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Garm
June 17th, 2010, 07:12 PM
This is one those cases that sums everything I despise about the "justice" system


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/15/BARI1DVI41.DTL




All the years that Aaron Vargas was sexually abused as a boy, and the fact that his hometown of Fort Bragg rallied to his defense after he killed his molester, ultimately had little bearing on the sentence a judge handed down to him Tuesday.

David19
June 17th, 2010, 09:32 PM
Hopefully, it'll be overturned on appeal, or, like they hoped for, it'll get reduced to 5 years.

It's not a simple murder, and the guy did it have it coming, although, I'm wondering why he continued having sex with the rapist, until 4 years year ago?. Either way, he shouldn't have been sent down, at worst, he should've got the 5 year sentance, at best, he should have been sent for counselling, and psychiatric evaluation (no one can kill someone without somekind of psychological effects, at least no one other than a sociopath).

Ĉon Flux
June 18th, 2010, 12:41 AM
Killing someone in cold blood and then refusing to let said persons wife call the police until the man is dead is cold blooded murder. If the man he killed hadn't been a child molester a lot of people would have been screeching for the death penalty.

I think nine years is a reasonable sentence in this case. He's probably not going to have to serve the full sentence and like it or not, coldblooded murder is not acceptable, no matter who the person is or what they did to you.

Crysiira
June 18th, 2010, 01:08 AM
I agree, Njorun Alma. I think that while I understand the reasoning behind the murder, I also agree with the judge who said, "The use of violence to correct a wrong only encourages more violence." If we give this guy a slap on the wrist, who else will decide to take retribution on those they feel have done them wrong? It's a hard decision, but I think the judge made the right one.

Kraheera
June 18th, 2010, 01:30 AM
Killing someone in cold blood and then refusing to let said persons wife call the police until the man is dead is cold blooded murder. If the man he killed hadn't been a child molester a lot of people would have been screeching for the death penalty.

I think nine years is a reasonable sentence in this case. He's probably not going to have to serve the full sentence and like it or not, coldblooded murder is not acceptable, no matter who the person is or what they did to you.


I wouldn't say that. If I walked in and saw someone doing something to a kid, regardless of who said kid is, I'd quite easily kill them without a twitch of guilt.

And some would say that isn't called for, legally, because said child isn't in danger of dying.

Depends on your definition of dead, if you ask me.

memnoch
June 18th, 2010, 10:28 AM
As much as I like when cases like this are thrown out, or the person is found not guilty, or they get a slap on the wrist, the reality is the law is the law and it is there for the right reasons. While I occasionally cheer on the vigilante, we should not encourage vigilante justice. 9 years is fair, he should be out between 4-6 years.

Tiberias
June 18th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Premeditated murder is premeditated murder. If they made an insanity plea, that would be one thing. But the law doesn't get thrown out when you think the victim deserves it. That's a terribly dangerous slope, as black southerners know perfectly well.

Ĉon Flux
June 18th, 2010, 12:24 PM
I wouldn't say that. If I walked in and saw someone doing something to a kid, regardless of who said kid is, I'd quite easily kill them without a twitch of guilt.

And some would say that isn't called for, legally, because said child isn't in danger of dying.

Depends on your definition of dead, if you ask me.

The situation you're talking about is NOT premeditated murder, as in walking up to someone who is NOT hurting someone right then and there and shooting them. And then preventing people from calling the cops.

NOT THE SAME THING.

If you kill someone in cold blood, who happened to have killed someone ten years ago... does that negate the fact that YOU killed this man? You should go without penalty?

Infinite Grey
June 18th, 2010, 12:24 PM
In a rehabilitation system this would be a fair sentencing - but under the USA's punitive system they are punishing the taking of the law into his own hands as apposed to the murder its self; how lady justice would weep.