View Full Version : ID: Yinepu or Set? (figurine)
Agaliha
February 18th, 2011, 04:16 AM
Hey! I was hoping you all could help me figure out if this figurine my dad got me at a thrift store is supposed to be Yinepu or Set. I'm leaning towards Yinepu due to the ears, but I thought I'd ask, just to be sure :)
The only other thing I know about it is that it was hand carved from Egypt (there's a sticker on the bottom). And my dad bought it with a Het-Hert looking figurine (same style).
Part of my confusion was due to finding some images of Yinepu and Set that looked similar (in the ears and nose, or at least very close to similar) and the fact that this was hand carved, possibly going for a general idea of a deity rather than specifics. Yinepu seems to have wider ears, so that's what I'm assuming, but like I said, I thought I'd ask to be sure.
Pics:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll290/agalihaofthesun/figurine6.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll290/agalihaofthesun/figure4.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll290/agalihaofthesun/figurine1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll290/agalihaofthesun/figure2.jpg
lightdragon
February 18th, 2011, 04:42 AM
from what i gathered Yinepu is supposed to be similar to Anubis or another name. Set also supposed to have a long snout. This does not. As well as the ears are more doglike than rectangular.
So IMO this would be Yinepu/Anubis
Agaliha
February 18th, 2011, 04:50 AM
Yeah, Yinepu = Anubis :)
Thanks for looking!
Phoenix_Falls
February 18th, 2011, 08:32 AM
The hieroglyphics on the back don't seem to indicate a name. Do you have a better picture of them? Maybe it's got a title in it (or more than likely, it's "junk hieroglyphs" which are put on pictures/statues/trinkets from Egypt that are intended for the tourist trade. They're generally legitimate hieroglyphs, but there's no proper order to them).
Yinepu and Set don't generally look the same. Set's nose/muzzle is longer and more curved (like an anteater) and His ears are narrower and boxed off at the top rather than pointed.
It's possible that it's Yinepu, but it could also be Wepwawet as well. The two of Them are generally really difficult to tell apart unless you have some explanation hieroglyphics or it's in color Yinepu is almost always black (sometimes He's shown blue, green or teal though) and Wepwawet is almost always white or grey. Though Yinepu is usually shown holding a was scepter while Wepwawet is shown holding a spear or a shield.
It's also possible that it's neither of Them. Your lil'statue may in fact be Duamutef or Anput. Anput is Yinepu's wife and the goddess of the 17th nome of Upper Egypt. I say this as it appears the trinket has on a dress or is in mummiform.
If it's mummiform, it's most likely Duamutef, one of the four sons of Heru-Wer (Horus the Elder). He protected the mummified internal organs. Specifically Duamutef protected the stomach and His protectress is Nit (Neith). He protects the deceased from feeling hunger or thirst in the afterlife and He's also protector of one of the four directions (like His three brother). His direction is east.
Agaliha
February 18th, 2011, 09:10 AM
Wow, thanks! I didn't even think of Duamutef or Wepwawet. I'll have to look into their imagery as well. I just don't want to assume it's one deity, when it's really another. ;)
I can post a larger image of the hireoglyphs if you'd like later today. :)
Phoenix_Falls
February 18th, 2011, 10:50 AM
Wow, thanks! I didn't even think of Duamutef or Wepwawet. I'll have to look into their imagery as well. I just don't want to assume it's one deity, when it's really another. ;)
I can post a larger image of the hireoglyphs if you'd like later today. :)
yes please!
Agaliha
February 18th, 2011, 10:25 PM
Here you go!
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/323/hiero1.jpg
Phoenix_Falls
February 19th, 2011, 07:57 AM
Here you go!
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/323/hiero1.jpg
They're "junk hieroglyphics" generally speaking, Ancient people of Kemet really enjoyed repetition. So usually, after the ankh sign, there would be the hieroglyphs for the sound "en" (a wave of water) and "kh" (a banded circle, possibly representing a placenta) so when reading the word "life" it would look like "ankh an kh" to over verify the word the loose syllables are attached to. The only real exception to that is in the phrase "ankh, udja, seneb" (life, prosperity and health) which is the singular ankh followed by what looks like a flame in a valley and a folded piece of cloth that looks like a cane.
Also, the hieroglyphs that *are* correct aren't in the right context or sentence structure. So ultimately, it beats me Who your statue is. I'm leaning more towards Duamutef myself.
Agaliha
February 19th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Good to know! Thanks for looking it over. :)
Agaliha
February 19th, 2011, 08:06 AM
I can see a resemblance to Duamutef:
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/images/duamutef.jpg http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/akina_isis/foursonsofhorus.jpg
Oh! The other figurine I have looks a lot like Imsety. But it had (it sadly broke off) the Het-Hert crown (sun, horns).
Phoenix_Falls
February 20th, 2011, 07:26 AM
I can see a resemblance to Duamutef:
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/images/duamutef.jpg http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/akina_isis/foursonsofhorus.jpg
Oh! The other figurine I have looks a lot like Imsety. But it had (it sadly broke off) the Het-Hert crown (sun, horns).
I don't think I've ever seen a falcon deity with the horned solar-disk before, I know that the Apis Bull is thought to be the son of Het-Hert (Het-Heru/Hathor) and He would be depicted as having a horned solar disk, but I can't recall any falcons with one. That doesn't mean it never happened though. Let me do some research on that and I'll get back to you cause now I'm curious lol
Agaliha
February 20th, 2011, 07:35 AM
I thought Imsety was the human one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imset
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/imsety.htm
:)
Phoenix_Falls
February 20th, 2011, 08:08 AM
I thought Imsety was the human one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imset
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/imsety.htm
:)
Oh, you're right! I was thinking of Qebehsenuef =P
In that case, it could be a human representation of the Apis bull. It's common to see male deities with a sun disk, a sun disk with the moon, a sun disk as a component of an ostrich feather crown or the sun disk with a uraeus, but I think Apis is the only male deity/demigod that was ever depicted with the horned sun disk. Again, I'll do some research into that though.
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