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grug
July 26th, 2011, 10:10 AM
Hi all. I have a pretty good memory and sometimes when doing a reading it feels like I am just rattling off a meaning from a book rather than what my intuition is telling me. About 50% of the time I feel what the cards are saying but the other 50% I can't get my intuition working and the stock standard descriptions just come to mind and I can't seem to get any more than that.

I am by no means an advanced reader and I've only recently started to feel a strong connection with the cards.

Does anyone have any advice for me?

Thanks, Grug

Adalai
July 26th, 2011, 11:16 AM
I can honestly say, I know exactly what you're talking about.
I'm new to tarot and through dedicated studying, I'm getting better. 50% of the time -- I'm like... "I totally get this.." and 50% of the time I'm looking at them going "I have no idea what this is." and I regurgitate the collection of meanings I've gathered from other places. I usually blame it on the fact that I can't relate the meaning to the art. That I don't see or agree with what others see in the picture.

Its gotten to the point I'm now DREAMING meanings of cards! Gah!
I'm very interested to see what seasoned tarot readers can say to make us feel better about it :P Maybe we're just newbs and it comes with time? :)

aynfean
July 26th, 2011, 04:04 PM
In my experience interpretation of the cards is a combination of both. Taking the "official" meanings of cards and combining them together using intuition to read them. It's why I never pull just one cards, imho it's meaningless by itself.

Grug: When you say you can't get the cards working I suppose it depends on how you view reading the tarot. Personally I think the tarot are a spirit and they don't always chose to share with us. If you're getting nothing perhaps they are declining to answer?

Adalai: Maybe look for a different deck? For the longest time I worked with a deck and it was a struggle. Then I happened across a deck that almost seemed to scream at me it was so clear.

grug
July 26th, 2011, 10:09 PM
Hi Aynfean. I think it also has a bit to do with my mood. If I have been using logic a lot, like at work or playing chess (poorly), that's when the standard meanings come. But if I'm in a non-logical mood, like reading or listening to music, the intuition comes through and the cards seem to 'talk' to me.

Ooh, it seems like I've just answered my own question lol

aynfean
July 26th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Hehe yup that was sort of where I was going with it. I'm not feeling especially eloquent today :P

Adalai
July 28th, 2011, 10:57 AM
Adalai: Maybe look for a different deck? For the longest time I worked with a deck and it was a struggle. Then I happened across a deck that almost seemed to scream at me it was so clear.

I believe you are right! I had been looking at a new deck because I was drawn to the art, and I decided to go ahead and buy it and dare I say -- I absolutely love it. I'm able to 'step into the card' more so now and really understand what's happening. I'm able to trust myself more with them as well! Thank you for the advice! You were spot on! :)

aynfean
July 28th, 2011, 10:58 AM
Glad I could help! Now I'm curious what deck you had and what deck you use now?

Adalai
July 28th, 2011, 02:11 PM
I was learning with the traditional Rider-Waite and I can appreciate it but I'm very shallow when it comes to certain things and the pictures just aren't very.. pretty. They're just blah.. like a cartoon almost to me. So I end up feeling very 2d from it? I guess.
I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but the one I had been looking at for awhile and decided to buy after your suggestion was the Wizards Tarot. The book has flaws and is elementary, but the artwork on the cards is very appealing to me, rich but not as STRIKING as the yellows and oranges in the Rider-Waite.. a little more muted and subtle? and I have a not-so-secret love for digital painting. Being the emotional Pisces that I am.. the moods were easier to read in this deck as well.

The goal one day is to paint my own. But meh! Till then I'll have to look at other people's pretty artwork :P

aynfean
July 28th, 2011, 05:17 PM
As another emotional Pisces I totally get it lol. I use the Mystic Dreamer deck myself. I'm drawn to it party cuz it's pretty and partly cuz the pictures actually speak to me. The book is often times less important than the cards. Once you begin to see the meanings in the cards then the book hardly matters at all, at least in my experience.

For example: If you think that card X means Y for logical reasons and you're doing a reading and the Fates wanted to tell you Y... then they'd give you card X.
If someone else thinks that card Z means Y and the Fates wanted to tell them Y, they'd give them card Z.

That's how I see it anyways. You're welcome to tell me I'm bonkers, you wouldn't be the first ;)

Adalai
July 28th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Ah ha! I've been keeping my eye on the Mystic Dreamer deck as well! How funny!

Your explanation about the cards working for the specific person reading them is very well put :) Thank you so much for all the help!

~*Sacred*~
July 28th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Practice makes perfect! :)

grug
July 28th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Practice makes perfect! :)

Yeah, for sure. I've been reading for close to a year now and when I look at where I am now compared to when I first started I know I've come a long way. But being a 'grass is greener' Gemini I tend to get impatient with myself at times lol.

~*Sacred*~
July 28th, 2011, 09:53 PM
Oh I know what you mean. I've been reading for...7 years and I still have questions (as one always should) and tend to doubt some of my readings.

aynfean
July 28th, 2011, 09:55 PM
Yup. I think I'll always tell people I'm "practising." I view it in the same category as witchcraft. It's a craft I'm constantly working on.

memnoch
July 30th, 2011, 02:20 AM
If I still did it I would do what everyone else does, cold reading...possibly with some hot reading mixed in.

grug
July 30th, 2011, 04:58 AM
If I still did it I would do what everyone else does, cold reading...possibly with some hot reading mixed in.

Could you please explain the terms 'hot reading' and 'cold reading'? I'm not farmiliar with them.

memnoch
July 30th, 2011, 05:18 AM
Could you please explain the terms 'hot reading' and 'cold reading'? I'm not farmiliar with them.

the short answer would be it is what John Edward does. A hot reading is when you already have a certain level of knowledge of the person and you use that to make your insight seem that much greater. Cold reading is when you use traits of a person, body language and guessing to figure out a person, focusing on the things you are right about and fast talking through the things you are wrong about. For example, let's say you are doing a reading for a friend and they just got out of a bad relationship and you know they need to get out and have fun to get over their issues. Instead of going off of knowledge of the card or intuition, when the devil comes up you suggest this could mean that it is suggesting that their life may be a little dull and they need to start enjoying all of the craziness life has to offer. That would be a hot reading. A cold reading would be if the death card comes up and you ask the person if they feel like something is coming to an end, or if someone they know is dying, or if they like a tv show that has recently been cancelled that was extremely popular...you are giving them the opportunity to give you more information so you can go from a cold reading to a warm reading. Maybe they don't know anyone or anything dying and they didn't like the tv show, it didn't matter because they did feel like things weren't going well in a relationship. You pretend you never mentioned death or the tv show and you start focusing more on the relationship. In short they are the two biggest tools anyone who claims psychic abilities, con artists, tarot readers, ect. have.

memnoch
July 30th, 2011, 05:23 AM
I didn't mention broad generalities. Such as with the death card just suggesting something of great importance is about to end. You don't know what, or that it is even true, but the person hearing this will apply it to something in their life...kind of how astrology works.

Kalroth
May 18th, 2012, 06:14 PM
I know just what you mean about which is more important. I was taught by a dear friend, who I have not spoken to in a long time and miss very much, to concentrate on the card itself and get the meaning from what stands out. For example, in a reading that ended up having something to do with money my attention was drawn to a pile of coins (of course the suit was coins too) on one card and a sword stood out on another card (swords suit). There was more to it than that, more things stood out that were not related to the suits of the cards but it was years ago and I don't recall all the details. The point was, she taught me how to see the important aspects of the reading without referencing the book to see what it said the card represented in that situation.