Chaos Magic

[PaganSpirit]

I'm kind of surprised there isn't a thread here yet for chaos magic, or at least a general sigil magic thread. Soooooo, I guess I'll start one here. :boing:

[Agaliha]

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Hello, you posted in Magic & Rituals FAQ (http://mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=560) which is a resource/reference forum, not one for posting threads in (by members, only Guides and Admins). It's mentioned in the sub-forum description as well as a sticky referring to it as well: Please read before you do anything in this forum... (http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=198898) I will move your thread to the main Magic & Ritual forum ;)

I will see how many threads there are about Chaos Magic and if there are more than a few, I'll make an entry for it in the FAQ.

[Nox_Mortus]

well seeing that the idea behind chaos magic is achieving results via whatever methods work, I think it's a bit of a complex topic. Sigil magic is interesting stuff, A.O. Spares methods work pretty well from my experience although I don't use them very often for various reasons.

[Garm]

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[information]Hello, you posted in Magic & Rituals FAQ (http://mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=560) which is a resource/reference forum, not one for posting threads in FAQ.

Well chaos is off to good start

There were, or are, I haven't been around much lately to be sure, a number of discordians on this forum that asserted that chaos was their thing and then they got their own subforum which is supposedly where chaos is supposed to discussed so that is why we don't have a chaos magic subforum

I've never been pleased about this

And I noticed I just posted this at 333

The number of Choronzon

I think I better get back to work, I do the night shift alone here

[David19]

Chaos Magic is definitely interesting stuff, here are some really good links:

Austin Osman Spare (http://www.hermetic.com/spare/)
http://www.cantrap.net/
Specularium (http://www.specularium.org/) - Peter J. Carroll's site
Ramsey Dukes essays (http://occultebooks.com/articles/rd_EssaysfromRamseyDukes.htm) (the rest of the site is good too)
Try and check out some stuff by Ray Sherwin (he wrote 'The Book of Results' and 'The Theatre of Magic').

IOT America (http://iota.goetia.net/)
IOT UK (http://www.iot.org.uk/)
- The group Carroll and Sherwin started.
List other IOT links (http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Esoteric_and_Occult/Magick/Chaos/IOT/)
Temple ov Psychic Youth (http://www.ain23.com/topy.net/) - some good articles
Also, Frater U.:D has written some good books, and articles (http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/ud.php)

[Chaos Hawk]

Well chaos is off to good start

There were, or are, I haven't been around much lately to be sure, a number of discordians on this forum that asserted that chaos was their thing and then they got their own subforum which is supposedly where chaos is supposed to discussed so that is why we don't have a chaos magic subforum

I've never been pleased about this




our own subforum....that is WAY to organized for this Chaos follower

[Rudas Starblaze]

we used to have a "negative magic" forum on here that somewhat specialized in the more realistic aspects of witchcraft but a bit too much for lighter side hence alot of bitching and moaning.

so now we have MWD. :thumbsup:

[kaosxmage]

Keep in mind the point of Chaos Magick is using belief as a tool. The aim is to strip away the dogmatic BS, and get down to what works.

Every forum on MW is fresh ground for a Chaote. I've been a member of many of the Chaos Magick forums floating around the net. They all too often sink into bad physics and the jerk and squirt reductionist approach of Sigils.

Very rarely do you find the real potential of Chaos Magick Theory being discussed and shared: Exploring consciousness, Gnosis, and the way the art shapes and changes you the practitioner for good or ill.

--Kaos

[brymble]

I make extensive use of sigils in ritual and artwork. I prefer Spare's method, although I do combine it with other, more so-called "traditional" methods such as magick squares and the use of magickal alphabets as well.

Does anyone here practice automatism?

As ironic as it sounds, I love the practicality of chaos magick.

[PaganSpirit]

Keep in mind the point of Chaos Magick is using belief as a tool. The aim is to strip away the dogmatic BS, and get down to what works.

Every forum on MW is fresh ground for a Chaote. I've been a member of many of the Chaos Magick forums floating around the net. They all too often sink into bad physics and the jerk and squirt reductionist approach of Sigils.

Very rarely do you find the real potential of Chaos Magick Theory being discussed and shared: Exploring consciousness, Gnosis, and the way the art shapes and changes you the practitioner for good or ill.

--Kaos

Reviving an old thread, as chaos magic has been back on my mind a lot lately.
I'd really like to learn more about the real potential of chaos magic. I'm generally more interested in the self-transformative aspects of magic rather than mere sorcery, so I'm often drawn to ceremonial magic, but then I tend to get very turned off and overwhelmed by the whole complicated process of it. From what I've seen of chaos magic, though, it seems to be used mostly for worldly gain. What potential is there beyond this? Can a chaote reap all the spiritual benefits of a ceremonial magician without the overly-elaborate and expensive extra stuff that goes into it?

[Xander67]

The Power is in the INTENT.

If you are not willing to make the effort then why should the diety grant your petittion.

Magic is not just saying a few words and instantly without effort change occurs.

You do not need to buy ellaborate tools or fashion intricate props. What is important is your desire, your knowledge, and intent. If you are looking for a quick and easy solution to life's situations, then magic will not be for you.

There are some simple spells that do not requre much planning and research, but the success of that spell, as with any spell, depends greatly on your seriousness and the amount of energy you build. Your subconscious will not think your spell is a priority if you approach it with a halfhearted attitude, (not saying you have one, im just speaking for reference)

The tools used are meant to be focus aids to help the mind make the connection with the subconscious and communicate your intent.