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Kaylara
May 25th, 2001, 01:09 PM
Would you, Could you
...1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor?

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?

8) Celebrate CHristmas?

9) Go to a Bris?

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?



How tolerant are you?

(This is an excellent topic from Amberlaine and can be found with additional responses at http://www.mothersmagic.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=170 )

:)

Kaylara

Faery-Wings
May 25th, 2001, 01:24 PM
1. I could go to Church, but I couldn't take Communion. Although I did at my grandmother's funeral, because my mom said that she (my grandma) would like that.

2. I would go to Temple but probably not sing, but that is because I have a very bad voice :)

3. I am a Godparent already. And my atheistic husband is the godfather! Poor kid.

4. Yes, habit if nothing else.

5. I politely tell them I am not interested.

6. No. I really couldn't do this. No way. Gotta be honest!

7. My kids have had Advent calendars. We call them Wishing Calenders and we think of something special each night for the season.

8. Yes, I like Santa! :D

9.Yes.

10. No- mostly because it is a waste of paper on me.

I hope you didn't mind me answering all of these here. I am going to check out the rest of the responses on the website.

Chris

mol
May 25th, 2001, 01:34 PM
YEs to all because I love new experiences and I was experimenting and looking when I found my current path. Also I would do these things because a friend wants to share it with me. If someone comes to my door to share something with me they think it is important enough to risk door to door activity, so it at least deserves my attention long enough to take the material and give it a glance. Then thank them kindly and send them on their way. I draw the line at inviting them in for a chat, but I am not rude to them unless provoked.

Semele

Semele
May 25th, 2001, 01:36 PM
oopps!!! Logged in as my hubby....sorry. Hey Mol stay off my computer, you have two of your own!!!!

Semele

Xois
May 25th, 2001, 01:41 PM
hmmm lets see here:

1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion? Of course!

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor? YES

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child? NO. I would love to, but I can't. I tried for my sister and her church required a note from my church stating that I was a good catholic! Since I could produce no note, I could not do it.

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer? No, I do not do this at the mass. However, if i go to a funeral and I kneel at a wake to pay respects, I will pray to their god in a manner that I think the departed would appreciate.

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door? of course, though they may not like what i have to say...

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?
ABSOLUTLY!

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar? OF COURSE, they are great fun!

8) Celebrate CHristmas? I do for my family and becuase I like it

9) Go to a Bris? Yes

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner? As a literature student, the more bibles I have, the better.

Thanks for those questions. I see Istill have some stuff to work on!

Xois

Yvonne Belisle
May 25th, 2001, 01:46 PM
I have done many of these things and will continue doing them. I think it's important to know and understand others choices. I can't teach tolerence very well if i'm not willing to practice it.

bluecat
May 25th, 2001, 02:09 PM
1 - I would attend their service, but would respectfully decline their communion. I do not believe it would be proper for me to participate in their sacrament. I have done this on several occasions.

2 - Of course I would go to temple and even listen. I have a really, really bad singing voice (sort of like Lee Marvin in Paint Your Wagon).

3 - I am a God Parent in Spirit to many children. The parents are aware of my path, but they also know that I am conservative and even grouchy at times about certain aspects. I also respect their beliefs. Like Xios, I would not be able to get any credentials though.

4 - I would sit, I have very bad knees that make kneeling uncomfortable. I would not make the sign of the cross for the same reasons I would not partake of sacrament.

5 - That would be very difficult for me. In the past I have been very rude to them. I would no answer the door in my birthday suit as I have had before, but I would be polite to them at the door and tell them I was not interested. It is very doubtful that a Mormon Missionary would come to my door.

6 - Does Not Apply

7 - Sure. I would also educate on the meaning of the Advent. To deny this would be do deny an educational opportunity and prevent an embarrassing moment for the child.

8 - I celebrate Christmas in my own fashion. I participate with my family and exchange gifts. I have also gone to Christmas Services, but I would be an observing guest.

9 - Been there.

10 - I have done this numerous times. They don't have cooties ;). I often pass the Bible on to someone who I feel has a use for it.


Blue

No apologies. :)

mol
May 25th, 2001, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Semele
oopps!!! Logged in as my hubby....sorry. Hey Mol stay off my computer, you have two of your own!!!!

Semele

Two! I am insulted. I have more than that. :p

Armitage
May 25th, 2001, 02:42 PM
I could probaby do any of those, except maybe take the Bible, for the sole reason that I'd take it home intending to give it to someone who'd read it, and it'd get assimilated into the mass of junk that is my stuff instead of being put to use.
I dunno about the bris..Isn't that the circumcision ceremony? *_*

Amethyst Rose
May 25th, 2001, 02:54 PM
I'm really tollerant so most of them I can see myself doing.

1. I would attend the service, and I would accept communion only because I have been confirmed by the anglican church, and I feel that gives me the right to accept their blessings.
2. Sure I'd go to a temple, and I love to sing, so I'd gladly join in.
3. I would be honored to be a god parent.
4. I would go to a Catholic mass, (I've been before), but I wouldn't make the sign of the cross, because that's not the sign of my religion.
5. I always talk to them about our separate religions.
6. I would definately cover myself.... I always respect a cultures traditions, when possible.
7. Sure, I'm sure they'd love it...(when I have kids).
8. I already do celebrate christmas...to me it's a celebration of family.
9. Sure!
10. Probably not....but only because I already have two of my own.....

Kaylara
May 25th, 2001, 09:13 PM
1)I would have no problem going to church, but I wouldn't take the communion because I think that it would be disrespectful to the members of the church.

2)If I knew the song (Or had the words and music in front of me) and it was not a group of Orthodox Jewish I would have no problem singing along.

3)I would be honored to be a God parent, but the friend would have to know of my beliefs and not have a problem with me being of that religion.

4)I sit during the mass and would not cross myself. While I respect their religion, I do not follow it, and don't think that it would be appropriate for me to do.

5)My best friend is dating a JV, another friend used to be one, and I have no problems with them unless the are unwilling to have a intellegent conversation about it. I mean, coming to my door and chanting that I am going to hell doesn't score high up there on my favorite things to do.

6)If I were to go to a Mosque, I would cover myself... To not do so would be completely offensive to the members of that Mosque.


7)Yes.

8)I celebrate Yule and Christmas... Yule is my holiday, and not nessecarily my families. They like Christmas, and I like being around family during the Holidays.

9)While I really don't like the practice of circumcision, I would attend the event.

10)I already own three Bibles, and therefore do not need another.

Kaylara

reanna
May 25th, 2001, 09:56 PM
My momma always taught me:
"If you don't have anything nice to say...don't say anything at all"
(Sorry, flashback to childhood):)

I would say yes to all. I have two kids and I think it is very important that they are exposed to all different kinds of things so when they are old enough to decide, they have some experience to make decisions for themselves.
I also have great respect for my friends and people in general so I could not be deliberately rude to someone based on their religious views. The only people that can kind of annoy me is JW. I really don't like the way the border on forcing themselves into your home. My hubby has fixed that though. He made a little sticker that we placed on the front door that says"no visits by JW" and I haven't had them wake me up early on a Sat morn since. :D

In our area, the schools are very multicultural. I have taught my kids never to judge anyone on their religious views, skin color or appearance period. You must read the book, not just judge by the cover, for true beauty lies within.
It is a very hard one to keep up though when it seems I am one of the few parents that teaches those lessons. :rolleyes:

I am working hard on raising mine to stick by their convictions for they are entitled to their individuality, but not to be disrespectful to someone because of their convictions, for their are entitled to individuality as well.


Now that I have prattled on..... great question though. Gets the brain working.

Mariposa De La Luna
May 25th, 2001, 11:47 PM
I didn't really read anyone else's post before I responed. So if I asked a question already answered, don't answer it, I'm going to read them after I post.

...1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?

Yes to church, no to communion. I would not be eligible anymore.


2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor?

Yes, why is sing with the cantor significant?

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?

Only if they knew and accepted that I'm Pagan.

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?

Yes to 1st part, no to 2nd. I don't even say Amen anymore when everyone prays together.

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?

No, I don't like strangers who come up to my door. i don't speak to any solicitors. Its was something I greew up with. The dogs are also discouraging to them.

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?

Yes, in respect for their customs.

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?

I guess, I've seen ideas for Pagan Advent type calendars that I'd like to do.

8) Celebrate CHristmas?

Already do that.

9) Go to a Bris?

I saw what this one was from above. Yes I would if invited to celebrate but personally my son is not circumscized and won't be unless he wants to do it

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?

No, I've got one already, somewhere.


I try to be as tolerant as I can and respectful of other cultures. If you can't tell I still don't know much about alot of others.

loopy
May 26th, 2001, 03:35 AM
Excellent questions. :) I struggle time and again over how tolerant I am as opposed to how tolerant I think I am. :)

1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?
If it was a really good friend who wanted me to be there for some reason. But I couldn't participate in the Communion. It wouldn't seem right. Like I was being disrespectful to myself, my religion, and theirs.

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor? Same as number 1.

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?
Sure. :)

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic church during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?
I don't know why I'd be in a Catholic chruch, but if I was there, I'd kneel quietly and just speak to the Goddess. I wouldn't make the sign of the cross, though.

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?
No, I have no patience. Unless they were selling cookies.

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?
If that's the custom, yes. (I don't know what a Mosque is.)

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?
Those awesome little countdowns with the chocolate? Oh yeah! :D Although I'm with SAHM, I'd like to try and make a Pagan one first.

8) Celebrate CHristmas?
I do celebrate Christmas-- not the history behind it, just the presents and family-coming-together part. Oh, and the pie. The rest of my family is Catholic/Jewish, so it's usually a happy time. And I always put the Christmas tree up, both in my house and my grandma's. :)

9) Go to a Bris?
Sure, if I was invited.

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?
I would say "no thank you" and walk on. Although I might accept it out of politeness if I handed him/her a copy of The Spiral Dance and they accepted with a smile.

Skyebolt
May 27th, 2001, 05:42 PM
Hey Bluecat,
Lee Marvin has a beeeuuutiful voice!
:D
'I was born........under a wandring star'
heheh :P

sherry
May 27th, 2001, 09:28 PM
Yes to most of these with the exception of the johova witness one. They have a habit of waking me up ( despite my sign on the door that reads I work nights this had better be important!!) I figure knowing that I am asleep, and they can still wake me !instead of leaving me more fire starting papers like the ones the week before , they deserve what ever mood I show up in. I have no friends that are of this religion.

I would do anything for a friend or family and they know that most do not ask me to attend the services anymore but when the kids are having special programs I am asked to attend and if I am not able they do show pictures

IsisMoon
May 27th, 2001, 09:28 PM
1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?

Yes - and no. I have been to church, most recently to my niece and god-daughter's first communion. And I love the music!

I no longer participate in communion.

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor? I love singing and music so where and who with wouldn't worry me.

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?
I am - and didn't need to bring a note, which is just as well!

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic church during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?
Yes, I have done both. To me the sign of the cross is a symbol of trilogy (male or female), sacrifice and new life (among other things). After many many years of not attending mass I was quite surprised how ingrained the celebration is in my subconscious! I was there last to celebrate my niece's communion and it was actually a very modern service!

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?
I have - although they are few and far between. Infact, a couple of years ago I was at my mother-in-laws and she invited a couple in for a cup of tea. We sat around discussing ancient history rather than theology!

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?
Definitely.

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?
Yummy. I remember them!! Yes, I would.

8) Celebrate CHristmas?
Yes, but we celebrate the caring and sharing and family aspect. A time for being with people we love.

9) Go to a Bris?
HMMM - I don't know if I could handle watching! I'm not all that happy with circumcision anyway. But, if I was invited by someone close. I don't think I'd go as a 'hanger on' (poor choice of words - what about voyeur?)

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?
Not really. I think it would be a waste of paper as I have a couple at home already. I suppose it depends on how I feel at the time.

Thought provoking questions!!

Blessings

IsisMoon

Wyrdsister
May 28th, 2001, 09:50 AM
Excellent topic! Here goes:

1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?
Depends on the Church. If it was a Protestant church, then probably, depending on how comfortable I was with the church. If Catholic, I would go but would not take Communion as non-Catholics are not supposed to take Communion.

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor?
Only if they realized how bad of a singer I am. ;) While I don't sing, I do play handbells and have done so in several churches including a Baptist church (although I did duck out before the sermons...)

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?
Yes, as long as they realized that I wouldn't be the best candidate for helping to bring up their child in the Catholic tradition (seeing as I'm hopelessly unqualified for that!)

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?
I would kneel but probably not make the sign of the cross.

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?
I have for brief periods of time. While I have never invited them in, I have accepted the Watchtower newsletter from time to time as I am interested in other people's beliefs. As for Mormons coming to my door - they seem to be travelling in packs now (the last time they came to my door there were 4 of them and they explained something about trying groups of 4 rather than the traditional pairs), and while the thought of inviting 4 young men into one's house might be appealing to some ;), it's "not my bag, baby."

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?
Yes. I'd be so worried about getting someone into trouble if I didn't. I would go to a Mosque if invited, but I don't think I'd be very comfortable praying behind all of the men.

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?
Yes! I guess I've always liked the tradition, so I'd do it. I'd also create a Pagan/Wiccan one as well seeing as Yule would be the main holiday for us.

8) Celebrate CHristmas?
Yes. Christmas is essentially Pagan to me anyway (and my Christian mom! :) ), and it has been a wonderful tradition of gathering together with family and friends in my family. I'd definitely want my children to experience that.

9) Go to a Bris?
Are women allowed to attend a Bris? (I know veeery little about the Jewish faith.) I would go if invited by a parent of the child.

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?
No. I have several of my own.


That's it!

Wyrdsister

amberlaine
May 28th, 2001, 10:49 AM
heehee wyrdsisster i wondered if anyone would get the Dr. Seuss reference ;)

Elaine
May 28th, 2001, 04:27 PM
I would have to say yes to all of those except for the communion thing....as you all know by now I was raised Catholic...and consider myself christian/wiccan right now...I have not gone to communion for years....and this is because I have been so confused in my beliefs...I think that once I figure everything out I would change it to a yes...but until then...knowing the symbolism behind it...I don't think I could!!

Dria El
May 29th, 2001, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Kaylara
Would you, Could you
...1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor?

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?

8) Celebrate CHristmas?

9) Go to a Bris?

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?



How tolerant are you?

(This is an excellent topic from Amberlaine and can be found with additional responses at http://www.mothersmagic.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=170 )

:)

Kaylara

1. Absolutely, as long as my participation wouldn't be deamed offensive.

2. Absolutely, singing is good for the soul.

3. Absolutely, if they asked. They of course would know that I wasn't of their faith.

4. Oh sure! In my opinion, it's like saying 'Amen' at the end of a prayer (which I do if I agree with what's said).

5. I have a regular visit from a JW. She comes by and gives me a rundown on the new literature and asks how I'm doing. She's really nice. I just hope that doesn't change if/when she finds out 'what I am'. And as for Mormons, I talk to them all the time. My family, some people around this complex, and some of my oldest's friends are all Mormon. No biggie.

6. Absolutely. That IS the custom.

7. Yep! Advent calendars are fun!

8. I celebrate Christmas AND Yule every year. My family and some of my friends are Christian so we celebrate their holiday. I and some of my other friends are Pagan and we celebrate Yule. I figure the more reasons to party the better. :)

9. I didn't know what it was until I read a couple of posts but I guess that I would. It was very hard to watch my oldest get done which is why I didn't have my youngest done. But if it was important for my friend that I went, I'd be there.

10. Absolutely. I like diversity and value different opinions. I'd look at it as an opportunity to get to know our Baptist brothers and sisters.

But that's just me...

Dria El

belladonna23
May 29th, 2001, 08:23 PM
1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion? Would (and have) go to church, but will not take communion, as I feel that would be disrespectful to their faith.

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor? Yes. My b-friend is a practicing Jew and I always go to the Passover Seter with his family (and usually get talked into reading), to weddings, funerals, and the like.

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child? I could if allowed.

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer? I will kneel out of respect, but I will not cross myself.

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?
I usually do, and read whatever they give me. At the very least, it is a valuable learning tool.

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque? Yes.

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar? Yes.

8) Celebrate CHristmas? I do to some extent, already. I exchange gifts, and go to Christmas parties .

9) Go to a Bris? Probably

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?
Probably not, as I also have several of them already.



I would like to think that I am tolerant, although, like a lot of other people, I can get fairly incensed and defensive if I feel like I am under attack (which is often my perception and not really the case.)

bluecat
May 29th, 2001, 09:47 PM
Sherry and I were in a local place of business that I frequent and the proprietor knows that I am Pagan. The owner is a wonderful person and very tolerant of people's views and beliefs. She asked about my health and I filled her in on what had been discovered.

Anyway, as we were concluding our business with her she reached under the table and handed me a tract from her church. I smiled and told her, "You know this is not going to go anywhere with me." She responded that with my large heart it should be filled with the joy of ... and she didn't finish the statement. I thanked her and took the tract. I will be going back to her business tomorrow at 10AM to pick up the cartridges for my printer.

Enough rambling. Yes, we took the tract, but I was very polite and gracious to this person who I know and like very much. I would not dream of hurting her feelings, but I also would not tell her a line of B.S. just to be polite; I respect her and that would be wrong.

Blue :cool:

Rævyn Cigány
May 29th, 2001, 11:09 PM
...1) Go to church with a friend on the first Sunday of the month and participate in Communion?

I would and I have, but I would no longer take communion...

2) Go to temple with a friend on Friday evening and sing with the cantor?

I would if I had a Jewish friend...they unfortunately are scarce in my area.

3) Be a Godparent for yor Catholic friend's child?

I am a godparent to an Anglican child but I would also be a godparent to a Catholic child if I was asked

4) Kneel quietly in a Catholic hurch during mass and make the sign of the cross at end of the prayer?

Only out of sheer habit, but I find that lately I do not.

5) Talk to a Jehova's Witness or Mormon who came to your door?

I have, but lately the JW's do not seem to want to talk to me (a couple caught sight of my pentacle and fled).

6) Cover yourself (if you're a woman) if you went to a Mosque?

When in Rome (or anywhere else)...

7) Let your child have an Advent calendar?

My kids DO have one, and a candle wreath as well (they are raised Anglican)

8) Celebrate CHristmas?

Every year, Yule and Christmas are celebrated in my home. the birth of Jesus, a great and innately good teacher is still important in my family.

9) Go to a Bris?

see question #2

10) Accept a bible from a Baptist handing them out on a corner?

Well, no, because I have one of my own...white leather casing with my name inscribed in gold...it was given to me for my first communion. :)

I believe I am a very tolerant person...the only thing that I feel makes me intolerant are people who take their faith and use it to harm others, and to control the thoughts of others.

Blessed be!

Rae )0(

Amora
May 30th, 2001, 01:14 PM
1) Could but wouldn't

2) Nope, no one would even want to hear me sing.

3) Yes, and I am a Godparent.

4) No....I could be respectful but I feel they need to respect my right not to participate in their prayers.

5) I talk to traveling evangelists but I'm not the most welcoming!!!

6) I cover myself for no religion...I consider it demeaning to women.

7) My daughter does have an advent calendar.

8) I do celebrate Christmas (and Yule).

9) What is Bris??? Sorry....

10) No thanks to the Bible...I feel it's located in the fiction section of Barnes and Noble....