifer broke the silence and said unto God: "Lord almighty, Father of my being, I hearken unto your glory for a peoples to show thy grace and my beauty" and so God created the creatures of the earth from which man evolved.

Man in his first civilization was shown by God their divinity but saw not his face. So Lucifer appeared before man and said: "Thy gifts are plenty chosen ones, thy lord God hath sent me to teach of you the divine sciences" and man came to love the angel of light with as much love as that of God.

God, the one above became jealous of his first creations beauty and the bond that was formed with man and Jehovah cursed at Lucifer.

And Lucifer said unto God: "I have done nothing to thee father, what hast thou forsaken me"? and than god spoke: "Come unto me my son and take thy measure of justice. For man looks unto your face and may witness your beauty but cannot see mine. So unto you do I transform your face to hide your beauty unto the horns of defiance".

God than transformed Lucifer into part goat and cast him from Heaven so that he may never hear the word of his father again.



III - Of Hell

Lucifer, alone and lost in the darkness, begotten by his father God and he wept.

A voice uttered up to him softly and said: "Son of God our father, master of this place now, release your anger and be set free". And Lucifer shouted aloud and his light lit up the dark underworld and caused aflame all things. Then Lucifer saw the gentle voice.

IV - Beauty Revealed

And the voice had a face and a name. Lilith the most perfect demoness and Lucifer the most perfect and divine one indulged in their carnal lusts.

And from their lust spawned forth a unity of supreme knowledge and power and so forth they art known in their union as Baphomet.

And the two joined as one, in perfect love and far from the eyes of their unloving father.

V - The Fall of Man

The one above to punish humanity for looking unto Lucifer's face, cast them away from their divine nature and forgot of them.

God then said to his servant angels: "The Heavens are my sacred resting place, Lest the earth is my foot stool, yet man shall worship me as their supreme master".

VI - The Angels Fell Like Rain

And the spirits and angels of Heaven saw unto gods nature and found the truth which lifted their hearts.

So 11,000 angels fell under the wings of Lucifer, yet not before the one above stole their beauty.

VII - Templi Dei Privilgium

Unto the great fall of the angelic ones, Lucifer shouted to the deaf ears of his father and said: "I govern all things down in this place and I shall erect a temple. Thy temple shall be of the private law or great law and man shall find my temple on earth as it is in Hell".

And so in three days the great temple was built and unto it the wisdom was passed on. And of the temple of the private law is shown thusly: "The law of this temple is thusly spoken; Angel and man alike must live their lives to completely fulfill the needs of their "Will" and by doing so will be able to see their divine truths".

Of the temple three seals of the great mystery are revealed, firstly the star of man:
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Secondly the seal of mans creation:
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Thirdly the Star pentacle of Lucifers Dual Nature:
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Lucifer than said: "Within thy temples of my private law we shall be free of the eyes of my father".

And in this great law does man take up as creator and the blacksmith of his domain.

So not even by divine influence may those oppressive fiends pervert this perfect law, so it is written!

IIX - Angelical

Lucifer set things aright with the law he professed. In Hell the spirits were divided into legions of lesser and greater spirits and seven were sent unto the planets to watch over man which are the Archon.

And Lucifer granted unto the Archon the seven secrets of man and gave the planets life.

So man forgets not his divine truths he gave all men a guide through their journey of life. All spirits of the earth are governed as incarnate of their guides. And forswore these spirits to serve their earthly masters.

And Lucifer set forth minions to watch over the true virtues of men so that all learn of the private and great law.

So herein doeth I speak of these spirits of thee Angelical hierarchy of Hell.

Of the Archon:

Arathor - Of Saturn and justice.
Bethor - Of Jupiter and medicine.
Phalec - Of mars and war.
Och - Of sun and wisdom and health.
Hagith - Of Venus and beauty.
Ophiel - Of mercury and the divine sciences of Magick.
Phul - Of the moon and of wealth.


And of the spirits of the virtues:

Mammon, Bael, Mephistopheles, Asmoday, Astorath, Berith, Lucifuge Rofocale, Agares, Amy and Lilith.

Should man need to call one of these spirits they shall come and be seen.

IX - The Secret book of "Furvus Deus"

And the sons of man should be shown no sign of God an shall taketh his child and show him thy masters glory. And in the event of you knowing death, you are to pass through your spirit into your first born son or daughter.

Taketh them by the left hand and wrap it in yours, then bind them in white cloth. stare through the child's eyes and sayeth: "Unveil not the mysteries of death unto my spirit".

Then the child is made unto thy image by drawing the pentagram inverted upon their brow with your index finger. Now you may exit your body and enter theirs.

X - Of Virtues

Harm none, lest they harm you.

Show kindness to all, even your enemies! For they are less likely to suspect your secret workings.

Reflect on your words before you say them.

Refuse not your woman if she will.

Teach in children the virtues given.

Impose never on anther's will.

Reflect on your deeds before you do them.

All things of this world are yours.

Love the few but love wholly.

Hate any whom would impose on thy will.

Preach only to those who wish to hear it.

Preserve thy religion of the divine truths.

Hide Lucifers face from the profane.

XI - The Statement of Nagash

The gift of knowledge is more important than that of any gift of wealth. The secret art shall be revealed to all in time.

Through Mammon I have had the mysteries of creation revealed to me, the nature and seals of the spirits revealed and the great work made perfect and infallible. So as through you shall be guided by your divine guide.

Under the light of Lucifer we are entitled to the lawlessness of unbridled knowledge. Search and expand your thoughts beyond the plane of thought and beyond the words of man, heed these prophetic words!

So endeth this book!

Liber Astrum Infernum
Or the "Star Infernal"
By Mammon through Rev. Frederick Nagash



Assuming you know the nature of the four Princes of Hell, I will further move into the Divine aspects of the nature of the master of the infernal lords and man in the words of my guide the treasurer of Hell, Mammon.

Liber Astrum Infernum

I - Lucifers Name

Lucifer, the aspect of light of the divine truths. Even Thoth is rivaled in his wisdom for he created creation from the abyssic void of the mind of God. Perfect in his beauty and mirrored to none is thy morning star. Fear him not, the wisdom shall protect thee from Samael. And in his holy light may we go in peace. And in his seal and prayer we may gain his wisdom, from his very name may we bring him glory. And his seal of duality is thus:

In the name of our Lord may we pray to find also our own divinity. For the Prince of light is Microcosm, he is pride, he is knowledge and truth, we shall stride to hide his face from the profane so that none may pervert his divinity. Man, begotten by God, has been embraced anew. The new aeon is of the blood of Heaven and the renewal of the "true" will. For the chosen sons of pleasure shall rise up and taketh for our lord a throne of justice.

And through the light shall thee prevail over thine blinded sheep of God. For the God of this world cares not for thine. And the illuminated shall be bright enough to blind the eyes of God so that he can causeth no more pain in the world. So let it be done!

II - The Testament of Mammon

Lo brother my legions of 30 and number of 24578 or 8 alone. And I the lone one, formless and void wanted to know the love of God and he smote my eyes so that they blackened. He than mocked me with a crown upon my brow and gave of me the head of the ancient mammoth and the body of man.

Lucifer, took up of my weary heart and spoke the airs of love. On that day of mine dissension I was to anointed in the blood of the Heavens and the Light of our Lord and given the rule over the Treasure of Hell. Than thy almighty lord of light granted me reign over 30 legions.

III - Of the Divine Aspects of Man

Man, by nature is in a spiritual slumber. He who is light and life brought man about through his father to witness his beauty. In allowing man to witness his true self or face is to open up thy mind to the knowledge of his true "Divine self". During mans entrance to this fleshly shell his mind is eradicated and he is forced to begin the arguous journey of life. By the end of a mans life he will have amassed a specific amount of knowledge of the divine self. However, when man studies not of his divine nature of himself he is forced back to earth in another shell to start his life journey all over again. When man finds the light of his own majesty only than may he die a full mortal death.

IV - Of Hell and Death

As man passes through the layers of life and gains his wisdom of self divinity, at death his soul leaves the body in three days from the eyes. The soul than travels through thy river stix and is greeted by the hag who strips them naked of earthly vestments. Than the divine self must go before the lord of light and answer nine questions, if wrong he is sent to the lower pit or the frozen Nephilim to be taught and if correct that man may join Lucifers legions. Death should not be feared for it is not an end but a beginning.

So endeth this book of the star infernal!

Liber Evolution
By Mammon Through Rev. Frederick Nagash

There have been no defined truths to how man came about and how we have evolved.

Religion claims it to be the work of the divine, science claims we arose from animal and both are correct.

Lucifer ask god "For a peoples to show thy grace and his beauty - Liber Revealing book 2 verse 8" so in fact Lucifer created man however we were not man yet.

Man came about by evolution from animal as science proves.

Our evolution is on going and is by far not complete. Until we reach our Carnal selves on a natural basis the process of evolution is at a stand still and what we believe is evolution has really been education.

Forced evolution has actually lead to humanities spiritual slumber humanity is in and in doing so has caused humans to un-evolve.

If we are to achieve Asar-Un-Nefer we must allow ourselves to revert to our previous self so that evolution can continue what has begun.

Asar-Un-Nefer is to allow mans "true" will and divine self to merge on the physical plane of existence and become the one mind or godform. To even attempt this, is and should be considered "The Great Work".

And man in his divine form will rise up from the ashes and profess to all "My will be done" and all shall listen.

For we are the choosen ones, and in our glory shall the weak kneel before our majesty and shall the strong stand beside us. For the weak ones are of the blood of the false prophet and of lies and will be cast abroad far from our eyes.

Lest our evolution shall become known and the weak shall try to pervert us but we must stand strong, hand in hand, heart in heart and side by side.

Of the Angelic Spirits
Rev. Frederick Nagash

All of the angels whom fell after Lucifer and were granted their fill of love by he who is Light and Life will not be spoken of herein. Instead I will give the prime essence of the spirits of Hell rather than an elongated explanation of all 11,000 spirits. Angels, Demons, Cacodaemons, Spirits, Daemons, watchers or Archon, spirits of the Virtues etc... all of which I will explain in detail in this small text.

Spirits - Spirits are inferiors who simply died, most Christians will be made into spirits at death. Spirits are servants and jesters, young and old and all are tormented by the infernal ones. Spirits are those whom in their earthly bodies denied the face of Lucifer and were enthralled by their master the one above. All men of the earth will sin for it is in their "true" nature to do so, therefore all men will be sent before the Lord of Light. The lords of Hell will not take kindly to those who are of the uninitiated bloodline and therefore be cast to the pits of Acheron to be tormented.

Spirits of those whom we love in this lifetime who are not of the initiated, once we become of the same blood of the prince of light we may save them a seat beside us in Hell. This goes with saying that we will all study the Divine nature of our true selves and look unto the face of the Holiest one of light.

Angels - Angels or fallen angels are those whom defied the will of the one above and fell either with Lucifer or slightly after. In all cases the Angelic spirits whom were once of Heaven are the most powerful of all spirits of Hell. Of the Angels whom fell, the princes of Hell (Lucifer, Satan, Belial and Leviathan) are the only ones considered Major Deities in Hell as the others are defined by the masters of wisdom in the highest.

Cacodaemons - Cacodaemons are what an angelic spirit becomes once he has found his earthly master. Mammon being my Cacodaemon was also one of the Fallen angels as is all Cacodaemon.

Demons - Demons are solely humans whom through their earthly studies have surpassed the questions asked at death by the Morning Star. Once all questions have been answered correctly by the human Lucifer will transform the being into a pure spirit or demon and the human will take a form of his/her choice. Also note that humans playing a large part in the uprising of the new age will also join Lucifers infernal army and take on so many legions of their own to command as they please.

Archon or Watchers - The Archon are spirits cast into the planets to watch over humanity placed as so they could make things aright. All things done on the earth are governed by Lucifer through the Archon, and the term Archon literally translates to "Ruler". The Archon are lesser spirits as they are solely commanded by the attributes which the certain planets they reside on permits. Greater explanation of the Archon can be found in "Liber Revealing 8:2, 8:3, 8:6".

Spirits of the Virtues - The Spirits of the Virtues are that which govern the natural laws of man and set forth hidden laws to enforce them. These lesser spirits are those most trusted by the lord of light to help man return to his state of evolution. For a greater explanation of the Spirits of the Virtues refer to "Liber Revealing 8:4, 8:7, 10".

Daemons - A demon is defined by one who is part human and part demon normally due to procreation between incubus and succumbs and man or woman. To this day Daemons walk the earth in mortal form, however there are some distinguishing characteristics:

One who is stronger then most even if they do not have a muscle in their bodies.
One who is especially seductive and can and will bend others to their will via their sexuality.
Knowledge beyond what man is taught, like instinct but much stronger.
One who has an instant understanding of the mind, both how it works and how to bend others to theirs.
One who can read and comprehend things instantly at an amazing rate.

Also there is an unspoken understanding that when man dies and truly studies his divine nature and true will, yet cannot properly answer the nine questions of Lucifer, he is sent to the lower pit to be taught what needs to be known. I am uncertain what this type of spirit is called, however I do know that after his training in Hell he is reincarnated to earth in a new body.

Liber Magicka
By Rev. Frederick Nagash

I - Principia Magicka

Magickal practice should not be confined to simply ritual or ceremonial it should be made very personal and not solely defined by one man or women's perception. Magick should become a tailored art to fit personal lifestyles and individuals and should never be boring or repetitive. Certain forms of traditional magickal practice exist solely in the human subconscious and can not be put into words. Certain daily rituals we perform every morning can be considered magickal such as certain people need to drink coffee to feel complete in the morning and some may need to get washed and dressed before even stepping outside of the bedroom all of which make a day feel or seem complete.

Magick should not be confined to a ritual chamber either, it should be where ever you see fit, mental or psychic magick should and is performed everyday sometimes without you realizing it. The Evil eye which makes others feel uncomfortable is one way of using magick without using magick. Chaos magick is a complete system of magickal practice, yet so is what ever one creates him/herself. For magick to be accomplished "properly" one need only look at their accomplishments and realize that magick has played some key role in it's development. Once true magickal potential is realized there is no stopping the unstoppable force within you.

II - Magicka Extremis

Magick is an art form within itself, and within every art form their is the artist. You play the key role in how far you take your magickal progress, only you can define you. Using certain elements from daily practice can lead you to ritual magick later in the evening. Such acts are "perfect" if done whole heartedly and without doubt. Every day of your life a ritual is performed, you wake up, start your day, wind down in the late afternoon than sleep at night. To break such rituals is yet another magickal act known as "Metamorphosis" by drawing from this rite it may lead you to yet another facet of magick, Gnosis. Gnosis is used as a form of trance like state the magickian can move into when depravation of certain kind happens.

Going days without sleep is one way to reach the state of Gnosis, going days without eating is another. Also Gnosis can be reached at any point in which pain becomes unbearable. To reach gnosis simply concentrate on nothing and completely clear your thoughts, like passing through the head of a needle. The two methods combined equals the state of gnosis. Clearing your mind of all things is the most difficult of all things in magickal practice, your mind races day to day with a million thoughts and stopping them is hard and takes practice. Meditation can also lead to Gnosis by someone whom is very experienced in it, as can some forms of chemognosis (But chemognosis is highly un-recommended).

Also a deep understanding of concentration is needed to perform magick acts. You must be able to focus, Visualize and concentrate without looking. This too is a very difficult task but becomes second nature in time, it has been called many names throughout history but my favorite is the evil eye.

III - How to Deliver the Evil Eye

The evil eye is probably the most important component to the Sorcerer or Witch. The evil eye allows one to perform almost anything at the blink of an eye, from the greatest destruction ritual in less then 10 seconds to the most elaborate ceremonial rituals (Mentally) once again in about 30 seconds. The evil eye should be used to make others feel disturbed in your presence. Also a good use for the evil eye is if a confrontation is to ensue it will instantly strike fear in those whom would wish you harm. The best way to learn the evil eye is to sit with your hands in your lap in front of a mirror with one lit black candle in front of you. Stare through the flame of the candle into the mirror and through your own eyes without blinking. Now allow yourself to think solely of something which will enrage you but stay calm and continue to stare.

Focus hard on your pupils then attempt to zone out or reach the gnosis state, when you reach this state of nothingness you have stared through your own eyes. In time you will gain the instant power to use the evil eye at will. You must be careful on how you use it as you may strike down someone you don't want to harm that much. In all things in magick being careful and responsible are the two prime laws.

IV - Black vs. White

To the true Magickian magick has no limits or boundaries and cannot be classified under any one practice. White magick is supposedly magick done without ill intent and never for the gratification of solely oneself. I ask you by performing a healing ritual to some it may be white magick however you also are gratified in the knowledge that you helped someone therefore the theories of White Magick are without a doubt "Black". Black Magick is supposedly magick done with an ill intent and for the sole purpose of gratifying ones self. I ask again if conjuring a demon to protect your family from the greater evil of humanity or to destroy someone who would hurt you or a family members, is this evil or is it truly white?

I purpose we as strong willed powerful incarnate should not concern ourselves with black and white only what is in our heart. If magick is done from the heart, It will never fail and will be as pure as the driven snow weather dealing with demons or a god. It is up to the magickian on what he studies but there should be no limits on what is black or white or evil and good. We are pure beings during magick we are purified in the image of our own divinity and therefore if we do our "will" cannot be harmed and our magick will pure.

V - Terminology

I call myself a Sorcerer or Male witch, some have asked why I choose not to use the term Warlock or Pagan and well the answer is simple. Warlock was a term given to male witches during the "Burning Times" it literally means "Oath Breaker", all true Magickians will never break a bond or oath and therefore are loyal to one another and themselves. Pagan was another term given derogatorily to all witches meaning "Country Dweller" I will not recognize the term Pagan either as it was given in a derogatory manner by the uninitiated. The Term "witch" is not simply a female term, a witch is simply one whom weaves magick same goes with sorcerer, magi and magus. I perform all forms of ritual and magickal practice so I personally use the term Magus or sorcerer.

VI - Lucifer beyond Lucifer

Lucifer is an incarnate being of many cultures and beliefs. Manifestation of Lucifer can said to have taken place in almost all cultures of ancient society. Pan the God of the Pagans, The Nature god is also a great spirit whom came to be known as Lucifer. Marduk, the great slayer of the ancient ones, the anciet ones whom were the first of all gods Marduk defied. Marduk has come to be known as Lucifer. The point in trying to get at is in magick no matter what deity one uses or calls on for assistance there is that spark of Lucifer. You conjure the oldest of spirits and it is Lucifer so in fact the use of any other spirits in ritual can be most helpful as they may hold certain attributes which the Lucifer incarnate does not have currently.

VII - Zorabia

Zorabia shall be our secret word, Torelia our secret place and the earth our home while in our mortal bodies. Zorabia translates from the Hellish Language to Spirit or pure being, so from this day forth I am known as Zorabia. The four Princes of Hell also form Zorabia and the very word should be treated as holy or of their word.

Mythrel
November 26th, 2002, 09:51 PM
I read the first part of this...it's gonna be a couple times reading I feel...so far I'm intrigued...will read more soon...

thanks for the post

FlamedLilly
November 26th, 2002, 09:58 PM
that was very informative. But I've never heard of Lillith being Adams first wife. . .Something to think about. So just one question, you said in an earlier post that you are a satanist, but then referred to a link that as lucifirian(sp) so are you a satanist or the other? do you feel there really is a difference between the two?

st0rm
November 27th, 2002, 11:12 AM
I'm gonna print that out and read it before I go to bed...

MammaStar
November 27th, 2002, 12:12 PM
Thanks for all the info. I must say I'm more intrigued now. I haven't gotten through it all yet, however, I have a question and was just wondering if you can help shed some light on the subject.

Why does the author refer to Wiccans as a$$h0les, when clearly, Wicanns & Satanist/luciferians share the same holidays, and some of the same principals?

Just curious.

I'm gonna print this out so I can continue reading. :D

Lavender
November 27th, 2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by FlamedLilly
that was very informative. But I've never heard of Lillith being Adams first wife. . .Something to think about. So just one question, you said in an earlier post that you are a satanist, but then referred to a link that as lucifirian(sp) so are you a satanist or the other? do you feel there really is a difference between the two?

There's a few really old threads floating around in here about Lillith. She's a pretty interesting subject. :)

Gwion
November 28th, 2002, 02:12 AM
'Tis too much proved--that with devotion's visage
And pious action we do sugar o'er
The devil himself
Polonius, HAMLET, III, i

I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
would harrow up thy soul, freeze thy young blood,
make thy two eyes like stars, start from their spheres,
thy knotted and combined locks to part,
and each particular hair to stand on end,
like quills upon the fretful porpentine.
Ghost, HAMLET, I, v

It will have blood, they say; blood will have blood.
Macbeth, MACBETH, III, v

He is now as valiant as Hercules that only tells a lie and swears it.
Beatrice, MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING, V, i

To be demanded of a sponge! what
replication should be made by the son of a king?
Ay, sir, that soaks up the king's countenance, his
rewards, his authorities. But such officers do the
king best service in the end: he keeps them, like
an ape, in the corner of his jaw; first mouthed, to
be last swallowed: when he needs what you have
gleaned, it is but squeezing you, and, sponge,
you shall be dry again.
Hamlet, HAMLET, IV, ii

Confess yourself to heaven,
Repent what’s past, avoid what is to come,
And do not spread the compost on the weeds
to make them ranker.
Hamlet, HAMLET, III, iv

Ganga
November 28th, 2002, 10:17 AM
I just have to, have to ask this question regarding East as being the direction where the "great wars" come. Whose East? Europeans' East? Americans' East? This is so... well, what about Australians' East? Chinese People's East? Hmm.

Raevyn
November 30th, 2002, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by LdyStarlite
Why does the author refer to Wiccans as a$$h0les, when clearly, Wicanns & Satanist/luciferians share the same holidays, and some of the same principals?

Admittedly I haven't read the whole post yet, but I was curious as to what principles Wiccans and Satanists share?

I believe that the reason "Wiccans are @$$holes" is primarily because a lot of Wiccans believe you have to love everyone, help people out, and become a more spiritual person. A lot of Wiccans believe in new age stuff, and asking Gods for help.

In Satanism you look after yourself first, and stupidity is thought of as one of the worst sins. You don't give stupid people help, and you don't ask for help - everyone is charged with responsibility for their own circumstances.

Then again, I'm used to Satanism, not Luciferianism, or at least I'm used to the kind that doesn't look at Satan as something that exists physically as much as an archetype.

All imho.

Kaylara
November 30th, 2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by LdyStarlite

Why does the author refer to Wiccans as a$$h0les...



Because a lot of them can be @$$holes, especially to Satanists.

Raevyn
December 2nd, 2002, 11:31 AM
heh, yeah there is that too.

Marchosias
December 5th, 2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by FlamedLilly
so are you a satanist or the other? do you feel there really is a difference between the two?

Ive thought about that much myself. If you got to the part about Lucifer/Satan/Leviathan/Belial, they all represent different sides of us. So yes, in MY case, Satanist, Luciferian are interchangeable. Technically, Belialist and Leviathanian would also work. They are the four facets of the...I hesitate to say "religion" for some reason, but you get the idea.

Aine of the Fae
December 6th, 2002, 03:57 PM
I haven't finished the article yet, but I am finding it very intriguing. Much of it agrees with my own personal philosophy of 'self and family above all else'

Stacy
December 16th, 2002, 04:30 PM
Great article..thanx for posting it..

BB
Stacy

Grey
February 22nd, 2003, 01:55 AM
bumpa-bump-bump

fire_Raven
February 22nd, 2003, 10:06 PM
Yikes... i'll have to read all that in inqurments!

mol
February 24th, 2003, 10:31 AM
Very informative! I have read a bit about the differences between modern Satanism and Luciferianism, but never as in-depth as that article took it. Thanks for the information. I will definitely be looking up even more about the subject.

Hamelyn
February 24th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Feel obligated to say something at this point, as Satanism's interested me. It is a well-thought out article, though I'd be interested in hearing the views of some of the first-hand followers. And yeah, I can understand the lack of desire to use the term "religion."

In any case, all of them are things I should look more into.

mol
February 28th, 2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Hamelyn

Feel obligated to say something at this point, as Satanism's interested me. It is a well-thought out article, though I'd be interested in hearing the views of some of the first-hand followers. And yeah, I can understand the lack of desire to use the term "religion."

Followers of what? Luciferianism?

Hamelyn
February 28th, 2003, 02:51 PM
Followers of Luciferianism, or Satanism, or just about any of the related things. Where I live, people walk around with the pentacle and various occult symbols without really knowing much about it. All of the Satanists are punk rocker hopefuls who were raised as Christians and prefer to not to research. All that I've met, anyway. I'd like to meet and have an in-depth discussion with someone who follows any path I view with interest. I guess I feel that you can study a philosophy or religion as much as you want, but without someone or something applying it, making it a real, active thing... until a person comes along who really holds a path dear to them, I guess it seems somewhat distant, to me.

Luckily I'm blessed with diversity amongst my closer friends. So, that's good. Hee.

mol
February 28th, 2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Hamelyn

Luckily I'm blessed with diversity amongst my closer friends. So, that's good. Hee.

Well, my philosophy (I hesitate to put any kind of label on it) borrows heavily from Satanism and Thelemic principles. Of course, this may be the wrong forum and thread to discuss it. Maybe we can get something going in Theology & Philosophy. :)

I Luciferi
March 1st, 2003, 12:08 AM
Good show my friend! I am very happy to see the acceptance that I see here in this place, even though acceptance is not something I generally look for or care about. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Avar_Merithien
March 1st, 2003, 01:08 AM
Wow! This is interesting. I've read on Satanism before, but haven't heard much of Luciferianism. I'll have to take notes(which will take awhile since I'm out of printer ink).

AChristian
June 9th, 2004, 04:00 AM
I still don't understand the whole Luciferian/Satanist P.O.V If things like Good and Evil are propaganda because they're Christian ideas or philosophies, then doesn't that make Lucifer/Satan propaganda as well. You might as well call yourselves EasterBunnyians.

Muireannach
June 9th, 2004, 04:41 AM
Because a lot of them can be @$$holes, especially to Satanists.

Many Satanists, including myself, can agree with that statement. There is a small core of ignorant elitists in every religion and path and even Wicca has a few.

Muireannach
June 9th, 2004, 04:45 AM
Followers of Luciferianism, or Satanism, or just about any of the related things. Where I live, people walk around with the pentacle and various occult symbols without really knowing much about it. All of the Satanists are punk rocker hopefuls who were raised as Christians and prefer to not to research. All that I've met, anyway. I'd like to meet and have an in-depth discussion with someone who follows any path I view with interest. I guess I feel that you can study a philosophy or religion as much as you want, but without someone or something applying it, making it a real, active thing... until a person comes along who really holds a path dear to them, I guess it seems somewhat distant, to me.

Luckily I'm blessed with diversity amongst my closer friends. So, that's good. Hee.

There are people in my town who dress up in scarves and moodrings and call themselves witches. They aren't really, but they like to masquerade around and destroy people's view of wicca must to the dismay of actual wiccans.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are fluffbunnies in every group and that they should not be considered when forming an opinon. I think you said it best when you said:

" I guess I feel that you can study a philosophy or religion as much as you want, but without someone or something applying it, making it a real, active thing... " :)

Muireannach
June 9th, 2004, 04:49 AM
I still don't understand the whole Luciferian/Satanist P.O.V If things like Good and Evil are propaganda because they're Christian ideas or philosophies, then doesn't that make Lucifer/Satan propaganda as well. You might as well call yourselves EasterBunnyians.

Propaganda actually is an attempt at thought control really and bending opinions and really we are not out to bend anyone's opinion or "recruit."

Satan in the bible never did anything majorly wrong, he just disagreed with God. It's funny to think that over the years Chrisitans would tell tales of Satan lurking in the night to invade bodies and so forth when there is no biblical evidence to back that up. So essentially the modern image of Satan is "propoganda" but the actual storyline when pure and unbiased is not really.

Muireannach
June 9th, 2004, 04:51 AM
By the way this is an excellent thread. Thankyou!

Aidron
June 9th, 2004, 05:25 AM
This is definitely one of the more fascinating posts I have seen witin this community. Just as I have much in common with Satanism in terms of beliefs (not so much practices in terms of my own craft), from this article I apparently have a great deal in common with Luciferianism. Many of the points made I found very intriguing, from the bit of trivia concerning the number 9 (which I tested out several times with a calculator before believing it), to the information about Lucifer, Satan, Belial, and my personal favorite, Leviathan (just a shame he is associated with water instead of air ;) ).

I am simply disappointed I have not run across this sooner, and now, must know more, so I have yet one more topic to fling myself into research mode over.

I have to admit, I am not the only one who saw many similarities with Wicca and Witchcraft in general. The sabbats/holidays for one, but also elemental associations. For example, I associate air with most of what Lucifer represents and fire with most of what Satan represents. I would not consider it a far stretch to even compare them to Sylphs and Salamanders either.

I'm still in a bit of awe, so rare do I find anything this fascinating in one large lump sum, but then again I have been fascinated by and in agreement with may Satanic principles for a long time, and given their similarities, I suppose it is not surprising. Even their differences I enjoy.

mydemand
June 14th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Hmm, interesting! Turns out I have a lot in common with Lucifer and the whole Luciferian beliefs o_O And Lilith is my patron goddess, after all.

Though Satan spooks me really. hmm...

probably my Muslim upbringing coming through! will need to think this through!

(I don't make sense do I? :P)

B*B, Tiara

charmedkisses1
June 20th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Admittedly I haven't read the whole post yet, but I was curious as to what principles Wiccans and Satanists share?

I believe that the reason "Wiccans are @$$holes" is primarily because a lot of Wiccans believe you have to love everyone, help people out, and become a more spiritual person. A lot of Wiccans believe in new age stuff, and asking Gods for help.

In Satanism you look after yourself first, and stupidity is thought of as one of the worst sins. You don't give stupid people help, and you don't ask for help - everyone is charged with responsibility for their own circumstances.

Then again, I'm used to Satanism, not Luciferianism, or at least I'm used to the kind that doesn't look at Satan as something that exists physically as much as an archetype.

All imho.
no
alot are a$$holes bc they are hypocrites

charmedkisses1
June 20th, 2004, 03:43 PM
I haven't finished the article yet, but I am finding it very intriguing. Much of it agrees with my own personal philosophy of 'self and family above all else'
well most humans put themselves first anyway. sometimes for selfish reason, sometimes it's just natural

CleftOfLight
November 25th, 2004, 06:07 AM
Falling angel? God then Lucifer? I didnt think luciferians believed that at all,since the religion of lucifer predates christainity.This sounds more like the Peacock Angel cult then luciferianism.

CleftOfLight
November 25th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Satan in the bible is the Accuser for god,to see if people truly believe in god.I dont know where the fall comes from because its not in my bible.I thik that was made up i the middle ages.

Morning Star
November 25th, 2004, 09:20 AM
*shrugs* Yes - It is very strange to see such beliefs. Lucifer and Satan are not supposed to be one and the same.

DamienDeville
November 27th, 2004, 09:46 AM
Very interesting post.Im not Luciferian,but the directional elements are the same as I use.I accept Lilith as the female co creationist with Satan,but not as the wife of adam,that comes from Judaism.And their views of the creation is too Abrahamic for me.In my view belial,lucifer,leviathan and satan are all aspects of One being,not seprate entities.

MoonAnu
November 28th, 2004, 01:52 PM
Very fascinating thread. I've always been interested in Satanism/Luciferianism. Since Lilith is my patron, I was somewhat suprised to see her mentioned in Satanism, but on the other hand it does make quite a bit of sense. I'll have to look more into this path. At the moment I'm studying the Sumerian/Assryian/Babylonian pantheons, but I can always include more into my studies. ;)

- Merryck

DamienDeville
November 28th, 2004, 02:11 PM
.I dont know where the fall comes from because its not in my bible.I thik that was made up i the middle ages.
That would be in Ezekiel 28 basically verses 14-18.The whole story seems to blend an acount of a king of Tyre with an annointed cherub,so theologians tend to think the king of Tyre was a metaphor for the devil since satan is looked upon as one of the major cherubs that protected the throne of god.

Ramarious
November 28th, 2004, 03:42 PM
I finally feel at home somewere, Thank You.

CleftOfLight
December 1st, 2004, 04:27 AM
That would be in Ezekiel 28 basically verses 14-18.The whole story seems to blend an acount of a king of Tyre with an annointed cherub,so theologians tend to think the king of Tyre was a metaphor for the devil since satan is looked upon as one of the major cherubs that protected the throne of god.
Thank you very much.I know the quote you are talking about.I will have to re-read it,see what I an get out of it.

♪Hazel♪
December 28th, 2004, 04:49 PM
:ugh: Hmm.. I'm a little confused as far as I've learned; Satanism I've read believes in no diety, but rather uses the representation of Satan as a symbol of independance, indulgence, rebellion, and personal power. So, in essence when they say "Hail Satan", they are actually referring to themselves.
So does this mean Luciferians follow a different belief system than Satanists do? Or is Lucifer the same thing as Satan?.. I may just not be making a connection here, or may have been misinformed. Any help?

AdNoctum
December 28th, 2004, 07:09 PM
:ugh: Hmm.. I'm a little confused as far as I've learned; Satanism I've read believes in no diety, but rather uses the representation of Satan as a symbol of independance, indulgence, rebellion, and personal power.

Some Satanists are atheists, some are not. Satanism is a highly individualized religion, so it's not a good idea to assume that all Satanists believe the same exact things. :)


So, in essence when they say "Hail Satan", they are actually referring to themselves.

Not necessarily. Theistic Satanists who say that would be referring to Satan, whatever their personal interpretation of Satan may be.


So does this mean Luciferians follow a different belief system than Satanists do? Or is Lucifer the same thing as Satan?.. I may just not be making a connection here, or may have been misinformed. Any help?


That really depends on the individual Luciferian. Some probably equate Satan and Lucifer, but I've more often heard that they consider the two to be seperate entities. I'm not Luciferian, though, so don't quote me on that. :whistle:

healeri2
February 27th, 2005, 01:12 AM
In regards to fulfilling ones own personal power:

I can understand how Christians can go to the extreme on the subject of Satan. Christ was the pure example of selflessness (and I think everyone knows that what the fundamentalists believe about Christ hopefully is very different than his actual intent and purpose).

In the selflessness aspect, Buddhism is very similar where banishing the ego is the way to nirvana. In Buddhism, the ego thrives on desires, and desire leads to suffering. I think Christianity has a similar idea of "temptation" is "sin" - but by putting it in such terms have made it seem so much dirtier (especially since fundamentalist obsess about this stuff and make it out to be evil and all their followers feel guilty until the very end), than the similar concept Buddhism holds. In this viewpoint, it sees that when one has a desire, the wanting the searching the feeling of need leads to a feeling of emptiness until that desire is fulfilled. In that way it leads to ones own suffering, and one inflicts it upon themselves by always chasing after that need of fulfillment of the multitude of desires that come about moment to moment etc. And once that desire is attained, another desire is just around the corner, leading to the same emptiness and the need for doing many burdensome tasks and activities, and bothers of the mind. Take for example you really desire someone, but can't have them - what is the result - suffering, chasing, worrying, wondering, etc, etc, depending on how you react to this type of thing. Another example, if you want to have a perfect body. You will constantly be looking in the mirror, maybe working out to exhaustion, spending lots of money on dietary supplements, never feeling fully happy with yourself, causing your own suffering. Think about how unhappy you were when you wanted something, and if you didn't get it. The cycle is repeated over and over again when trying to consistently fulfill the desires of the self.


In this way, with parallels to Christ's example of being beyond the mere desires this world has to offer to the point of allowing his own physical self to be brutally destroyed without showing an ounce of desire to hold onto the impermanent thing (the body/the ego), and knowing that a feeling of freedom is attained once one realizes fully that letting go, not grasping after, or holding onto the things that come and go (such as one's impermanent desires) leads to freedom of the higher self.

In this way, I can see that the need to serve the selves "temptations" or desires, is like a prison. In this perception, reaching the higher self is freed.

Although I do not consider myself any religion, I find it very interesting to try to see the deeper, underlying meanings outside the dogma.

Salanthos
October 8th, 2005, 06:19 PM
interesting... a lot of it makes sense in how people act, even though I hold a different beleif it is interesting to learn of someone else's beleif.

Ville Lover
November 28th, 2005, 10:02 AM
To those who aren't fimiliar with the difference between SATAN and Lucifer. Lucifer is the all most powerful person who actually exists (well to those who believe) and SATAn is the evil part of anything. Satanism is the belief in the power and Luciferism is the belief in the person who once was and still is.

Adam213
December 9th, 2005, 04:53 PM
That was an extremly informative article.

BlueMoon13
December 9th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Where did THAT thing ever come from??

When most informed people refer to Satanists or Satanism (not knee jerk-"OY! That's eeeeevil!" fundies,pagan and otherwise), they are referring to members of the Church of Satan or those who follow the Satanic principles as set down by Anton LaVey, which are'nt as outrageous as people might think. For example, Rule XI in my sig. Everyone who considers themselves to be intelligent should read through the Satanic Bible AT LEAST once, so they can be informed when the topic of Satanism comes up.
:smoke:

Qeniheru
December 10th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Very interesting read, I must say. :)

child_of_somnus
March 4th, 2006, 11:07 PM
that information is copyrighted and should not have been posted, to the moderators of this group, you should remove this post as i dont beleive fred would like you having that information freely given.
i shall inform him and see if he has anyhtign to say, as im sure he didnt give permission for it to be distributed.

Little Billy
March 5th, 2006, 01:11 AM
that information is copyrighted and should not have been posted, to the moderators of this group, you should remove this post as i dont beleive fred would like you having that information freely given.
i shall inform him and see if he has anyhtign to say, as im sure he didnt give permission for it to be distributed.

Make up your mind...do you want the mods to handle it, or are you going to run off and pester poor Fred?

Tulip Tree
March 5th, 2006, 03:01 PM
What I've read so far is really enlightening.

Seriously, though, I've always thought of Lucifer as similar to Prometheus, a bringer of helpful knowledge and wisdom to the masses. And Satan was like a supernatural, biblical prosecutor, with God as Judge and the common man as poor schleps who can't afford an attorney.

The very idea of bringing knowledge and power to the masses is a threat to authority. Prometheus was treated as a tragic hero, condemned and maligned by the gods for bringing fire to humans. It seemed to me that Lucifer was a similar symbol for Christianity. "Don't think for yourselves, don't seek wisdom, have faith in what you are told. People who seek personal wisdom wind up in Hell with Lucifer."

I think that Lucifer is a powerful symbol of gaining wisdom even when living under oppressive beliefs. Lucifer, the light bringer.

Thanks for this thread.

Little Billy
March 5th, 2006, 03:14 PM
What I've read so far is really enlightening.

Seriously, though, I've always thought of Lucifer as similar to Prometheus, a bringer of helpful knowledge and wisdom to the masses. And Satan was like a supernatural, biblical prosecutor, with God as Judge and the common man as poor schleps who can't afford an attorney.

The very idea of bringing knowledge and power to the masses is a threat to authority. Prometheus was treated as a tragic hero, condemned and maligned by the gods for bringing fire to humans. It seemed to me that Lucifer was a similar symbol for Christianity. "Don't think for yourselves, don't seek wisdom, have faith in what you are told. People who seek personal wisdom wind up in Hell with Lucifer."

I think that Lucifer is a powerful symbol of gaining wisdom even when living under oppressive beliefs. Lucifer, the light bringer.

Thanks for this thread.


I agree with this 169%

Tulip Tree
March 5th, 2006, 03:45 PM
I agree with this 169%Where's my other 31%? :eyebrow: