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Raxeph
October 20th, 2009, 12:55 AM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/877717/do-not-hug-primary-school-sweethearts-told


A South Australian primary school has banned Year 6 and Year 7 students who are "boyfriends or girlfriends" from hugging.

Largs Bay Primary School has outlawed the displays of affection over fears it may set a bad example to other students, Adelaide's The Advertiser reports.
"Hugging is not banned (between friends) ... but we do discourage displays of affection in the schoolyard among students in Years 6 and 7 who have a boyfriend or girlfriend at the school," principal Julie Gail told the newspaper.
"We want our older students to set a strong example for younger students at the school."

But some parents are outraged by the move, saying the so-called hugging ban applies to all “mixed sex displays of affection”.
Parents said the 11 and 12 year-old students were told of the ban after a recent hugging “outbreak” when friends saw one another for the first time after school holidays.

"I don't want my child to go to a school in which displays of affection lead to punishment," a mother told The Advertiser.
"My daughter has boys who are friends and she is being told she will be punished if she hugs them, I think that is setting a very bad example for younger and older children."

The state's education department would not tell the newspaper if the ban was in place at any other schools and refused to endorse the measure.
What an absolute load of rubbish. :mad: They'll have fun policing that, that is if there's not enough of an uproar to get it overturned.

Nox_Mortus
October 20th, 2009, 01:01 AM
I don't really see the big deal? This is really common here in the U.S. and it's very rarely enforced.

orangeconey
October 20th, 2009, 01:07 AM
"Mixed sex displays of affection", heh. That could lead to some interesting questions...

meowmeow
October 20th, 2009, 01:20 AM
Way to alienate kids from intimacy.. not like they won't get plenty of that as they get older..

Even if I kiss my boyfriend on the cheek in public we hear hell about it, I'm shocked they let us hold hands. Maybe if people broke up violence, instead of love, this world might be better?

Shawn Blackwolf
October 20th, 2009, 01:57 AM
:smileroll..."Hug" The Administration...:smileroll

Philosophia
October 20th, 2009, 03:12 AM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/877717/do-not-hug-primary-school-sweethearts-told

What an absolute load of rubbish. :mad: They'll have fun policing that, that is if there's not enough of an uproar to get it overturned.

Doubtful. It's not a "new rule" nor is it something that would probably be enforced unless it disrupts their schooling.

brymble
October 20th, 2009, 08:02 AM
I don't really see the big deal? This is really common here in the U.S. and it's very rarely enforced.


For primary school students??? Since when is a no-hugging rule for first graders common?

Or do you really believe that elementary schools have a serious disruptive problem with 6-year-olds making out in the halls?

Bettie
October 20th, 2009, 08:12 AM
For primary school students??? Since when is a no-hugging rule for first graders common?

Or do you really believe that elementary schools have a serious disruptive problem with 6-year-olds making out in the halls?


It's not the 6-year olds that are the problem, apparently it's the 12 year olds, who are also in primary school. They're the ones making out in the halls...

watersprite
October 20th, 2009, 08:18 AM
OI!
What crap! This is when the sex ed needs to start in public school settings.

Shawn Blackwolf
October 20th, 2009, 08:57 AM
They have been doing that , since I was that age ,
in school , at the least...45 years...:uhhuhuh:


It's not the 6-year olds that are the problem, apparently it's the 12 year olds, who are also in primary school. They're the ones making out in the halls...

Terra Mater
October 20th, 2009, 10:32 AM
Its not just hugging, any physical contact between students is grounds for disciplinary action. In most schools these rules are seldom enforced unless a kid is a "problem toucher".

While it might seem extreme to some, many of the problems that develop into sexual harassers and a wide variety of paraphilias start in kids as young as 4. Without contact rules, the schools have no way to intercede and the behavior is left literally unchecked until it is too late to do anything about it. Even with contact rules, the school can only request the parents get treatment for their children after a certain level of harassment or a certain number of repeat occurances.

Not only is hugging a suspendable offense, so is chasing another student, playing tag, contact sports, even hide and seek (encourages predatory behavior and victim mentality if you can believe it) can all get your child tossed out of school for a day or five here in the US.

brymble
October 20th, 2009, 10:39 AM
I know the above post was meant to make the rule seem more reasonable, but to me it now looks even more stupid and paranoid than ever.

Terra Mater
October 20th, 2009, 11:02 AM
I know the above post was meant to make the rule seem more reasonable, but to me it now looks even more stupid and paranoid than ever.

Actually, the rule is stupid and paranoid until the rule is the only thing you have on hand for getting a real problem kid out of the classroom and into a program to get them much needed help. Then you thank the stars for that rule.

One of my son's classmates was a "toucher" whose parents never realized that his endless need to touch people was his way of confirming that they were real. After the required number of suspensions, the school staff then were able to refer the parents to a program that evaluated their son and refused to allow him to return to school until he had been checked. They found out that he was, at the ripe old age of 6, having auditory and visual hallucinations that his parents had chalked up to having an imaginary friend.

Shawn Blackwolf
October 20th, 2009, 12:30 PM
I thank all my Spirit Helpers , that I went
to school before all the craziness...

Hell , we even played spin the bottle , at
a 6th grade classroom Christmas party...

Let alone all the other things , seen as
everyday , normal behaviour...

Funny...you would think it got better
after the 60's , and 70's...

But today , it is worse than the 50's
at their worst...

Our country , the U.S. , is now , so
huging uptight...

It has an eternal mental wedgie , about
these things...:uhhuhuh:



Not only is hugging a suspendable offense, so is chasing another student, playing tag, contact sports, even hide and seek (encourages predatory behavior and victim mentality if you can believe it) can all get your child tossed out of school for a day or five here in the US.

Hondros
October 20th, 2009, 12:59 PM
This is absolute rubbish.
I find that rule stupid, and that's just another way the Industrial Machine finds ways to destroy your sense of originality and uniqueness.

Terra Mater
October 20th, 2009, 01:10 PM
This is absolute rubbish.
I find that rule stupid, and that's just another way the Industrial Machine finds ways to destroy your sense of originality and uniqueness.

There is nothing original or unique about touching people. Everybody does it.

Nor is a public school about learning to be original or unique. Its about taking all those individuals and teaching them how to conform in case they need to at some point in life.

Human
October 21st, 2009, 12:55 PM
How utterly silly and unnecessary.

Where is the love? :smileroll

brymble
October 21st, 2009, 01:11 PM
Actually, the rule is stupid and paranoid until the rule is the only thing you have on hand for getting a real problem kid out of the classroom and into a program to get them much needed help. Then you thank the stars for that rule.


So the ordinary and perfectly normal human need for touch and affection should be banned because of the rare weird problem kid?

I knew kids in school who used to use bathroom breaks to disrupt class, or who would spit water from the drinking fountain at people, or who would cut class by going to the lunch room or library.

I think then, following your obviously insightful line of logic, that we should ban bathrooms, drinking fountains, school libraries and lunch rooms for all students. Because obviously a few people have problems taking "that kind of behavior" (you know, peeing, drinking, reading and eating) to an unacceptable extreme, and we have to protect ourselves. Clearly it would be better to ban common behaviors and everyday actions rather than deal directly with the rare trouble-makers, because you know, we're all such victims.

Terra Mater
October 21st, 2009, 04:46 PM
So the ordinary and perfectly normal human need for touch and affection should be banned because of the rare weird problem kid?

I knew kids in school who used to use bathroom breaks to disrupt class, or who would spit water from the drinking fountain at people, or who would cut class by going to the lunch room or library.

I think then, following your obviously insightful line of logic, that we should ban bathrooms, drinking fountains, school libraries and lunch rooms for all students. Because obviously a few people have problems taking "that kind of behavior" (you know, peeing, drinking, reading and eating) to an unacceptable extreme, and we have to protect ourselves. Clearly it would be better to ban common behaviors and everyday actions rather than deal directly with the rare trouble-makers, because you know, we're all such victims....

I stated from the beginning that the rule is stupid and paranoid unless you need it. This does not logically lead to your suggested conclusion nor is the inference you made even logical.

Just because I defended the concept for one person I knew, or for the teacher that feels the need to use such a rule to maintain order, does not mean I agree with it. It only means I can see the other side of the coin.

Personally, I could care less what happens in elementary schools anymore. All of my kids are high school students or older. The grandkids will be elementary school students in a few years, but the grandkids schooling experience is their parents issue not mine.

Don't like the rules of the school, keep your little darlings home and educate them yourself. Bitch to the school about their rules. But there is no logic on trying to convince me something is stupid and paranoid when I already said it was stupid and paranoid. Waste of time and highly illogical.:thumbsup:

Hondros
October 21st, 2009, 07:59 PM
Thinking of it now, I can see why they need this rule...
However, I do agree that this is not a completely necisariry(Spelling, I never remember it) rule.

(Please don't flame me for not knowing how to spell that word. I honestly am trying to learn how to spell it, and it takes a lot of time to check it on google, especially with my slow connection... Come to think of it, I could have just gone and done it in the time of writing this... XD Oh well)