Any Odinists here or Asatruar here

[British Knight]

Hey all!

Im new to this website and paganism but im especially interested in following the way of our ancestors particuarly of odinism.
So I was wondering if thier are anyother Odinists on this forum?

If not could anyone provide me with a link to an Odinist Forum?

Cheers!

[Sequoia]

Welcome! :)

I'm actually currently getting my butt dragged into asatru. . . *chuckles* Try giving Rick a PM.

And best of luck to you!

[Rick]

Howdy! (That's Olde High Okie-ese for "Hail the Gods of Our Ancestors!" 8O

Thanks for the PM... I've PM'd you some specific things, & thought I'd add this (it's a pretty good general jumping-off point)...

http://www.irminsul.org/as/asw.html

Glad to have you on board!

[Journeyman]

Great sig, Rick!

[Rick]

Thanks

[British Knight]

Thanks for your help Rick and everyone who has replyed to my thread!

Last night I 'revealed' to my parents that I was thinking of becoming a member of an Odinist group and I showed them a newsletter that the Odinic-rite had sent me.
they looked confused and thought that it was some weird cult or something.
The Odinic rite was on that list that you gave me so it must be legitimate!

Would you guys have any methods that I could use to graduallyease them in to accepting it?
I guess that they must want me to remain a christian!

[Rick]

Hmm... well, maybe tell 'em that you simply don't feel spiritually fulfilled, & that you're going to look into some other options... & this is one of them...

[apperntice wizard]

Greeting! Does Asatru allow for wizard work or just "seeing?" I was woundering because I started out reading about wizard work and a friend of mine advised me to check out this path as he thinks it will better suite my morals. Can anyone help in this matter?

[Driffinna]

apperntice wizard- Asatru has magic, but usually people who practice it practice specfically runes or seidhr as it is historically what the Norse practiced. Most of us do not practice magic like many wiccans do, actually most of us don't practice magic at all. Magic is picked up by the few who are interested.

[Sequoia]

actually most of us don't practice magic at all.
That's not really true. Just because it isn't called "magic" specifically, doesn't mean it isn't done.

Apprentice, try PMing Rick. He might be able to answer your questions.

[Driffinna]

That's not really true. Just because it isn't called "magic" specifically, doesn't mean it isn't done.

Apprentice, try PMing Rick. He might be able to answer your questions.

Ok but if you asked most Asatruar in the Northeast community if they practice magic they will say no. If you asked them if they purposefully worked energy to impose their will upon the universe most of them will say no. If you ask them if they work with runes a lot most of them will say no. If you asked them if they worked Seidhr most of them will say no. I am not talkng about unconcious "magic" I am not talkng about prayer as magic, I am talking about intentionally and conciously working magic, energy, whatever you want to call it, for a purpose and most of them don't. Infact I even know a few who don't even believe in magic.

Edit: just adding this: I am not saying there aren't any Asatruar who practice magic. There are those of us who do. I am just trying to say that it is not the focus of the Asatru. Some pagan religions almost seem to use magic as a foundation where as Asatru doesn't.

[Mjollnir]

That's not really true. Just because it isn't called "magic" specifically, doesn't mean it isn't done.


Actually, it for the most part is.It is done, but by a very small handful, of the 300 or so I know of here in the NE I can think only 10 or so I know that practice Seidh work.

[Rick]

Ok but if you asked most Asatruar in the Northeast community if they practice magic they will say no. If you asked them if they purposefully worked energy to impose their will upon the universe most of them will say no. If you ask them if they work with runes a lot most of them will say no. If you asked them if they worked Seidhr most of them will say no. I am not talkng about unconcious "magic" I am not talkng about prayer as magic, I am talking about intentionally and conciously working magic, energy, whatever you want to call it, for a purpose and most of them don't. Infact I even know a few who don't even believe in magic.

Edit: just adding this: I am not saying there aren't any Asatruar who practice magic. There are those of us who do. I am just trying to say that it is not the focus of the Asatru. Some pagan religions almost seem to use magic as a foundation where as Asatru doesn't.
I generally agree with this (however, I am acquainted with a very large number of the exceptions :heybaby: ).

[Mjollnir]

I generally agree with this (however, I am acquainted with a very large number of the exceptions :heybaby: ).


Rick, have you seen a variation in those practicing Seidh as far as where they live? As Driff and I have said, around the NE there really arent that many we know of or personally met that practice it.

[Gnoblod]

If I might toss in my two cents, seidh is something that one doesn't usually just talk about if one does it, at least in this part of the country, and it isn't common at all.

Everyone seems to study runes, but not everyone employs them for anything.

[Hærfest Leah]

If I might toss in my two cents, seidh is something that one doesn't usually just talk about if one does it, at least in this part of the country, and it isn't common at all.



Why don't they talk about it?

[Gnoblod]

I don't know. They don't talk about it.

If they did, I'd probably know, but there wouldn't be anything to know. :lol:

Seriously, though, I just don't hear many people mentioning it, but I know a few are involved with it.

[Rick]

Rick, have you seen a variation in those practicing Seidh as far as where they live? As Driff and I have said, around the NE there really arent that many we know of or personally met that practice it.
Not really. But a really good Seidh practioner will often attract those that want to learn how to do it. But most don't speak of it outside of their own kinsmen... remember, it's a mystery, something for the 'initiated', so to speak (but not secret, by any means). I know a Seidhwoman here in Tulsa, & a Seidhman in OKC (she's quite public, he's not public at all).

[Hærfest Leah]

Not really. But a really good Seidh practioner will often attract those that want to learn how to do it. But most don't speak of it outside of their own kinsmen... remember, it's a mystery, something for the 'initiated', so to speak (but not secret, by any means). I know a Seidhwoman here in Tulsa, & a Seidhman in OKC (she's quite public, he's not public at all).

Gotchya, IMO it would be something worth learning.

[Rick]

Seapearls, if you're seriously interested in a Seidh teacher, I'll try to dig one up... I know someone in Tulsa, (I think) Lexington, KY, maybe Indiana... odds of getting any closer than that are slim...

[Rick]

..meanwhile, I found this: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/seidhr.htm

[Hærfest Leah]

Seapearls, if you're seriously interested in a Seidh teacher, I'll try to dig one up... I know someone in Tulsa, (I think) Lexington, KY, maybe Indiana... odds of getting any closer than that are slim...

Sure that would be great. I just finished Northern Magic by Thorsson last light and read about Seidh and making hex signs & such.

Thanks for the link.

[cowdragon]

Just adding that I'm an Asatruar...kinda. Just started down the path, but all I've gotten is a couple emails and some web site print-offs. Is there some kind of "baptism" or other ritual rite that I must go through to make it official. My wife and kids too?


The Cowdragon _wiz_

[Hærfest Leah]

Just adding that I'm an Asatruar...kinda. Just started down the path, but all I've gotten is a couple emails and some web site print-offs. Is there some kind of "baptism" or other ritual rite that I must go through to make it official. My wife and kids too?


The Cowdragon _wiz_

Not that I've heard of & IMO you don't need it; but you could always just do your own family dedication ritual to the gods.

[Driffinna]

Just adding that I'm an Asatruar...kinda. Just started down the path, but all I've gotten is a couple emails and some web site print-offs. Is there some kind of "baptism" or other ritual rite that I must go through to make it official. My wife and kids too?


The Cowdragon _wiz_


I am asatraur.. and I have never heard of that.. never had to do it, I have never heard of any others having to go through that as well. If you join of kindred sometimes they have some sort of ritual, like the one my friends are in have a kindred only sumbel for the group and the new member, but its not similar to a baptism at all from what I hear. Where did you read that? It sounds rather sketchy to me.

[cowdragon]

I didn't read or hear it anywhere actually. I may just be too indoctrinated into judeo-christian ideologies.

So, it just seems like to join a religion I gotta get baptized.

I know, I'm a wierdo. ;) Thank you all though for the input. I think we may come up with some kind of short dedication ritual to do as a family.



The Cowdragon _wiz_

[heathenwolf]

First off, Welcome to the Asatruar community, now i must say to you that i hope you have completly studied Odin and his ways before you commit to Him. Odin can be a bit tricky as a God. He doesnt always come to you straightforward, sometimes he can be very demanding. He has a strange way of giving you what you ask for ,but taking something in return that you never expected.

[heathenwolf]

Nope, no need for Baptism or special rituals its all in your heart, if your Germanic that is.

[cowdragon]

Most of my heritage is swedish. But, if you go back about 200 years ago, my ancestors were in turkey, Greece, Trasylvania, and Egypt. Then back to Sweden. So, I have blue eyes, dark skin, and I'm short for a viking(5'7"). My kids are blonde haired and blue eyed. I used to joke with my other swedish and norwegian friends that while their ancestors were storming the castles and pillaging villages, mine were the longships cooks. We weren't quite big enough to carry big axes. LOL! Although after seeing 13th warrior for the bazillionth time I love that the little viking is the tough guy who kills Angus.

I think like the Asatru though. Since most of my lieage is Swedish, I have certain ideologies that no school system could braiunwash me from.

But I love olives. Must be the Greek in me. ;)


The Cowdragon _wiz_

[Hærfest Leah]

Nope, no need for Baptism or special rituals its all in your heart, if your Germanic that is.

I so agree, you don't need anything more than that feeling.

[Cradoc]

I have been studying Paganism for about 4 years, mostly Celtic and Native American. I then suggetsed to me by my wife to check out Asatru. As I read, I came to the realization that this path was the one I was looking for. I am new to Asatru and have only been studying for a couple of months. My Ancestors came from Anglo-Saxon in the Prussian Empire. This is why I believe I am draw to the Asatru beliefs. If there is any advice or assistance you could provide, I would be most apprecative. My yahoo messanger is cheveyo_hania, Email is the same.

Thanks

[Driffinna]

I have been studying Paganism for about 4 years, mostly Celtic and Native American. I then suggetsed to me by my wife to check out Asatru. As I read, I came to the realization that this path was the one I was looking for. I am new to Asatru and have only been studying for a couple of months. My Ancestors came from Anglo-Saxon in the Prussian Empire. This is why I believe I am draw to the Asatru beliefs. If there is any advice or assistance you could provide, I would be most apprecative. My yahoo messanger is cheveyo_hania, Email is the same.

Thanks

Basically read read read. Get your hands on as many of the oldest sources you can. The Poetic Edda and Prose Eddas are the best place to start. Then you can go on to the Sagas and Saxo and later sources. The foundation is are those writtings of the Norse gods and culture. From there you can build up.

I am a big fan of this site: http://www.northvegr.org/main.php they have a old norse to english dictionary and a lot of the sources translated on there, if you can't get yourself a hard copy. And they have a message board that might be able to help you futher.

[Cradoc]

Thank you for the information. I will look for the Edda's. If there are any other suggested readings I would try those also. This is the path I want to take and follow. I know there is much to learn about this path and my ancestors.
Thanks again

[Hærfest Leah]

Thank you for the information. I will look for the Edda's. If there are any other suggested readings I would try those also. This is the path I want to take and follow. I know there is much to learn about this path and my ancestors.
Thanks again

Here this will help you as for online.
http://www.friggasweb.org/fwlinks.html

Now as for the books, you must see this.
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/main.php

Also see my signature for a good self paced Asatru U course.

[Driffinna]

Thank you for the information. I will look for the Edda's. If there are any other suggested readings I would try those also. This is the path I want to take and follow. I know there is much to learn about this path and my ancestors.
Thanks again

Eddas first, they are the oldest accounts we have of the gods and their stories directly. That will give you a very strong base. Some people don't go into reading much beyond that. But a lot of people like to know more, or get into some indepth discussions. If you do then you can start reading the sagas, like Volsung saga, Egil's Saga, Njal's saga, are the most popular, though there are dozens more. And there are the historical accounts of the Norse people like Tacitis' Germania, Grimm's Teutonic Mythology, and Saxo Grammaticus's History of the Danes. (Saxo as a warning though is a bit of a bigot. We are glad he could record the history down, but he has some nasty opinions)

For a modern study of the lore I also really like this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0140136274/104-2725168-8222308?v=glance&n=283155, which goes into a lot of the different gods, and traditions surround those gods. And is a lot easier to read then Tacitus, Grim and Saxo.

Actually now that remember I really good bookhoard can be found here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5595/booklist.html

And you are not quite Northeast, (ohio is not counted as northeast us is it?) But this is a mailing list to the Northeast community: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NortheastAsatru/ (I lurk there, don't really post) but some of the people there I believe might know people or groups in your area. But even if they don't, they are really knowledgeable, been doing this for much longer than I have and probably can help you in the right direction.