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Matt
January 3rd, 2003, 01:44 PM
What are some different titles for people who work with the energy i know some witch wizard stuff like that my friends call them selves Magicka but.........im not sure about any others so lil help:D
Stacy
January 3rd, 2003, 01:55 PM
warlock..
Flar's Freyja
January 3rd, 2003, 03:42 PM
Shaman, intuitive or intuitive reader or healer, medicine man or woman, seer, lightworker, energetic healers..........
Raevyn
January 3rd, 2003, 04:00 PM
witch - usually folk magic, natural and sympathetic magic
wiccan - usually magic associated with wicca - a bit of folk mixed with a bit of ceremonial, often centered around seasons and God/dess
mage - manipulates energy directly
chaote - uses any system of magic or religion to achieve a goal
magician - ceremonial magic
Flar's Freyja
January 3rd, 2003, 04:07 PM
Also, here's some interesting information on the true meaning of the term "warlock":
The word warlock is derived from the Middle English word "warloghe," and Old English word "wrloga," which meant an oath breaker during the medieval times. The word is from two words: wr (meaning a pledge) and logan (meaning to lie).
The most common use of the word is now a male witch. The word is a medieval Christian creation caused by ignorance of the pagan religion, Wicca. (Witches are now known to be Wiccans.) Warlocks have nothing to do with Wicca and are usually believed to be devil worshipers; the Devil is the expected source of a warlock's magic. They called male witches "warlocks" (oath breakers) because they were believed to be demons that refused their true faith, Christianity.
In modern fantasy, warlocks are often just another word for spell-caster, and are often assumed to be evil. In Dungeons and Dragons, warlock is a title given to experienced magicians.
http://www.dragon-warrior.com/Bestiary/warlock.shtml
Rick
January 3rd, 2003, 04:58 PM
Vitki, Sidh-man(woman), Runesinger...
Rick
January 3rd, 2003, 05:01 PM
Just an added thought here... maybe you shouldn't think of it as a 'title', but rather as a 'desctription'... what seems to best fit what you do (or want to do)?
Matt
January 3rd, 2003, 05:21 PM
Ya that makes sense oh and for people who don't know which i think is everyone but my friends (i asked them:D) a magicka is supposedly a person who manipulates energy from the universe with the guidance of the gods but then there an ecentric lot so who knows.
Haedis
January 3rd, 2003, 11:10 PM
Freyja said- "The word is a medieval Christian creation caused by ignorance of the pagan religion, Wicca."
Since Wicca didnt exist in medieval times how can that be? Sorry to nitpick, I'm just curious as to what you meant.
Stacy
January 4th, 2003, 01:19 AM
I found another view on meaning of word "Warlock"
http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/pagansplayground/whitch.html
Who knows in the mids of all those histories and views.. :rolleyes:
Flar's Freyja
January 4th, 2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Haedis
Freyja said- "The word is a medieval Christian creation caused by ignorance of the pagan religion, Wicca."
Since Wicca didnt exist in medieval times how can that be? Sorry to nitpick, I'm just curious as to what you meant.
Freyja didn't say it. The article she posted did.
Grey
January 10th, 2003, 10:27 PM
These are the labels we use around my hometown.
Conjurer: someone who binds and summons things
Mage: someone who works by magic mostly by the feel of it
Wizard:experianced male practicioner with atleast some divinatory gifts
Hedgewitch: a witch who is completely self taught or tends to use herbs and talismans to the exclusoin of all else
Runesmith:Like a blacksamith but a runesinger to boot.
Sorcerer:someone who uses illusion, or mental magic or elemental spells.
Elementalist:someone who use allmost all elemental spells.
Seer:someone who speciallizes in divination.
Witch: anyone who practices wicca
Artificer: someone who makes talismans, imbues,inscribes objects, or uses runes to enhance objects.
Druid:someone who uses earth magic (non elemental)
We dont have anyone in this area who is a memeber of the druidic associaction
Shaman: someon who sacrifices directly into theyre rituals in order to cast them.
Practitioner:anyone who uses magic of any sort.
Clerical practitioner:someone who is deeply religious and uses only prayers but uses them much as others would use spells.
We often call anything related to magic by the term the "Bookclub" to escape any unwanted attention. most people these days seem none to interested in reading as ahh no ones ever asked to join a bookclub around here. Group magic is practiced pretty much by girls only... theyres only three guys in the area anyways.
Sgeir
January 16th, 2003, 04:37 PM
How about "Magister" (or Magistra)? I'm sure I've seen that listed somewhere...
Armitage
January 16th, 2003, 05:20 PM
The Bookclub? I LIKE that one. ^_^
Marchosias
January 16th, 2003, 09:36 PM
Devil's Advocate ;)
Raevyn
January 17th, 2003, 01:55 AM
The magister one is in the grading used here for your title - you know, the word under your nick. By default a grading is chosen by your post count. It corresponds to Golden Dawn grading, and you can find one of the threads that explains the grades here - http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=599
Raevyn
January 17th, 2003, 01:56 AM
In case I wasn't clear enough, by title and "word under your nick" I mean.. well mine is "Em Ma'at" right now. You can see it above my avatar and below my nick.
Sgeir
January 18th, 2003, 02:01 AM
Thanks :) I hadn't realised what all the titles are, hadn't been looking, I suppose. Must have just seen "magister" under someone's name and not really noticed :D
dreamweaver
January 24th, 2003, 10:35 AM
How about people.What is in a title anyway
Raevyn
January 24th, 2003, 12:07 PM
I actually just wrote a short article on words and labels so the topic is of some interest to me. (forgive me as this is reallllly ramble-y)
A title is a word associated with a person (obviously). Some ancient cultures (specifically I point to Kemet because I know Kemet) felt words in and of themselves were power. They were not just an arrangement of letters, but could be complex concepts and ideas. Further, the word was a connection to the concept or entity it represented.
Most of us recognize the use of correspondences - we recognize the bridge between blue and health, for instance. Words are much the same. It is human nature to classify and label, and by doing so we come up with a title to streamline communication about something. The danger can come in if we forget that the word is not the object itself, or that the word sums up the object/concept what have you - for instance in the case of stereotyping and discrimination.
At the same time, I'm sure we're all aware of the importance of communication tools such as language. Of course, if we couldn't use words to discuss concepts that are beyond words, we couldn't be here chatting now. One can always ask for clarification (for example - when you ask how your friend got their nickname or why they call themself by a certain name).
Names were an important part of existence to the people of Kemet. Knowing one's true name was to have power over them, such as in the myth of Aset and Ra. The name was known as "Ren" then, and people (especially pharoahs) might have several of them, and might change them throughout their life. Often we change our names to represent a change in our life or to connect ourselves with something we like.
To me, labels and titles are just a more abstract form of names. I am known by my legal name, magical names, and then I'm known by my positions as daughter, sister, friend, wife, and so on. These labels are an important part of who I am and how I relate to the world. I don't think it's possible nor even efficacious to ignore the human nature in labelling and classifying - it's useful most of the time, and it's something we're born to do.
At the same time, I can understand the sentiment that one shouldn't spend *all* their time on labels, and that there's a danger of limiting ourselves by labels. To label something on the spiritual is to connect it or try to understand it on the physical. To label the divine is to try to draw lines around part of it and identify it in a physical way, where the divine of course exists well beyond (and mostly beyond) the physical. Finally of course we are so much more then our labels, and labels by definition are simple to the complexity of who we are.
Thus we can't be a slave to labelling, which is the point I think a lot of people want to get across. While we don't *have* to label ourselves, or give ourselves a name, it's something we innately recognize gives us meaning and power. You wouldn't tell someone not to care about their name, so why insist that about their label.
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