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Iris Moon
November 28th, 2002, 03:57 AM
I've started a new thread because this is an issue that has been worrying me for a while now, and I wondered if any of you could help. I'm having problems with getting rid of the Christian preconceptions I've been taught when I was younger- these aren't feelings that I want to deal with or enjoy having, they make my initial studies more complicated than I think they should be.

It's taken a lot of soul searching for me to actually come out in the open (to myself and a few close friends) about my beliefs. I've always had them, and they've always contradicted ky Christian upbringing- but I had a bad experiance a few months ago, you see, I was in love with a man who loved me back, we were so much a part of each other it was scary, and it had an otherworldly quality to it that I would call magic. But he was a Jehovah's Wittness, and he shouldn't have fallen in love with me in the first place. I never plucked up the courag to talk about my own beliefs, except to say that I respected his, but believed someting very different myself. Eventually the strain became too much, and we admitted that religion meant so much to him that he had to give me up, and I went through a horrible period afterwards of having all my old fears about paganism ressurected. I know that I'm on the right track, but because I've been brought up being made to believe one thing I still have a part of me trying to tell the 'free' part that it's wrong.

For instance, I can see how Christian writers have demonised the horned God in using him as the blueprint for our image of Satan, and that this is nothing more than blatant discrimination and one religion trying to assert it's correctness over another- but there is still a part of me that fears this image. This confuses me because right now I have a better relationship with the God than the Goddess- I know she's there, and I feel her presense all the time- but he is the one who appears to me more regularly in dreams and visualisations.

I don't know what all of this means, or if it is normal- I just needed to know if anybody had any similar experiances, or had any advice on how to overcome this built in prejudice?

Confused,

Iris xxx

Ari
November 28th, 2002, 05:04 AM
The Horned One is a popular image of the God, but He's not the only one. If you find the whole 'horned with hooves' thing problematic and evocative of Satan, you can always work with other God forms that are more comfortable for you, and perhaps closer to the image of God you were brought up with.

Raevyn
November 28th, 2002, 12:08 PM
Not to mention, sometimes you deal with things you're afraid of for a reason. My guess is this is something you have to work through yourself.

Amber Ravenstar
December 1st, 2002, 04:09 PM
I had the same problem you are describing with overcoming the Christian stereotype of horns=devil.

Try antlers instead. I have always pictured Herne with stag antlers, and it works very well indeed!

The only other association I can think of for antlers is that of Santa's reindeer, and there is nothing sinister in that!!! :)

Pan
December 2nd, 2002, 04:51 PM
I've actually never had this sort of problem. I just discerned it that the Christian God and Devil are their own.. why should I hold the Pagan God to their standards?

I'm closer to the God than the Goddess.. I've just never related to her at all. The God is my strength and love, while the goddess is my rules and strict mother-type.

I was more than ready to let go of Christianity. I was more holding on by my pinky finger, looking for something to fall on. When I found the path I'm on.. I took the plunge and never looked back.

So I can't say that I know where you're coming from, bcause I don't. But I can tell you how I did it. And I just did. :)

Good luck.