Wizard or Santa Clause???

[Grey_Bear]

After seeing a few pictures lately of "Santa Clause" I'm beginning to see a resemblence between "Him" and Wizards.
Is it just me or could Santa Clause really be a Wizard???
What do you think?

[Siarlas]

Well of course he is! How do you think he travels all around the globe in only one night?? :T

[Gwion]

worship Santa

[AmbivalentMirage]

I think Santa must be a fairy...how else does he get down chimnies?

[shnen]

Originally posted by Gwion
worship Santa

:lol:

[FlamedLilly]

I think it's a very good possibility, isn't he supposedly supposed to be friends of the elves and the little creatures/ people?

[Gwion]

but I was walking through the toy department the other day and I think Santa has some kind of arrangement with Harry Potter.

[shnen]

and how did he make those reindeer fly??? ;)

[Rubi Waters]

Originally posted by Gwion
but I was walking through the toy department the other day and I think Santa has some kind of arrangement with Harry Potter.
:rotfl:

[Flaire-FireStar]

Well......If you see some of the older pictures of Santa (where he's tall and thin, wearing this bejeweled cloak), he does look much like a wizard. ;)

Why can't that be the Santa we all know? :rolleyes: That big, fat, jolly guy scares me!

[Pan]

If I remember the legend of Santa.. He was a normal boy adopted by elves. He made toys and started to give them away. Well, the elves didn't want him to die, so they made him immortal and gave him flying deer to be able to reach the children of the world.

I think that's how it goes.

[Witchy Cowgirl]

The Santa that comes to our house wears Wranglers with his big red coat, black western boots and a black western felt hat. He get cookies and milk, like everyone else leaves....but there is also a bucket of sweet feed left out for the deer.:D

[FlamedLilly]

That's how it's done around our house too WC!!!

[Grey_Bear]

Originally posted by Flaire
Well......If you see some of the older pictures of Santa (where he's tall and thin, wearing this bejeweled cloak), he does look much like a wizard. ;)

Why can't that be the Santa we all know? :rolleyes: That big, fat, jolly guy scares me! LOL:lol: :lol: :lol: that is a good one, I never thought of it , but I:m more intone too the older more vintage form of old st-nick

[WynterWynd]

our modern Santa is just a Wizard who had too many chocolate chip cookies!!:D

[Iris Moon]

I'm still too disturbed by 'Nightmare Before Christmas' to think too much about it!

[WynterWynd]

what disturbed you in Nightmare Before Christmas??:eek:

[Iris Moon]

Bizzarely, Jack Skellingtons legs! I had a friend when I was little and when I stayed over we shared the same bed- I used to cry because I got the window side, which had a view right down to the bottom of her garden....you see, her garden was back to back with someone who'd gone and stuck an (imitation, I hope) decapitated head on the back of their garage roof- I used to have a nightmare about that head on an oversized stick body, tiptoing around the back garden and looking through the window like a nightmarish version of the BFG- years later I saw The Pumpkin King creeping about on rooftops with his long legs, and I guess you could say there was a reaction......

Also have an irrational fear of The Judder Man, the Childcatcher, and Terry Wogan.

:)

[Faery-Wings]

Originally posted by Loki Panwit
If I remember the legend of Santa.. He was a normal boy adopted by elves. He made toys and started to give them away. Well, the elves didn't want him to die, so they made him immortal and gave him flying deer to be able to reach the children of the world.

I think that's how it goes.

This was a wonderfully Pagan themed Christmas special. I think the name was the Life and Times of Santa Claus or something similar to that. I taped it off the tv last year. The Great Ak, leader of the immortals was the Horned God and who accpeted the infant to live with them. And later, tehy gave himthe cloak of immortality to keep him from dying.

I also read in Green Witchcraft that Santa is a Chistianized version of the Holly King and his 8 reindeer symbolize the 8 sabbats of the Wheel of the year. Even if this is not historiaclly correct I like to agree, as I combine the two holidays in my house.

[Witchy Cowgirl]

Oh, Isis Moon, I can see where that would get to ya! I loved NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS! But if I had not so friendly images like that - I'd be leary too!

[Faery-Wings]

Originally posted by Loki Panwit
If I remember the legend of Santa.. He was a normal boy adopted by elves. He made toys and started to give them away. Well, the elves didn't want him to die, so they made him immortal and gave him flying deer to be able to reach the children of the world.

I think that's how it goes.

This was a wonderfully Pagan themed Christmas special. I think the name was the Life and Times of Santa Claus or something similar to that. I taped it off the tv last year. The Great Ak, leader of the immortals was the Horned God and who accpeted the infant to live with them. And later, tehy gave himthe cloak of immortality to keep him from dying.

I also read in Green Witchcraft that Santa is a Chistianized version of the Holly King and his 8 reindeer symbolize the 8 sabbats of the Wheel of the year. Even if this is not historically correct, I like to agree, as I combine the two holidays in my house.

[Iris Moon]

But the Oogie Boogie man was one of a kind. Class! If we had trick or treaters like that where I come from, Samhain would be much more interesting!

[Armitage]

I loved how they made Jack move....Incredibly smooth for clay. :D
And we all know Santa's just a tool of the Illuminati, sent to keep us all complacent with gifts. :2G:

[Witchy Cowgirl]

Originally posted by Iris Moon
But the Oogie Boogie man was one of a kind. Class! If we had trick or treaters like that where I come from, Samhain would be much more interesting!

Ah yes, the Ooogie Boogie Man. Hubby wants to dress up like him some year! That'll be soooooooo cool!

[crystal_night]

I read somewhere that the resemblance between Santa's hat and a Witches hat were too striking. Only the fact that Santa's hat has a fur ball on the end and flops over to the side and a witches hat is pointing up in a cone of power. I don't remember all of what I read about it, but it stuck in my mind.

[WynterWynd]

I dont blame you Iris Moon!! If I had that image stuck in my head adn then saw Jack, I wouldn't like him either!!!




guess I better not show her the Jack doll I made, hu??:rolleyes:

[Iris Moon]

Come to think about it, everything about my friends old house was in some way terrifying, or strange. From the Halloween she swore she saw a 'little green man with a big head' at the top of the stairs, to the conspiracy about the three bears living in her forever locked garden shed (countless hours spent peering through the keyhole)....and that horribkle Nutcracker video she made me watch with the Ragman in it.

Did I mention we were only five at the time. That might explain a few things.... :)

Talking about Wizard or Santa Claus, I've been thinking about a book I picked up in the library last year called 'The Real Santa Claus'. It puts forward various theories on his origins, from the Jesters in travelling Mummers plays of the middle ages, to saying he was actually a representation of Thor or Odin, diluted to make it more acceptable to Christian Europe.

Personally, I like the Wizard idea- but the thought of more pagan deities surviving into the mainstream is quite inspiring, don't you think?