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SagaDraco
March 5th, 2003, 10:31 AM
(no wonder this has not been broken in American news, it would show N.K. as the real threat, not Iraq)

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm

The warhead of a long-range missile test-fired by North Korea was found in the U.S. state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed yesterday.

"According to a U.S. document, the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska,’’ former Japanese foreign minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report. ``Washington, as well as Tokyo, has so far underrated Pyongyang’s missile capabilities.’’

Illuminatus
March 5th, 2003, 12:21 PM
Oh no! Not Alaska!

What's a warhead there going to do, except exterminate some of the world's most lovely wildlife and pristine landscapes.

Let me know when they can get San Fransisco or Hawaii, then I'll start freaking out.

SagaDraco
March 5th, 2003, 12:38 PM
How many Iraqi warheads have been found on U.S. soil? I am aware of none. Also, San Fran?! You would seriously consider that a loss?

Phoenix Blue
March 5th, 2003, 01:23 PM
Heh. . . how much further is Hawaii than Alaska?

This doesn't mention, though, which part of the missile was found in Alaska. Was it the warhead? If not, does it particularly matter?

Still, I agree, and have for some time. North Korea is by far the more volatile nation. Iraq is contained and has behaved itself the last twelve years, relatively speaking. . . North Korea can't say that.

Derry
March 5th, 2003, 01:46 PM
If anyone has been watching the news lately you will see that N korea has also been sending out several of their fighter jets and have literally been buzzing our reconnaisance aircraft. That's how our last aircraft crashed in china. My hubby is in the military and we both have been observing that N Korea is possibly more of a threat right now than Iraq. I guess this is just a reminder that maybe we should lite a candle for world peace sometime when we have a chance. Don't mean to sound like a tree hugging hippy (although I probably am), but the Lord and Lady do hear our prayers.

Kahlan
March 5th, 2003, 02:10 PM
Why in the world would anyone want to start a world war, or anything of the type. I mean so many countries have nuclear bombs and happy trigger fingers it would be stupied.
:eek:


Derry I think your right, maybe just maybe Lord and Lady willing we will get out of this with a world still inone peice.

Psyche Ague
March 5th, 2003, 02:39 PM
It's not fair for you to say that Alaska would be no big loss. My best friend lives there. Sure, there's absolutely nothing up there and the population of our biggest state is miniscule, and-and...what was my point again? ;)

Seriously, though, of COURSE North Korea is the bigger threat. I guess that's been said by everyone else who has posted here, but for gods' sakes why doesn't anyone in the government see that???!!!

...and leave San Fran out of this. :nyah:

flar7
March 5th, 2003, 03:24 PM
we also got a pipeline and some military stuff in Alaska
Recon electric thingamagigies. (yes, I modified the word)

Sequoia
March 5th, 2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by SagaDraco

How many Iraqi warheads have been found on U.S. soil? I am aware of none. Also, San Fran?! You would seriously consider that a loss?

Hey, buddy, I live 50 miles north of San Fransisco. A warhead goes off there, I'm gonna be seriously freaked, if not rather toasty/glowing.

Valnorran
March 5th, 2003, 09:45 PM
There are other countries willing to deal with N Korea, such as Japan. We're the only ones willing to deal with Iraq, despite their total disregard for the U.N.

Last night the History channel ran a documentary about Khadhir Hamza, the man who was in charge of Iraq's nuclear weapons development. He and his family are now in the United States, but he was still in Iraq during Desert Storm. He said that Iraq was within months of having a nuclear weapon when that war broke out. He also said Desert Storm inconvenienced their nuclear program. It did not stop it. He was quite confident the inspectors will never find any evidence of the program, too.

Japan has more nukes than Korea and, being much more in the line of fire than we are, they are quite willing to use them. I don't think Japan has the hang-ups about world opinion that most Western nations do. If they have to nuke North Korea to protect themselves, they'll do it. They can keep North Korea in check long enough for us to deal with Iraq and keep them from becoming a nuclear threat.

Also, the White House has said that if diplomacy fails to deal with North Korea, we will use military force. Of course, then everyone will accuse him of being a war monger.

Amethyst Rose
March 7th, 2003, 08:07 PM
Yeah, umm....saying a warhead in Alaska wouldn't do any harm isn't very fair to us Canadians, who border Alaska....true, the Yukon doesn't have a really large population but the entire paternal side of my family lives up there, and I wouldn't want to see them exterminated....

Gently Gazing Eyes
March 7th, 2003, 10:56 PM
An announcement of this to the American public would surely cause a bit of pandemonium; the control of information made readily available is with its merit. I suspect that when/if we decide to shift our focus to North Korea, we will pull this up out of the files and bring it into light to rally support for the movement, and until such time it will be kept secret. :eyebrow:


:boing:

flar7
March 8th, 2003, 01:54 AM
hey, if that sucker got there on purpose, it is a worry.


*secret conspiracy voice* Lets hit the U.S. with a test missile to
see if we can.
*2nd conspirator* where do we do this where they wont know?
*1st conspirator* lets try alaska, maybe they wont know its us.


see? perfect conspiracy theory. Our fortune and their bad luck we know about it.



Seriously, the problem in N. Korea is truly a more important issue
than Saddam. We are planning or looking at the feasability of
withdrawing some or all of our troops from there. South Korea
is begging them to stay, and for us to re-open talks with the North.
The North is desparate, they are starving and have not much to lose
by nuking the south. That would be their true target, not Japan, and
only if we pull out troops. Look at the situation closely, it gets
creepier and creepier.

I agree, the North does have a horrible track record with human
rights violations and such, but they have nukes by now and probably
at least a medium range delivery system from the chinese. I dont feel
they will attack just anyone at random, but most likely the South
under the threat or tactical use of nukes. Thinking that if no U.S.
troops are there to be killed, we wont bother since we will be neck
deep in war with Iraq, and on our own there.

I think these things may happen, I also think the North is making
a crucial error in thinking this way. Their neighbors will act if something like
this were to happen.

Valnorran
March 8th, 2003, 08:54 AM
See, I don't think they'll nuke S. Korea. N. Korea desperately needs resources and S. Korea is the nearest source for them. I don't think the North will vaporize their best source for food and such. And while most of N. Korea is starving, Kim Il Jong isn't, and I don't think he'd risk losing what he's got. I think N. Korea is rattling its new sabre in an attempt to get recognition from the leading nations of the world, like a kid desperately trying to gain recognition from the "in" crowd. Bush is telling them that if they want to talk like reasonable, rational people, we'll talk, but if they want to try bullying us than sit down and shut up and quit wasting our time.

flar7
March 9th, 2003, 04:09 AM
thats why I said, threat of or use of tactical nukes.

thats the good thing about a tactical nuke, ya dont waste everything.