Strawberry Quartz gone bad?

[EntwinedScylla]

I purchased a piece of tumbled Strawberry Quartz from a store some years ago. I believe it to be the real deal because the store tends to be reputable, and the price was somewhere in the $4-$7 range (more than the usual stones by a good clip).

The problem is that the stone developed a really nasty vibe that I absolutely cannot get rid of. I tried salt soak, sun bath, moon bath, herbal soak, encasing it entirely in salt and burying it for a time... nothing works.

The vibe has come down a few notches... holding it no longer feels like holding a pulsating alien tumor... but the vibe is none-the-less still very disturbing.

What methods would the resident rock hounds suggest for either another go at cleansing, or properly disposing of it?

[Sakurako]

Try burying it in the earth. It's a longer method of cleansing but it should pack a big punch so to speak. If it still feels icky after a month or two I'd rebury it to dispose of it.

[EntwinedScylla]

I actually have burried it, as I stated in the original post. It was there for, I think, a full lunar cycle.

[lightdragon]

from what i am gathering. What you did is working but it needs more time.


try for a longer period of cleansing. this time for like 6 months to a year. I had problems with a lapis. took me two years or so of constant sun and moon cleansings to finally get rid of any negative vibes. and one piece of amazonite which was drained of energy needed about the same time to replenish it's energies.

This is why i never really gave a specific time for anything. I usually gave for about a few hours or a few days. those are for common drains or negative absorbtions.

[EntwinedScylla]

I'm certainly open to that option. I suppose now would be as good a time as any. As of right now it's been between "Melt it in a forge" and "use it for my 'sensing energy' classes"... but it really needs to be brought down a few more notches for that. :)

I'll probably bury it in a particularly earthy bit of yard, put a capstone over the spot (last time I did not, but had no trouble finding the spot), and see what happens.

I'm still open to other suggestions though. As this helps fill in the blanks for me, and for others who's stones go a bit freaky.

[lightdragon]

As of right now it's been between "Melt it in a forge" and "use it for my 'sensing energy' classes"... but it really needs to be brought down a few more notches for that. :)


was doing a little research. and i think you might have been on the right track with this statement. Now strawberry quartz is a real stone, but is rare and expensive. does this strawberry quartz have needlike inclusions in it? if so then it's real. if not then it is just a colorful piece of glass which absorbed bad energy.

[EntwinedScylla]

It's pinkish (more like rose or lithium quartz than the color I see offered most of the time) with a look that resembles weak asterism, and a dark smokey quartz portion that looks like a chevron or phantom at one end.

It is a real stone of -some- kind. Whether or not it's legitimately strawberry quartz (even extremely low quality sort) is another matter.

[lightdragon]

It's pinkish (more like rose or lithium quartz than the color I see offered most of the time) with a look that resembles weak asterism, and a dark smokey quartz portion that looks like a chevron or phantom at one end.

It is a real stone of -some- kind. Whether or not it's legitimately strawberry quartz (even extremely low quality sort) is another matter.

it seems real.

also bear in mind if they are beads or donuts then it's almost positively a fake. as well as little spots of dark coloring.

[randomleigh]

send it to me, I'll fix it. I use dark energy and would be happy to have some around.

muhahahahaha

Random

[EntwinedScylla]

I also use "dark" energy. There is a huge difference between "dark" and "diseased". This is "diseased".

Now, if you like working with things that feel like cancerous tumors, diseased flesh, and a rotting wound from a brown recluse bite... you might like this stone. I highly doubt, though, that this is the kind of "bad" you mean. But then again, I would not put even a speck of that energy into the hands of someone that would think of using it.

I should be clear that this stone will not be sent away or given to -anyone-, especially someone I do not know. That option might be easy (hey, it wouldn't bemy problem anymore, would it?)... but it would also be highly unethical.

I was given a suggestion that I ought to put it into an array of Solution Quartz... or specifically, "cram it in a jar of the sand-sized ones and set it outside for a while." I have not worked with Solution Quartz (yet)... so I'm not sure how that might work.

[LunarSoldier]

holding it no longer feels like holding a pulsating alien tumor

Can you describe more how this sensation feels when you're holding your crystal? You are feeling something from it and you find it unpleasant.

IMO I don't think there's anything wrong with your crystal. Crystals are rocks and they simply don't become ill and this applies to minerals also. The crystal absorbs and generates. Sometimes it can provide feedback, such as the feeling you have. By cleansing them it doesn't "wash" out dirty energies. It cannot be that. Crystals don't turn nasty or cancer infected!

What you're experiencing is an actual sense of your crystals own life and energy. You're finding it bad probably because you haven't experienced it before and you feel scared maybe?

What you can do is take your crystal to someone who understands a lot about them. Show them your crystal and they will have other ideas. You could also leave your crystal in a small box in your room or keep it in a small pouch, and leave it undisturbed for a long time, about a year because crystals are sensitive to seasons. Any energy that was inside it will or should fade away.

[EntwinedScylla]

You are feeling something from it and you find it unpleasant.

That's pretty much a statement of the obvious.:hahugh: It is negative energy on par with that of cancerous sickness. It's not just me that has experienced it, either. A wide range of individuals whom I have asked for input on it have described the same thing in various colorful language.


IMO I don't think there's anything wrong with your crystal. Crystals are rocks and they simply don't become ill and this applies to minerals also. The crystal absorbs and generates.

I -do- think there is something wrong with it. Something -very- wrong. I am stating that somewhere it absorbed, or is generating, a very unpleasant energy that is not congruent with other specimens of the same mineral. We do not have the correct terminology to describe a fundamental, energetic, wrongness with an inanimate object, so I use terms that apply to organic and living things such as "disease" and "illness".


By cleansing them it doesn't "wash" out dirty energies.

That disagrees with the majority of consensus information on crystals, including my own experiences, so we will have to agree to disagree on the inability to cleanse crystals.


You're finding it bad probably because you haven't experienced it before and you feel scared maybe?

Even though this is more like a statement than a question, I'll go ahead and answer it: Given that it is still in my home, and that I still pursue correcting the issue with the crystal I would not say that I am, in the least, frightened by it. Given that I can -describe- the energy in downright graphic detail suggests that I -have- felt energy like it before. Fear and revulsion are very far apart in my mind. I don't fear a very poorly maintained public restroom that has recently been occupied by someone with intestinal difficulties and bad timing... but it is, none-the-less, repellent.


What you can do is take your crystal to someone who understands a lot about them. Show them your crystal and they will have other ideas.

With all due respect, I am someone who knows a lot about them. I feel like either I'm not being clear, or that you didn't read the previous posts.

I have also taken the crystal to others, and a very wide range of them. I've taken it to people from different branches of Pagan and new-age practices, as well as to Christians. The consensus is that the energy is either "perverted", "diseased", "broken" or "demonic" which all seem to be the different words for the same vibe. I.e. their ideas have been the same.

I would not address it on an open forum, and attribute it to "woo woo", had I not previously gotten some external verification on my impressions. That's not how I work, unlike the vast majority of Pagandom. :weirdsmil:


Any energy that was inside it will or should fade away.

This statement, with others above, lead me to think that you may not have read the entire (brief) thread yet. I have done multiple, multiple, multiple things before. I've had this stone for probably four years (that's being conservative) by this point... I've had a LOT of time to test things out. By this point I've exhausted the basics, and am looking for ideas beyond that.

[LunarSoldier]

"perverted", "diseased", "broken" or "demonic"How many people said this and who/what are they?

I have read your post and the entire thread which is why I wanted to add my view. I've had experience of crystals and magic since I was 17 and I'm 35 now. There is a lot to learn still and my opinions on it will differ from your own maybe. How do you feel about my suggestion of placing your crystal in a small box/pouch and leaving it for a year (4 full seasons)?

Just wanted to add something. My understanding of crystals is actually going to be a lot different from those who believe it protects them from negative energies. I also think that crystals NEVER become evil or bad. Yes I understood your terminology. Here is an example of what crystals give out and explains what your crystal is doing:

http://www.globalspec.com/kistler/ref/tech_theory_text.htm

Sorry if I caused you some confusion. I wish I could offer you better solutions so that you become at peace with your crystal. Better still you could always donate it to charity and get a new crystal :)

[lightdragon]

How many people said this and who/what are they?


oh i would like to know also.




I have read your post and the entire thread which is why I wanted to add my view. I've had experience of crystals and magic since I was 17 and I'm 35 now. There is a lot to learn still and my opinions on it will differ from your own maybe. How do you feel about my suggestion of placing your crystal in a small box/pouch and leaving it for a year (4 full seasons)?


if you look at my first post i suggested basically the same thing well at least the same amount of time frame or even longer. And this i did myself so I know it works. the small box/pouch alone I would normally disagree with unless you placed it somewhere specific. Lunar Soldier , have you tested this theory???




Just wanted to add something. My understanding of crystals is actually going to be a lot different from those who believe it protects them from negative energies. I also think that crystals NEVER become evil or bad. Yes I understood your terminology. Here is an example of what crystals give out and explains what your crystal is doing:

http://www.globalspec.com/kistler/ref/tech_theory_text.htm
first thank you for posting this weblink. very interesting and i agree with it.
basically this states that crystals give off energy as well as being amplifiers .specific cuts give off different energies.
And this i usually agree with. but if it grows in a specific pattern that is not necessary normal like phantom or self healing quartzes then it projects those energies as well. Tiger's eye is another example(and yes that is a crystal. not a quartz crystal but a crystal none the less.) although amethyst ,morion ,citrine,rutilated quartz,etc. are still more examples of different quartzs. and due to other minerials entering it, it's effects become different.
so here we are discussing strawberry quartz.

now natural (not manmade) strawberry quartz has thousands of tiny needlike hematite structures in it which give it, it's reddish coloring. Now in other posts here, hematite can give a very negative effect on some people.http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=220391




Better still you could always donate it to charity and get a new crystal :)

i would respectfully disagee with this because you would be giving someone negative energy. BTW , EntwinedScylla how is your reactions to hematite???

[EntwinedScylla]

oh i would like to know also

Several shop-owners with whom I've had working relationships for some time, an Asatru hearth-leader who appears to have vanished into the mists sometime in April, a CUUPS circle facilitator, two psyvamps who specialize in energy work, a shaman-influenced witch who runs a store in TX, and a good friend of mine who is non-pagan, but who falls into a more new-agey category of Gnostic Christian. There've been others, because I do tend to randomly get impresions on it from others who visit my home (if the topic comes up). They run the range from pagan to chaote, to "that stuff is all BS". (the Athiest reaction tends to be "It's just a rock, and it's kinda ugly")


now natural (not manmade) strawberry quartz has thousands of tiny needlike hematite structures in it which give it, it's reddish coloring. (SNIP) BTW , EntwinedScylla how is your reactions to hematite???

I wondered if this might be an issue, as -real- hematite is something that I do not react well with. BUT... it does not have the same feeling associated with it. Also, hematite-bearing stones such as tiger iron, or Harlequin Quartz -don't- bother me in the slightest.

To actually give a timeline:
Approximately 2004-2005 I purchased the stone at a store in OK. because this particular stone was the only one I got the "Get me" vibe from.

I bring it home, cleanse it with a bundle of wormwood and white sage (my usual method) and place it to charge atop a cluster of Arkansas Quartz on matrix for seven days.

I gave the stone a once-over in terms of feel and had a "hmmm" moment, because it felt like some of the more poorly-handled stones I've gotten before. I put it away in a box for a while (probably a month or more).

I gave it another feel, and decided it might be a good idea to leave it in the box, with black kyanite and citrine for a while. Intermittantly I'd check on it, and found that the vibe only got worse.

After about a year of owning it (we'll say 2006), I put in a jar and burried it under a very big, gregarious oak tree for a full lunar cycle sometime in the spring. It seemed slightly better.

That summer I put it in a location that receives full sun for seven days. It felt slightly better.

At this point I thought "Okay, maybe this is an energy I'm not familiar enough with." and actually did meditation work with it the same way I do with other stones. Exploring what I "Get" from it. What I got was a stone that still felt like it had been unethically handled at the mining level. I returned it to the earth, sans-jar, for the time between Samhain and Yule of 2006. It felt better.

After that it sort of hung in stone limbo, because It never felt like it wanted to be around other stones, and the energy grew steadily worse from there.

2007 I took it with me to show someone I was meeting at a con on a trip (who has dug their own crystal since god-knows-when) who had such a violent "cold" reaction (i.e. I did not tell them why I wanted them to see this stone) that they nearly pitched it in the trash.

It stayed in a cupboard for about another year, undisturbed, though I do occasionally get into that cupboard for things.

In 2008 I moved down to the DFW area, and left it in that cupboard at my family home. It stayed there until early 2009 with only some disturbance o it in late winter and early spring.

After posting this thread and giving the "timeline" a second thought, I'm guessing this stone is not meant to be out of the soil, at least... not now. It's improved phases seem to be after it's been buried.

[lightdragon]

Several shop-owners with whom I've had working relationships for some time, an Asatru hearth-leader who appears to have vanished into the mists sometime in April, a CUUPS circle facilitator, two psyvamps who specialize in energy work, a shaman-influenced witch who runs a store in TX, and a good friend of mine who is non-pagan, but who falls into a more new-agey category of Gnostic Christian. There've been others, because I do tend to randomly get impresions on it from others who visit my home (if the topic comes up). They run the range from pagan to chaote, to "that stuff is all BS". (the Athiest reaction tends to be "It's just a rock, and it's kinda ugly")
and none of these people told you to just cleanse it?

I'm not calling you a liar or anything. I am just a little stunned at the lack of knowledge these people have.





I wondered if this might be an issue, as -real- hematite is something that I do not react well with. BUT... it does not have the same feeling associated with it. Also, hematite-bearing stones such as tiger iron, or Harlequin Quartz -don't- bother me in the slightest.

well if you didn't have a reaction to these stones you shouldn't have had a reaction to this one.



To actually give a timeline:
After about a year of owning it (we'll say 2006), I put in a jar and burried it under a very big, gregarious oak tree for a full lunar cycle sometime in the spring. It seemed slightly better.
I figured it would be a little better.


That summer I put it in a location that receives full sun for seven days. It felt slightly better.
reacts well to both sunlight and burried in the earth. doesn't have to be near a tree. but if you want to then that's up to you.



At this point I thought "Okay, maybe this is an energy I'm not familiar enough with." and actually did meditation work with it the same way I do with other stones. Exploring what I "Get" from it. What I got was a stone that still felt like it had been unethically handled at the mining level. I returned it to the earth, sans-jar, for the time between Samhain and Yule of 2006. It felt better.

good chance this is the problem. a lot of stones are mined unethically for the market. this causes stones to become unbalanced. this is my guess as to why this is causeing this. One problem new age shops, rock hound places and other stores which sell stones is to make sure the stone is the genuine deal. But checking the mines is another matter altogether.




After that it sort of hung in stone limbo, because It never felt like it wanted to be around other stones, and the energy grew steadily worse from there.

2007 I took it with me to show someone I was meeting at a con on a trip (who has dug their own crystal since god-knows-when) who had such a violent "cold" reaction (i.e. I did not tell them why I wanted them to see this stone) that they nearly pitched it in the trash.
and this person never asked any questions as to why this stone is like this???



After posting this thread and giving the "timeline" a second thought, I'm guessing this stone is not meant to be out of the soil, at least... not now. It's improved phases seem to be after it's been buried.
it wasn't fully cleansed. it was partially. all i can tell is burry it for a year and check on it. or keep it in the sunlight like by an open window.problem here is what to do in the winter. so burying it would be a better option.

keep doing it until it is cleansed. like i said in my other post , it could take two years to cleanse it.

[EntwinedScylla]

and none of these people told you to just cleanse it?

ON the contrary, all of them told me to cleanse it, and I followed the various instructions. However, most were repeats of the same things that did not work previously. I suppose I took it as an understood -given- that if someone received such an impression, that they would suggest a cleansing.


well if you didn't have a reaction to these stones you shouldn't have had a reaction to this one.

Which is why I don't think it's a hematite response, but rather something in the stone itself, but figured I would mention my reactions given that you inquired about them. I'll have to assume I was unclear on that one.


a lot of stones are mined unethically for the market. this causes stones to become unbalanced. this is my guess as to why this is causeing this.

Unfortunately a lot of people refuse to believe that a stone -can- be unbalanced, or produce a negative result through it's use or presence, making "beyond 101" (or even "beyond Maseter's Degree") help on this issue really hard to get at. Some of the best responses and most helpful viewpoints have been from nonpagan people on an MMOG I play, simply because they weren't biased by pagan literature on the topic.


and this person never asked any questions as to why this stone is like this???

They did. My response was "I'm not entirely sure, but I think it was mined badly", to which the person said "Nonsense, someone had to curse it. Stones are from the earth, they're all inherently perfect!"
My statement that "So does belladonna, but it's still poisonous"... did not go over well.


keep doing it until it is cleansed. like i said in my other post , it could take two years to cleanse it.

I don't think I will dig it up again if I do bury it. In it's own way it's tought me many, many, lessons. Most of them being about the kneejerk responses of other people, gothy-mc-gotherson "I love dark stuff" silliness, biased viewpoints based on religious training... etc.

Thank you for your input and viewpoints. If nothin' else this gave me a chance to really review the information I've had in a more organized way, and come to a new conclusion. :thumbsup:

[lightdragon]

ON the contrary, all of them told me to cleanse it, and I followed the various instructions. However, most were repeats of the same things that did not work previously. I suppose I took it as an understood -given- that if someone received such an impression, that they would suggest a cleansing.
they would have to say something otherwise they would have been asshats.




Which is why I don't think it's a hematite response, but rather something in the stone itself, but figured I would mention my reactions given that you inquired about them. I'll have to assume I was unclear on that one.
usually people with hematite issues, if it is combined with one r more minerial they usually don't have a problem with it. i think only person still had issues with it.



Unfortunately a lot of people refuse to believe that a stone -can- be unbalanced, or produce a negative result through it's use or presence, making "beyond 101" (or even "beyond Maseter's Degree") help on this issue really hard to get at. Some of the best responses and most helpful viewpoints have been from nonpagan people on an MMOG I play, simply because they weren't biased by pagan literature on the topic.
more new age BS. and good for those MMOG's. one of the major misconceptions is that people think that stones are beyond being unstable and can only be used for beneficial purposes. If they need to be cleansed then they are unstable.




They did. My response was "I'm not entirely sure, but I think it was mined badly", to which the person said "Nonsense, someone had to curse it. Stones are from the earth, they're all inherently perfect!"
My statement that "So does belladonna, but it's still poisonous"... did not go over well.
well it's possible that curses can be involved. but those are in rare circumstances. and one thing i learned from this is DO NOT ARGUE WITH them.If they think it's cursed and refuse to listen to any other explanation. Even stones that can be used to cause harm are generally "inherently perfect" if removed ethically. in a way bad mining is kinda like a curse, but i think that would be on how you look on it.

And BTW belladonna is poisonous but in limited doses by an expert it can be used for medicial purposes. and horses, donkeys ,goats,rabbits sheep and certain birds eat belladonna without any problems. usually people, dogs and cats have a problem with the plant.



I don't think I will dig it up again if I do bury it. In it's own way it's tought me many, many, lessons. Most of them being about the kneejerk responses of other people, gothy-mc-gotherson "I love dark stuff" silliness, biased viewpoints based on religious training... etc.


that's up to you.

[trueseeker]

Maybe you crystal has life in it,it's a prison.Who owned it before?Have you checked?There is possible for crystals to contain information or sometimes souls.But crystal can be also info libraries aka the library of crystals.Maybe there is a quest connected to it and a lesson to you might come out of it.I understand you had it for 4 years and exausted the basic,so my exotic views hope will help.I suggest a ritual to get in touch 1 to find out if your crystal is a prison 2 to attune yourself if it's a 'hard disk' with information with the messages and try to descipher and understand them 3 to be realistic about the consequesnces of the energy you feel as 'cancer' on the immediate enviroment.Now there would be many ways to do this,one I know would be using a piece of clean papyrus where you have drawn a horus eye and a purified symbol with the feather of ma'at for truth and justice or what you picture of all seeing eye and justice and write your statement of intent onto it and burn it in the light of a black candle,or a white candle,whichever is better attuned with you.You may also try to get a dream about what should you do with that stone,and how can the energy conflict be resolved.I hope this helps.

[EntwinedScylla]

I have wondered if the stone deva itself, having been pulled from the earth badly (or too soon) might feel trapped, or angered, at it's situation and be taking that out on it's surroundings.

Some stones, IME, have a life-force... some don't. And with some... there's a hazy middle that is very difficult to define. This stone feels like it has no force, but it may be that the force has not fully formed.

[lightdragon]

I have wondered if the stone deva itself, having been pulled from the earth badly (or too soon) might feel trapped, or angered, at it's situation and be taking that out on it's surroundings.
basically that is what it means by a stone unethically taken.



Some stones, IME, have a life-force... some don't. And with some... there's a hazy middle that is very difficult to define. This stone feels like it has no force, but it may be that the force has not fully formed.
All stones have a force of some sorts. some you can detect some you can not. my guess was it was not fully formed.

[LunarSoldier]

So much for so-called healing properties of a crystal. Now someone is finding them evil.
Whether it's a negative bad vibe or a positive healing vibe, it's all in your imaginations.

[EntwinedScylla]

basically that is what it means by a stone unethically taken.

I'm thinking I've been unclear or crossed wires somewhere. I've never been confused bout the definition of an unethical mining process. However, I don't expect an international industry to respect the sectarian beliefs of a few new religions and far less older ones. IME, it's very rare that a stone responds badly to the mining process (machinery), but more toward the intent of the miners.


All stones have a force of some sorts. some you can detect some you can not. my guess was it was not fully formed.

All of them possess some form of energy, I agree. But I do not equate that with "life force", except for very, very, rarely. I believe and have experienced that the majority of stones share the same "ley grid" energy as the locale from which they were mined. Occasionally they develop something more. These are usually from locales known to have land wights/spirits with individual personalities.

But, then again... I come from a very hedgey sort of viewpoint: If it wants to be thought of as more than a rock, it will -tell- me it's more than a rock. Otherwise, who am I to impose my human-centric, anthropomorphic, viewpoint onto everything around me? It may not want to be seen, known, found, talked to, or explored by anyone. It may just want to keep on dreaming.

[Neville]

If you don't get along with a Crystal...The Crystal is not for you... Part happily.:)

[lightdragon]

So much for so-called healing properties of a crystal. Now someone is finding them evil.
Whether it's a negative bad vibe or a positive healing vibe, it's all in your imaginations. I would say it's in the imagination that a stone is evil or good. but stones can give off disrupting energies. I only found one stone like that myself. And i have literally hundreds of stones. and went to various places where stones are .



I'm thinking I've been unclear or crossed wires somewhere. I've never been confused bout the definition of an unethical mining process. However, I don't expect an international industry to respect the sectarian beliefs of a few new religions and far less older ones. IME, it's very rare that a stone responds badly to the mining process (machinery), but more toward the intent of the miners.
there have been cases.




All of them possess some form of energy, I agree. But I do not equate that with "life force", except for very, very, rarely. I believe and have experienced that the majority of stones share the same "ley grid" energy as the locale from which they were mined. Occasionally they develop something more. These are usually from locales known to have land wights/spirits with individual personalities.
it's an energy force more than a life force.there's a possiblity that it could have a life force. I should have been more clear. I also agree with the "ley grid" aspect .

[randomleigh]

Approximately 2004-2005 I purchased the stone at a store in OK. because this particular stone was the only one I got the "Get me" vibe from.

Just curious, what shop? I notice your thing says you are from Little Axe, OK.

I had a shop during that time and knew most of the other owners. Some of the owners at the time definitely put little spells on their products, glamours and such, to make them appealing. Of course employees do this as well without the owners' knowledge or permission, so it wouldn't necessarily be the owner. Also certain merchants will do such a thing and I know who was supplying the strawberry quartz for several of the stores, so I can bet part of your problem has to do with a glamour gone bad, not the crystal itself. I won't point fingers on this forum but you can PM me if you want to share this info.

I don't believe I carried strawberry quartz, but I did have some tangerine quartz around that time. All the strawberry quartz I saw was manmade and I have no interest in synthetic stones than goldstone. As a lapidary that type of thing just isn't interesting to me.

However, if you *did* get it from my shop, I would really be interested in checking it out. I do not believe in putting magic selling spells on inventory, of tricking the customer in any way at all. I often had to strip attachments off stuff that came in; the suppliers sometimes try to do attraction spells thinking it will help the shop owner. People liked my shop for its extreme neutrality and feeling of safety. The only definition I know for "evil" is the forceful imposition of one's will against another person who has not given permission, and this type of manipulation falls under that heading. If it traces back to my shop I'll know exactly where I got it and have some firm words with the seller! Although I didn't carry it, I would probably have seen the quartz as the sellers went round to all the stores and I passed up a lot of things.

I'm in OKC. It would be interesting to meet up with you and your rock. If it's not a manipulative spell, I suspect I can figure out what's going on. The energies I use on an every day basis are fairly unfamiliar in this region, as I come from a long line of ethnic witchyness that gives me some insight into a very non-wiccan/non-european tradition. Those who are not used to these kinds of energies will call them illness or evil, because the "vibes" they get from these energies are unfamiliar to people of standard American flavored heritage and they can only identify it as somehow "wrong", whereas my upbringing and experience shows them as balancing or otherwise useful.

Like, for example, digitalis -- if you ingest it straight from the garden it will kill you, but in certain measured and standardized doses it is a life-saving cardiovascular drug. Many of the earth's products have positive and negative qualities all in one, it's how you channel it that matters.

So, I'm not saying I'm an expert or mo' betta or anything, but you might have something on your hands that you *need* in your magical cabinet, to be used in rare occasions. I may be able to help identify it because I don't have the same filter to say evil, spooky, creepy, or diseased.

Clearly you perceive this energy as negative. Negative is not necessarily bad. Badness is an artificial label, a human judgment on something. Negative is the opposite of positive but it has to exist otherwise there is no positive, no balance, and most importantly, no justice in the world. Negative is a natural and important state of being and is not always "bad".

If you have a weird or creepy experience with your rock it's probably because this is the time for you to stretch and learn about those things, so perhaps it is not meant for you to try to clear it, but to explore these sensations and see how you might best use it. So many people are afraid to explore the unknown, to try to clear or pray away unfamiliar sensations rather than poking around the edges and perhaps lifting up a corner to see what's in there. It's not going to hurt you and you might learn something very important from the experience.

Energy is energy; it is intent that creates malevolence. All energy can be harnessed for any intent. The believer is the instrument that takes that raw energy and translates it into intent and puts it out into the universe. If you are holding something so powerful that it seems to pulsate and throb, why oh why would you want to clear it?!? Suck it out and use it for something that needs the intensity.

Your quartz cannot go bad. It cannot become a hoodlum or a murderer. It's a rock and subject to natural influences. However, you are a human and you are subject to human biases and each human has her own agendas. When something comes across the path of one with predisposed notions and interferes with one's agenda, it usually serves as a wakeup call. The more stuck in one's ways, the "worse" it will seem.

Learn from your quartz, don't try to change it. Approach it with an inquisitive mind and allow it to tell you what's going on. If you just can't get to the point where you can hold it to meditate on it, let someone who is not biased against such experiences give it a whirl. Otherwise, throw it away somewhere it won't do any harm. But I would think you are missing out on a huge opportunity to learn and grow, and to increase your own powers by increasing your experience with a new kind of energy.

[randomleigh]

On a completely other thought tangent:

might be slightly radioactive. Take it to one of the universities that has a nuclear lab and see if someone will check it for ya. I have some celestite that feels very zingy and sho nuff, it's a bit radioactive.

Call the dept of geology and ask to talk to someone who can identify a rock you found in the corner of a rock shop. The secretary probably won't be the right person. When you talk to whoever, probably a grad student or TA, you might mention that for some reason you have this weird idea that it's radioactive and can they put it under the geiger counter for you.

Actually do check it with a UV or black light -- you might be surprised...

[randomleigh]

Here is an example of what crystals give out and explains what your crystal is doing:

http://www.globalspec.com/kistler/ref/tech_theory_text.htm


Here's something even more interesting that explains a bit about the technical side of piezoelectronics.

http://www.rmcybernetics.com/science/high_voltage/mineral_elec.htm

It would be very interesting to get some crystal guru together with James Randi and an oscilloscope. Someone may win his million dollars yet...

[lightdragon]

thank you for your input randomleigh

[EntwinedScylla]

To put it as gently as possible, I am not interested in hearing any mudslinging about the local shops and venders. These are, in most cases, people I have known for more than a decade, and I am appalled to see that this kind of attempt at gossip has been made. Furthermore, no offense... but I am very much NOT interested in meeting someone from an internet forum offline. I hope you can apreciate why.

The stone has been buried, and it will stay there until it decides otherwise. It is not "misunderstood", it's hurting. And through the helpful posts made by other members I have come to understand that it is not supposed to be out of the earth right now. It may NEVER be ready for that.
I am glad to have been the person to chose it, because someone else may've been tempted to give into repeated "gimme gimme" requests from, frankly, very eerily over-eager persons to get a hold of this stone. People that would've ignored it's pain and kept it like a fish out of water (suffering and suffocating) just for a crack at it's unique energy.

I'd like to thank the people who did offer interesting viewpoints and information without resorting to mudslinging or grabbyhands. I'm sure the rock thanks you too.

I think that it'd be a good time to close this thread now, mods, if y'all do such things here. I'd really rather not see this thread turn in the direction it looks to be going. :)