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November 14th, 2009, 05:26 PM
How can I actually 'see' my energy?
When I don't sleep for 3-4 days I am able to see it.

But how am I able to do this without subjecting myself to this torture?

Lunacie
November 14th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Some people are very visual and find it easier to see energy, such as auras. Some people find it easier to feel energy, and that's me. So I don't work very hard at seeing the energy and am always rather surprised when it does happen.

You could do a Google and look for "auras", there are generally suggestions for practice in seeing them. Or look for "third eye" exercises.

Or simply sit down when you won't be disturbed and make yourself an energy ball. Hold it lightly in your hands or see if you can get it float about a foot in front of you. Now using your thought control, will the energy to become more dense - maybe a particular color as well. Try another color. Try making it into different shapes as well as different colors. Try making it bigger, then smaller. Try making it glow and then dim. Then make it wispy and transparent. Just keep working with the energy until you can see it and make it do different things.

Try doing those kinds of exercises at least a couple of times a week. This is a muscle that hasn't been getting any exercise, so don't overwork it, but without exercise it will never get any stronger, eh?

MonSno_LeeDra
November 14th, 2009, 05:56 PM
;4089484']How can I actually 'see' my energy?
When I don't sleep for 3-4 days I am able to see it.

But how am I able to do this without subjecting myself to this torture?

When one experiences sleep deprivation one see's anything they want. The mind looses a great deal of control and the subject is prone to seeing things that are not there or items created by the mind. I suspect your "Energy" is a creation of the deprived mind and created because you think you shall see it. Much akin to the mirage seen in the desert.

That is why it is one form of interugation that is used. It is or was also the most common form of obtaining a confession for witchcraft in parts of Midevil Europe.

Sequoia
November 14th, 2009, 06:16 PM
;4089484']How can I actually 'see' my energy?
When I don't sleep for 3-4 days I am able to see it.

But how am I able to do this without subjecting myself to this torture?

You aren't actually seeing your energy. When you deprive yourself of sleep for that long, you are hallucinating.

Most people do not "see" energy as a physical manifestation. Some people learn to "sense" energy, and lay a kind of "radar" over their physical vision. But the vast, vast majority (I would say "all", but lord knows someone would come on here telling me I was wrong) of people don't see energy that way.

Spica
November 14th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Yikes, 3 days without sleeping? You could use that and try to have conscious OBE's,
since they work out well when one is tired!

Here is one good link on how to see Auras:
http://www.esolibris.com/articles/auras_chakras/how_see_aura.php

Caitlin.ann
November 14th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Yup I was going to give a smart ass response but instead I'll just say that I agree with the others, you're hallucinating.

Xander67
November 14th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Get some sleep man!
:wave:

Sequoia
November 14th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Yikes, 3 days without sleeping? You could use that and try to have conscious OBE's,
since they work out well when one is tired![/URL]

The problem with attempting energy work when one is exhausted is that (among other things) you can't tell what is real and what is not real / imagined / hallucinated. Especially after three days of not-sleeping.

Get some good sleep, THEN try those things. Not necessarily a bad thing to do it at bedtime, but not when you're absolutely exhausted.

Caitlin.ann
November 14th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Someone is going to have a shitload of vivid dreams now..so much lack of sleep will send you into a lot of stage 4 sleep.

Lunacie
November 14th, 2009, 07:46 PM
The problem with attempting energy work when one is exhausted is that (among other things) you can't tell what is real and what is not real / imagined / hallucinated. Especially after three days of not-sleeping.

Get some good sleep, THEN try those things. Not necessarily a bad thing to do it at bedtime, but not when you're absolutely exhausted.

Sounds very sensible. I can't even stay awake 24 hours straight, much less three whole days. I can't even imagine the state my brain would be in.

MonSno_LeeDra
November 14th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Sequoia wrote: The problem with attempting energy work when one is exhausted is that (among other things) you can't tell what is real and what is not real / imagined / hallucinated. Especially after three days of not-sleeping.


It really does depend though. On a shamanic type pathway sensory deprivation is one means used to introduce one into journey. Of course we also realize that things are not real and have to look at it in different lights.

It is used at times as fasting before vision quest, as sensory deprivation to launch one into vision (I've heard of being totally wrapped up in a buffalo blanket as one means), A sweat lodge may at times use a form of deprivation or overload.

But then again some of the places we end up are anything but normal.



Get some good sleep, THEN try those things. Not necessarily a bad thing to do it at bedtime, but not when you're absolutely exhausted.


A good time especially if it involves preparing the body to OBE or prepare for dream time journies.

Personally, I would not do more than a day without sleep as it clouds the judgement and ability to respond quickly and controlled.

Spica
November 14th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Sequoia: It is easier to leave the body when one is exhausted because the conscious mind is not in 100% control. This is why beginners are sometimes adviced to try it when they are very tired, but whether or not it is a good idea is none of my business to decide. It all depends on the person how it works out for them.

In many traditions one goes in to a trance-state thanks to sleep deprivation and whether or not it's all an hallucination, like perhaps life as a whole, is debatable.

Xander67
November 14th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Sequoia: It is easier to leave the body when one is exhausted because the conscious mind is not in 100% control. This is why beginners are sometimes adviced to try it when they are very tired, but whether or not it is a good idea is none of my business to decide. It all depends on the person how it works out for them.

In many traditions one goes in to a trance-state thanks to sleep deprivation and whether or not it's all an hallucination, like perhaps life as a whole, is debatable.

Also make sure you have a journal handy .

MonSno_LeeDra
November 14th, 2009, 08:54 PM
It is easier to leave the body when one is exhausted because the conscious mind is not in 100% control.

Depends for it is equally as easy to do when one is in that between state of sleep and deep sleep. It is also equaly possible to do in the awakening time where one is awake but not totally awake.

Being exhausted one never reallys knows whether they eperated or it is simply more mental ghosts.

This is why beginners are sometimes adviced to try it when they are very tired, but whether or not it is a good idea is none of my business to decide. It all depends on the person how it works out for them.

Curious in my 50 years other than new age books i've never seen anyone reccomend sleep deprivation as a route for the novice. Could you perhaps say where you heard that?

In many traditions one goes in to a trance-state thanks to sleep deprivation and whether or not it's all an hallucination, like perhaps life as a whole, is debatable

Actually most I am aware of use fasting as the means or controlled deprivation such as a smoke lodge, a sweat, of physical activity. Many times coupled with cleansing of the body through water or juices.

If not that then many use color regression as a means to lower or reduce the limitations that impeede it.

Again could you please tell where that came from?

Spica
November 15th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Depends for it is equally as easy to do when one is in that between state of sleep and deep sleep. It is also equaly possible to do in the awakening time where one is awake but not totally awake.

Being exhausted one never reallys knows whether they eperated or it is simply more mental ghosts.

Curious in my 50 years other than new age books i've never seen anyone reccomend sleep deprivation as a route for the novice. Could you perhaps say where you heard that?

Actually most I am aware of use fasting as the means or controlled deprivation such as a smoke lodge, a sweat, of physical activity. Many times coupled with cleansing of the body through water or juices.

If not that then many use color regression as a means to lower or reduce the limitations that impeede it.

Again could you please tell where that came from?

Robert Bruce, Robert Monroe, Richard Webster, Guiseppe Costa, and anybody else who has had spontaneous OBE's will know that having OBE's is easier when one is exhausted/tired. Why do you think it has been adviced to use binaural beats when one is trying to have an OBE? It helps them raise their consciousness, but also makes them drowsy, which then eases the exit. How one is affected by the beats depends on the person, like everything else on this planet.

When I first tried out binaural, I got so tired that I got physically sick. (Basically the same thing after staying awake for 2 days for me) But after going to bed, I had a spontaneous OBE thanks to the exhaustation. Once again, I do not say this works for everyone, but if the starter of this thread is going to be awake for 3 days, perhaps on purpose, then she should use that exhaustion productively if she feels that way.

I also do not tend to follow New Age books when I do things, I follow myself. Besides, most of the time you find things like, "don't do this, don't do that" in those books, when the whole point is for you to try it out and learn from experience what works for YOU and what doesn't.

♀♥Lady Urania♥♀
November 23rd, 2009, 11:56 PM
Funny, ive typically seen it advised obes are easier when you take a short nap in the day, and from experience have found in my case this to be true. It could be because the body doesnt go into such a 'deep sleep' during a nap, that it can, and one can retain a certain level of conciousness, and also to be able to pull out and do so.