Just thinkin..

[CelestLily]

does anyone know people that seem to just have chaos gravitate toward them? why is this? some kind of mind set? a curse? is it some sort of aura they put off? even nice people have this happen they seem to not be liked by a lot of people even though they are nice. can anyone relate?

[Faery-Wings]

I know for a fact that when my mind is cloudy, nasty, cruddy, whetever negative feeling is in there, the rest of my external world seems the same. I believe that what we think and the words we choose to speak has a direct impact on the world we create for ourselves. Within reason of course. ;) But when I am negative, I notice *everything* seems to break, fall apart, my kids don't listen...when I am calm and grounded, things seem to flow better.

I try to make an effort to speak and think "in the positive." It is not always easy and I find that if I start out negative and continue negative, then the negative hole I am in just keeps getting deeper and harder to get out of. Thats when I do a candle spell, saging, asking of the Goddess for an extra push out of it.

So, I am not sure if this is what you were looking for , but just my 2 cents anyway. :)

[CelestLily]

cool interesting view. thanks!

[Eeluna]

I agree with Chryssi1. I have noticed that my attitude and mindset has a huge affect on everyone around me. It's like the chaos within is transferred to the outside world. When I notice things spiralling out of control, I try to take steps to fix the problem--the sooner the better!

[poz]

What if someone can't control the negativity if they're depressed or if they're in a situation they can't change? Staying positive seems impossible.

[Thia]

Originally posted by CelestLily
does anyone know people that seem to just have chaos gravitate toward them? why is this? some kind of mind set? a curse? is it some sort of aura they put off? even nice people have this happen they seem to not be liked by a lot of people even though they are nice. can anyone relate?

One of my sisters in my coven is like this. She is a wonderful person, but chaos and Discordia just seem to be pulled to her. If I can step outside of myself and just watch what happens, it's incredible.

I do partially think it's a mind set and partially just part of the lesson she is supposed to learn in this life.


What if someone can't control the negativity if they're depressed or if they're in a situation they can't change? Staying positive seems impossible.

Good question. I think you can always change your situation. Sometimes the changes you make are not for the best, however. I'm incredibly positive, so I get frustrated with people who aren't (very judgemental of me, I realize and am working on that). If someone is that depressed, I think they need to figure out why. When things are incredibly bleak, I remind myself constantly that they are supposed to be this way right now. I'm supposed to learn something and then I attempt to get some "me time" in the bubble bath with tea and my favorite book. I try to spoil and pamper myself with little things that do make me happy.

[Stacy]

I seem to be attracting unusual situatuions. Every day has something "weird" that happens.

Sometimes is fun cause it keeps my life out of being boring..but sometimes can be very annoying cause it doesn't allow me to have peace of mind..

Often wondered if Karma has anything to do with it :rolleyes:

[CelestLily]

yah i agree with all of these.. i know what you mean about the weird things happeing... i promise i ve seen whacky things like a stop light turn green then red again... car s with no "known" drivers... stuff like that.

[materra]

Howdy :wave: Some folks are working thru stuff in this life... and a few of them want chaos... so they get it. I call them crisis junkies... if their lives aren't in a state of chaos they aren't happy. Just my 2 cents.

[CelestLily]

Werd! It's like they get energy off of it er somethin..

[Stacy]

Originally posted by CelestLily
Werd! It's like they get energy off of it er somethin..
No, I wouldn't say it givs me energy.. just simple acceptance of the fact..

[CelestLily]

yea im sure it s different for everyone although i do know people that seem to feed off of it. feed off of drama and such.

[Stacy]

Odd.. I thought I posted a reply couple minutes ago, but it's not here..

Anyway, I know what you mean.. They always seem depressed and unsatisfied with whatever that is going on in their lives. And, even if they have some good happenings they are always questioning it if it's maybe not so good..

Now, when I'm thinking about it: my dad is one of those people *sigh*

Oh well..

[Ravens_Tears]

I am one of those people who seems to have chaos gravitate towards them... I can honestly say that it makes life stressful, but it is never boring. Every time I phone my oldest best friend (we've been friends since we were 12), when we're off the phone, her husband bugs her to tell him "What happened to her NOW!!!" And he is always bugging me that I should write a book... but I've told him no one would believe me and I'd have to market it as fiction!:lol:

What draws that kind of chaos or negativity? I am not quite sure. It could be past-life karma, it could be negativity. Myself and my friends have discussed this before simply because of the events of my life and what seems to be drawn to me. With me personally, this has been a life-long thing. Their conclusions have been that it's because I am a very loving, open, caring person and, unfortunately for some, bluntly honest. That negativity and pain are drawn to the positive and someone/something who may be able to sooth their pain. Unfortunately, it also draws the attentions of some twisted individuals who take pleasure in hurting someone else just for the sake of hurting them. The one lesson I have learned quite thoroughly in this life time is that loveing someone unconditionally does not mean that you like or condone the others actions. It does not mean that you allow yourself to be used or abused. Unfortunately, many people seem to think that is what unconditional love means.

The hardest lesson is learning to walk away, to say this far and no farther and let go with love. It does cut down on the chaos, negativity and the pain to refuse it further entrance into your life.

[CelestLily]

Ahhh so true! It's also easier to remember the bad things because if it's bad enough it stix out in ure head more. I just got back from New York and a lot of the stereotypes were so true but at the same time there were some extremly nice people also. I seemed to attract the psychos and the niceys.. opposite ends of the spectrum. It keeps things interesting to say the least.

[Sequoia]

ugh! *laughs* life can really suck!

I often feel horrible, because whether it is true, or just a coincidence, bad things seem to happen in people's lives, about the time I come into them. Example: when I met one of my dearest friends, shortly thereafter his girlfriend (read: most likely fiance, I mean, they were talking about children's names and had these things all planned out) left him. Another friend- well, it was just a huge huge mess. It seems like it's always only a matter of time before all hell breaks loose. Half the time it seems like I'm there to cause it, the other half of the time I seem there to help pick up the pieces. It drives me crazy at times, because though I love to help, I almost feel like I'm being used as an implement of change or something. It drives me nuts! Either somebody's moving me around to meet the right people at the right times, or I kick the spiderwebs of fate whenever I show up. Still havn't figured out which it is. :huh:

Edited to add: I forgot to mention something though. These 'bad' things that happen - such as the girlfriend leaving - are often those "it hurts but it's for the best" type things. For example: that girlfriend was actually very demanding and hurtful, to the point she was nearly abusive. And very seriously wounded this fellow's friends' feelings. Even though it's such horrible pain for him, it seems to me at least that it is for the best. (keep in mind, I did nothing actively, it just seemed to happen shortly after I met him, and no, we aren't romantic or anything like that.)

Whenever something happened around me, and it was seen as my fault and I was blamed and called things like liar or traitor. . . it was when I could not lie to those I cared about, and told them the truth, and it wasn't what they wanted to know or hear. So they closed their eyes and ears and did the easiest thing to do - blamed me, called it lies, and went about their business.

Soooo. . . whether I attract this stuff, it attracts me, or it's just some sort of effect I have in life (kicking in the lessons - this would seriously be a nasty karmic effect :bad: no wonder it's hard to find good friends to keep), I'm trying to figure it out! It makes me a bit timid to get close to folks, or to love. Everything around me seems to have triple it's karmic effect, and it's really quite enough to make one paranoid about friendships!

[CelestLily]

That almost reminded me of the way Banshees signal things. (not that your a Banshee) that would be quite hard to almost be a signal of change for people. Mayb that s one of your gifts that at times seems like a curse? so that s good there is a bright side to it. Mosts gifts almost seem to be like that when used in a good way. funny isnt it? a gift used in a good way seems to backfire sooner than the opposite. but in the end if you look into hard enough the truth is found.