Need help on multi-level spellwork

[patientdragoness]

Without getting too long winded, I have a complicated issue, which I would like to use spellwork to help remedy. Obviously, I will be doing real life things, but I have tried to remedy this before... and mundane means alone weren't too successful.

So what I mean is, do you think that in a case where many issues need to be addressed, would it be better to do one long complex spell, a couple of broad spells, or address everything with it's own little thing? I'm kind of leaning toward the latter, but that also leaves me wondering how each will alter the next, and if I won't end up in a big jumble of strange mishaps.

These are all self-directed, so no third parties are involved to worry about. Just me. Thoughts? Has anyone done this kind of thing before?

[*GrumpButt*]

If there are a bunch of things making up this problem, I would say that I would try to work each thing out, or maybe group a few things together if they are closely related. I don't see how doing one big spell is going to sort out a bunch of problems. I feel it is best to address each thing on it's own.

Think of a long tangled string, you have to work out each knot to get it smooth and flowing again.

Just my take of course ;)

[Terra Mater]

Start by drawing a diagram of the problem and connect the issues to one another that directly affect one another. You can flowchart, draw a wbe, whatever. Once you have that diagram you will have a better understanding of whether you need a single spell, some broad spells, or a web of connected spellworks. :thumbsup:

[Godgifu]

Without getting too long winded, I have a complicated issue, which I would like to use spellwork to help remedy. Obviously, I will be doing real life things, but I have tried to remedy this before... and mundane means alone weren't too successful.

So what I mean is, do you think that in a case where many issues need to be addressed, would it be better to do one long complex spell, a couple of broad spells, or address everything with it's own little thing? I'm kind of leaning toward the latter, but that also leaves me wondering how each will alter the next, and if I won't end up in a big jumble of strange mishaps.

These are all self-directed, so no third parties are involved to worry about. Just me. Thoughts? Has anyone done this kind of thing before?

I have found that, with big complex issues that don't remedy easily, sometimes it can be important to evaluate how practical the goal is and how much change or sacrifice to your own (present) life you're willing to undergo for the sake of it. Like, for example, sometimes you might want more money, but you live in a town with no quality jobs and are not willing to move, and so it's much more difficult to overcome to problem.

Overall it sounds like you've got a fair idea of what to expect, I think, and you just might want to contemplate what the exact trouble is more deeply -- what it is that everything stems from. I also observe that often, even the best spells result in something more akin to a 'satisfactory' result rather than dreams-all-come-true scenario -- like you want to become head of the company you work for, but instead just get to a position you enjoy and are okay with, even if it's lower-rank -- stuff like that.

There's a book called Success Without a College Degree (http://astore.amazon.com/talstar-20/detail/0966212010) which -- whether you've got a degree or not -- has got some useful goal planning stuff in it and helpful tips about the kind of sacrifices you might have to make to be successful in whatever it is you want to do (career, obviously, is the main focus, but it can apply to other things.)

I will say that I don't think I've known anyone to succeed in turning around a situation with magic that needed more than two or three little things to first fall into place. Again, perhaps there's actually one big issue that needs fixing (it is often so) and you need to deal with that rather than with lots of symptoms of the mess.

[Shaedema]

Start by drawing a diagram of the problem and connect the issues to one another that directly affect one another. You can flowchart, draw a wbe, whatever. Once you have that diagram you will have a better understanding of whether you need a single spell, some broad spells, or a web of connected spellworks. :thumbsup:

This. :thumbsup:

For myself, I work much better when I can see how all the problems are related. Otherwise I end up working on them individually and the list never gets shorter.

[Terra Mater]

This. :thumbsup:

For myself, I work much better when I can see how all the problems are related. Otherwise I end up working on them individually and the list never gets shorter.

Same here. I actually use computer flowcharts to plan out multi level spells and rituals.

[Shaedema]

Same here. I actually use computer flowcharts to plan out multi level spells and rituals.

I'm not that advanced yet. :smileroll I'm still using paper and pencil/pen.

[Terra Mater]

I'm not that advanced yet. :smileroll I'm still using paper and pencil/pen.
LOL, actually I use paper and pen. flowcharting is just a method of drawing that shows the steps as boxes of various kinds, and their order by connecting these with arrows. This diagrammatic representation can give a step-by-step solution to a given problem. Process operations are represented in these boxes, and arrows connecting them represent flow of control.

An example:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/LampFlowchart.svg/220px-LampFlowchart.svg.png
The problem and the results use the same shape but different colors. Suggested solutions take a different shape.

Not only is it an easy style to adapt to a lot of problem solving situations, but it gives you a clear visual representation of otherwise complicated and sometimes convoluted problems. Once you have charted a situation, it becomes very easy to fond mundane solutions, but also to direct your spells for greatest positive effect with as few mishaps as possible.

[*GrumpButt*]

Terra that is what I was trying (lol) to say. thank you for putting it much better perspective!