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December 23rd, 2010, 07:14 PM
I was doing a little research into the history of Yule, and I was wonderfully suprised to discover that the Oak King and the Holly King are actual pagan deities. This may make me seem quite ignorant, but I am new to any views other than that of conservative Christians. I always thought that these two "brothers" were simply my favorite characters in the Icemark Chronicles. Does anyone know of any other good fiction and/or non fiction books which include the Oak and Holly Kings? I would love to learn a more in depth history about them. :)

December 25th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Well, if you mean "gods" in the literal sense of deities worshipped by ancient people, they weren't, as far as we know. They were a theory developed by Robert Graves on Archetypes, based on a lot of Myths throughout the world that have common themes. It was Graves who gave us the terms Holly King and Oak King for these archetypes.

Sir James Frazer had earlier had a similar theory, but didn't use those terms.