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MonSno_LeeDra
October 4th, 2011, 11:54 PM
As happens with me quite frequently, I find that some old lesson has been triggered from the depths of my mind by something I read on the web. Tonight that trigger just happens to be centered on love spells.

Buy nearly any pagan book today and there is almost without a doubt a section that talks of love spells. Not only talks of them but some pretending to actually teach the novice how to cast one and bring the love of their lives to them. If not bring it to them then how to save an existing relationship or reignite a love grown cold.

Yet of all the lessons that float around in the corridors of my mind none seem to trigger faster than that of the supposed love spell. No spell more mis-stated than that of attracting or bringing love to oneself.

In the movie Aladdin there is a scene where Genie tells Aladdin there are three provisions to his magic. The facet I wish to address is that "He cannot make someone love you!"

In my youth this little Old Italian Lady taught me that Love Spells are nothing but glamouries. Well glamouries and the foundations to be used for the most critically weaved curses and hexes. The easiest spell or intent to weave and the most dangerous to the caster in practice and application. Danger derived mostly from stupidity on the casters part and an assumption of what a love spell is or can do.

It was through her instruction that I came to understand that a love spell does nothing in regards to bringing love to the caster. In essence all it really does it cause a glamour to appear over the eyes of the person who the love spell is directed at. To cause them to see the caster in the reflection of their deepest sense of love and connection. But the critical facet always being it is not the caster that is seen in the eyes of the enchanted person but the reflection of their own sense of love and emotion. In essence those under the spell do not even see the real person beneath the glamour.

Yet there in also lies the curse / hex facet of the love spell. It will end, usually do to the enchanted person's view of love and emotion changing over time though the glamour remains stagnate and unchanging. The other facet is that even though beneath a glamour, the person will still sense and see fragments or cracks in the glamour that filter into the sub-conscious. Perhaps not right off, but with time the glamour will come crashing down upon the caster and before the one enchanted. Sort of the notion that an illusion cannot stand before the cold reality of the truth.

Many times with diasterious results happening to both the spell caster and the recipient of the spell. At times without and out violence resulting as the target of the glamour begins to fight and resist the spell. Frequently coming to associate and direct their anger towards the person who was the subject beneath the glamour. Anger frequently fueled because of the sense of deceit and manipulation they were submitted to. Even from the sense of being treated as less than human at best and exploited for some sense of amusement at worse.

Yet still the many books speak of casting the love spell to bring true love to them. Many sites still hold their BOS's with their included love spells for the novice to utilize and bring "Love" to them. Yet never speaking of the danger that such a foolish usage of magic can unleash.

Yet perhaps I once again am out of step with the world in my beliefs and the way I was trained to look at things.

~Runa~
October 5th, 2011, 05:38 AM
Thanks for posting this MonSno Leedra,

I've tampered with love spells in the past. Yes they worked and eventually the magic faded. Basically, those who want to make love spells do so because they want to possess another person and not because they're really going through genuine love emotions. That didn't mean I had no feelings for them, I was very young and just wanted to be near that guy as he seemed impossible. As it happened he did come to me but after a short while he lost interest. It was as if the "glamour" fell off. Now was it to do with the spells? Or was it life? Now I didn't really know much about him when I was performing magic, or enchantments. When we were briefly going out, I got to know he wasn't the person I hoped he would be.

IMHO some (not all) love spells don't work. I think it depends on the person doing it and if they really know the person who's the object of their affection. And what motivates the person who does this? I think these books are irresponsible for putting in love spells as there are innocent people involved.

Socinus
December 24th, 2011, 02:22 PM
I can understand the momentary temptation to want to use such tools, but I cant understand people wanting to use them over long periods of time.

I would think someone would sort of "snap out of it" and realize that they're essentially enslaving another human being and discontinue their use of such things.

Cloaked Raven
December 24th, 2011, 05:43 PM
MonSno, I fully agree with you. Love spells are nothing but trouble in my mind. I've seen people who were the object of a love spell "break" it and wound up hating the person who cast the original spell in the end... Or if someone cast the spell for someone else, it came back and bit the spell caster in the rear end, big time.

I do have books that have "love spells" into them, but I REFUSE to do them for anyone else because of the possible consequences for anyone involved or myself (yes I have been asked to perform love spells for other people!). I tell people that love spells are garbage, because they DO wear off after a while or backfire in a hurry.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people finding the *right* person for them, but by being themselves and staying OUT of the spell books!!

Cloaked Raven
January 6th, 2012, 11:52 AM
I've really been thinking about this... A lot... And I've also discussed it with friends in another one of my spiritual forums, privately.

Sometimes a love spell just will NOT work... Because the person who the spell was intended for is already in a HAPPY, COMMITTED relationship and sometimes that bond with another person is enough of a defense to make the spell "bounce" off of the intended person, which results in the caster getting bit on the butt, big time... Especially if the intended "victim" is a very sensitive witch and fires back with a "leave me alone" spell or worse, like an exorcism, to get the message back to the original caster that they are NOT receptive to being put under a love spell. Yeah, I've seen that happen too and said caster wound up learning a VERY powerful lesson in the end... Once the message they were getting from their intended victim set in that is!

Louisvillian
January 6th, 2012, 04:10 PM
The only kind of "love spell" I can see working, and being at all ethical, are ones designed to guide oneself to someone to love, rather than making someone love them.

rnaroundsue82
January 9th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Great topic. I actually had someone tell me that she had done a love spell (she was Non-Pagan/ Wiccan etc) when I was deployed. It "worked", however, the "spell" of course wore off, and SHE went a little "coco" and he of course got outta there. This is what happens when people who dont know what they are doing "mess" around with things they dont understand.

Twinkle
January 9th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Here's my take....a love spell is simply sending out your energy into the Universe to find The Guy....or maybe The Guy Right Now. When we go to Le Club - we wear our sexiest outfit, put on make up, make sure our hair is beautiful and we look teh hawt. Tell me we aren't sending that same energy out to find The Guy...or at the very least....The Guy Right Now.

There isn't anything unethical about it. It's simply getting back what we send out.

Does it work? Sure. Is what we want necessarily what we need? It takes a person who is truly honest with themselves to answer that question. And when it comes to love...we are all pretty delusional.

Godgifu
April 14th, 2012, 02:44 PM
In some traditions long term love spells are used. In old hoodoo practice, for example, women would have Nation Sacks for personal power and benefit, and that could include controlling your husband through magic. These things were worn until death.

Personally I don't object to using love magic, or any controlling magic, but do agree one should employ it carefully. I don't at all think "karma" or "backfiring" is a thing one needs to worry about, but using a love spell incautiously can easily lead to unhappiness for a few reasons.

Firstly, I don't find you can really "force" a person to do something with magic. It just doesn't happen -- if the person really has no inclination that way at all, it's just a waste of time and nothing will come of it.

Secondly, I don't object to using magic to compel love because most relationships are plenty f****d up even without magic. Read the book "The Mastery of Love" by Don Miguel Ruiz to get a good explanation of how most people's ideas of love and relationships are a mess. Combined with the first point, I can see no reason why using a love spell is worse than trying to non-magically win someone by dressing up and using the latest cosmetics advertised to drive the opposite sex wild.