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*~SilenT~*
December 4th, 2002, 08:10 PM
check this site out.... www.houseofnames.com (http://search.swyrich.com/surnamesearch.asp?Licensee=54323&r=&t=650&sId=5E788946-4137-4BCA-884B-F3B695D2A085)



this was mine

My last name is Gabel

Radocs
December 4th, 2002, 08:20 PM
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/radocs/scotland.jpg

Origin: Scottish

Coat of Arms: On a black shield a gold wolf and three gold estoiles.

Crest: A gold wolf.

Motto: Semper vigilans

Amethyst Rose
December 4th, 2002, 08:24 PM
I'm not sure if this site actually gives you your real coat of arms, or just an example of what a print looks like.... doing more research to find a really good site that I found ages ago......

Flaire-FireStar
December 4th, 2002, 08:25 PM
Origin: Scottish

Coat of Arms: An ermine shield with three silver crescents on a black fess.

Crest: A rider with a broken spear.

Motto: Vive ut vivas


:huh: Interesting.... Though, can anyone translate "Vive ut vivas"? It's making me curious as to what my motto is.... :)

Amethyst Rose
December 4th, 2002, 08:28 PM
Yeah, me and Raddocs have the same coat of arms picture, but different descriptions..... so the picture isn't really your coat of arms.

Here's what mine says, anyway....

Origin: Scottish

Coat of Arms: Quarterly, 1st Gold with a red lion; 2nd A right hand holding a cross; 3rd A galley; 4th A Salmon.

Crest: A Castle.

Motto: Fortis Et Fidus

Motto Translated: Brave and trusty

Amethyst Rose
December 4th, 2002, 08:38 PM
For those of you with scottish names who are interested in your history, and tartans and such, this is a great site....

http://www.electricscotland.com/

ankhesen Sekhmet
December 4th, 2002, 08:40 PM
Flaire, et al - Family Mottos from Coats of Arms (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jkmacmul/namemeanings-coatofarms/mottoes.html)

Flaire-FireStar
December 4th, 2002, 08:58 PM
Excellent. :thumbsup:

AmbivalentMirage
December 4th, 2002, 10:27 PM
They don't have very many of mine. =/ Only the British ones.

Danustouch
December 4th, 2002, 10:41 PM
Here's Mine (which actually, they made a mistake in. My family crest is actually a stag, under a HAZEL tree, (Hislop is a derivitive of the name Heaslip, which translates to dweller in a hazel valley) under a full moon :) They got the motto right though. As for the little bit of background on your family tree..I'm not related to any of the people they mention as far as I know :)

Origin: English

Coat of Arms: A silver shield with a stag standing under a holly tree.

Crest: A Scholar.

Motto: His parva cres****

Danustouch
December 4th, 2002, 10:42 PM
And I looked at the Motto's page..couldn't find my motto interpreted. If anyone knows latin, and can translate that..please do so ;)

Amethyst Rose
December 4th, 2002, 10:54 PM
My motto was translated on the page the original link was to.... right under the latin motto..... it's odd if yours isn't that way as well.....

Danustouch
December 4th, 2002, 11:59 PM
Nope..it wasn't :)

Danustouch
December 5th, 2002, 12:17 AM
Found a Latin Dictionary online.

I gather it means "The Small Will Increase" or Something of that ilk...

h.is PRON 3 1 DAT P X
h.is PRON 3 1 ABL P X
hic, haec, hoc PRON
this; these (pl.); also DEMONST;

parv.a ADJ 1 1 NOM S F POS
parv.a ADJ 1 1 ABL S F POS
parv.a ADJ 1 1 NOM P N POS
parv.a ADJ 1 1 ACC P N POS
parvus, parva -um, minor -or -us, minimus -a -um ADJ
small, little, cheap; unimportant; (SUPER) smallest, least;
*
cresc.unt V 3 1 PRES ACTIVE IND 3 P
cresco, crescere, crevi, cretus V INTRANS
come forth/to be; arise/spring (from); be born; become visible/great; grow (up
thrive, increase (size/number/honor), multiply; ascend; attain, be promoted;


Anyone else want to hazard a guess?

Saphra
December 5th, 2002, 01:35 AM
Here's mine.....

Pierce
Origin: English

Coat of Arms: Black with a silver chevron between two gold unicorns heads.

Crest: A red wyvern.

Motto: Sub cruce salus.
Translation: Salvation under the cross.


Isn't Chevron an type of oil for your car?????

ankhesen Sekhmet
December 5th, 2002, 02:00 AM
Coat of Arms: Silver with six red allerians.
Crest: A double headed red allerian.
Motto: Nec temere nec timide (I neither fear nor despise)

What's an allerian?


(Allerion - (Al-ler'-i-on) An eagle without a beak or feet, and with wings expanded, their points turned downward. (Denoting imperialists vanquished and disarmed.)

AmbivalentMirage
December 5th, 2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Danustouch
Found a Latin Dictionary online.

I gather it means "The Small Will Increase" or Something of that ilk...

h.is PRON 3 1 DAT P X
h.is PRON 3 1 ABL P X
hic, haec, hoc PRON
this; these (pl.); also DEMONST;

parv.a ADJ 1 1 NOM S F POS
parv.a ADJ 1 1 ABL S F POS
parv.a ADJ 1 1 NOM P N POS
parv.a ADJ 1 1 ACC P N POS
parvus, parva -um, minor -or -us, minimus -a -um ADJ
small, little, cheap; unimportant; (SUPER) smallest, least;
*
cresc.unt V 3 1 PRES ACTIVE IND 3 P
cresco, crescere, crevi, cretus V INTRANS
come forth/to be; arise/spring (from); be born; become visible/great; grow (up
thrive, increase (size/number/honor), multiply; ascend; attain, be promoted;


Anyone else want to hazard a guess?

I took a small journey through a very old Latin book I happen to have, and I THINK it means something along the lines of "small beginnings". I could be wrong, though. I will check with a friend of mine later, he's amazing with Latin. ^.^

Danustouch
December 5th, 2002, 10:56 AM
Thank you Ambi :) I'd appreciate that double check. But that does make a fitting motto for my family :)

We are of Scots-Irish Descent, As far as I can tell...we were probably first from Ireland, traveled to Scotland, remained there for a LONG time, and then, when the Cromwellian Plantation era came about, went back over to Ireland. Apparently, the Heaslip clan in Scotland was actually a sept of another larger clan (possibly stewart, all I know is that we have a tartan which is a variance of the Stewart Hunting Tartan). However, People have traced the Heaslip Line and found they were Highlanders (since many of the Highland clans came from earlier Irish Migrations, that is why I believe we were originally Irish). So...we were not a well known clan at all...most likely never even acheived individual clan status, but were more like an offshoot of a larger clan. However, Through various alliances, the Heaslip Clan grew prosperous. We're mentioned in several History References (under name variances such as Heaslip/Hyslop/Hislop/Heslop) as being high ranking in military groups, and I also know that we had many doctors in our branches...and that Alexander Hislop (author of the infamous anti-papist/paganism book "The Two Babylons) is also a descendent of the same line. From there on....we've been able to trace Hislop/Heaslips/Hyslops all over the world. Australia, New Zealand, the Islands, Africa, America, Canada, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales.

From the humble origins of this tiny offshoot of a larger clan, Hislop, Heaslip, and all other variances have certainly prospered.

So..it would seem that the motto is quite fitting :)

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Another interesting thing...One of my OTHER family Surnames (My Grandfathers' Mother's line, is Torrens (Torrence, Torrance, Torrins are also variances. Oral Legend, However unverifiable it may be (and indeed, much research has been done to try to verify the legend, to no avail..it is myth, but..a good one none the less) has it that an Early Torrens Ancestor, Helped Save Robert The Bruce. This being the case, Our Family Crest, and it's Motto, proudly proclaims this myth (although, the crest was supposedly created in the 19th century ...sigh)

http://paos.colorado.edu/~torrence/crest/crest.html

Ryhla
December 5th, 2002, 12:11 PM
Several Months ago, I looked up my family name and got my family crest from here...

http://www.irishclans.com/

If you're irish, you can search your family name. It gives a brief history and a crest. Worth checking out. :) Here is the family crest on my dad's side I got from the site.

Flaire-FireStar
December 5th, 2002, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Saphra

Isn't Chevron an type of oil for your car?????

:lol:

True, true.... It's also:


from Dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com)

1. A badge or insignia consisting of stripes meeting at an angle, worn on the sleeve of a military or police uniform to indicate rank, merit, or length of service.
2. Heraldry. A device shaped like an inverted V.
3. A V-shaped pattern, especially a kind of fret used in architecture.


Tada!! :)

FlamedLilly
December 5th, 2002, 09:21 PM
I can't get my computer to load mine, but my last name is NOrris, and in my coat of arms is a chevron under 3 Ravens, now I've always been drawn to Ravens. . . Coincidence?

Epona44
December 6th, 2002, 12:57 AM
I am trying this. That wasn't as hard as I thought. This is the Laughton Coat of Arms, and that's my father's name. Always did like dragons.

Amethyst Rose
December 7th, 2002, 02:14 PM
Here's my family's crest.... last name's McLachlan (there's tons of different ways to spell it, though).

Élistariel
December 12th, 2002, 04:01 AM
My last name is Ferguson, though technically, aside from being American, we don't have any coat of arms laws, I can still 'claim' it. My grandfather on my father's side was adopted, so I too have the adopted name.

Élistariel
December 12th, 2002, 04:08 AM
I think I'll post my crest too
dulcius ex asperis - sweeter after difficulties

Danustouch
December 12th, 2002, 10:24 AM
Maren...

Ferguson is a VERY large surname in Scotland and Ireland. Actually, there is a terriffic family Geneologist for the Ferguson Clan. His name is Colin Ferguson. A quick search around Geneology message boards will turn up his name, and his website. The research that he has done is absolutely amazing. Actually, my line and the Ferguson name ties in somewhere back in history. Colin has an entire section of his site, devoted to my surname, and it's variants :)

Élistariel
December 12th, 2002, 05:31 PM
thanks Danustouch, I'll look him up.

Skywise
December 13th, 2002, 01:59 AM
McManus
Origin: Irish

Coat of Arms: Green with a gold griffin below three silver crescents.

Crest: A hand holding a cross.

First found in in county of Roscommon where they had been seated from ancient times.


I actually found this out a little while back and got to see a picture of my Coat and Crest.

I have no motto, but I was told what they various things on the coat/crest meant. The Green background signified Loalty and the gold griffin was power from the throne. The 3 silver crescents sybolized that my ancestor went on many military quests (3 meaning he was a commander) and they are upturned meaning they were successful. The silver signifies that they were mostly peaceful.

The crest is a right arm holding a red cross and that signifies strong family loyalty to the church. That's really all I remember.