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Vampiel
August 27th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Or rather she found the police.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/27/california.missing.girl/index.html



(CNN) -- A girl abducted in 1991 as an 11-year-old has been found alive in California, the El Dorado County sheriff's office said Thursday.

Jaycee Dugard is in good health, the office said in a statement, but provided no details.

Jimmy Lee, a spokesman for the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Department, confirmed that a man and a woman have been arrested in connection with the case, but could provide no other details.

Earlier Thursday, Carl Probyn, Dugard's stepfather, told CNN that an FBI agent had called his wife, Terry, on Wednesday afternoon to tell her that Dugard had been found.
The girl was last seen walking to her bus stop in South Lake Tahoe, California, on June 10, 1991, according to the FBI.
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Probyn said Dugard walked into a police station in Northern California (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/California) earlier Wednesday. He said the FBI agent told his wife that authorities had "Jaycee and the people who she was with."


Id be interested to hear her story.

Isabel
August 27th, 2009, 03:06 PM
I just saw this too! I'm glad she was found, but it really peaks my curiousity.

Lunacie
August 27th, 2009, 04:17 PM
That's amazing. I can't even imagine finding out my child who had been missing for nearly 20 years wasn't dead after all. She looks like her abductors took good care of her, hm?

Vampiel
August 27th, 2009, 05:32 PM
That was an artists rendition of what she could look like not an actual picture if you read the subtext. I wondered about that myself.

Lunacie
August 27th, 2009, 05:39 PM
That was an artists rendition of what she could look like not an actual picture if you read the subtext. I wondered about that myself.

Oh... duh. Totally missed that. Now I'm even more curious . . .

Glowy
August 27th, 2009, 07:01 PM
I am glad she and her daughter are free. 18 years in a shed of a sex offender.. OMG that poor woman. I can't even imagine how many times he abused her and the daughter he impregnated her with. What an SOB

Hope
August 27th, 2009, 08:17 PM
There is a link in my local paper, that he had a blog

http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/


Vampiel
August 28th, 2009, 11:40 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/27/california.kidnap.shed/index.html



From the time she was an 11-year-old, blue-eyed, freckle-faced blonde until she was a 29-year-old woman with two children, Jaycee Dugard was kept locked away in a backyard compound of sheds and tarps by a couple police say abducted her.
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But tucked away beyond the tangle of bushes, high grass and trees was a blue tarp that concealed the only world Dugard had known since her abduction.

In it were sheds and tarps, a makeshift bathroom and shower, along with electricity supplied by an extension cord. Kollar compared the primitive conditions to camping.
Dugard lived for several years there by herself. The sheds were locked from the outside.
She grew up and had her captor's children there, and raised them there.

"None of them have ever been to school, they've never been to a doctor," Kollar said. "They were kept in complete isolation in this compound, if you will, at the rear of the house," he said.
"They were born there."

The children, both girls, are now 15 and 11.
"They are all in good health," Kollar said in response to a question about how Dugard and her children are doing. "But living in a backyard for the last 18 years does take its toll."


:flamer:

Djiril
August 29th, 2009, 03:12 AM
I find this quote really disturbing:

But Garrido said he had "completely turned my life around" in the past several years. "You're going to find the most powerful story coming from the witness, from the victim," he said. "If you take this a step at a time, you're going to fall over backward and in the end you're going to find the most powerful, heartwarming story."
He added, "Wait 'til you hear the story of what took place at this house. You're going to be absolutely impressed. It's a disgusting thing that took place with me in the beginning, but I turned my life completely around."

Makes me think there is probably some Stockholm syndrome going on here. It would make sense.

Philosophia
August 29th, 2009, 03:21 AM
Makes me think there is probably some Stockholm syndrome going on here. It would make sense.

Yeah, I think she might have it as well. Plus, she's probably extremely afraid of him.

fire child
August 29th, 2009, 04:01 AM
Yea that guy has some problems, and i bet those girls are going to have many years of psychiatric treatment to deal with.

Thunder
August 29th, 2009, 07:42 AM
Yeah, I think she might have it as well. Plus, she's probably extremely afraid of him.Probably not... that is the point of Stockholm syndrome. Captives come to admire and empathize with their captors... the fear is replaced by loyalty and affection.

HetHert
August 29th, 2009, 09:29 AM
*shaking head* she was 14 when she gave birth to her first child. ugh.

Ariste
August 29th, 2009, 11:18 PM
14 and presumedly raising the baby alone in a shed...

Kraheera
August 30th, 2009, 02:18 PM
I'm up for slowly cutting off all of his limbs. This case got me feeling extremely violent, and I wouldn't mind indulging on this guy. Grrrrr....

Vampiel
August 30th, 2009, 03:02 PM
I'm up for slowly cutting off all of his limbs. This case got me feeling extremely violent, and I wouldn't mind indulging on this guy. Grrrrr....

But that would make you just as bad as him, after all punishment and a crime have the same thought process and reasons behind them /sarcasm

Kraheera
August 30th, 2009, 05:21 PM
But that would make you just as bad as him, after all punishment and a crime have the same thought process and reasons behind them /sarcasm

Maybe it would make me as bad as him... but I doubt it. There's slowly cutting limbs off a man, and then there is stealing 18 years of someone's life and making them bear your children.

I think he's still the worse one, especially since there is no real way for the kidnapped victim to become a functioning member of society any time soon, and those two kids are going to be so far behind everyone else... It's disgusting.

Thunder
August 30th, 2009, 08:10 PM
I'm up for slowly cutting off all of his limbs. This case got me feeling extremely violent, and I wouldn't mind indulging on this guy. Grrrrr....I have a feeling you might have to wait your turn... and that the line would be long.

Thunder
August 30th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Maybe it would make me as bad as him... but I doubt it. There's slowly cutting limbs off a man, and then there is stealing 18 years of someone's life and making them bear your children.

I think he's still the worse one, especially since there is no real way for the kidnapped victim to become a functioning member of society any time soon, and those two kids are going to be so far behind everyone else... It's disgusting.HE was being sarcastic.

Philosophia
August 30th, 2009, 08:46 PM
But that would make you just as bad as him, after all punishment and a crime have the same thought process and reasons behind them /sarcasm

And because crime and punishment have always got the same reasons so it's always easy to distinguish the two /sarcasm.

Caitlin.ann
August 30th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Uhh ****...I've never bothered with whether that made me worse than anyone else. I have no sympathy when it comes to these types. "Oh he we mentally unstable"..oh well so am I..lock away the key! Or kill him..don't care.

Kraheera
August 30th, 2009, 10:36 PM
HE was being sarcastic.

I know that. *snicker* but generally I'm a little more into WHY things were done. In this case, I truly don't care. This case just really bothers me, and I hope that man falls over and rots. Flesh eating disease! Yeaah!

Epona44
August 30th, 2009, 11:15 PM
I mean: a man with people living in storage units supplied by electrical cords in his back yard and babies being born there? This is slavery.

I once read a fictional story about a huge soccer stadium filled with people. Aliens from outer space came down and attacked all the people on one side of the stadium, killing them. But the people on the other side went on watching the game. Before the aliens attacked, they surrounded the unaffected side with an S.E.P. (Someone Else's Problem) Field.

:geez:

Jrdyn
August 31st, 2009, 03:03 PM
What really gets to me is that this man had a wife who was apparantly with him during the abduction and is still alive and married to him.
If my hubby decided to keep a child sex slave (or any variation thereof) in our back shed - there would be some mighty colourful words said. How could any person, self respecting or not, put up with a spouse doing that.
They both make me ill.
I hope the victim and her children get the support and treatment they need.

Lunacie
August 31st, 2009, 03:28 PM
What really gets to me is that this man had a wife who was apparantly with him during the abduction and is still alive and married to him.
If my hubby decided to keep a child sex slave (or any variation thereof) in our back shed - there would be some mighty colourful words said. How could any person, self respecting or not, put up with a spouse doing that.
They both make me ill.
I hope the victim and her children get the support and treatment they need.

They hypothesize that the girl was brainwashed over time - I suspect that the wife was also brainwashed in a way. It's just sad that someone would be susceptible to having another person control them in that way. Which does not in any way negate her being held responsible of course but it might ameliorate her share of culpability.

Twinkle
September 5th, 2009, 09:30 AM
They hypothesize that the girl was brainwashed over time - I suspect that the wife was also brainwashed in a way. It's just sad that someone would be susceptible to having another person control them in that way. Which does not in any way negate her being held responsible of course but it might ameliorate her share of culpability.


I agree with this. I didn't realize how susceptible some people are to controlling and manipulative people until I looked around and saw how every single action I made was manipulated by another.

No...it doesn't make one any less responsible for their actions, but it did give me insight into seeing how another could allow things to happen to them (or someone else) without even realizing it.

In a situation like this - where the focus is survival, I can see how it would be even more prevalent.